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30th Jul '16 9:39:03 PM KrisSimsters
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* [[spoiler: Jossed.]]
20th Jun '16 8:18:53 AM yellowukulele
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!![[color:red:Unmarked spoilers of both ''TLJ'' and ''Dreamfall'' ahead!]]

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20th Jun '16 8:18:17 AM yellowukulele
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* [[spoiler:partially Jossed by Book five of Chapters: The Undreaming is actually part of the Balance, the counterpoint to Dreaming. It was being controlled and abused by the Prophet to try and destroy magic. So (that's the partial Confirmation) it *is* a force of nature, but not a anti-Balance one.]]



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* [[spoiler: Confirmed]].Jossed, but very close, in chapter 5 of Chapters. He took control of the Undreaming, not the other way around.]].




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* [[spoiler: Jossed, again close, he overpowered it but then forced it to stay inside his body to abuse its powers.]].




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* [[spoiler: Confirmed in Chapters.]]




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* [[spoiler: Confirmed in chapter 5 of Chapters.]].



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* [[spoiler: Jossed]].
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* [[spoiler: Partially Jossed. Chapters has nothing to say about the Blue but it is shown and told that the Prophet perished before Unification and was working against it, since he wanted to destroy magic and the point of Unification was to reunite magic and technology.]]



* [[spoiler: Jossed.]]



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* [[spoiler: Confirmed. He got better]].

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* [[spoiler: Confirmed. He got better]].
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* [[spoiler: Jossed.]]




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** THANKFULLY Jossed

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** THANKFULLY Jossed[[spoiler:THANKFULLY Jossed.]]
19th Jun '16 12:04:24 AM Nicoaln
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* [[spoiler: Confirmed.]]




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* [[spoiler: Jossed]].




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* [[spoiler: Confirmed]].




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* [[spoiler: Confirmed. He got better]].


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** THANKFULLY Jossed
17th Jun '16 5:40:20 PM Nicoaln
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* [[spoiler: Confirmed]].
29th Dec '15 8:52:30 AM vashfanatic
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* Supported somewhat in ''Chapters''; when Kian sees a banner of the White in [[spoiler: the rebel base]], he comments that she reminds him of the Goddess, and speculates she is a reflection or aspect of her. The reverse seems more likely true.
28th Dec '15 3:26:26 AM Koveras
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** She does in ''DFC'' Book Four, if [[spoiler:Kian didn't rat her out--she saves Enu's life after the Azadi raid]].




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* In ''DFC'' Book Four, Abnaxus confirms that there ''was'' some kind of mystical bond between Crow and April, but it has since been apparently transferred to the White Kin, which may be why the latter had to help April open that Shift to the Guardian's Realm. [[spoiler:Saga seems to be able to Shift at will without Crow's assistance, however.]]



** It's been pointed out on the [[WMG/TheLongestJourney WMG page for The Longest Journey]] as well. Guardian Adrian spent 200 years of overtime as the Guardian. Gordon cannot be 200 years old at the time he ascends to the Guardiancy, so during those 200 years it's possible that other Guardian Candidates were born and either killed or prevented from getting to the Guardian's realm to take over. It's not clear what makes April be rejected as Guardian and Gordon be accepted, though, but age could be a part of it.

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** * It's been pointed out on the [[WMG/TheLongestJourney WMG page for The Longest Journey]] as well. Guardian Adrian spent 200 years of overtime as the Guardian. Gordon cannot be 200 years old at the time he ascends to the Guardiancy, so during those 200 years it's possible that other Guardian Candidates were born and either killed or prevented from getting to the Guardian's realm to take over. It's not clear what makes April be rejected as Guardian and Gordon be accepted, though, but age could be a part of it.



** And again when it turns out that [[spoiler:she didn't really wake up in the prologue! She only wakes up for real (we assume) in the end of Book Four, after much journeying]].




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* Also, [[StraightGay he is not interested in women romantically]].




