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[[WMG: As an OldSaveBonus, an antagonistic Hawke will be a BonusBoss]]
If Hawke and the Inquisition AREN'T able to work together, then instead of going on an adventure WITH Hawke, you'll go on an adventure AGAINST them, maybe because they've slipped into WellIntentionedExtremist mode (which might make them a mirror to Meredith and First Enchanter Orsino, depending on which side they support) which will culminate in a BonusBoss battle against Hawke, which would be suitably epic as well as difficult, acting as a ClimaxBoss for the game as well. Afterwards, the player might be faced with a choice of whether or not to arrest Hawke, let them get away/escape...or [[TheHeroDies kill them]]. And because of the GreyAndGrayMorality mentality of the Mage/Templar war, it's entirely possible that a "Nice" Hawke might end up being the Bonus Boss while an "Aggressive" Hawke ends up being an ally depending on where they and the Inquisition fall. And to make the boss fight even more epic, how Hawke fights will be determined by his personality, and class from the second game. To whit;

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[[WMG: As an OldSaveBonus, an antagonistic Hawke will be a BonusBoss]]
{{Superboss}}]]
If Hawke and the Inquisition AREN'T able to work together, then instead of going on an adventure WITH Hawke, you'll go on an adventure AGAINST them, maybe because they've slipped into WellIntentionedExtremist mode (which might make them a mirror to Meredith and First Enchanter Orsino, depending on which side they support) which will culminate in a BonusBoss {{Superboss}} battle against Hawke, which would be suitably epic as well as difficult, acting as a ClimaxBoss for the game as well. Afterwards, the player might be faced with a choice of whether or not to arrest Hawke, let them get away/escape...or [[TheHeroDies kill them]]. And because of the GreyAndGrayMorality mentality of the Mage/Templar war, it's entirely possible that a "Nice" Hawke might end up being the Bonus Boss while an "Aggressive" Hawke ends up being an ally depending on where they and the Inquisition fall. And to make the boss fight even more epic, how Hawke fights will be determined by his personality, and class from the second game. To whit;



** Jossed. Imshael, in keeping with DA tradition, appears as a BonusBoss and doesn't have any bearing on the plot.

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** Jossed. Imshael, in keeping with DA tradition, appears as a BonusBoss an OptionalBoss and doesn't have any bearing on the plot.

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[[WMG: Solas is [[spoiler:a pride demon]]]]
* [[spoiler:His name means "pride" and he comes from a time when elves and spirits were considered equals, and that name would have been taken quite literally.]]
** [[spoiler:Then he breaks almost every established lore or rule about spirits in the DA universe.]]
** [[spoiler:Yeah, he points out that all of that's wrong, though.]]
** [[spoiler: Not all, not even close to all, just some. Indeed on Cole's personal mission Solas is very clear that he sees spirits and mortals as two very different things so I doubt he'd want to blur the lines himself. And indeed him being a spirit would rather torpedo the Elven gods plotline.]]

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[[WMG: Solas is [[spoiler:a a pride demon]]]]
demon]]
* [[spoiler:His His name means "pride" and he comes from a time when elves and spirits were considered equals, and that name would have been taken quite literally.]]
literally.
** [[spoiler:Then Then he breaks almost every established lore or rule about spirits in the DA universe.]]
universe.
** [[spoiler:Yeah, Yeah, he points out that all of that's wrong, though.]]
though.
** [[spoiler: Not all, not even close to all, just some. Indeed on Cole's personal mission Solas is very clear that he sees spirits and mortals as two very different things so I doubt he'd want to blur the lines himself. And indeed him being a spirit would rather torpedo the Elven gods plotline.]]
plotline.



I've noticed some patterns in the history of the DA universe. First is the one between Andraste and Flemeth, as well as [[spoiler: Shartan and Solas]]. Both are known to only have daughters, they both share similar designs, just look at the Andrastian and [[spoiler: Mythal]] iconography. Then we have [[spoiler: the freedom-loving elf who partakes in the revolution against the ruling class and has a close bond to a powerful woman in the movement. Am I talking about Solas or Shartan?]]
* We also have the connection between the Old Gods and [[spoiler: the Titans]]. Both can be heard singing. One of the Old Gods in the Western Approach is said to sleep within a Thaig. Both have a presence in both the physical world and the Fade, since [[spoiler: Lyrium is found both in the Fade and the physical world and is the blood of the Titans]].

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I've noticed some patterns in the history of the DA universe. First is the one between Andraste and Flemeth, as well as [[spoiler: Shartan and Solas]]. Solas. Both are known to only have daughters, they both share similar designs, just look at the Andrastian and [[spoiler: Mythal]] Mythal iconography. Then we have [[spoiler: the freedom-loving elf who partakes in the revolution against the ruling class and has a close bond to a powerful woman in the movement. Am I talking about Solas or Shartan?]]
Shartan?
* We also have the connection between the Old Gods and [[spoiler: the Titans]].Titans. Both can be heard singing. One of the Old Gods in the Western Approach is said to sleep within a Thaig. Both have a presence in both the physical world and the Fade, since [[spoiler: Lyrium is found both in the Fade and the physical world and is the blood of the Titans]].Titans.



[[WMG: The "Golden" City [[spoiler: is Arlathan]]]]
[[spoiler: Arlathan]] is said to have been burned to the ground according to Dalish lore. But since the lore has been proven wrong, [[spoiler: and since Solas has confessed to have created the Veil, ripping apart a lot of Elven architecture, it wouldn't be out of place for the Golden City to be Arlathan.]] What impact this has on the current DA lore is up for debate.

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[[WMG: The "Golden" City [[spoiler: is Arlathan]]]]
[[spoiler: Arlathan]]
Arlathan]]
Arlathan
is said to have been burned to the ground according to Dalish lore. But since the lore has been proven wrong, [[spoiler: and since Solas has confessed to have created the Veil, ripping apart a lot of Elven architecture, it wouldn't be out of place for the Golden City to be Arlathan.]] Arlathan. What impact this has on the current DA lore is up for debate.



[[spoiler: Mythal was murdered by someone and all the other gods were imprisoned. It's already theorized that it could have been the Maker. Who says it wasn't? We have two, now one, god/s running about. So why not a third one? Maybe Andraste got possessed the same way Flemeth was. She too seems to have only had daughters... There are some patterns here...]]
* As of ''Trespasser'', we learn that [[spoiler:Solas banished the Evanuris into the Fade ''after'' they killed Mythal]].
* [[spoiler: In any case there is no evidence so far that the Evanuris and the Tevinter Old Gods are connected.]]

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[[spoiler: Mythal was murdered by someone and all the other gods were imprisoned. It's already theorized that it could have been the Maker. Who says it wasn't? We have two, now one, god/s running about. So why not a third one? Maybe Andraste got possessed the same way Flemeth was. She too seems to have only had daughters... There are some patterns here...]]
here...
* As of ''Trespasser'', we learn that [[spoiler:Solas Solas banished the Evanuris into the Fade ''after'' they killed Mythal]].
Mythal.
* [[spoiler: In any case there is no evidence so far that the Evanuris and the Tevinter Old Gods are connected.]]
connected.



** The Qunari in ''Trespasser'' are far from toothless, but they don't get the best showing here. True, [[spoiler: they've infiltrated the Inquisition, come up with a pretty good plan to conquer the South and are clearly being set up as major antagonists in the next installment. But they lose both the Eluvians and their lyrium supply - potentially game-changing factors - and spend a lot of time jobbing to Solas, who's being set up as an even bigger antagonist.]]
*** Indeed. I (original poster for reference) stand by my theory for now. [[spoiler: The Qunari are only as big a threat as they are in ''Trespasser'' because they're making use of Elven magic, which is in and of itself a betrayal of their beliefs. That rather backs up my points about their current crisis of faith. Also the Inquisition or in fact just the Inner Circle, put pay to their plans with the only outside help being Solas providing one clue. Also, once the plan is shot, they back off. My guess is DA4 will be the fight against Solas with any Qunari shenanigans being a side story. We'll see.]]

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** The Qunari in ''Trespasser'' are far from toothless, but they don't get the best showing here. True, [[spoiler: they've infiltrated the Inquisition, come up with a pretty good plan to conquer the South and are clearly being set up as major antagonists in the next installment. But they lose both the Eluvians and their lyrium supply - potentially game-changing factors - and spend a lot of time jobbing to Solas, who's being set up as an even bigger antagonist.]]
antagonist.
*** Indeed. I (original poster for reference) stand by my theory for now. [[spoiler: The [The Qunari are only as big a threat as they are in ''Trespasser'' because they're making use of Elven magic, which is in and of itself a betrayal of their beliefs. That rather backs up my points about their current crisis of faith. Also the Inquisition or in fact just the Inner Circle, put pay to their plans with the only outside help being Solas providing one clue. Also, once the plan is shot, they back off. My guess is DA4 will be the fight against Solas with any Qunari shenanigans being a side story. We'll see.]]
see.



You have the Fade that reacts to feelings and then a bunch of god-like imprisoned beings who are "Fade-walkers". That the Blight is the wrath of god might not be so far-fetched. In this case it just isn't one but several gods.[[spoiler: Tie this into that a really powerful magister can have control of the blight itself. It's no wonder Corypheus sees himself as a god, he commands their wrath and his will is at their level.]]

