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Remember in the late 80's when Disney's movies were bombing and Don Bluth's films were sucessful, and how everything went vice versa during the 90's? The same thing is going to happen with Pixar and Dreamworks. Pixar has been the lead for about 15 years now, and Dreamworks has been inferior to them for about the same amount of time. ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory 3'' is (in this troper's opinion) The strongest and most successful Pixar film, and when you're at the top, there's only one way you can go. Case in point, Pixar's last film is ''{{Cars}} 2'', a sequel to their least successful film, which has done even worse by the company's standards. Pixar is also making a ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'' sequel or spinoff, which is what took Newt's slot. In 2010, Dreamwork's films have been considerbly darker and more fleshed out, such as in ''HTTYD'' and to a lesser extent ''{{Shrek}} 4''. This might just signal a role reversal, and Pixar might just reach its low point, its apocalypse; Its Pixar-calypse if you will if ''Film/{{Brave}}'' doesn't measure up artistically in 2012. Dreamworks might just be on the road to genuinely good movies...

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Remember in the late 80's when Disney's movies were bombing and Don Bluth's films were sucessful, and how everything went vice versa during the 90's? The same thing is going to happen with Pixar and Dreamworks. Pixar has been the lead for about 15 years now, and Dreamworks has been inferior to them for about the same amount of time. ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory 3'' is (in this troper's opinion) The strongest and most successful Pixar film, and when you're at the top, there's only one way you can go. Case in point, Pixar's last film is ''{{Cars}} ''WesternAnimation/{{Cars}} 2'', a sequel to their least successful film, which has done even worse by the company's standards. Pixar is also making a ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'' sequel or spinoff, which is what took Newt's slot. In 2010, Dreamwork's films have been considerbly darker and more fleshed out, such as in ''HTTYD'' and to a lesser extent ''{{Shrek}} 4''. This might just signal a role reversal, and Pixar might just reach its low point, its apocalypse; Its Pixar-calypse if you will if ''Film/{{Brave}}'' doesn't measure up artistically in 2012. Dreamworks might just be on the road to genuinely good movies...
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[[WMG: DreamWorks Animation will [[GrowingTheBeard get better]] when it merges with its former parent.]]
DreamWorks Animation's streak of less-than-sound movies began when it was spun off in 2004, and Jeffrey Katzenberg [[ProtectionFromEditors was no longer under Steven Spielberg and David Geffen's supervision]]. When it merges back with the live-action studio, it will begin making good movies again.

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[[WMG: DreamWorks Creator/DreamWorks Animation will [[GrowingTheBeard get better]] when it merges with its former parent.]]
DreamWorks Creator/DreamWorks Animation's streak of less-than-sound movies began when it was spun off in 2004, and Jeffrey Katzenberg [[ProtectionFromEditors was no longer under Steven Spielberg and David Geffen's supervision]]. When it merges back with the live-action studio, it will begin making good movies again.
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Remember in the late 80's when Disney's movies were bombing and Don Bluth's films were sucessful, and how everything went vice versa during the 90's? The same thing is going to happen with Pixar and Dreamworks. Pixar has been the lead for about 15 years now, and Dreamworks has been inferior to them for about the same amount of time. ''ToyStory 3'' is (in this troper's opinion) The strongest and most successful Pixar film, and when you're at the top, there's only one way you can go. Case in point, Pixar's last film is ''{{Cars}} 2'', a sequel to their least successful film, which has done even worse by the company's standards. Pixar is also making a ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'' sequel or spinoff, which is what took Newt's slot. In 2010, Dreamwork's films have been considerbly darker and more fleshed out, such as in ''HTTYD'' and to a lesser extent ''{{Shrek}} 4''. This might just signal a role reversal, and Pixar might just reach its low point, its apocalypse; Its Pixar-calypse if you will if ''Film/{{Brave}}'' doesn't measure up artistically in 2012. Dreamworks might just be on the road to genuinely good movies...

