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29th Dec '15 8:52:30 AM vashfanatic
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* Supported somewhat in ''Chapters''; when Kian sees a banner of the White in [[spoiler: the rebel base]], he comments that she reminds him of the Goddess, and speculates she is a reflection or aspect of her. The reverse seems more likely true.
28th Dec '15 3:26:26 AM Koveras
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** She does in ''DFC'' Book Four, if [[spoiler:Kian didn't rat her out--she saves Enu's life after the Azadi raid]].




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* In ''DFC'' Book Four, Abnaxus confirms that there ''was'' some kind of mystical bond between Crow and April, but it has since been apparently transferred to the White Kin, which may be why the latter had to help April open that Shift to the Guardian's Realm. [[spoiler:Saga seems to be able to Shift at will without Crow's assistance, however.]]



** It's been pointed out on the [[WMG/TheLongestJourney WMG page for The Longest Journey]] as well. Guardian Adrian spent 200 years of overtime as the Guardian. Gordon cannot be 200 years old at the time he ascends to the Guardiancy, so during those 200 years it's possible that other Guardian Candidates were born and either killed or prevented from getting to the Guardian's realm to take over. It's not clear what makes April be rejected as Guardian and Gordon be accepted, though, but age could be a part of it.

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** * It's been pointed out on the [[WMG/TheLongestJourney WMG page for The Longest Journey]] as well. Guardian Adrian spent 200 years of overtime as the Guardian. Gordon cannot be 200 years old at the time he ascends to the Guardiancy, so during those 200 years it's possible that other Guardian Candidates were born and either killed or prevented from getting to the Guardian's realm to take over. It's not clear what makes April be rejected as Guardian and Gordon be accepted, though, but age could be a part of it.



** And again when it turns out that [[spoiler:she didn't really wake up in the prologue! She only wakes up for real (we assume) in the end of Book Four, after much journeying]].




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* Also, [[StraightGay he is not interested in women romantically]].




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* Very unlikely in light of Book Four revelations from Abnaxus: Crow is currently bonded with the White Kin, which explains his presence at the scene and makes him an unlikely suspect.




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* New data in Book Four actually reveals that Grubbers are an offshoot of the Oular, kind of like Alatien and Maerum, although their relation to the Bandas is not completely ruled out yet.
21st Sep '15 2:24:04 PM nombretomado
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Kinda like a personification of [[NorseMythology Ragnarok]], it is out to destroy the Balance and the Twin World. Judging by its name, it is the EvilCounterpart to the [[CreationMyth Dreaming]] in Myth/AboriginalAustralianMyths. This is further supported by prolific allusions to other parts of Aboriginal mythology (Alchera, Eingana, etc.).

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Kinda like a personification of [[NorseMythology [[Myth/NorseMythology Ragnarok]], it is out to destroy the Balance and the Twin World. Judging by its name, it is the EvilCounterpart to the [[CreationMyth Dreaming]] in Myth/AboriginalAustralianMyths. This is further supported by prolific allusions to other parts of Aboriginal mythology (Alchera, Eingana, etc.).
26th Mar '15 6:14:12 PM Moontear
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* [[spoiler: If the rebels haven't figured out he's a mole, though, it would be more suspicious for him ''not'' to show up at April's funeral than for him to put in an appearance.]] It doesn't make complete sense, though. If he ratted her out, how is it that Kian was never informed by anyone that his search for a male rebel leader the Azadi referred to as "the Scorpion" had changed to a female rebel leader who referred to herself as "Raven"? Kian was still an Apostle at that point, and was still trusted enough to complete his job of hunting down the Scorpion. You would think that Brynn most likely would have been questioned by Kian about it personally at some point, much like when Zoe gets questioned by Kian when she's arrested for being a witch. It's also possible that the Azadi would have just flat-out killed him after he gave up his information.
25th Mar '15 6:44:55 AM Koveras
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The impression I got from Tobias was that the Vanguard was taking any children strong in the Balance in hopes of trying to control them - because there is not just ''one'' person who can become the Guardian, but a multitude of different candidates. However, it operates purely on one basis: Age. Because Gordon was older than April, he was the one to be the next Guardian, and if someone older than April had been in the Guardian's Realm (but not Gordon himself) then they would have been the Guardian.Had Gordon not been there or if he had died, then April would have been the Guardian instead. The reason that Cortez told April that she was the final Guardian was because he thought that Gordon would either die or not make it to the Guardian's Realm.
** It's been pointed out on the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/TheLongestJourney WMG page for The Longest Journey]] as well. Guardian Adrian spent 200 years of overtime as the Guardian. Gordon cannot be 200 years old at the time he ascends to the Guardiancy, so during those 200 years it's possible that other Guardian Candidates were born and either killed or prevented from getting to the Guardian's realm to take over. It's not clear what makes April be rejected as Guardian and Gordon be accepted, though, but age could be a part of it.