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You have the Fade that reacts to feelings and then a bunch of god-like imprisoned beings who are "Fade-walkers". That the Blight is the wrath of god might not be so far-fetched. In this case it just isn't one but several gods.[[spoiler: Tie this into that a really powerful magister can have control of the blight itself. It's no wonder Corypheus sees himself as a god, he commands their wrath and his will is at their level.]]
level.



The Forgotten Ones were elven gods, of a sort, but they weren't the sort of gods you'd want to bring home or worship - famine, pain, madness, corruption, plague, etc. So when the old magisters of Tevinter went there, they brought some of that nastiness back with them. Cue the first blight. [[spoiler: Corypheus noted that the city was corrupt already when he arrived, and empty. But just because he didn't see the gods there didn't mean they were absent. Now keep in mind that multiple magisters went into the Black City and came back... defeating Corypheus was not the end of this, even with Fen'Harel still mucking about.]]

Building on the above point, more spoilers: [[spoiler: Given the evidence that a god can ride shotgun in a mortal (See Flemeth/Mythal) it's possible that the reason the city was empty was that Corypheus was not the first magister to arrive - his competition beat him there, and the Forgotten Ones had taken up new residencies in mortal bodies. Or it could be Corypheus was playing host to one of these Forgotten Ones himself, and not know it. Or he knows and forgot. It may be best to take any observations from Corypheus with a grain of salt though - he's not exactly the most mentally-stable or objective of sources.]]

To add further: [[spoiler: It's also possible that the "dead whispers" that Corypheus heard when he entered the Black City was actually the Blight (or MAYBE, The Forgotten Ones, who I am getting more and more convinced are the AbstractApotheosis of the Blight) teasing him the same way the Well of Sorrows whispers in your head, and since he's not exactly knowledgeable of the TFO's lore, he couldn't decipher what they were saying (according to what Morrigan will say if you drank from the Well instead of her). So him being the carrier of the original Blight is actually him carrying out the TFO's orders... them being the representatives of disease and pain and all that.]]

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The Forgotten Ones were elven gods, of a sort, but they weren't the sort of gods you'd want to bring home or worship - famine, pain, madness, corruption, plague, etc. So when the old magisters of Tevinter went there, they brought some of that nastiness back with them. Cue the first blight. [[spoiler: Corypheus noted that the city was corrupt already when he arrived, and empty. But just because he didn't see the gods there didn't mean they were absent. Now keep in mind that multiple magisters went into the Black City and came back... defeating Corypheus was not the end of this, even with Fen'Harel still mucking about.]]

about.

Building on the above point, more spoilers: [[spoiler: point: Given the evidence that a god can ride shotgun in a mortal (See Flemeth/Mythal) it's possible that the reason the city was empty was that Corypheus was not the first magister to arrive - his competition beat him there, and the Forgotten Ones had taken up new residencies in mortal bodies. Or it could be Corypheus was playing host to one of these Forgotten Ones himself, and not know it. Or he knows and forgot. It may be best to take any observations from Corypheus with a grain of salt though - he's not exactly the most mentally-stable or objective of sources.]]

sources.

To add further: [[spoiler: It's also possible that the "dead whispers" that Corypheus heard when he entered the Black City was actually the Blight (or MAYBE, The Forgotten Ones, who I am getting more and more convinced are the AbstractApotheosis of the Blight) teasing him the same way the Well of Sorrows whispers in your head, and since he's not exactly knowledgeable of the TFO's lore, he couldn't decipher what they were saying (according to what Morrigan will say if you drank from the Well instead of her). So him being the carrier of the original Blight is actually him carrying out the TFO's orders... them being the representatives of disease and pain and all that.]]
that.



Let's take the above to an even further point - the reason these were sealed away isn't because of some kind of moral whatever on the part of Fen'Harel, but because their existence itself posed a threat to all life on Thedas. [[spoiler: The reason Corypheus found it empty is because they had killed whatever inhabited it prior and Fen'Harel sealed it off to stop them from infecting the entirety of the Fade with the Darkspawn taint. Corypheus himself is just a modified ghoul and he and the other magisters sent back by those Gods to cause enough death and destruction that the Veil would be weak enough for the Alpha-Darkspawn to escape back into the world.]]

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Let's take the above to an even further point - the reason these were sealed away isn't because of some kind of moral whatever on the part of Fen'Harel, but because their existence itself posed a threat to all life on Thedas. [[spoiler: The reason Corypheus found it empty is because they had killed whatever inhabited it prior and Fen'Harel sealed it off to stop them from infecting the entirety of the Fade with the Darkspawn taint. Corypheus himself is just a modified ghoul and he and the other magisters sent back by those Gods to cause enough death and destruction that the Veil would be weak enough for the Alpha-Darkspawn to escape back into the world.]]
world.



[[spoiler: Just before the Inquisitor rips the orb from his hands, Corypheus, in his panicked ranting, says "I have walked the halls of the GOLDEN City, crossed the ages . . ." A slip of the tongue? Or an accidental admission that he was lying when he told Hawke that the city was already black when the magisters arrived? If the halls of the city were black when he was there, why would he call them golden, especially in an unguarded moment like that?]]

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[[spoiler: Just before the Inquisitor rips the orb from his hands, Corypheus, in his panicked ranting, says "I have walked the halls of the GOLDEN City, crossed the ages . . ." A slip of the tongue? Or an accidental admission that he was lying when he told Hawke that the city was already black when the magisters arrived? If the halls of the city were black when he was there, why would he call them golden, especially in an unguarded moment like that?]]
that?



* [[spoiler: If this turns out to be correct, Flemeth/Mythal's ability to turn into a High Dragon suddenly is extremely key. And Flemeth/Mythal's desire to have a Warden-spawned reincarnation of the Old God becomes much more understandable...]]
* [[spoiler: Also note the iconography and statues of Mythal. Pretty draconic, wouldn't you say? Also reminiscent of the depictions of Andraste. Another note is how Arlathan and Tevinter is very much the same. You have priests with magic ruling over slaves in the name of gods. It might even be that the target for Mythal's vengeance is the Maker.]]
* This also explains why Solas was so freaked out by the [[spoiler: Grey Wardens planning to kill Old Gods in their sleep before any darkspawn get to them. He wanted his old pals banished, not killed.]]
* [[spoiler: Another parallel: The Maker is said to have imprisoned the Old Gods underground, which was also what Fen'Harel did to the elven gods. It even fits the "7 Old Gods, 2 surfacers" part.]]
* If this theory is true, then the Elven Pantheon would be even worse in hindsight. [[spoiler:The Tevinter Imperium may be nothing more than the fallen Elven gods petty revenge against their former upstart slaves who dared to rebel against them.]]

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* [[spoiler: If this turns out to be correct, Flemeth/Mythal's ability to turn into a High Dragon suddenly is extremely key. And Flemeth/Mythal's desire to have a Warden-spawned reincarnation of the Old God becomes much more understandable...]]
understandable...
* [[spoiler: Also note the iconography and statues of Mythal. Pretty draconic, wouldn't you say? Also reminiscent of the depictions of Andraste. Another note is how Arlathan and Tevinter is very much the same. You have priests with magic ruling over slaves in the name of gods. It might even be that the target for Mythal's vengeance is the Maker.]]
Maker.
* This also explains why Solas was so freaked out by the [[spoiler: Grey Wardens planning to kill Old Gods in their sleep before any darkspawn get to them. He wanted his old pals banished, not killed.]]
killed.
* [[spoiler: Another parallel: The Maker is said to have imprisoned the Old Gods underground, which was also what Fen'Harel did to the elven gods. It even fits the "7 Old Gods, 2 surfacers" part.]]
part.
* If this theory is true, then the Elven Pantheon would be even worse in hindsight. [[spoiler:The The Tevinter Imperium may be nothing more than the fallen Elven gods petty revenge against their former upstart slaves who dared to rebel against them.]]



** If you read the Astrarium Codex lends credence to this theory as it mentions [[spoiler: Tenebrium is attributed to both Falon’Din AND Lusacan. Of course the Silentir constellation is linked to Mythal and Dumat which raises more questions then answers yet it might explain how Flemeth knew the Dark Ritual to capture the Archdemon's untainted soul during Origins. Mythal told Flemeth of its use in escaping Dumat's death at the end of the the First Blight.]]