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Remember in the late 80's when Disney's movies were bombing and Don Bluth's films were sucessful, and how everything went vice versa during the 90's? The same thing is going to happen with Pixar and Dreamworks. Pixar has been the lead for about 15 years now, and Dreamworks has been inferior to them for about the same amount of time. ''ToyStory ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory 3'' is (in this troper's opinion) The strongest and most successful Pixar film, and when you're at the top, there's only one way you can go. Case in point, Pixar's last film is ''{{Cars}} 2'', a sequel to their least successful film, which has done even worse by the company's standards. Pixar is also making a ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'' sequel or spinoff, which is what took Newt's slot. In 2010, Dreamwork's films have been considerbly darker and more fleshed out, such as in ''HTTYD'' and to a lesser extent ''{{Shrek}} 4''. This might just signal a role reversal, and Pixar might just reach its low point, its apocalypse; Its Pixar-calypse if you will if ''Film/{{Brave}}'' doesn't measure up artistically in 2012. Dreamworks might just be on the road to genuinely good movies...



They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized, but is no less an AmazonianBeauty in her own way.

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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized, but is no less an AmazonianBeauty in her own way.
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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized, but is no less an ActionGirl in her own way.

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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized, but is no less an ActionGirl AmazonianBeauty in her own way.
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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized, but is no less a HotAmazon in her own way.

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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized, but is no less a HotAmazon an ActionGirl in her own way.
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* Considering Cars 2 is Pixar's worst-rated movie, there might be some merit to this.

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* Considering Cars 2 is Pixar's worst-rated movie, there might be some merit to this. In addition, ''Film/{{Brave}}'' is proving to be a lesser effort to a degree in critics' eyes so it seems that Pixar will no longer get a free ride about their films anymore.
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Remember in the late 80's when Disney's movies were bombing and Don Bluth's films were sucessful, and how everything went vice versa during the 90's? The same thing is going to happen with Pixar and Dreamworks. Pixar has been the lead for about 15 years now, and Dreamworks has been inferior to them for about the same amount of time. ''ToyStory 3'' is (in this troper's opinion) The strongest and most successful Pixar film, and when you're at the top, there's only one way you can go. Case in point, Pixar's last film is ''{{Cars}} 2'', a sequel to their least successful film, which has done even worse by the company's standards. Pixar is also making a ''MonstersInc'' sequel or spinoff, which is what took Newt's slot. In 2010, Dreamwork's films have been considerbly darker and more fleshed out, such as in ''HTTYD'' and to a lesser extent ''{{Shrek}} 4''. This might just signal a role reversal, and Pixar might just reach its low point, its apocalypse; Its Pixar-calypse if you will if ''[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Brave Brave]]'' doesn't measure up artistically in 2012. Dreamworks might just be on the road to genuinely good movies...

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Remember in the late 80's when Disney's movies were bombing and Don Bluth's films were sucessful, and how everything went vice versa during the 90's? The same thing is going to happen with Pixar and Dreamworks. Pixar has been the lead for about 15 years now, and Dreamworks has been inferior to them for about the same amount of time. ''ToyStory 3'' is (in this troper's opinion) The strongest and most successful Pixar film, and when you're at the top, there's only one way you can go. Case in point, Pixar's last film is ''{{Cars}} 2'', a sequel to their least successful film, which has done even worse by the company's standards. Pixar is also making a ''MonstersInc'' ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'' sequel or spinoff, which is what took Newt's slot. In 2010, Dreamwork's films have been considerbly darker and more fleshed out, such as in ''HTTYD'' and to a lesser extent ''{{Shrek}} 4''. This might just signal a role reversal, and Pixar might just reach its low point, its apocalypse; Its Pixar-calypse if you will if ''[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Brave Brave]]'' ''Film/{{Brave}}'' doesn't measure up artistically in 2012. Dreamworks might just be on the road to genuinely good movies...
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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''Film/KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized, but is no less a HotAmazon in her own way.

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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''Film/KungFuPanda'' ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized, but is no less a HotAmazon in her own way.



