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**** Another reason may be that Videl is actually Fasha reborn as a human with no memories of her past life... After all, you do have Kid Buu reincarnate as Uub at the end of Dragonball Z, who's to say that it hasn't happened before (it also seems to be the natural process for those who were not totally evil)? The main difference between the two cases is that Goku made the request for Uub to retain some of his past life's fighting skill and potential <i>(at least I think that's the case)</i>, while Fasha's memories were wiped completely before she was reborn as Videl. But, on some sort of subconcious level, she remembered certain details... That's why Videl was able to learn how to use her Ki to fly so fast!
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He collected the dragon balls 700 years ago and wished to become immortal, then spent some time collecting them so he could become a magic-powered inventor. When someone tried to wish away his power 101 or 100 years ago (but could only turn him into a harmless old fool thanks to the various power limits of the wish-granting system), he stole one of the dragon balls to keep anyone from ever being able to collect them all and properly word a wish to defeat him once and for all (possibly also as a way to tell if there was a changeover between Kamis, to renew his immortality). When he lost his immortality thanks to the power switch and the drgon balls being remade, he either realized His Time Had Come and should live the rest of his life as a mortal human, or got distracted by the hot wife, the loads of cash, and the capsule full of porno mags.
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He collected the dragon balls 700 years ago and wished to become immortal, then spent some time collecting them so he could become a magic-powered inventor. When someone tried to wish away his power 101 or 100 years ago (but could only turn him into a harmless old fool thanks to the various power limits of the wish-granting system), he stole one of the dragon balls to keep anyone from ever being able to collect them all and properly word a wish to defeat him once and for all (possibly also as a way to tell if there was a changeover between Kamis, to renew his immortality). When he lost his immortality thanks to the power switch and the drgon dragon balls being remade, he either realized His Time Had Come and should live the rest of his life as a mortal human, or got distracted by the hot wife, the loads of cash, and the capsule full of porno mags.
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**** Another reason may be that Videl is actually Fasha reborn as a human with no memories of her past life... After all, you do have Kid Buu reincarnate as Uub at the end of Dragonball Z, who's to say that it hasn't happened before (it also seems to be the natural process for those who were not totally evil)? The main difference between the two cases is that Goku made the request for Uub to retain some of his past life's fighting skill and potential <i>(at least I think that's the case)</i>, while Fasha's memories were wiped completely before she was reborn as Videl. But, on some sort of subconcious level, she remembered certain details... That's why Videl was able to learn how to use her Ki to fly so fast!
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[[WMG: Saiyan Power is derived purely from HAIR]]
While I've noticed a lot of hair based comments on this page, I felt this couldn't go explicitly unsaid - that a Saiyan is powered by hair length, style, and/or color, especially the higher levels of Super Saiyan. Think about it... At the start you have Goku with his huge, spiked afro, and he's the most powerful we've seen. Then you have Vegeta who has that wild mountain of spines, and the widow's peak so large that Everest goes flaccid in it's green tinged inadequacy. After that, the next Saiyan we've seen was Nappa, whose only hair was on his tail, and Goku defeated him handily. Raditz doesn't count, he was just an {{Anticlimax Boss}} and I'll explain why below. This theory only applies to full blooded Saiyans and not half or quater Saiyans like Gohan, Trunks, or Pan.
*Now, let us observe the various Saiyan transformations, starting with their full moon monster form. Self explanatory, an enormous ape, covered in hair that is BROWN. The Super Saiyan one even had the extra hair to form the Super Saiyan spiked hair of doom. After, we discuss the Super Saiyan transformation itself. In the first stage, the hair spikes all the way up and become gold (an important Saiyan color), Vegeta has this hair style naturally which can explain why he gives Goku, who had MORE hair in their first fight, so many problems. In the Super Saiyan 2 stage, hair gets longer and bigger. In Super Sayian 3, well...[[DepartmentofRedundancyDepartment they of course get much, much more hair]], and lose their eyebrows. Now, According to the theory so far, this mean Raditz, who was basically just a Super Saiyan 3 with black hair and eyebrows should have destroyed Goku. But that's just it, his hair was not blonde/gold, and he had EYEBROWS. Perhaps this acted as a sort of power inhibitor, which would also explain why Super Saiyan 3 gives the utterly stupid fashion statement of lacking eyebrows. All Raditz had to do was shave off his eyebrows! So close...
