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23rd Jul '17 3:14:07 PM BurgerLord
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[[WMG: [[WesternAnimation/AdventureTime Princess Bubblegum]] [[{{Crossover}} is a majin]]]]
Think about it; Majin Buu is made out of a gummy-substance, as is Princess Bubblegum (hell, it's ''literally'' in the name). Majin Buu [[MonsterProgenitor made a family]] with someone by the name of "Miss Buu", so Princess Bubblegum being a descendant of Majin Buu isn't too far off. In her words, she's "50% human DNA and 50% 'bubblegum DNA'". If we're getting technical, bubblegum doesn't ''have'' DNA, so she's probably a crossbreed between a majin and a human.
4th Apr '17 7:53:07 AM Chardust
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[[WMG: The natural animals of planet Sadal in universe 7 were HUGE]]
There can't be any other reason saiyans manage to survive without ruining the ecosystem if the animals they hunter were smaller than their houses. Sadal has less gravity than planet Vegeta so more of these big animals could exist and give Saiyans who likely didn't have the time or resources to farm or discover how to farm before they got to the much heavier vegeta
31st Mar '17 3:42:56 AM Duskseeker
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{{ WMG: The reason Trunks and Goten gained Super Saiyan }}
The answer? Simple. Themselves. Just think about it. Many seem to believe that Super Saiyan was a bit of a luxury easily granted to the boys without effort, but I believe there was another factor involved. Trunks in particular is a prodigy amongst Saiyan Hybrids, and at nine years of age is able to unlock a Super Saiyan form. Normally, this seems ridiculous, but look at the given circumstances. He had been training with Vegeta since he was four, in the gravity chamber no less. He's probably built up lots of skill from just adjusting to the harshness of the room for years. Secondly, Super Saiyan is born from inner rage and very great desire. Goku gained it from the desire to defeat Freeza and avenge Krillin. Vegeta gained it from desire to beat Goku, etc. Trunks' desire: desperately wanting to be Vegeta's equal. His talent and desire to win allowed him the power he needed to stand amongst his Saiyan brethren. Goten, is another story. He gained Super Saiyan at seven years old; to many, this seems absolutely preposterous. A boy using a legendary transformation with no effort whatsoever?! But, there was one. Remember when he showed it to his older brother Gohan? He was just as suprised as the audience. Goten mentioned he showed it to Chi-Chi once, which implies he probably gained it sometime before Gohan knew. So who could have possibly helped?! Not Chi-Chi, because she isn't strong enough to propel Goten beyond his normal limits, Not Vegeta, because he didn't know much about him anyway. I believe, the only one to grant this legendary form to Goten must have been Trunks. Please hear me out. Goten mentions how he played "Showdown" with Trunks every day, implying that he got some training through playing really rough. Trunks, having trained in Vegeta's gravity chamber, probably has just enough latent power to boost Goten's abilities through sparing constantly. Also Trunks knew about Goten's transformation, whereas Vegeta, Gohan, and Chi-Chi didn't. This also seems to imply Trunks possibly had a hand in Goten's recent development. Considering how often they hang out amongst themselves, it wouldn't be too unreasonable to say Goten unlocked the majestic form through constant, gripping training and lots of rest. Goten and Trunks gained Super Saiyan through lots of training, and zenkai after the many bouts.

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{{ WMG: The reason Trunks and Goten gained Super Saiyan }}
The answer? Simple. Themselves. Just think about it. Many seem to believe that Super Saiyan was a bit of a luxury easily granted to the boys without effort, but I believe there was another factor involved. Trunks in particular is a prodigy amongst Saiyan Hybrids, and at nine years of age is able to unlock a Super Saiyan form. Normally, this seems ridiculous, but look at the given circumstances. He had been training with Vegeta since he was four, in the gravity chamber no less. He's probably built up lots of skill from just adjusting to the harshness of the room for years. Secondly, Super Saiyan is born from inner rage and very great desire. Goku gained it from the desire to defeat Freeza and avenge Krillin. Vegeta gained it from desire to beat Goku, etc. Trunks' desire: desperately wanting to be Vegeta's equal. His talent and desire to win allowed him the power he needed to stand amongst his Saiyan brethren. Goten, is another story. He gained Super Saiyan at seven years old; to many, this seems absolutely preposterous. A boy using a legendary transformation with no effort whatsoever?! But, there was one. Remember when he showed it to his older brother Gohan? He was just as suprised as the audience. Goten mentioned he showed it to Chi-Chi once, which implies he probably gained it sometime before Gohan knew. So who could have possibly helped?! Not Chi-Chi, because she isn't strong enough to propel Goten beyond his normal limits, Not Vegeta, because he didn't know much about him anyway. I believe, the only one to grant this legendary form to Goten must have been Trunks. Please hear me out. Goten mentions how he played "Showdown" with Trunks every day, implying that he got some training through playing really rough. Trunks, having trained in Vegeta's gravity chamber, probably has just enough latent power to boost Goten's abilities through sparing constantly. Also Trunks knew about Goten's transformation, whereas Vegeta, Gohan, and Chi-Chi didn't. This also seems to imply Trunks possibly had a hand in Goten's recent development. Considering how often they hang out amongst themselves, it wouldn't be too unreasonable to say Goten unlocked the majestic form through constant, gripping training and lots of rest. Goten and Trunks gained Super Saiyan through lots of training, and zenkai after the many bouts.