* Dreamworks Animation ''have'' proven themselves lately with the ''Film/KungFuPanda'' [[Film/KungFuPanda2 franchise]] and ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon''. Despite this, some people still hold bias against Dreamworks Animation, ''especially'' when sequels are involved.

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* Dreamworks Animation ''have'' proven themselves lately with the ''Film/KungFuPanda'' [[Film/KungFuPanda2 ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda2 franchise]] and ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon''. Despite this, some people still hold bias against Dreamworks Animation, ''especially'' when sequels are involved.
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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized, but is no less a HotAmazon in her own way.

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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''KungFuPanda'' ''Film/KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized, but is no less a HotAmazon in her own way.



* Dreamworks Animation ''have'' proven themselves lately with the ''KungFuPanda'' [[KungFuPanda2 franchise]] and ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon''. Despite this, some people still hold bias against Dreamworks Animation, ''especially'' when sequels are involved.

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* Dreamworks Animation ''have'' proven themselves lately with the ''KungFuPanda'' [[KungFuPanda2 ''Film/KungFuPanda'' [[Film/KungFuPanda2 franchise]] and ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon''. Despite this, some people still hold bias against Dreamworks Animation, ''especially'' when sequels are involved.
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** To elaborate: Dark and Edgy (Prince of Egypt, Antz), "misfit" protagonists (Z, Moses, Wallace), attack mature themes (psychology of war, death), suprisingly complex characters; Megamind, HTTYD, Kung Fu Panda all have these said similarities.

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** To elaborate: Dark and Edgy (Prince of Egypt, Antz), "misfit" protagonists (Z, Moses, Wallace), attack mature themes (psychology of war, death), suprisingly surprisingly complex characters; Megamind, HTTYD, Kung Fu Panda all have these said similarities.
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** To elaborate: Dark and Edgy (Prince of Egypt, Antz), "misfit" protagonists (Z, Moses, Wallace), attack mature themes (psychology of war, death); Megamind, HTTYD, Kung Fu Panda all have these said similarities.

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** To elaborate: Dark and Edgy (Prince of Egypt, Antz), "misfit" protagonists (Z, Moses, Wallace), attack mature themes (psychology of war, death); death), suprisingly complex characters; Megamind, HTTYD, Kung Fu Panda all have these said similarities.
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** To elaborate: Dark and Edgy (Prince of Egypt, Antz), "misfit" protagonists (Z, Moses, Wallace), attack mature themes (psychology of war, death); Megamind, HTTYD, Kung Fu Panda all have these said similarities.
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** It actually seems to be returning to their old roots where they made The Prince of Egypt, Antz, and all those movies (Wallace & Gromit, Monsters Vs. Aliens) before their downfall of pop culture references and Sequelitis (Shark Tale, Madagascar (1 & 2), Over the Hedge, Bee Movie, Flushed Away (Your mileage will vary on them).

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** It actually seems to be returning to their old roots where they made in fact make DarkerAndEdgier works such as The Prince of Egypt, Antz, and all those movies (Wallace & Gromit, Monsters Vs. Aliens) before their downfall of pop culture references and Sequelitis (Shark Tale, Madagascar (1 & 2), Over the Hedge, Bee Movie, Flushed Away (Your mileage will vary on them).
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** It actually seems to be returning to their old roots where they made The Prince of Egypt, Antz, and all some movies before their downfall of pop culture references (Shark Tale).

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** It actually seems to be returning to their old roots where they made The Prince of Egypt, Antz, and all some those movies (Wallace & Gromit, Monsters Vs. Aliens) before their downfall of pop culture references and Sequelitis (Shark Tale).Tale, Madagascar (1 & 2), Over the Hedge, Bee Movie, Flushed Away (Your mileage will vary on them).
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* And don't forget the fact that one of Disney's own, Chris Sanders, left the company for Dreamworks due to creative differences much like Don Bluth. Is he the next Don Bluth?
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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized.