*Now, and lastly, I'll talk about Super Saiyan 4, the most powerful form we've seen yet. Or that I've seen yet anyway...The hair is definitely longer, but not quite as long as in the previous incarnation of the legendary Super Saiyan, however! They compensate by growing red FUR on everywhere but the major muscles, but [[TestosteronePoisoning hair can't grow on steel so that's okay]]. Not only this, they also grow back their tail, which only exists in this form, even if the Saiyan in question has had his tail pulled out instead of cut, removing it, supposedly, forever. I guess forever means [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands 'unless they need space for the extra hair.']]
While I've noticed a lot of hair based comments on this page, I felt this couldn't go explicitly unsaid - that a Saiyan is powered by hair length, style, and/or color, especially the higher levels of Super Saiyan. Think about it... At the start you have Goku with his huge, spiked afro, and he's the most powerful we've seen. Then you have Vegeta who has that wild mountain of spines, and the widow's peak so large that Everest goes flaccid in it's green tinged inadequacy. After that, the next Saiyan we've seen was Nappa, whose only hair was on his tail, and Goku defeated him handily. Raditz doesn't count, he was just an {{Anticlimax Boss}} and I'll explain why below. This theory only applies to full blooded Saiyans and not half or quater Saiyans like Gohan, Trunks, or Pan.
*Now, let us observe the various Saiyan transformations, starting with their full moon monster form. Self explanatory, an enormous ape, covered in hair that is BROWN. The Super Saiyan one even had the extra hair to form the Super Saiyan spiked hair of doom. After, we discuss the Super Saiyan transformation itself. In the first stage, the hair spikes all the way up and become gold (an important Saiyan color), Vegeta has this hair style naturally which can explain why he gives Goku, who had MORE hair in their first fight, so many problems. In the Super Saiyan 2 stage, hair gets longer and bigger. In Super Sayian 3, well...[[DepartmentofRedundancyDepartment they of course get much, much more hair]], and lose their eyebrows. Now, According to the theory so far, this mean Raditz, who was basically just a Super Saiyan 3 with black hair and eyebrows should have destroyed Goku. But that's just it, his hair was not blonde/gold, and he had EYEBROWS. Perhaps this acted as a sort of power inhibitor, which would also explain why Super Saiyan 3 gives the utterly stupid fashion statement of lacking eyebrows. All Raditz had to do was shave off his eyebrows! So close...
*Now, and lastly, I'll talk about Super Saiyan 4, the most powerful form we've seen yet. Or that I've seen yet anyway...The hair is definitely longer, but not quite as long as in the previous incarnation of the legendary Super Saiyan, however! They compensate by growing red FUR on everywhere but the major muscles, but [[TestosteronePoisoning hair can't grow on steel so that's okay]]. Not only this, they also grow back their tail, which only exists in this form, even if the Saiyan in question has had his tail pulled out instead of cut, removing it, supposedly, forever. I guess forever means [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands 'unless they need space for the extra hair.']]
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* Its particuly telling in "Yo, Son Goku And His Friends Return", pretty much everyone shows up but Tien and Chaotzu.
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They show up less and less as the series went on. While the other Z-fighters could accept Vegeta's presence, they could not.
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[[WMG: Tien never forgave Nappa and Vegeta for the deaths they caused.]]
They show up less and less as the series went on. While the other Z-fighters could accept Vegeta's presence, they could not.
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[[WMG: Tarble's wife is the same [[BizarreSexualDimorphism species]] as Abo and Cado]]
Why were they attacking that particular planet? It was their home planet, and maybe one or both of them had a thing for Tarble's wife.