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31st Mar '17 3:24:12 AM Duskseeker
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31st Mar '17 3:23:11 AM Duskseeker
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31st Mar '17 3:14:48 AM Duskseeker
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The answer? Simple. Themselves. Just think about it. Many seem to believe that Super Saiyan was a bit of a luxury easily granted to the boys without effort, but I believe there was another factor involved. Trunks in particular is a prodigy amongst Saiyan Hybrids, and at nine years of age is able to unlock a Super Saiyan form. Normally, this seems ridiculous, but look at the given circumstances. He had been training with Vegeta since he was four, in the gravity chamber no less. He's probably built up lots of skill from just adjusting to the harshness of the room for years. Secondly, Super Saiyan is born from inner rage and very great desire. Goku gained it from the desire to defeat Freeza and avenge Krillin. Vegeta gained it from desire to beat Goku, etc. Trunks' desire: desperately wanting to be Vegeta's equal. His talent and desire to win allowed him the power he needed to stand amongst his Saiyan brethren. Goten, is another story. He gained Super Saiyan at seven years old; to many, this seems absolutely preposterous. A boy using a legendary transformation with no effort whatsoever?! But, there was one. Remember when he showed it to his older brother Gohan? He was just as suprised as the audience. Goten mentioned he showed it to Chi-Chi once, which implies he probably gained it sometime before Gohan knew. So who could have possibly helped?! Not Chi-Chi, because she isn't strong enough to propel Goten beyond his normal limits, Not Vegeta, because he didn't know much about him anyway. I believe, the only one to grant this legendary form to Goten must have been Trunks. Please hear me out. Goten mentions how he played "Showdown" with Trunks every day, implying that he got some training through playing really rough. Trunks, having trained in Vegeta's gravity chamber, probably has just enough latent power to boost Goten's abilities through sparing constantly. Also Trunks knew about Goten's transformation, whereas Vegeta, Gohan, and Chi-Chi didn't. This also seems to imply Trunks possibly had a hand in Goten's recent development. Considering how often they hang out amongst themselves, it wouldn't be too unreasonable to say Goten unlocked the majestic form through constant, gripping training and lots of rest. Goten and Trunks gained Super Saiyan through lots of training, and zenkai after the many bouts.
29th Mar '17 2:57:23 AM Frishman
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[[WMG: A treatise on power rankings i.e. Why Power Levels are Bullshit]]
Toriyama has gone on record saying he regrets the introduction of power levels to DBZ, and it's pretty easy to see why. They were introduced to showcase Gohan's massive hidden potential and then sort of got away from him. But they still work so long as one takes into account this simple notion: Power Levels represent a person's raw Power, but not their Skill at using it. In support of this, let's look at Frieza. By the man's own admission, he had never trained a day in his life, had no idea how to actually fight, and couldn't even control his power without resorting to power-limiting transformations. He made the claim that his second form had a power level of over 1 million, but this didn't stop a PL 300,000 Goku from being able to go toe-to-toe with a final form Frieza at 25%, despite the fact that logically Frieza's final form ought to, even at 25%, still be stronger than his second form, otherwise why the Hell would you use transformations to begin with? Even with Goku using the Kaioken to keep up, he couldn't possibly have been able to do such a thing unless there was a considerable difference in Skill. The reason Frieza was such a humongous threat was ''because'' his raw power was so overwhelming that even the Z Warriors' vastly superior Skills couldn't bridge the gap. He was just too fast, too strong, too tough. He was the Hulk to their Captain America, or the Superman to their Batman. When faced with overwhelming, earth-shaking power no amount of skill can prevail.

