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The thing I noticed was that they rule over the same realms that the seals where in leading me to make this guess. I can only speculate where Zero and One fit into all of this.

* We already know she's out to kill her sisters, and even [[BloodKnight Caim]] never stooped to siblicide. [[spoiler:And before you bring up Ending C of Drakengard 1, Furiae killed herself upon being rejected ([[IncestIsRelative sexually]]) by Caim. Caim had no way of knowing that this would [[DrivenToSuicide break her]]. If anything, it's Manah's fault for being enough of a {{troll}} to bring force the issue upon Caim's attention.]]

Drakengard 2 reveals that the powers of five goddesses were sealed inside the InfinityPlusOne weapons of the main characters. Thus, the story of Drakengard 3 will be a prequel to the previous games, about how the Utahime Five were sealed away.

[[WMG: The third game takes place before the first Drakengard and the protagonists are connected to the Grotesquerie's]]

* It's been confirmed the Drakengard 3 takes place before the first game.

* Confimed, it will return now under the name Mass of Iron. Sounds like it's ShoutOut to the [[Manga/{{Berserk}} Dragonslayer]] is even more obvious now than before since it's often called just a huge "lump of iron"

[[WMG: The Red Eye Plague is connected to the Watchers mind-control.]]
One thing that was mentioned was the the Red Eye Plague causes the victim to no longer feel any pain and become almost inhuman, something that was mentioned about the imperial troops in the first game.

He's a kid, it's par the course for the series.

[[WMG: The TokyoTower have some sort of connection to the Drakengard verse.]]
This may be just grabbing things out of thin air but I can't think of any other reason as to why they would draw the TokyoTower in the background of the official art seen on the main page other than that it holds some sort of important meaning beyond the first game's ending.

[[WMG: Zero will make Caim look like a calm, rational person in comparison]]

This may be just grabbing things out of thin air but I can't think of any other reason as to why they would draw the TokyoTower in the background of the official art seen on the main page other than that it holds some sort of important meaning beyond the first game's ending.

[[WMG: The black dragon in the manga is Legna.]]

He's a kid, it's par the course for the series.

One thing that was mentioned was the the Red Eye Plague causes the victim to no longer feel any pain and become almost inhuman, something that was mentioned about the imperial troops in the first game.

But, Zero will use it like a lance, since those are used for heavy attacks and guard breaking, whereas swords are used for speed and combos.

The main reason I believe this is cause of both the sexual themes in the third game as well as the protagonists using MagicMusic. Remember that in the final battle with the queen, Angelus says that it starts to sing.

Drakengard 2 reveals that the powers of five goddesses were sealed inside the InfinityPlusOne weapons of the main characters. Thus, the story of Drakengard 3 will be a prequel to the previous games, about how the Utahime Five were sealed away.

In the same way that Drakengard 2 and Nier split at A and E, this game will follow D. After [[spoiler: Seere seals the Queen Beast]] the two of them come to a gradual understanding. Either naturally, or after some help from the Bone Casket. Either way, [[spoiler: The Queen Beast]] becomes Zero, carrying over her harmonic magic. The flower, aside from possibly being pact related, could also represent this, given that the gods are best known for the Seeds of Resurrection, but that's probably just coincidence. Likewise, Zero's color scheme is based entirely around white/gray, which speaks for itself. One, on the other hand, looks too similar to Manah to be mere coincidence. She is either A) [[spoiler: Seere's "daughter" akin to how Nowe is Inuart's "son"]] or B) [[spoiler: Seere himself]] subconsciously masked as the person dearest to him.

* My guess is that it perhaps is going to show how the seals where placed in the first place.

[[spoiler: The cost of this new system, however, is that the strain of being the first cog of the Goddess Seal (the 'Zero') kills any human girl who volunteers. Then somebody remembers Manah and Nowe: a powerful witch and a dragon/human hybrid...and all the descendants that share their unique bloodline. The Empire captures Zero and One (not their real names, just their designation as part of the Goddess Seal system: Two and Three will be brought into the game as boss fights/allies) when they're young, kills their parents and hides them away, training them until they're old enough to become goddesses themselves. The plot will center around Zero (the Caim/Kaine expy whose special attacks happen when she sings. Maybe a callback to her ancestor Inuart) and her trying to rescue her little sister (who bears more than a passing resemblance to her great-great-great grandmother Manah...) with the help of that last Holy Dragon seen in the above mentioned GoldenEnding, and also try to find out why the seal system was brought back.]] Also, the game is going to go back to its original batshit, violent and depressing roots, based on the stills released and the fact that the original Drakengard and NieR team have been brought in on this project. There's also the fact that [[spoiler: Caim's pact symbol is hidden inside the 'O' of the new game's logo.]]

* The game takes place a few centuries after the events of Drakengard 2's GoldenEnding. [[spoiler: Thanks to the stinger of that ending showing one last dragon, it turns out that the dragons and gods aren't as dead as everyone thought they were. After a series of calamitous events that nearly culminate in the end of the world, the Powers That Be (the current Empire, founded by Hierarch Seere when he and his army of Golems filled in the power vacuum left by the Knights of the Seal) decide to resurrect the Seals again. There is a small change: rather than concentrating the power of the last seal on just one maiden, it's decided that the last seal should be distributed amongst four young girls so they can share the burden of the seal. Not only that, but the goddesses are trained to defend themselves in case the other seals fall.]]