* As of the ''Trespasser'' DLC this one seems to be {{Jossed}}. [[spoiler: The Elven gods were mortal mages that became powerful enough to be viewed as gods but were sealed away from the world when Fen'Harel (AKA Solas) created the Veil. As such they are not the Old Gods, who are demonstrably not stuck in the Fade.]]
** Not necessarily. [[spoiler:They may not be Old Gods, but they were still powerful enough to be viewed as gods and we do know of one elven god who can turn into a dragon...]]
** Taking this one step further... [[spoiler: the Elven Gods might have been what Keiran had been, a mortal mage who houses the soul of an Old God not unlike the Abominations of demonic possessions. This could explain why the Evanurius went mad in the end if what befell them was any similar to Anders, gone mad with power or their purpose was corrupted by the weak hearts of mortals. Mythal was the only one who remained relatively sane and moral which is why Solas is so loyal to her: she literally was the best of them as she wasn't overcome by deprivation. Which means the Eighth Old God stricken from history would be Flemeth as that's exactly what happened to Mythal! She was struck down by seven of the Evanuris. By creating the Veil these seven were banished to the Fade. From within the Fade they may have only been able to influence the world as Spirits and Demons do by possessing others only instead of people they chose Dragons this time around. We've seen animal possessions before with the cat and desire demon in Shale's DLC. Which means in a sense the Chantry was RIGHT claiming these were not gods but spirits. Of course whether the original spirits that possessed the Evanuris were actual spirits or gods...]]

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** If you read the Astrarium Codex lends credence to this theory as it mentions [[spoiler: Tenebrium is attributed to both Falon’Din AND Lusacan. Of course the Silentir constellation is linked to Mythal and Dumat which raises more questions then answers yet it might explain how Flemeth knew the Dark Ritual to capture the Archdemon's untainted soul during Origins. Mythal told Flemeth of its use in escaping Dumat's death at the end of the the First Blight.]]

Blight.

* As of the ''Trespasser'' DLC this one seems to be {{Jossed}}. [[spoiler: The Elven gods were mortal mages that became powerful enough to be viewed as gods but were sealed away from the world when Fen'Harel (AKA Solas) created the Veil. As such they are not the Old Gods, who are demonstrably not stuck in the Fade.]]
Fade.
** Not necessarily. [[spoiler:They They may not be Old Gods, but they were still powerful enough to be viewed as gods and we do know of one elven god who can turn into a dragon...]]
dragon...
** Taking this one step further... [[spoiler: the Elven Gods might have been what Keiran had been, a mortal mage who houses the soul of an Old God not unlike the Abominations of demonic possessions. This could explain why the Evanurius went mad in the end if what befell them was any similar to Anders, gone mad with power or their purpose was corrupted by the weak hearts of mortals. Mythal was the only one who remained relatively sane and moral which is why Solas is so loyal to her: she literally was the best of them as she wasn't overcome by deprivation. Which means the Eighth Old God stricken from history would be Flemeth as that's exactly what happened to Mythal! She was struck down by seven of the Evanuris. By creating the Veil these seven were banished to the Fade. From within the Fade they may have only been able to influence the world as Spirits and Demons do by possessing others only instead of people they chose Dragons this time around. We've seen animal possessions before with the cat and desire demon in Shale's DLC. Which means in a sense the Chantry was RIGHT claiming these were not gods but spirits. Of course whether the original spirits that possessed the Evanuris were actual spirits or gods...]]
gods...



*** Confirmed; they were bluffing. Only a few subtle ones made it in, though, such as when the Inquisition is invited to Redcliffe by Fiona but discover that no one expected them upon arrival because [[spoiler:Gereon Alexius manipulated the timeline so that Fiona never went to Val Royeaux]].

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*** Confirmed; they were bluffing. Only a few subtle ones made it in, though, such as when the Inquisition is invited to Redcliffe by Fiona but discover that no one expected them upon arrival because [[spoiler:Gereon Gereon Alexius manipulated the timeline so that Fiona never went to Val Royeaux]].Royeaux.



** [[spoiler:Partially confirmed. If Alistair remained a Grey Warden, he shows up to aid Hawke and the Inquisitor; the ''player character'' doesn't kill him, but the ''player'' can by having him perform a HeroicSacrifice.]]

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** [[spoiler:Partially Partially confirmed. If Alistair remained a Grey Warden, he shows up to aid Hawke and the Inquisitor; the ''player character'' doesn't kill him, but the ''player'' can by having him perform a HeroicSacrifice.]]



** [[spoiler: Confirmed. The player's visit to the Orlesian court coincides with an assassination attempt. You can either save her or choose to let it happen.]]

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** [[spoiler: Confirmed. The player's visit to the Orlesian court coincides with an assassination attempt. You can either save her or choose to let it happen.]]



** [[spoiler: Confirmed. If the player recruits the Templars, Fiona must be fought and killed during the battle of Haven.]]

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** [[spoiler: Confirmed. If the player recruits the Templars, Fiona must be fought and killed during the battle of Haven.]]



** Jossed. She's there, though! [[spoiler:Solas kills her in the ending stinger, however... maybe. The interplay of gods can become rather complex.]]

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** Jossed. She's there, though! [[spoiler:Solas Solas kills her in the ending stinger, however... maybe. The interplay of gods can become rather complex.]]



** [[spoiler: Partially confirmed, in the same way as Alistair.]]

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** [[spoiler: Partially confirmed, in the same way as Alistair.]]



** [[spoiler: Jossed. Her death is what kickstarts the plot, but you're not responsible... well, not exactly.]]

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** [[spoiler: Jossed. Her death is what kickstarts the plot, but you're not responsible... well, not exactly.]]



** Jossed. [[spoiler:Mostly. She dies in the BadFuture if you side with the mages, but not by your hand.]]

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** Jossed. [[spoiler:Mostly.Mostly. She dies in the BadFuture if you side with the mages, but not by your hand.]]



* Loghain, providing he survived the first game
** [[spoiler: Partially confirmed, in the same way as Alistair above.]]

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* Loghain, providing provided he survived the first game
game.
** [[spoiler: Partially confirmed, in the same way as Alistair above.]]



** [[spoiler: It is possible for them to die if you botch a certain War Table mission after speaking with Cole.]]
*** [[spoiler:The war table op can't be "botched", merely not ever carried out. It is still possible that Rhys might extricate Evangeline from the Red Templars without Inquisition assistance.]]

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** [[spoiler: It is possible for them to die if you botch a certain War Table mission after speaking with Cole.]]
Cole.
*** [[spoiler:The The war table op can't be "botched", merely not ever carried out. It is still possible that Rhys might extricate Evangeline from the Red Templars without Inquisition assistance.]]



** [[spoiler:Not exactly. But if you recruited Sebastian in ''II'' and allowed Anders to live, he does make good on his threat to invade Kirkwall, and there's a war table mission that lets you take a side in the conflict.]]

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** [[spoiler:Not Not exactly. But if you recruited Sebastian in ''II'' and allowed Anders to live, he does make good on his threat to invade Kirkwall, and there's a war table mission that lets you take a side in the conflict.]]



** [[spoiler:Confirmed - to an extent. The Warden-Commander who gets killed is not the Hero of Ferelden, and her death is actually a HeroicSacrifice.]]

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** [[spoiler:Confirmed Confirmed - to an extent. The Warden-Commander who gets killed is not the Hero of Ferelden, and her death is actually a HeroicSacrifice.]]



** Either killing [[spoiler: Anders]] or letting him go free and the effect that has on [[spoiler: Sebastian]].

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** Either killing [[spoiler: Anders]] Anders or letting him go free and the effect that has on [[spoiler: Sebastian]].Sebastian.



** Who Hawke sided with in ''Legacy'', Larius or Janeka. [[spoiler:And what Corypheus is doing after the end.]]

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** Who Hawke sided with in ''Legacy'', Larius or Janeka. [[spoiler:And And what Corypheus is doing after the end.]]



** The fate of [[spoiler: [[TheExile Merrill's clan.]]]]
** Giving Fenris [[spoiler: back to Danarius.]]

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** The fate of [[spoiler: [[TheExile Merrill's clan.]]]]
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** Giving Fenris [[spoiler: back to Danarius.]]



* [[spoiler:Sort of Jossed. He ''is'' responsible for the Elder One's rise to power since he gave the Elder One the artifact that made it possible. But he only did it because he couldn't empower the orb himself, and he needed it to aid the Elves. And as Solas, he helps the Inquisitor stop the Elder One's ambitions. Fen'Harel is arguably the ''BigGood'' of the game. Fen'harel isn't exactly a god of malevolent trickery as the Dalish [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade depict]] him as, but more a god of "[[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished That's not what I wanted to happen!]]"]]
* [[spoiler: Sort of confirmed as of ''Trespasser''. While technically not the villain of Inquisition, Solas is definitely being set up as an antagonist in future games, albeit a sympathetic one. He likely ''would'' have been the BigBad, [[NiceJobFixingItVillain had Corypheus not stolen his orb and ruined his plans]].]]

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* [[spoiler:Sort Sort of Jossed. He ''is'' responsible for the Elder One's rise to power since he gave the Elder One the artifact that made it possible. But he only did it because he couldn't empower the orb himself, and he needed it to aid the Elves. And as Solas, he helps the Inquisitor stop the Elder One's ambitions. Fen'Harel is arguably the ''BigGood'' of the game. Fen'harel isn't exactly a god of malevolent trickery as the Dalish [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade depict]] him as, but more a god of "[[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished That's not what I wanted to happen!]]"]]
happen!]]"
* [[spoiler: Sort of confirmed as of ''Trespasser''. While technically not the villain of Inquisition, Solas is definitely being set up as an antagonist in future games, albeit a sympathetic one. He likely ''would'' have been the BigBad, [[NiceJobFixingItVillain had Corypheus not stolen his orb and ruined his plans]].]]
plans]].