The early DBZ fights also support this notion; Nappa had at least twice as much raw power compared to the Z Warriors, but Krillin and Piccolo were still able to hold him at bay for a considerable length of time because Nappa was a mediocre fighter at best and Krillin and Piccolo have literally entered martial arts tournaments. Goku had issues matching Vegeta when he finally arrived because Vegeta is actually a good fighter and so the difference in Skill was minimal. The late DBZ fights also support this notion; recall that after Majin Buu was first summoned, Gohan said that he thought that he could take him, indicating that he thought Buu's Power wasn't that much different from his own. Unfortunately for Gohan, Buu doesn't feel pain, regenerates like mad, and doesn't tire. Kid Buu, despite being the weakest form in terms of raw Power, still managed to beat down Goku and Vegeta because of these reasons plus the fact that he was so damned unpredictable.

Dragon Ball Super is starting to showcase this a bit more with the Tournament of Power; raw power was a consideration when Gohan and Goku were considering people for the tournament, but they also considered experience and skill to be just as if not more important, and settled on Krillin and Master Roshi due to the former having all kinds of crazy attacks and the latter having experience and tricky techniques.
24th Feb '17 5:33:06 PM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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* Alternative take on this; we know that the world of Dragonball has gone through at least one [[AfterTheEnd apocalyptic event]] when King Piccolo first razed the world 300 years ago. We're not given a state of how advanced the world was when Master Roshi was born, so it's possible that humans were already travelling into space by then. With contact from Earth lost those explorers decided to embrace that alien side, forget their origins and eventually Freeza came around.


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[[WMG: Frieza's army is relatively incompetent on purpose.]]
He's a paranoid psychopath and tyrant. Like many in his position, the Emperor of the Galaxy wanted to make sure no-one would have the guts to try and overthrow him, or subvert him to even the slightest degree. Also, as a high-functioning coward and [[TheBully bully]] he's afraid of those with VillainousValour who wouldn't be cowed. As for the lack of proper training? He's afraid they might get more gutsy; being abnormally powerful mutants they aren't too much of a concern. Given how none of the non-Saiyan Freeza Force thought of turning traitor, to the point of considering reviving him, [[JerkassHasAPoint it worked]]. Still, there are exceptions. With Captain Ginyu and the rest of the Ginyu Force except maybe Jeice, [they're mercenaries and thus loyalty isn't an issue when you're one if not ''the'' wealthiest people in the universe(plus even if its not a VillainousFriendship he and Ginyu are on good terms). The Saiyans meanwhile sparked a rare interest in Frieza; fascination in their power, subconsciously letting them becoming stronger than he'd usually let the get. That, and [[InLoveWithYourSlaughter he loves their violence and bloodlust]], [[MoralMyopia even if he considers them beast for it]]. Even if he thought otherwise bravery is etched into the Saiyans' DNA and would be inconvenient for the lazy Frieza to crush. [[GoneHorriblyRight This backfired]] and he decided it was a bad move. The only reasons he never tried to crush the courage out Vegeta is because he knew that was impossible, and [[TheCorrupter he wanted the Prince of Saiyans to be like him]]. It's unfortunate for Sorbet that he never thought of bolstering the courage of the remaining ranks and gave them proper training, or else there'd never be a need to bring back the worst evil Universe 7 has ever known.
8th Feb '17 1:40:28 PM Rbade
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[[WMG: Broly was defeated by a Chekov's gun; His execution]]
Think about it. Even when they were all working together, the Z gang couldn't even scratch Broly. So why would combining their energy make such an absurd difference? I posit a different hypothesis. Goku took the extra energy to break through Broly's scar tissue. Brooke's execution probably caused him to develop a scar, and the combined energy attack held just enough energy to break through the scar tissue and destroy him from the inside out.
28th Jan '17 8:13:37 PM Chardust
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[[WMG: the fusion dance and potara earrings are designed to make the resulting fusion more arrogant on purpose]]
all fusion characters act very confidant in themselves with Gotenks being infamous for it, Kibito kai thinking he would be a great help in the battle with super buu, and vegito having and\ AwesomeEgo. Fusion is meant to make the resulting fusions full of themselves for emotional stability. they combine personality traits with physical traits and skill. two sets of memories mixing and most fusees being concerned about the fusion being permanent may hinder the result. the fusions have increased egos to focus their personality traits, distract the fusion from existential conflict, and make them instantly ready to take on any opponent sense the ingredients for the fusions probably wouldn't have the confidence to take on their current foe.
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