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** First, GT's place in canon is, at best, debatable. Second, Goku had already become a Super Saiyan by that point, and had been using the form for decades. It's established that once a Saiyan makes the transformation, he can do it any nearly any time he or she wishes. And on that note, yes, female Saiyans ''could'', theoretically, make the transformation. Toriyama said that Pan would have had the ability if she had sufficient motivation, like her grandfather and father before her.
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** First, GT's place in canon is, at best, debatable. Second, Goku had already become a Super Saiyan by that point, and had been using the form for decades. It's established that once a Saiyan makes the transformation, he they can do it any nearly any time he or she wishes. And on that note, yes, female Saiyans ''could'', theoretically, make the transformation. Toriyama said that Pan would have had the ability if she had sufficient motivation, like her grandfather and father before her.
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** First, GT's place in canon is, at best, debatable. Second, Goku had already become a Super Saiyan by that point, and had been using the form for decades. It's established that once a Saiyan makes the transformation, he can do it any nearly any time he or she wishes. And on that note, yes, female Saiyans ''could'', theoretically, make the transformation. Toriyama said that Pan would have had the ability if she had sufficient motivation, like her grandfather and father before her.
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** In the ''Dragon Ball Bouken Special'' manga guide published by Shueisha in 1987. [[http://daizex.com/general/feature/ See here for more info]].
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* Where does it show Ranfan married to someone named Trunks?
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[[WMG: GT was something [[AllJustADream dreamed up]] by Pan]]
Its just an extended dream Pan had one night. Giru is a stuffed robot she's holding onto while sleeping.
Its just an extended dream Pan had one night. Giru is a stuffed robot she's holding onto while sleeping.
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Think about it! His attacks have English names in Japan, his Big Bang Attack causes Nuclear Explosions, he's the most arrogant person in the series. There's no doubt he's more [[YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries American]] than [[YuGiOh Bandit Keith]].
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Think about it! His attacks have English names in Japan, his Big Bang Attack causes Nuclear Explosions, he's the most arrogant person in the series. There's no doubt he's more [[YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries [[{{Yu-Gi-Oh The Abridged Series}} American]] than [[YuGiOh [[{{Yu-Gi-Oh}} Bandit Keith]].
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[[WMG: Future Trunks is Ranfan's husband.]]
It's not that far-fetched. After going back to his time and defeating the Androids, Trunks decided to go back further in the past, to a time when Goku is still a kid and the rest of the Saiyans haven't arrived on Earth yet. He ended up being romantically involved with Ranfan in the past and eventually married her. That's why Ranfan's husband is also named Trunks.
It's not that far-fetched. After going back to his time and defeating the Androids, Trunks decided to go back further in the past, to a time when Goku is still a kid and the rest of the Saiyans haven't arrived on Earth yet. He ended up being romantically involved with Ranfan in the past and eventually married her. That's why Ranfan's husband is also named Trunks.
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* Dragon Ball takes place in Earth in the future, 700 years from now. In the future, genetic experiments created talking animals and brought dinosaurs back to life.
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* Dragon Ball takes place in Earth in the future, 700 years from now.future. In the future, genetic experiments created talking animals and brought dinosaurs back to life.
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**That would imply mentioning GT actually meant anything
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*I don't think so. When Goku was turned back into a kid in GT, He got his tail back, and he was still able to go SSJ, SSJ3, AND SSJ4. Also the SSJ4 transformations have tails.
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[[WMG: Gohan's Mystic form draws from the combined power given by a SSJ 3 transformation...]]