[[spoiler: The cost of this new system, however, is that the strain of being the first cog of the Goddess Seal (the 'Zero') kills any human girl who volunteers. Then somebody remembers Manah and Nowe: a powerful witch and a dragon/human hybrid...and all the descendants that share their unique bloodline. The Empire captures Zero and One (not their real names, just their designation as part of the Goddess Seal system: Two and Three will be brought into the game as boss fights/allies) when they're young, kills their parents and hides them away, training them until they're old enough to become goddesses themselves. The plot will center around Zero (the Caim/Kaine expy) and her trying to rescue her little sister (who bears more than a passing resemblance to her great-great-great grandmother Manah...) with the help of that last Holy Dragon seen in the above mentioned GoldenEnding, and also try to find out why the seal system was brought back.]] Also, the game is going to go back to its original batshit, violent roots, based on the stills released and the fact that Taro Yoko is on the team. There's also the fact that [[spoiler: Caim's pact symbol is hidden inside the 'O' of the new game's logo.]]

* The game takes place a few centuries after the events of Drakengard 2's GoldenEnding. [[spoiler: Thanks to the stinger of that ending showing one last dragon, it turns out that the dragons and gods aren't as dead as everyone thought they were. After a series of calamitous events that nearly culminate in the end of the world, the Powers That Be (the current Empire, founded by Hierarch Seere when he and his army of Golems filled in the power vacuum left by the Knights of the Seal) decide to resurrect the Seals again. There is a small change: rather than concentrating the power of the last seal on just one maiden, it's decided that the last seal should be distributed amongst four young girls so they can share the burden of the seal. Not only that, but the goddesses are trained to defend themselves in case the other seals fall. The cost of this new system, however, is that the strain of being the first cog of the Goddess Seal kills any human girl who volunteers. Then somebody remembers Manah and Nowe: a powerful witch and a dragon/human hybrid...and all the descendants that share their unique bloodline. The Empire captures Zero and One (not their real names, just their designation as part of the Goddess Seal system: Two and Three will be brought into the game as boss fights/allies) when they're young, kills their parents and hides them away, training them until they're old enough to become goddesses themselves. The plot will center around Zero (the Caim/Kaine expy) and her trying to rescue her little sister (who bears more than a passing resemblance to her great-great-great grandmother Manah...) with the help of that last Holy Dragon seen in the above mentioned GoldenEnding, and also try to find out why the seal system was brought back.]] Also, the game is going to go back to its original batshit, violent roots, based on the stills released and the fact that Taro Yoko is on the team.

* The game takes place a few centuries after the events of Drakengard 2's GoldenEnding. [[spoiler: Thanks to the stinger of that ending showing one last dragon, it turns out that the dragons and gods aren't as dead as everyone thought they were. After a series of calamitous events that nearly culminate in the end of the world, the Powers That Be (the current Empire, founded by Hierarch Seere when he and his army of Golems filled in the power vacuum left by the Knights of the Seal) decide to resurrect the Seals again. There is a small change: rather than concentrating the power of the last seal on just one maiden, it's decided that the last seal should be distributed amongst four young girls so they can share the burden of the seal. Not only that, but the goddesses are trained to defend themselves in case the other seals fall. The cost of this new system, however, is that the strain of being the first cog of the Goddess Seal kills any human girl who volunteers. Then somebody remembers Manah and Nowe: a powerful witch and a dragon/human hybrid...and all the descendants that share their unique bloodline. The Empire captures Zero and One (not their real names, just their designation as part of the Goddess Seal system: Two and Three will be brought into the game as boss fights/allies) when they're young, kills their parents and hides them away, training them until they're old enough to become goddesses themselves. The plot will center around Zero (the Caim/Kaine expy) and her trying to rescue her little sister (Seere/Furiae expy) with the help of that last Holy Dragon seen in the above mentioned GoldenEnding, and also try to find out why the seal system was brought back.]]

** He's the one who proposes the idea of a pact to Angelus in the first place.

[[WMG:Furiae is an ancestor of HaruhiSuzumiya.]]

* This is impossible. We clearly hear Caim speak before the pact in mission 1. "Empire scum, I will feed you to the ravens," etc... and clearly hear him speaking [[spoiler:after the pact is broken and he fights Angelus]] in one of the endings. It would be my guess that he is just too preoccupied with killing everything to be bothered by what his army is doing, not to mention the fatal back wound.

* This is impossible. We clearly hear Caim speak before the pact in mission 1. "Empire scum, I will feed you to the ravens," etc... and clearly hear him speaking [[spoiler:after the pact is broken and he fights Angelus]] in one of the endings.

That would explain that prior to the pact, he doesn't give out directions to his soldiers.

[[WMG:Furiae has the powers of HaruhiSuzumiya.]]