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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized.
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Remember in the late 80's when Disney's movies were bombing and Don Bluth's films were sucessful, and how everything went vice versa during the 90's? The same thing is going to happen with Pixar and Dreamworks. Pixar has been the lead for about 15 years now, and Dreamworks has been inferior to them for about the same amount of time. ''ToyStory 3'' is (in this troper's opinion) The strongest and most successful Pixar film, and when you're at the top, there's only one way you can go. Case in point, Pixar's last film is ''{{Cars}} 2'', a sequel to their least successful film, which has done even worse by the company's standards. Pixar is also making a ''MonstersInc'' sequel or spinoff, which is what took Newt's slot. In 2010, Dreamwork's films have been considerbly darker and more fleshed out, such as in ''HTTYD'' and to a lesser extent ''{{Shrek}} 4''. This might just signal a role reversal, and Pixar might just reach its low point, its apocalypse; Its Pixar-calypse if you will if ''{{Brave}}'' doesn't measure up artistically in 2012. Dreamworks might just be on the road to genuinely good movies...

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Remember in the late 80's when Disney's movies were bombing and Don Bluth's films were sucessful, and how everything went vice versa during the 90's? The same thing is going to happen with Pixar and Dreamworks. Pixar has been the lead for about 15 years now, and Dreamworks has been inferior to them for about the same amount of time. ''ToyStory 3'' is (in this troper's opinion) The strongest and most successful Pixar film, and when you're at the top, there's only one way you can go. Case in point, Pixar's last film is ''{{Cars}} 2'', a sequel to their least successful film, which has done even worse by the company's standards. Pixar is also making a ''MonstersInc'' sequel or spinoff, which is what took Newt's slot. In 2010, Dreamwork's films have been considerbly darker and more fleshed out, such as in ''HTTYD'' and to a lesser extent ''{{Shrek}} 4''. This might just signal a role reversal, and Pixar might just reach its low point, its apocalypse; Its Pixar-calypse if you will if ''{{Brave}}'' ''[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Brave Brave]]'' doesn't measure up artistically in 2012. Dreamworks might just be on the road to genuinely good movies...
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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are ''{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her[[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized.

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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female leads who are ''{{Chickification}} [[{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down her[[http://www.her [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized.
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Remember in the late 80's when Disney's movies were bombing and Don Bluth's films were sucessful, and how everything went vice versa during the 90's? The same thing is going to happen with Pixar and Dreamworks. Pixar has been the lead for about 15 years now, and Dreamworks has been inferior to them for about the same amount of time. ToyStory 3 is (in this troper's opinion) The strongest and most successful Pixar film, and when you're at the top, there's only one way you can go. Pixar's next film is Cars 2, which is a sequel to their least successful film, so it may not do as well. Pixar is also making a Monsters Inc. sequel or spinoff, which is what took Newt's slot. In 2010, Dreamwork's films have been considerbly darker and more fleshed out, such as in HTTYD and to a lesser extent Shrek 4. This might just signal a role reversal, and Pixar might just reach its low point, its apocalypse. Its Pixar-calypse if you will. Dreamworks might just be on the road to genuinely good movies...

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Remember in the late 80's when Disney's movies were bombing and Don Bluth's films were sucessful, and how everything went vice versa during the 90's? The same thing is going to happen with Pixar and Dreamworks. Pixar has been the lead for about 15 years now, and Dreamworks has been inferior to them for about the same amount of time. ToyStory 3 ''ToyStory 3'' is (in this troper's opinion) The strongest and most successful Pixar film, and when you're at the top, there's only one way you can go. Case in point, Pixar's next last film is Cars 2, which is ''{{Cars}} 2'', a sequel to their least successful film, so it may not do as well. which has done even worse by the company's standards. Pixar is also making a Monsters Inc. ''MonstersInc'' sequel or spinoff, which is what took Newt's slot. In 2010, Dreamwork's films have been considerbly darker and more fleshed out, such as in HTTYD ''HTTYD'' and to a lesser extent Shrek 4. ''{{Shrek}} 4''. This might just signal a role reversal, and Pixar might just reach its low point, its apocalypse. apocalypse; Its Pixar-calypse if you will.will if ''{{Brave}}'' doesn't measure up artistically in 2012. Dreamworks might just be on the road to genuinely good movies...