* [[spoiler:Confirmed! The Elder One, aka Corypheus, aka one of the first Darkspawn ever, takes advantage of the ongoing War to aid his own plans. Whoever the Inquisitor doesn't choose as allies will become Corypheus' soldiers.]]
** [[spoiler: That said Corypheus is the only Darkspawn involved. All other Darkspawn encountered in the game are just random surface raids, show no sign of planning around or even knowing about Corypheus's plans and, on a couple of occasions, actually attack his forces when they get in the way.]]

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* [[spoiler:Confirmed! Confirmed! The Elder One, aka Corypheus, aka one of the first Darkspawn ever, takes advantage of the ongoing War to aid his own plans. Whoever the Inquisitor doesn't choose as allies will become Corypheus' soldiers.]]
soldiers.
** [[spoiler: That said Corypheus is the only Darkspawn involved. All other Darkspawn encountered in the game are just random surface raids, show no sign of planning around or even knowing about Corypheus's plans and, on a couple of occasions, actually attack his forces when they get in the way.]]
way.



[[WMG: Like Origins and Mass Effect 3, we will choose between factions to aid us in the final battle throughout the game.]]

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[[WMG: Like Origins ''Origins'' and Mass ''Mass Effect 3, 3'', we will choose between factions to aid us in the final battle throughout the game.]]



** Another could be Grey Wardens (led by Alistair, Loghain, Carver/Bethany and/or Stroud if still alive and in the Wardens) vs The Darkspawn (led by The Architect if still alive and/or Corypheus). With the Wardens you get a skilled Warden recruit, while with Darkspawn you get The Messenger.

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** Another could be Grey Wardens (led by Alistair, Loghain, Carver/Bethany and/or Stroud if still alive and in the Wardens) vs vs. The Darkspawn (led by The Architect if still alive and/or Corypheus). With the Wardens you get a skilled Warden recruit, while with Darkspawn you get The Messenger.



** Also you can choose [[spoiler: to ally with the Wardens or send them away and can also pick your preferred ruler/s of Orlais.]]

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** Also you can choose [[spoiler: to ally with the Wardens or send them away and can also pick your preferred ruler/s of Orlais.]]
Orlais.



* [[spoiler:Not really. Corypheus is a singular BigBad, Flemeth's interest is marginal and other players are either on your side by default or become Corypheus' minions.]]

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* [[spoiler:Not Not really. Corypheus is a singular BigBad, Flemeth's interest is marginal and other players are either on your side by default or become Corypheus' minions.]]
minions.



* You do, but not where you'd expect: you [[spoiler: reunite the elven god Fen'Harel who travelled with you as Solas with his elven pantheon kin Mythal/Flemeth]]

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* You do, but not where you'd expect: you [[spoiler: reunite the elven god Fen'Harel who travelled traveled with you as Solas with his elven pantheon kin Mythal/Flemeth]]
Mythal/Flemeth.



Hints have been given throughout the last few games that certain beliefs held by Thedas are either inaccurate or out-right wrong, especially in VideoGame/DragonAgeII with the "the Stone is under Orlais" and Sandal's prophecy as two standout examples, plus the history of the elves and dwarves are shown as having gaps and inaccuracies going back to the Dalish Elf Origin and the Witch DLC. The truth (whatever it is) will be uncovered as a side effect of the Inquisition's attempt to stop the Mage-Templar War and tie into the Maker, the Archdemons, the Elven Gods and Flemeth, who's easily the franchise's biggest mystery to date.
* Depending on your point of view, [[spoiler: the Elven gods existing but not really being gods and Lyrium being alive are both pretty big]].
* [[spoiler: The veil being an artificial construct and not Thedas "natural state", and the fact that it is possible to destroy it permanently are arguably even bigger reveals]]

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Hints have been given throughout the last few games that certain beliefs held by Thedas are either inaccurate or out-right wrong, especially in VideoGame/DragonAgeII ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' with the "the Stone is under Orlais" and Sandal's prophecy as two standout examples, plus the history of the elves and dwarves are shown as having gaps and inaccuracies going back to the Dalish Elf Origin and the Witch ''Witch Hunt'' DLC. The truth (whatever it is) will be uncovered as a side effect of the Inquisition's attempt to stop the Mage-Templar War and tie into the Maker, the Archdemons, the Elven Gods and Flemeth, who's easily the franchise's biggest mystery to date.
* Depending on your point of view, [[spoiler: the Elven gods existing but not really being gods and Lyrium being alive are both pretty big]].
big.
* [[spoiler: The veil being an artificial construct and not Thedas "natural state", and the fact that it is possible to destroy it permanently are arguably even bigger reveals]]
reveals.



[[WMG: Reaction Commands will be carried over from Mass Effect.]]
Following the dialogue wheel as well, only instead of Paragon/Renegade it will use the dialogue symbols from VideoGame/DragonAgeII for more variety of actions. A Snarky reaction can interrupt an opponent by distracting him while an ally sneaks past them, or a Diplomatic action to interrupt two arguing parties to recommend a third action, or slipping a bribe to a guard while in conversation with a knowing wink.

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[[WMG: Reaction Commands will be carried over from Mass Effect.''Mass Effect''.]]
Following the dialogue wheel as well, only instead of Paragon/Renegade it will use the dialogue symbols from VideoGame/DragonAgeII ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' for more variety of actions. A Snarky reaction can interrupt an opponent by distracting him while an ally sneaks past them, or a Diplomatic action to interrupt two arguing parties to recommend a third action, or slipping a bribe to a guard while in conversation with a knowing wink.



*** [[spoiler: You do, however, get to meet two Elven gods and, with the DLC, an Avvar god as well.]]

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*** [[spoiler: You do, however, get to meet two Elven gods and, with the DLC, an Avvar god as well.]]
well.



Because of Anders [[spoiler: blowing up the Chantry]] and possibly Bethany/Carver or Nathaniel helping Hawke fight against Meredith, Wardens will be put in a very difficult position by the Chantry and/or the Templar Order. There will be rumors and conspiracy theories running around that Wardens set all of this up to take control. All of this will cause Wardens to lose much of their public support. Additionally apostates who previously joined the Order to hide from the Chantry will desert and [[spoiler: join the Mage-Templar war.]] Since the Anderfels are said to be both very religious and practically run by the Wardens, the country will turn into a battlefield between the Order trying to maintain its independence and influences in the area and Templars believing it's time to get the world rid of dangerous heretics. The situation will be even more dire if the Hero of Ferelden also was pro-mage.
* [[spoiler:Confirmed. If anything, their position is worse. They are deceived by Corypheus with a fake Calling and become his brainwashed minions. And he uses them to attack the Conclave, destroying the best chance for a peaceful resolution to the Mage-Templar War and causing the death of Divine Justinia. Then they're nearly manipulated into handing Corypheus a demon army, after which the Inquisitor can choose to exile them from Orlais. It's doubtful whether the Wardens will ever recover from this debacle.]]

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Because of Anders [[spoiler: blowing up the Chantry]] Chantry and possibly Bethany/Carver or Nathaniel helping Hawke fight against Meredith, Wardens will be put in a very difficult position by the Chantry and/or the Templar Order. There will be rumors and conspiracy theories running around that Wardens set all of this up to take control. All of this will cause Wardens to lose much of their public support. Additionally Additionally, apostates who previously joined the Order to hide from the Chantry will desert and [[spoiler: join the Mage-Templar war.]] war. Since the Anderfels are said to be both very religious and practically run by the Wardens, the country will turn into a battlefield between the Order trying to maintain its independence and influences in the area and Templars believing it's time to get the world rid of dangerous heretics. The situation will be even more dire if the Hero of Ferelden also was pro-mage.
* [[spoiler:Confirmed.Confirmed. If anything, their position is worse. They are deceived by Corypheus with a fake Calling and become his brainwashed minions. And he uses them to attack the Conclave, destroying the best chance for a peaceful resolution to the Mage-Templar War and causing the death of Divine Justinia. Then they're nearly manipulated into handing Corypheus a demon army, after which the Inquisitor can choose to exile them from Orlais. It's doubtful whether the Wardens will ever recover from this debacle.]]
debacle.



You would have to fulfill several requirements throughout the three games, of course. The first thing would be to have the Warden romance Zevran in ''Origins'' and have a threesome (or the foursome) with Isabela. In ''Dragon Age II;;, Hawke will have to romance Isabela and then have a threesome with Zevran (due to the glitch that Zevran will still have sex despite being in a relationship with the Warden). Cue them all meeting in Dragon Age III. With the right dialogue options, the PC can convince them to participate in an orgy with him/her (and possibly their love interest).

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You would have to fulfill several requirements throughout the three games, of course. The first thing would be to have the Warden romance Zevran in ''Origins'' and have a threesome (or the foursome) with Isabela. In ''Dragon Age II;;, II'', Hawke will have to romance Isabela and then have a threesome with Zevran (due to the glitch that Zevran will still have sex despite being in a relationship with the Warden). Cue them all meeting in Dragon Age III. With the right dialogue options, the PC can convince them to participate in an orgy with him/her (and possibly their love interest).