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The impression I got from Tobias was that the Vanguard was taking any children strong in the Balance in hopes of trying to control them - because there is not just ''one'' person who can become the Guardian, but a multitude of different candidates. However, it operates purely on one basis: Age. Because Gordon was older than April, he was the one to be the next Guardian, and if someone older than April had been in the Guardian's Realm (but not Gordon himself) then they would have been the Guardian. Had Gordon not been there or if he had died, then April would have been the Guardian instead. The reason that Cortez told April that she was the final Guardian was because he thought that Gordon would either die or not make it to the Guardian's Realm.
** It's been pointed out on the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/TheLongestJourney [[WMG/TheLongestJourney WMG page for The Longest Journey]] as well. Guardian Adrian spent 200 years of overtime as the Guardian. Gordon cannot be 200 years old at the time he ascends to the Guardiancy, so during those 200 years it's possible that other Guardian Candidates were born and either killed or prevented from getting to the Guardian's realm to take over. It's not clear what makes April be rejected as Guardian and Gordon be accepted, though, but age could be a part of it.
25th Mar '15 6:05:10 AM Moontear
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** It's been pointed out on the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/TheLongestJourney WMG page for The Longest Journey]] as well. Guardian Adrian spent 200 years of overtime as the Guardian. Gordon cannot be 200 years old at the time he ascends to the Guardiancy, so during those 200 years it's possible that other Guardian Candidates were born and either killed or prevented from getting to the Guardian's realm to take over. It's not clear what makes April be rejected as Guardian and Gordon be accepted, though, but age could be a part of it.
25th Mar '15 5:54:41 AM Moontear
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* Abnaxus says something in the first game (I think) about different threads of time. It could possibly be that the Dark People can also sense different threads in time, and that in one of them, April had ceased to be a Wave. So when April talked to the ship captain, the thread he was sensing was the one where April ceased having much of an influence on the world. The next Dark Person she talks to can sense the thread where April is still a Wave, so he acknowledges her as such. It seems that April might have stopped being a Wave if she had not met Kian and influenced him to take a good look at what the Azadi were doing in Marcuria, which is what caused him to have a change of heart at the end of ''Dreamfall'' and join the Rebels in ''Chapters''. After all, waves don't go on forever and eventually peter out on their own.
25th Mar '15 3:52:10 AM Moontear
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* Na'ane [[spoiler:will also have to find other ways to redeem herself, because April is dead.]]




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** Admittably, this was a fan favorite explanation [[spoiler:for why there was no sound of April landing in the water after she was stabbed. Looks like those fans were disappointed.]]




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* This is true, based on the Faith Model posted on the [[http://tlj.wikia.com/wiki/Dreamfall game's Wiki]]. All the major characters seem to go through stages in the model.
22nd Oct '14 9:51:14 AM SpaghettiBoy
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* In the beginning of Dreamfall Chapters, Zoë says that's someone wearing his skin... This troper wanted to yell "NO! That's not Reza! I think it's Peats!"
22nd Oct '14 12:32:17 AM Koveras
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* Seems to have been jossed. [[spoiler:April was, indeed, physically in Arcadia--and was buried there.]]




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* Jossed. [[spoiler:She died.]]




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* [[spoiler:Confirmed.]]




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* [[spoiler:This is exactly what happened.]]



* Kinda. She apparently rescues herself.

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* Kinda. She apparently rescues herself.Waking herself up is the first major puzzle she solves in the game.




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* In ''Dreamfall Chapters'', similar machines, dubbed "mystery towers", appear scattered throughout Europolis, as well.




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* Probably jossed. [[spoiler:In his inner monologue in ''Chapters'', Kian reveals that his mother committed suicide by drowning when he was very young.]]




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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Kian didn't save April and she died.]]




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* Seems supported by [[spoiler:the White Kin appearing to baby Saga at the House of All Worlds in ''Chapters''. She claims Saga will only be able to see her while she is still a child (is this why the White Lady appeared to Faith, rather than any adult character in ''Dreamfall''?) and the only distinguishing features about her apparition are a lot of white light and a feminine figure and voice]].




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* Jossed. [[spoiler:Judging by how he was killed by the conspirators and made to take the fall for them, he was a genuine thing from the start.]]



Wati security was hot on his trail, but he thought if he ran out and sacrificed himself, that would get them off of Zoë.

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Wati security was hot on his trail, but he thought if he ran out and sacrificed himself, that would get them off of Zoë.
Zoë.
* [[spoiler:Confirmed.]]




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* Definitely not a joke, as Kian has to learn in ''Chapters''--Vamon manages to shoot him twice before he escapes.




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* Seems to have been jossed: [[spoiler:Brynn appears alongside Chawan and other rebels at April's funeral in ''Chapters'']].
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