They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female lead for shooting down its [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, a tough and clever viking girl, the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized.

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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female lead for shooting leads who are ''{{Chickification}} chickified]] by no one. For instance, ''{{Megamind}}'' as a fearless reporter who immediately shoots down its [[http://www.her[[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' has a tough and clever viking girl, girl who bows to no one, ''MonstersVsAliens'' has the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and the ''KungFuPanda'' series has yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized.
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* Dreamworks Animation ''have'' proven themselves lately with ''KungFuPanda'' and ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' and ''Kung Fu Panda 2''. Despite this, some people still hold bias against Dreamworks Animation, ''especially'' when sequels are involved.

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* Dreamworks Animation ''have'' proven themselves lately with the ''KungFuPanda'' [[KungFuPanda2 franchise]] and ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' and ''Kung Fu Panda 2''.''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon''. Despite this, some people still hold bias against Dreamworks Animation, ''especially'' when sequels are involved.
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* Dreamworks Animation ''have'' proven themselves lately with ''KungFuPanda'' and ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon''. ''Kung Fu Panda 2'' is also shaping up to be great as well. Despite this, some people still hold bias against Dreamworks Animation, ''especially'' when sequels are involved.

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* Dreamworks Animation ''have'' proven themselves lately with ''KungFuPanda'' and ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon''. ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon'' and ''Kung Fu Panda 2'' is also shaping up to be great as well.2''. Despite this, some people still hold bias against Dreamworks Animation, ''especially'' when sequels are involved.

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* It is pretty likely. Their darker and more mature movies (which many of their recent films fit into) have recieved more critical acclaim than their past films.



* Dreamworks Animation ''have'' proven themselves lately with ''KungFuPanda'' and ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon''. ''Kung Fu Panda 2'' is also shaping up to be great as well. Despite this, some people still hold bias against Dreamworks Animation, ''especially'' when sequels are involved.

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* Dreamworks Animation ''have'' proven themselves lately with ''KungFuPanda'' and ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon''. ''Kung Fu Panda 2'' is also shaping up to be great as well. Despite this, some people still hold bias against Dreamworks Animation, ''especially'' when sequels are involved.involved.

[[WMG: Dreamworks Animation will finish establishing their identity very soon.]]
Think about it. Different studios tend to be known for different styles and story types. In it's earlier years, Dreamworks was kind of all over the place in those terms. A lot of their earlier films were basically taking elements of the most recent popular Disney film and throwing in some pop culture references. But in more recent years, particularly starting with Shrek, they've been moving away from that and started making movies with a common theme of having unconventional, "misfit" protagonist. Their past few films have had noticably darker themes and moments as well. This has obviously been working for them, since their most recent movies have not only recieved more critical acclaim, but get more money at the box office and leave better impressions of the audience. With their next few movies, Dreamworks Animation will seal the deal on their studio identity: DarkerAndEdgier movies with non-conventional protagonists, practically the opposite of Disney. This establishment will create more tone consistency in their films, which may contribute to improvement in quality.


DreamWorks Animation's streak of [[{{Understatement}} less-than-sound]] movies began when it was spun off in 2004, and Jeffrey Katzenberg [[ProtectionFromEditors was no longer under Steven Spielberg and David Geffen's supervision]]. When it merges back with the live-action studio, it will begin making good movies again.

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DreamWorks Animation's streak of [[{{Understatement}} less-than-sound]] less-than-sound movies began when it was spun off in 2004, and Jeffrey Katzenberg [[ProtectionFromEditors was no longer under Steven Spielberg and David Geffen's supervision]]. When it merges back with the live-action studio, it will begin making good movies again.
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* Considering Cars2 is Pixar's worst-rated movie, there might be some merit to this.