Using the same appearance, class, personality, and background that you used for VideoGame/DragonAgeII. It would be easier to program for Hawke than the Warden, I think. Hawke will still also have their first name, but since that's player-designed they'll still just be known as "Hawke" (possibly also with a LampshadeHanging; "Just call me Hawke. Everyone else does.") Hawke may not join the Inquisition, but it may turn out that their goals align in a late game mission and they'll join forces temporarily, which means you'll get to use your old character in your party for one adventure. Along the way there will be lots of [[ShoutOut shout outs]] and [[CallBack callbacks]] to Dragon Age II and the situation Hawke helped create which may come with some regret on Hawke's part. Assuming you do it right, however, and Hawke will pledge their further support to the Inquisition with whatever forces they might have (perhaps a group of like-minded Templars or Mages). Of course, that's assuming Hawke and the Inquisition CAN work together. If they're too diametrically opposed it would lead to...

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Using the same appearance, class, personality, and background that you used for VideoGame/DragonAgeII.''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''. It would be easier to program for Hawke than the Warden, I think. Hawke will still also have their first name, but since that's player-designed they'll still just be known as "Hawke" (possibly also with a LampshadeHanging; "Just call me Hawke. Everyone else does.") Hawke may not join the Inquisition, but it may turn out that their goals align in a late game mission and they'll join forces temporarily, which means you'll get to use your old character in your party for one adventure. Along the way there will be lots of [[ShoutOut shout outs]] and [[CallBack callbacks]] to Dragon Age II and the situation Hawke helped create which may come with some regret on Hawke's part. Assuming you do it right, however, and Hawke will pledge their further support to the Inquisition with whatever forces they might have (perhaps a group of like-minded Templars or Mages). Of course, that's assuming Hawke and the Inquisition CAN work together. If they're too diametrically opposed it would lead to...



** The notion that Fiona is not Alistar's mother is indirectly supported by the last issue of ''Until We Sleep'', where [[spoiler:King Maric]] refers to Alistair's mother as being no longer in the material world, along with Cailain (definitely dead) and Loghain (very likely dead in the BW canon), while Fiona is quite definitely alive at Andoral's Reach in the time frame the comic books take place.

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** The notion that Fiona is not Alistar's mother is indirectly supported by the last issue of ''Until We Sleep'', where [[spoiler:King Maric]] King Maric refers to Alistair's mother as being no longer in the material world, along with Cailain (definitely dead) and Loghain (very likely dead in the BW canon), while Fiona is quite definitely alive at Andoral's Reach in the time frame the comic books take place.



* [[spoiler:Confirmed in the saddest way possible. Assuming you side with the Mages and Alistair is king of Ferelden, they do meet... but only because Alistair is exiling her and her Mages from Ferelden for taking over Redcliffe. And he never finds out she is his mother.]]

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* [[spoiler:Confirmed Confirmed in the saddest way possible. Assuming you side with the Mages and Alistair is king of Ferelden, they do meet... but only because Alistair is exiling her and her Mages from Ferelden for taking over Redcliffe. And he never finds out she is his mother.]]
mother.



Jossed; Although its interesting to note that the Dwarf inquisitor is from a Carta family like Brosca and distantly related to Shale. [[http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/House_Cadash House Cadash]]

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Jossed; * Jossed. Although its it's interesting to note that the Dwarf inquisitor is from a Carta family like Brosca and distantly related to Shale. [[http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/House_Cadash House Cadash]]



[[WMG: The Grey Warden will receive a WhatTheHellHero from [[spoiler: Wynne's ghost]]]]
[[spoiler: She]] did say that if the Grey Warden didn't do their job as they should [[spoiler: she would return from death to give them a lecture]]... and [[spoiler: disappearing during the events of ''Dragon Age II'' and the war is a pretty big thing to call them out over]].

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[[WMG: The Grey Warden will receive a WhatTheHellHero from [[spoiler: Wynne's ghost]]]]
[[spoiler: She]]
ghost]]
She
did say that if the Grey Warden didn't do their job as they should [[spoiler: she would return from death to give them a lecture]]... lecture... and [[spoiler: disappearing during the events of ''Dragon Age II'' and the war is a pretty big thing to call them out over]].over.



There will be a price for killing party members - or sending them to a FateWorseThanDeath ([[spoiler: Fenris, Isabela]]) - in the first two games. The consequences could be aimed squarely at the Warden / Hawke, or they could go meta and punish your Inquisitor - your character may not be responsible, but ''you'' are.

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There will be a price for killing party members - or sending them to a FateWorseThanDeath ([[spoiler: Fenris, Isabela]]) (Fenris, Isabela) - in the first two games. The consequences could be aimed squarely at the Warden / Hawke, or they could go meta and punish your Inquisitor - your character may not be responsible, but ''you'' are.






** Aaaaaand confirmed! [[spoiler:In a way. There are plenty of real high dragons, including one that you can actually tame if you drink from the Well of Sorrows. In terms of fakes, you have Morrigan (if she drinks from the Well instead), as well as the fake archdemon Corypheus's forces keep throwing at you. It's a real dragon, but a fake archdemon, if that makes any sense?]]

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** Aaaaaand confirmed! [[spoiler:In In a way. There are plenty of real high dragons, including one that you can actually tame if you drink from the Well of Sorrows. In terms of fakes, you have Morrigan (if she drinks from the Well instead), as well as the fake archdemon Corypheus's forces keep throwing at you. It's a real dragon, but a fake archdemon, if that makes any sense?]]
sense?



* Somewhat, depending on how you see [[spoiler:Solas/Fen'Harel]] and what exactly his original actions ''were'' (the whole thing is [[AmbiguousSituation deliberately vague]]). He's not ''currently'' a major authority [[spoiler:as even the Dalish are wary of him due to the stories]], but past or future developments after that CliffHanger await.

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* Somewhat, depending on how you see [[spoiler:Solas/Fen'Harel]] Solas/Fen'Harel and what exactly his original actions ''were'' (the whole thing is [[AmbiguousSituation deliberately vague]]). He's not ''currently'' a major authority [[spoiler:as as even the Dalish are wary of him due to the stories]], stories, but past or future developments after that CliffHanger await.



Leliana and Anders' potential deaths have already been overwritten (with Leliana ''maybe'' having an out due to the Sacred Ashes). Why not do the same to one that no one seems to like (and was shoehorned into the story for the sake of [[spoiler: a boss battle]])? Bonus points if Cassandra is in your party when he turns up. "I knew Varric was lying! That part never made any sense to me."

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Leliana and Anders' potential deaths have already been overwritten (with Leliana ''maybe'' having an out due to the Sacred Ashes). Why not do the same to one that no one seems to like (and was shoehorned into the story for the sake of [[spoiler: a boss battle]])? battle)? Bonus points if Cassandra is in your party when he turns up. "I knew Varric was lying! That part never made any sense to me."



** [[spoiler: Jossed. She's been attempting to prevent Celene's assassination and joins up with the Inquisition later to help stop Corypheus.]]

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** [[spoiler: Jossed. She's been attempting to prevent Celene's assassination and joins up with the Inquisition later to help stop Corypheus.]]



** [[spoiler: Jossed. Flemeth does appear, though it is once again uncertain what her angle is, even after she helps you. And as of the TheStinger, we don't know if she's even alive anymore or not.]]

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** [[spoiler: Jossed. Flemeth does appear, though it is once again uncertain what her angle is, even after she helps you. And as of the TheStinger, we don't know if she's even alive anymore or not.]]



** [[spoiler: In a way, it's the opposite, since Fen'Harel joins your party in the form of Solas, making him a good guy.]]

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** [[spoiler: In a way, it's the opposite, since Fen'Harel joins your party in the form of Solas, making him a good guy.]]



** [[spoiler: Confirmed!]]

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** [[spoiler: Confirmed!]]
Confirmed!



Closing the tear in the Veil will require cutting the world off completely from the Fade - [[TheMagicGoesAway removing magic from it]]. [[WMG/PoisonOakEpilepticTrees I really don't want this one to be true]], because it would wreck the setting pretty badly and probably end the series...I'm hoping it's just my memories of playing [[spoiler: VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI]] and not that I'm on to something.
* Interesting WMG, although I'm hoping that chances of this happening are unlikely. If Sandal's prophecy in VideoGame/DragonAgeII [[UnreliableNarrator can be taken at his word]], [[TheMagicComesBack the magic is coming back in some way or another.]] We'll probably see how that happens in the game itself.

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Closing the tear in the Veil will require cutting the world off completely from the Fade - [[TheMagicGoesAway removing magic from it]]. [[WMG/PoisonOakEpilepticTrees I really don't want this one to be true]], because it would wreck the setting pretty badly and probably end the series...I'm hoping it's just my memories of playing [[spoiler: VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI]] ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' and not that I'm on to something.
* Interesting WMG, although I'm hoping that chances of this happening are unlikely. If Sandal's prophecy in VideoGame/DragonAgeII ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' [[UnreliableNarrator can be taken at his word]], [[TheMagicComesBack the magic is coming back in some way or another.]] We'll probably see how that happens in the game itself.