And a hidden Ascended Human transformation. Think about it; Gohan's quick power growth and immense power as a Mystic had to come from somewhere. This hidden Ascended Human transformation is what gave Gohan his rapid power growth, in comparison to a normal Saiyan, and how he still holds the record for achieving SSJ 2 at the age of 11. We never got to see the result of this transformation, since Gohan's power was brought out by Old Kai, though we can assume, that it boasts as least 10 times the power of a SSJ 2, and twice the power of a SSJ 3, due to the unique cirmumstance (in a normal human, like Kuririn, the leap would be similar to a standard Super Saiyan Transformation). For naming sake, we'll call this theoretical, final Half-Saiyan/Half-Human form a Super Saiyan 4, and could look like a Super Saiyan 2 (or 3, depending on taste), coated in a metallic-like coat of pure ki (think Silver Surfer, or a solid energy being, most likely the former).
And a hidden Ascended Human transformation. Think about it; Gohan's quick power growth and immense power as a Mystic had to come from somewhere. This hidden Ascended Human transformation is what gave Gohan his rapid power growth, in comparison to a normal Saiyan, and how he still holds the record for achieving SSJ 2 at the age of 11. We never got to see the result of this transformation, since Gohan's power was brought out by Old Kai, though we can assume, that it boasts as least 10 times the power of a SSJ 2, and twice the power of a SSJ 3, due to the unique cirmumstance (in a normal human, like Kuririn, the leap would be similar to a standard Super Saiyan Transformation). For naming sake, we'll call this theoretical, final Half-Saiyan/Half-Human form a Super Saiyan 4, and could look like a Super Saiyan 2 (or 3, depending on taste), coated in a metallic-like coat of pure ki (think Silver Surfer, or a solid energy being, most likely the former).
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[[WMG: Broly's transformations are twice as powerful as a normal Saiyan's transformations]]
In Broly: The Second Coming, Broly took on both Goten and Trunks as Super Saiyans at the same time in his own Super Saiyan form, and in his Legendary Super Saiyan form, he over-powered Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 form, implying the difference in strength is at least double. As recently shown in Dragon Ball: Raging Blast, and Dragon Ball: Dragon Battlers, Brolly has been officially shown as a Legendary Super Saiyan 3. If we take the theory "Brolly has double the power of normal Saiyan transformation" this could be the only known Non-fused character that can battle Gohan in his Mystic state.
In Broly: The Second Coming, Broly took on both Goten and Trunks as Super Saiyans at the same time in his own Super Saiyan form, and in his Legendary Super Saiyan form, he over-powered Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 form, implying the difference in strength is at least double. As recently shown in Dragon Ball: Raging Blast, and Dragon Ball: Dragon Battlers, Brolly has been officially shown as a Legendary Super Saiyan 3. If we take the theory "Brolly has double the power of normal Saiyan transformation" this could be the only known Non-fused character that can battle Gohan in his Mystic state.
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[[WMG: Yamcha is a [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent werewolf]].]]
*He's ChaoticNeutral
*He's a [[LonersAreFreaks loner]]
*He has a scruffy, lupine look to him
*He spends his early years WalkingTheEarth
*He's drenched in AnimalStereotypes
*His ultimate attack is [[AnimalBattleAura the Wolf Fang Fist]].
*We never see him transform because OurWerewolvesAreDifferent.
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* I'm with you, this guy is a genius!
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*** In Budokai Tenkaichi 3, it says that Ginyu was originally the same race as Jeice and Sauzer.
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*It can safely be assumed that all Saiyan tech comes from Frieza's army, but the Nameks can create spacecrafts that can travel an entire galaxy in a month (although it is possible that they wished for these materials from porunga Porunga [kami/piccolo was from the dragon clan, after all])
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*Saiyans [[InvoluntaryShapeshifting transform]] into giant monkeys, while Nameks have the [[{{sizeshifter}} ability to grow]] [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever giant]].
*Saiyans [[InvoluntaryShapeshifting transform]] into giant monkeys, while Nameks have the [[{{sizeshifter}} ability to grow]] [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever giant]].
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*** That was the point of Cell torturing the crap out of his friends in front of him: he needed Gohan not just be furious, but to go on a roaring rampage of revenge.
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[[WMG: Vegeta's ancestor was the last super saiyan before Goku]]
One of the Vegeta's became the strongest saiyan warrior & unlocked the power of the super saiyan, & the other saiyans re-named their planet after him & made him their king.