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* Very unlikely in light of Book Four revelations from Abnaxus: Crow is currently bonded with the White Kin, which explains his presence at the scene and makes him an unlikely suspect.




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* New data in Book Four actually reveals that Grubbers are an offshoot of the Oular, kind of like Alatien and Maerum, although their relation to the Bandas is not completely ruled out yet.
21st Sep '15 2:24:04 PM nombretomado
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Kinda like a personification of [[NorseMythology Ragnarok]], it is out to destroy the Balance and the Twin World. Judging by its name, it is the EvilCounterpart to the [[CreationMyth Dreaming]] in Myth/AboriginalAustralianMyths. This is further supported by prolific allusions to other parts of Aboriginal mythology (Alchera, Eingana, etc.).

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Kinda like a personification of [[NorseMythology [[Myth/NorseMythology Ragnarok]], it is out to destroy the Balance and the Twin World. Judging by its name, it is the EvilCounterpart to the [[CreationMyth Dreaming]] in Myth/AboriginalAustralianMyths. This is further supported by prolific allusions to other parts of Aboriginal mythology (Alchera, Eingana, etc.).
26th Mar '15 6:14:12 PM Moontear
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* [[spoiler: If the rebels haven't figured out he's a mole, though, it would be more suspicious for him ''not'' to show up at April's funeral than for him to put in an appearance.]] It doesn't make complete sense, though. If he ratted her out, how is it that Kian was never informed by anyone that his search for a male rebel leader the Azadi referred to as "the Scorpion" had changed to a female rebel leader who referred to herself as "Raven"? Kian was still an Apostle at that point, and was still trusted enough to complete his job of hunting down the Scorpion. You would think that Brynn most likely would have been questioned by Kian about it personally at some point, much like when Zoe gets questioned by Kian when she's arrested for being a witch. It's also possible that the Azadi would have just flat-out killed him after he gave up his information.
25th Mar '15 6:44:55 AM Koveras
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The impression I got from Tobias was that the Vanguard was taking any children strong in the Balance in hopes of trying to control them - because there is not just ''one'' person who can become the Guardian, but a multitude of different candidates. However, it operates purely on one basis: Age. Because Gordon was older than April, he was the one to be the next Guardian, and if someone older than April had been in the Guardian's Realm (but not Gordon himself) then they would have been the Guardian.Had Gordon not been there or if he had died, then April would have been the Guardian instead. The reason that Cortez told April that she was the final Guardian was because he thought that Gordon would either die or not make it to the Guardian's Realm.
** It's been pointed out on the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/TheLongestJourney WMG page for The Longest Journey]] as well. Guardian Adrian spent 200 years of overtime as the Guardian. Gordon cannot be 200 years old at the time he ascends to the Guardiancy, so during those 200 years it's possible that other Guardian Candidates were born and either killed or prevented from getting to the Guardian's realm to take over. It's not clear what makes April be rejected as Guardian and Gordon be accepted, though, but age could be a part of it.

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The impression I got from Tobias was that the Vanguard was taking any children strong in the Balance in hopes of trying to control them - because there is not just ''one'' person who can become the Guardian, but a multitude of different candidates. However, it operates purely on one basis: Age. Because Gordon was older than April, he was the one to be the next Guardian, and if someone older than April had been in the Guardian's Realm (but not Gordon himself) then they would have been the Guardian. Had Gordon not been there or if he had died, then April would have been the Guardian instead. The reason that Cortez told April that she was the final Guardian was because he thought that Gordon would either die or not make it to the Guardian's Realm.
** It's been pointed out on the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/TheLongestJourney [[WMG/TheLongestJourney WMG page for The Longest Journey]] as well. Guardian Adrian spent 200 years of overtime as the Guardian. Gordon cannot be 200 years old at the time he ascends to the Guardiancy, so during those 200 years it's possible that other Guardian Candidates were born and either killed or prevented from getting to the Guardian's realm to take over. It's not clear what makes April be rejected as Guardian and Gordon be accepted, though, but age could be a part of it.
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