** As of ''The Descent'' [[spoiler: Sort-of confirmed! Maybe! It's not clear whether Valta has become a mage or not after connecting with the Titan (She very vaguely says that the thing she did that looked like a spell was "not a spell" but "an accident") but it certainly ''looks'' like she just became a mage.]]

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** As of ''The Descent'' [[spoiler: Sort-of confirmed! Maybe! It's not clear whether Valta has become a mage or not after connecting with the Titan (She very vaguely says that the thing she did that looked like a spell was "not a spell" but "an accident") but it certainly ''looks'' like she just became a mage.]]
mage.



** According to an early dialogue with Varric, Merrill is helping her fellow Dalish nomads, Fenris is indeed busy killing any Tevinter slaver he finds, leaving a convenient trail of corpses behind him should someone seek to contact him, and, as a conversation very late in game [[spoiler: between Morrigan and Flemeth shows, the Elven goddess Mythal looks eerily similar to Justice, so even with Anders out of the picture, there is, indeed]] one powerful revenge-seeking abomination on the loose. As for Zevran, some war-table mission involve him still killing members of the crows while still avoiding their wrath.


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** According to an early dialogue with Varric, Merrill is helping her fellow Dalish nomads, Fenris is indeed busy killing any Tevinter slaver he finds, leaving a convenient trail of corpses behind him should someone seek to contact him, and, as a conversation very late in game [[spoiler: between Morrigan and Flemeth shows, the Elven goddess Mythal looks eerily similar to Justice, so even with Anders out of the picture, there is, indeed]] indeed one powerful revenge-seeking abomination on the loose. As for Zevran, some war-table mission involve him still killing members of the crows while still avoiding their wrath.




* [[spoiler:Jossed - Corypheus was the culprit]]

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* [[spoiler:Jossed Jossed - Corypheus was the culprit]]
culprit.



* [[spoiler:Somewhat true - she does show up near the end and offers a crucial piece of advice on how to beat Corypheus]]

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* [[spoiler:Somewhat Somewhat true - she does show up near the end and offers a crucial piece of advice on how to beat Corypheus]]
Corypheus.



** Jossed, regrettably. However the War Table does feature several operations that take place working with the Dwarves of Kal-Sharok.

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** Jossed, regrettably. However However, the War Table does feature several operations that take place working with the Dwarves of Kal-Sharok.



** [[spoiler:Jossed - it's even worse: the Wardens are as formidable as ever, but Corypheus' fake calling made them so desperate that they end up becoming his pawns, forcing the Inquisitor (and [[PlayerPunch therefore the player]]) to turn the whole strength of the Inquisition against them..]]

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** [[spoiler:Jossed Jossed - it's even worse: the Wardens are as formidable as ever, but Corypheus' fake calling made them so desperate that they end up becoming his pawns, forcing the Inquisitor (and [[PlayerPunch therefore the player]]) to turn the whole strength of the Inquisition against them..]]
them..



* Aaaaaand Jossed. Darkspawn make an appearence, but they're enemies only[[spoiler:-not to mention the BigBad is a darkspawn himself.]]

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* Aaaaaand Jossed. Darkspawn make an appearence, appearance, but they're enemies only[[spoiler:-not only-not to mention the BigBad is a darkspawn himself.]]
himself.



** And let us not forget about the sappy romance series inspired by Aveline, whose fandom includes a ''very devoted'' [[spoiler: Cassandra Pentaghast]].

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** And let us not forget about the sappy romance series inspired by Aveline, whose fandom includes a ''very devoted'' [[spoiler: devoted'' Cassandra Pentaghast]].
Pentaghast.



*** Likely jossed. Leliana was suspicious about Morrigan's presence during the [[spoiler: Halamshiral Ball in "Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts"]]

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*** Likely jossed. Leliana was suspicious about Morrigan's presence during the [[spoiler: Halamshiral Ball in "Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts"]]Hearts".



[[WMG:The HiddenVillain is the same entity in ''TME'' that killed [[spoiler:Felassan]]]]
The two obviously know each other and [[spoiler:Felassan]] cryptically foreshadows the massive cataclysm to Imshael, so the villain probably had a good reason to kill him.
** It could actually be Fen'Harel, it's implied that he was comparing [[spoiler:Briala]] to him.
*** Given TheStinger, [[spoiler: Fen'Harel is [[AmbiguousSituation (or was)]] around, and is also an enigmatic elf who Knows Things. He's not quite a villain, but he is an UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom.]]
*** As of ''Trespasser'', confirmed.[[spoiler: Cole at one point says in his own cryptic way that Solas killed Felassan because Felassan was starting to sympathize with modern elves.]]

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[[WMG:The HiddenVillain is the same entity in ''TME'' that killed [[spoiler:Felassan]]]]
Felassan]]
The two obviously know each other and [[spoiler:Felassan]] Felassan cryptically foreshadows the massive cataclysm to Imshael, so the villain probably had a good reason to kill him.
** It could actually be Fen'Harel, it's implied that he was comparing [[spoiler:Briala]] Briala to him.
*** Given TheStinger, [[spoiler: Fen'Harel is [[AmbiguousSituation (or was)]] around, and is also an enigmatic elf who Knows Things. He's not quite a villain, but he is an UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom.]]
UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom.
*** As of ''Trespasser'', confirmed.[[spoiler: Cole at one point says in his own cryptic way that Solas killed Felassan because Felassan was starting to sympathize with modern elves.]]
elves.



*** [[spoiler:Confirmed]].

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*** [[spoiler:Confirmed]].Confirmed.



* Jossed to hell and back again. Iron Bull gets along with ''everyone'' (with the slight exception of Varric due to Varric's general aversion to Qunari). [[spoiler:And if neither of them are romanced by the player character, Iron Bull and Dorian end up together.]]

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* Jossed to hell and back again. Iron Bull gets along with ''everyone'' (with the slight exception of Varric due to Varric's general aversion to Qunari). [[spoiler:And And if neither of them are romanced by the player character, Iron Bull and Dorian end up together.]]
together.



If you are a male human and support Celene for empress of Orlais you can marry her, Alternatively if you are female and support Gaspard you can marry him at the end.

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If you are a male human and support Celene for empress of Orlais you can marry her, Alternatively her. Alternatively, if you are female and support Gaspard you can marry him at the end.



* [[spoiler:Jossed. Your companion/adviser romances are the only ones which go anywhere (and some of those may not last, either).]]

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* [[spoiler:Jossed. Jossed. Your companion/adviser romances are the only ones which go anywhere (and some of those may not last, either).]]
either).



Whether they're a Fade spirit or a god-child or a Time Lord, whatever. Doesn't matter. They've already been put into a Last Supper shot in the Inquisition trailer, and Bioware's also done the [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/MassEffect3 trilogy of games with a Jesus allegory as the main character and Shepard likely didn't survive that.]]]] Maybe this won't be a certainty because the multiple endings are supposed to be ''very'' multiple this time around, but trust me, at least one will have the Inquisitor on the chopping block.

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Whether they're a Fade spirit or a god-child or a Time Lord, whatever. Doesn't matter. They've already been put into a Last Supper shot in the Inquisition trailer, and Bioware's also done the [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/MassEffect3 trilogy of games with a Jesus allegory as the main character and Shepard likely didn't survive that.]]]] ]] Maybe this won't be a certainty because the multiple endings are supposed to be ''very'' multiple this time around, but trust me, at least one will have the Inquisitor on the chopping block.



* [[spoiler:Definitely Jossed for the main game; all possible endings leave the Inquisitor alive. Doesn't mean anything about future DLC, though...]]

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* [[spoiler:Definitely Definitely Jossed for the main game; all possible endings leave the Inquisitor alive. Doesn't mean anything about future DLC, though...]]
though...



He's a Grey Warden of a certain age. The Calling could be around any time. [[spoiler:Jossed, since he's not really a Grey Warden.]]

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He's a Grey Warden of a certain age. The Calling could be around any time. [[spoiler:Jossed, time.
* Jossed,
since he's not really a Grey Warden.]]
Warden.



Blackwall was stationed in Val Chevin, which is on Gaspard's lands. Gaspard is especially respected by warriors. Perhaps, if rather than stopping the assassination attempt at the Winter Palace, you facilitate it instead, you will alienate Blackwall. [[spoiler: Jossed. Blackwall was formerly an Orlesian army captain, disgraced for carrying out a massacre ordered on Gaspard's behalf. He deserted when Gaspard disavowed the order and his immediate superior poisoned himself rather than be captured. If the Inquisitor chooses to permit Celene's assassination and his approval is not high enough, Blackwall will leave the party in protest.]]

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Blackwall was stationed in Val Chevin, which is on Gaspard's lands. Gaspard is especially respected by warriors. Perhaps, if rather than stopping the assassination attempt at the Winter Palace, you facilitate it instead, you will alienate Blackwall. [[spoiler:
*
Jossed. Blackwall was formerly an Orlesian army captain, disgraced for carrying out a massacre ordered on Gaspard's behalf. He deserted when Gaspard disavowed the order and his immediate superior poisoned himself rather than be captured. If the Inquisitor chooses to permit Celene's assassination and his approval is not high enough, Blackwall will leave the party in protest.]]
protest.