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* Considering Cars2 Cars 2 is Pixar's worst-rated movie, there might be some merit to this.
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* Considering Cars2 is Pixar's worst-rated movie, there might be some merit to this.
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DreamWorks Animation's streak of [[{{Understatement}} less-than-sound]] movies began when it was spun off in 2004, and Jeffrey Katzenberg [[ProtectionFromEditors was no longer under Steven Spielberg and David Geffen's supervision]]. When it merges back with the live-action studio, it will begin making good movies again.

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DreamWorks Animation's streak of [[{{Understatement}} less-than-sound]] movies began when it was spun off in 2004, and Jeffrey Katzenberg [[ProtectionFromEditors was no longer under Steven Spielberg and David Geffen's supervision]]. When it merges back with the live-action studio, it will begin making good movies again.again.
* Dreamworks Animation ''have'' proven themselves lately with ''KungFuPanda'' and ''Film/HowToTrainYourDragon''. ''Kung Fu Panda 2'' is also shaping up to be great as well. Despite this, some people still hold bias against Dreamworks Animation, ''especially'' when sequels are involved.
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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female lead for shooting down its [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, a tough and clever viking girl, the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized.

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They know people get annoyed with Pixar for never having a female lead and Disney for being all about its princesses, and are trying to capture that audience. In the last few movies that weren't sequels we've got a movie that's totally on the side of its female lead for shooting down its [[http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml Nice Guy]] and for getting legitimately upset at her love interest for lying to her, a tough and clever viking girl, the only superheroine origin movie we're likely to see on the big screen in a long time (even if it's disguised by calling her a "monster"), and yet another tough and smart fighter who also manages to be a catgirl who ''isn't'' sexualized.sexualized.

[[WMG: DreamWorks Animation will [[IGotBetter get]] [[GrowingTheBeard better]] when it merges with its former parent.]]
DreamWorks Animation's streak of [[{{Understatement}} less-than-sound]] movies began when it was spun off in 2004, and Jeffrey Katzenberg [[ProtectionFromEditors was no longer under Steven Spielberg and David Geffen's supervision]]. When it merges back with the live-action studio, it will begin making good movies again.

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Megamind is more like the usual dreamworks films.


Remember in the late 80's when Disney's movies were bombing and Don Bluth's films were sucessful, and how everything went vice versa during the 90's? The same thing is going to happen with Pixar and Dreamworks. Pixar has been the lead for about 15 years now, and Dreamworks has been inferior to them for about the same amount of time. ToyStory 3 is (in this troper's opinion) The strongest and most successful Pixar film, and when you're at the top, there's only one way you can go. Pixar's next film is Cars 2, which is a sequel to their least successful film, so it may not do as well. Pixar is also making a Monsters Inc. sequel, which is what took Newt's slot. In 2010, Dreamwork's films have been considerbly darker and more fleshed out, such as in HTTYD, Shrek 4, and (hopefully) Megamind. This might just signal a role reversal, and Pixar might just reach its low point, its apocalypse. Its Pixar-calypse if you will. Dreamworks might just be on the road to genuinely good movies...

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Remember in the late 80's when Disney's movies were bombing and Don Bluth's films were sucessful, and how everything went vice versa during the 90's? The same thing is going to happen with Pixar and Dreamworks. Pixar has been the lead for about 15 years now, and Dreamworks has been inferior to them for about the same amount of time. ToyStory 3 is (in this troper's opinion) The strongest and most successful Pixar film, and when you're at the top, there's only one way you can go. Pixar's next film is Cars 2, which is a sequel to their least successful film, so it may not do as well. Pixar is also making a Monsters Inc. sequel, sequel or spinoff, which is what took Newt's slot. In 2010, Dreamwork's films have been considerbly darker and more fleshed out, such as in HTTYD, HTTYD and to a lesser extent Shrek 4, and (hopefully) Megamind.4. This might just signal a role reversal, and Pixar might just reach its low point, its apocalypse. Its Pixar-calypse if you will. Dreamworks might just be on the road to genuinely good movies...

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