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Seriously, if Kami made these things when he & Piccolo were one, then they must be more powerful in some positive way (blowing up the planet in a year if they don't get colloected & put back on said planet in a year doesn't count as positive).
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[[WMG: Saiyans & Nameks are polar opposites]]
It's actually really obvious when you think about it:
*Saiyans are barbaric, & Nameks are peaceful
*Saiyans are always hungry for power, & Nameks have a source of unbelievable power (dragonballs) at their fingertips, but only use them in case of an emergency
*Saiyans are super powerful humanoid aliens, & Nameks are stereotypical green telekinetic aliens.
*It can safely be assumed that all Saiyan tech comes from Frieza's army, but the Nameks can create spacecrafts that can travel an entire galaxy in a month (although it is possible that they wished for these materials from porunga [kami/piccolo was from the dragon clan, after all])
[[WMG: The black-star dragonballs can grant literally any wish, & more than once]]
It's actually really obvious when you think about it:
*Saiyans are barbaric, & Nameks are peaceful
*Saiyans are always hungry for power, & Nameks have a source of unbelievable power (dragonballs) at their fingertips, but only use them in case of an emergency
*Saiyans are super powerful humanoid aliens, & Nameks are stereotypical green telekinetic aliens.
*It can safely be assumed that all Saiyan tech comes from Frieza's army, but the Nameks can create spacecrafts that can travel an entire galaxy in a month (although it is possible that they wished for these materials from porunga [kami/piccolo was from the dragon clan, after all])
[[WMG: The black-star dragonballs can grant literally any wish, & more than once]]
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[[WMG: The "heart virus" Goku dies of in the alternate future is caused by the attack Devilman used on him when he was a child.]]
When Devilman used the devilmite beam on goku, he was a child, & his heart was pure. But, who's to say that the effects of the beam didn't wear off immediately afterwards? The devilmite beam might have been permanent, & Goku's purity didn't last forever. During his battle with Frieza, Goku became enraged (which caused him to become a super saiyan) after he found out that Frieza killed his best friend & his entire species. The devilmite then took effect, but the beams grew slowly, because Devilman wasn't manipulating them. Eventually (about a year after he went SSJ) the beams grew large enough for Goku to start feeling them. The beams then shredded Goku's heart, & he died before they could destroy anything else.
When Devilman used the devilmite beam on goku, he was a child, & his heart was pure. But, who's to say that the effects of the beam didn't wear off immediately afterwards? The devilmite beam might have been permanent, & Goku's purity didn't last forever. During his battle with Frieza, Goku became enraged (which caused him to become a super saiyan) after he found out that Frieza killed his best friend & his entire species. The devilmite then took effect, but the beams grew slowly, because Devilman wasn't manipulating them. Eventually (about a year after he went SSJ) the beams grew large enough for Goku to start feeling them. The beams then shredded Goku's heart, & he died before they could destroy anything else.
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** Alternatively, the purple guy who came from Hell in GT was ''actually the frog in Ginyu's old body?''
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[[WMG: Kaio-sama/King Kai [[NarratorAllAlong is the narrator]]. (In the Japanese version.)]]
Both are played by JoujiYanami, besides King Kai ''is'' a God of sorts. Why wouldn't he be able to narrate the story? (This kinda falls apart in the dub where SeanSchemmel is King Kai, Brice Armstrong narrates DragonBall, KyleHebert narrates DragonBallZ, Andy Chandler narrates DragonBallGT and Doc Morgan narrates DragonBallZKai.)
Both are played by JoujiYanami, besides King Kai ''is'' a God of sorts. Why wouldn't he be able to narrate the story? (This kinda falls apart in the dub where SeanSchemmel is King Kai, Brice Armstrong narrates DragonBall, KyleHebert narrates DragonBallZ, Andy Chandler narrates DragonBallGT and Doc Morgan narrates DragonBallZKai.)