[[WMG: The Elder One is actually a [[Franhise/MassEffect Reaper]].]]

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[[WMG: The Elder One is actually a [[Franhise/MassEffect Reaper]].]][[VideoGame/MassEffect Reaper]]]].



*** [[spoiler: Or maybe it's Corypheus and his Archdemon?]]

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*** [[spoiler: Or maybe it's Corypheus and his Archdemon?]]Archdemon?



[[spoiler:Your statement is Jossed. Griffons are back, son!]]

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[[spoiler:Your Your statement is Jossed. Griffons are back, son!]]
son!



He more or less poisons the Fade permanently, causing all the benign spirits to die off or become corrupted in that ending, after all. Eventually, however, the strain on [[spoiler:Corypheus']] mind grows too great from fending off unruly demons all the time, and his mind fractures into four split personalities, each embodying a different aspect of the four major strains of demon he's familiar with as they affect him; the Dark Gods (plus Malal, embodying what's left of his sanity and self-loathing). Eventually, the Qunari's descendants can't take the hellish environments of Thedas anymore, and begin constructing gates to new worlds as the Old Ones (bringing along what survivors of the merge they can), but of course the Dark Gods follow, curious about where they're going. Cue the CrapsackWorld, sooner or later.

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Flemeth possessed Solas/Fen'Harel]]]]
[[spoiler: After DAO and her appearence in DAII, you really think she's dead?]]
* [[spoiler: {{Jossed}} - The designers have mentioned Flemeth intentionally sacrificed herself to Fen'harel.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Solas/Fen'Harel took the soul of Flemeth/Mythal]]]]
[[spoiler: And with the above so constitutes the prominent discourse upon this game's plot until we get some epilogue DLC.]]
* [[spoiler: Confirmed. Flemeth/Mythal was okay with it too.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Flemeth is trying to become the ultimate god]]]]
[[spoiler: Near the ending, Flemeth is revealed to host Mythal, and elven godess, within her. If the Old God Baby exists, she takes the soul of the Old God into her own. In TheStinger, she appears to take over the body of Solas/Fen'Harel, or vice versa. With three gods/goddesses in one body, would it be any surprise if she's after more?]]
* [[spoiler: Adding to that, maybe she's just trying to return to her original form. The "throne of god on the Black City is empty" if Corypheus is to be believed, so maybe a single god did exist at one point, and the Old Gods of Tevinter and Elven gods were born from this single entity's power being split.]]

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He more or less poisons the Fade permanently, causing all the benign spirits to die off or become corrupted in that ending, after all. Eventually, however, the strain on [[spoiler:Corypheus']] Corypheus' mind grows too great from fending off unruly demons all the time, and his mind fractures into four split personalities, each embodying a different aspect of the four major strains of demon he's familiar with as they affect him; the Dark Gods (plus Malal, embodying what's left of his sanity and self-loathing). Eventually, the Qunari's descendants can't take the hellish environments of Thedas anymore, and begin constructing gates to new worlds as the Old Ones (bringing along what survivors of the merge they can), but of course the Dark Gods follow, curious about where they're going. Cue the CrapsackWorld, sooner or later.

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Flemeth possessed Solas/Fen'Harel]]]]
[[spoiler:
Solas/Fen'Harel]]
After DAO ''DAO'' and her appearence appearance in DAII, ''DAII'', you really think she's dead?]]
dead?
* [[spoiler: {{Jossed}} - The designers have mentioned Flemeth intentionally sacrificed herself to Fen'harel.]]

Fen'harel.

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Solas/Fen'Harel took the soul of Flemeth/Mythal]]]]
[[spoiler:
Flemeth/Mythal]]
And with the above so constitutes the prominent discourse upon this game's plot until we get some epilogue DLC.]]
DLC.
* [[spoiler: Confirmed. Flemeth/Mythal was okay with it too.]]

too.

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Flemeth is trying to become the ultimate god]]]]
[[spoiler:
god]]
Near the ending, Flemeth is revealed to host Mythal, and elven godess, within her. If the Old God Baby exists, she takes the soul of the Old God into her own. In TheStinger, she appears to take over the body of Solas/Fen'Harel, or vice versa. With three gods/goddesses in one body, would it be any surprise if she's after more?]]
more?
* [[spoiler: Adding to that, maybe she's just trying to return to her original form. The "throne of god on the Black City is empty" if Corypheus is to be believed, so maybe a single god did exist at one point, and the Old Gods of Tevinter and Elven gods were born from this single entity's power being split.]]
split.



But merely the oldest of the immortal Elven nobility who developed a god complex. If this is true, it would go a long way to explaining Solas' disdain for them. [[spoiler:Particularly since he ''was'' one of them and knows all too well that they were never true gods.]]
** [[spoiler: That seems plausible. Doesn't Solas himself support this view?]]
*** [[spoiler: One might note that, as Professor Kenric points out, we don't have a specific definition of "god" in this setting. Hakkon Wintersbreath is "just" a powerful spirit but he fits the Avvar definition of a god. Solas, despite being one of the pantheon, may not have the final word on the matter.]]
** [[spoiler:As of ''Trespasser'', confirmed. By Solas, no less.]]

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But merely the oldest of the immortal Elven nobility who developed a god complex. If this is true, it would go a long way to explaining Solas' disdain for them. [[spoiler:Particularly Particularly since he ''was'' one of them and knows all too well that they were never true gods.]]
gods.
** [[spoiler: That seems plausible. Doesn't Solas himself support this view?]]
view?
*** [[spoiler: One might note that, as Professor Kenric points out, we don't have a specific definition of "god" in this setting. Hakkon Wintersbreath is "just" a powerful spirit but he fits the Avvar definition of a god. Solas, despite being one of the pantheon, may not have the final word on the matter.]]
matter.
** [[spoiler:As As of ''Trespasser'', confirmed. By Solas, no less.]]
less.



This neatly explains why the supposed BigBad of the Elven Pantheon [[spoiler:as Solas is one of the more unambiguously good characters in the game. Even when TheStinger reveals that he's responsible for Corypheus' rise to power, he only did it to help the Elves and admits that he still deserves to pay for his crimes nonetheless. Given his disdain for the rest of the pantheon, it's likely that the reason he was branded a villain was because he was the only one willing to call the others out on their bullcrap.]]

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This neatly explains why the supposed BigBad of the Elven Pantheon [[spoiler:as as Solas is one of the more unambiguously good characters in the game. Even when TheStinger reveals that he's responsible for Corypheus' rise to power, he only did it to help the Elves and admits that he still deserves to pay for his crimes nonetheless. Given his disdain for the rest of the pantheon, it's likely that the reason he was branded a villain was because he was the only one willing to call the others out on their bullcrap.]]



Since it's alive, that explains how [[spoiler:it can be tainted by the Blight to create Red Lyrium.]]
* [[spoiler: {{Jossed}}. ''The Descent'' reveals that Lyrium is the blood of the Titans.]]

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Since it's alive, that explains how [[spoiler:it it can be tainted by the Blight to create Red Lyrium.]]
Lyrium.
* [[spoiler: {{Jossed}}. ''The Descent'' reveals that Lyrium is the blood of the Titans.]]
Titans.



In every new Dragon Age campaign we have one party member that was a companion of a hero of previous game - in Awakening we had Oghren. In VideoGame/DragonAgeII - Anders, and in Inquisition Varric. We can say with some confidence that we will get someone familiar also in a next game - romanceable characters are out for obvious reasons, Varric was already in 2 games, Vivienne can potentially [[spoiler:become Divine]], so she will probably be too busy, so that leaves us Cole.
* Related: Cole will be a potential romantic interest, but only if you [[spoiler:sided with Varric to make him more human]]. He'll go through several rounds of WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove and general confusion. Then, because this is Creator/BioWare, something tragic will happen.
** Jossed. [[spoiler:In the DLC ''Trespasser'', assuming Cole is your friend and you did his personal quest, Cole will either return to the Fade, if he is Spirit; Or he will be in a romantic relationship with Maryden Halewell, if he is made Human.]]

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In every new Dragon Age campaign we have one party member that was a companion of a hero of the previous game - in Awakening ''Awakening'' we had Oghren. In VideoGame/DragonAgeII ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' - Anders, and in Inquisition ''Inquisition'' Varric. We can say with some confidence that we will get someone familiar also in a next game - romanceable characters are out for obvious reasons, Varric was already in 2 games, Vivienne can potentially [[spoiler:become Divine]], become Divine, so she will probably be too busy, so that leaves us Cole.
* Related: Cole will be a potential romantic interest, but only if you [[spoiler:sided sided with Varric to make him more human]].human. He'll go through several rounds of WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove and general confusion. Then, because this is Creator/BioWare, something tragic will happen.
** Jossed. [[spoiler:In In the DLC ''Trespasser'', assuming Cole is your friend and you did his personal quest, Cole will either return to the Fade, if he is Spirit; Or he will be in a romantic relationship with Maryden Halewell, if he is made Human.]]
Human.



The comics imply that dragons are needed to preserve the world. Solas hates the Grey Wardens because of their willingness to kill the Old Gods. He never elaborates on this, but [[spoiler:since he's actually Fen'harel, he probably knows something about the Old Gods that the Wardens don't. Maybe Flemeth wanted Urthemiel's soul to prevent whatever catastrophe killing all of the Old Gods will cause.]]

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The comics imply that dragons are needed to preserve the world. Solas hates the Grey Wardens because of their willingness to kill the Old Gods. He never elaborates on this, but [[spoiler:since since he's actually Fen'harel, he probably knows something about the Old Gods that the Wardens don't. Maybe Flemeth wanted Urthemiel's soul to prevent whatever catastrophe killing all of the Old Gods will cause.]]
cause.



After playing VideoGame/DragonAgeII and noticing Justice!Anders's blue sparkly glowy powers [[spoiler: and the color of Solas/Flemeth's eyes when invoking their Mythal-given powers]] spirits might actually be somehow related to the Old Gods as well as the elven pantheon, rather than just the Maker as the Chant dictates.[[spoiler: Especially since Mythal seems to be a goddess of justice and protection turned to vengeful force. Sort of like Justice him/itself.]]


[[WMG:The ancient Elves built a magical empire, were immortal, and [[spoiler: were always slaves, that is until they rebelled and killed their gods]].]]
Spoilers for things revealed towards the end of the game: A romanced Solas will reveal that [[spoiler: the face tattoos the Dalish have are actual slave markings, and we do in fact see elves magically enslaved to Mythal in her temple. There's some suggestion that these Elves are immortal, but that doesn't line up with the lore. We also find out that Mythal was betrayed and murdered, and some part of her goes to Flemeth to seek vengeance. Why go to some human woman? Because originally the ancient Elves were enslaved by their gods, and that's what grants them their immortality. The elves rebelled, and killed their gods, which is why Flemeth doesn't help them, and how they lost their immortality.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Solas is trying to grant ultimate freedom from slavery by doing the equivalent of crashing the game.]]]]
[[spoiler: Solas]] (and by extension all elven gods) are self-aware meta gods. Much like Lorkhan and Vivec from ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' franchise, the elven/old gods of Thedas have powers similar to CHIM - the ability to input the equivalent of console commands. In the past two games, its implied that Flemeth can not only tell the future, but also understands how minute actions can affect the 'grande scheme of things'. This power probably extends to [[spoiler: Solas, aka The Dread Wolf.]]

[[spoiler: Solas]] describes other people as 'predictable' multiple times throughout the game. If romanced, he'll describe the Inquisitor as having a 'rare and marvelous spirit', which might mean that he's surprised at how captivating and wholesome the Inquisitor is, compared to how unsatisfying and repetitive he finds everyone else to be. After [[spoiler: Solas]] breaks up with the Inquisitor, Cole will read [[spoiler: Solas's]] feelings to be [[spoiler: "You're real, and it means everyone could be real. It changes everything. But it can't."]]

This might mean that by spending time with the Inquisition, giving approval upon making benevolent in-game choices, and falling in love with the Inquisitor, [[spoiler: Solas developed empathy for people that shouldn't matter 'in the grand scheme of things'.]] Feeling empathy for mortals makes it harder to complete his goal of [[spoiler: freeing everyone from slavery by doing the equivalent of [[VideoGame/TheStanleyParable crashing the game.]]]] This is why [[spoiler: Solas/The Dread Wolf is considered an enemy to the other elven gods; The Dread Wolf]] wants to grant ultimate free will by freeing people from the control of the other elven gods, which can't be done when all life choices are pre-determined by dialogue wheels.

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After playing VideoGame/DragonAgeII ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' and noticing Justice!Anders's Anders/Jusice's blue sparkly glowy powers [[spoiler: and the color of Solas/Flemeth's eyes when invoking their Mythal-given powers]] powers spirits might actually be somehow related to the Old Gods as well as the elven pantheon, rather than just the Maker as the Chant dictates.[[spoiler: dictates. Especially since Mythal seems to be a goddess of justice and protection turned to vengeful force. Sort of like Justice him/itself.]]


him/itself.


[[WMG:The ancient Elves built a magical empire, were immortal, and [[spoiler: were always slaves, that is until they rebelled and killed their gods]].gods.]]
Spoilers for things revealed towards the end of the game: A romanced Solas will reveal that [[spoiler: the face tattoos the Dalish have are actual slave markings, and we do in fact see elves magically enslaved to Mythal in her temple. There's some suggestion that these Elves are immortal, but that doesn't line up with the lore. We also find out that Mythal was betrayed and murdered, and some part of her goes to Flemeth to seek vengeance. Why go to some human woman? Because originally the ancient Elves were enslaved by their gods, and that's what grants them their immortality. The elves rebelled, and killed their gods, which is why Flemeth doesn't help them, and how they lost their immortality.]]

immortality.

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Solas is trying to grant ultimate freedom from slavery by doing the equivalent of crashing the game.]]]]
[[spoiler: Solas]]
]]
Solas
(and by extension all elven gods) are self-aware meta gods. Much like Lorkhan and Vivec from ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' franchise, the elven/old gods of Thedas have powers similar to CHIM - the ability to input the equivalent of console commands. In the past two games, its it's implied that Flemeth can not only tell the future, but also understands how minute actions can affect the 'grande scheme of things'. This power probably extends to [[spoiler: Solas, aka The Dread Wolf.]]

[[spoiler: Solas]]
Wolf.

Solas
describes other people as 'predictable' multiple times throughout the game. If romanced, he'll describe the Inquisitor as having a 'rare and marvelous spirit', which might mean that he's surprised at how captivating and wholesome the Inquisitor is, compared to how unsatisfying and repetitive he finds everyone else to be. After [[spoiler: Solas]] Solas breaks up with the Inquisitor, Cole will read [[spoiler: Solas's]] Solas's feelings to be [[spoiler: "You're real, and it means everyone could be real. It changes everything. But it can't."]]

"

This might mean that by spending time with the Inquisition, giving approval upon making benevolent in-game choices, and falling in love with the Inquisitor, [[spoiler: Solas developed empathy for people that shouldn't matter 'in the grand scheme of things'.]] things. Feeling empathy for mortals makes it harder to complete his goal of [[spoiler: freeing everyone from slavery by doing the equivalent of [[VideoGame/TheStanleyParable crashing the game.]]]] ]] This is why [[spoiler: Solas/The Dread Wolf is considered an enemy to the other elven gods; The Dread Wolf]] Wolf wants to grant ultimate free will by freeing people from the control of the other elven gods, which can't be done when all life choices are pre-determined by dialogue wheels.



1 - If alive, the Warden represents a known quantity and investment, something she doesn't want to risk quite yet, which makes sense considering what can happen to [[spoiler: Hawke]].

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1 - If alive, the Warden represents a known quantity and investment, something she doesn't want to risk quite yet, which makes sense considering what can happen to [[spoiler: Hawke]].Hawke.



3 - [[spoiler: A Warden who romanced Morrigan probably defeated her in combat once already and whether she threw the fight or not, she likely doesn't want the aggravation of a pissed-off dad protecting his wife and child.]]
* Alternatively: [[spoiler: She knows that killing the Old Gods is a solution that will eventually destroy the world, and the solution to the Grey Wardens Calling problem will lead to saving the Old Gods from the Blights as well.]]

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3 - [[spoiler: A Warden who romanced Morrigan probably defeated her in combat once already and whether she threw the fight or not, she likely doesn't want the aggravation of a pissed-off dad protecting his wife and child.]]
child.
* Alternatively: [[spoiler: She knows that killing the Old Gods is a solution that will eventually destroy the world, and the solution to the Grey Wardens Calling problem will lead to saving the Old Gods from the Blights as well.]]
well.



[[WMG: Solas is not really [[spoiler:a god]]]]
Post-endgame spoilers. [[spoiler:I'm not saying Solas isn't Fen'Harel, just that he isn't a god. Solas is really an elf, albeit an incredibly powerful mage elf who has somehow found a way to avoid Quickening. Fen'Harel was originally a title of some kind, like a general or adviser to the gods (well, 'gods'). He decided that the world was suffering under the gods' rule, so they must be done away with; he started by tracking down the Old Gods and imprisoning them in the Deep Roads. He still had respect for the elven 'gods,' though, and was trying to find a way to get rid of him non-lethally when his followers decided that they'd had enough and wouldn't take it any more. They rose up, killed the gods, and started a civil war that ended up destroying the elven empire. Since they were his followers, Fen'Solas was blamed, and eventually became the evil demon trickster he is currently represented as. Fen'Solas, distraught over what he had caused, went to a secret location and went into uthenera for a really, really long time. It would explain why he only talks about his experiences in the Fade and why he's relatively up-to-date on current events. Why he woke up, I'm not too sure about yet. Maybe he finally realized his guilt was getting the world nowhere and he needed to deal with it, or maybe it was while he was sleeping that he met Corypheus and gave him the sphere, later realizing what he'd done and waking up to put things to rights.]]
** [[spoiler:Considering that the codex informs us that Harellan originally meant "rebellion", Fen'Harel probably most accurately translates to "Rebel Wolf", which hardly seems like a title for an advisor to the gods.]]
** [[spoiler:Then maybe Fen'Harel was the name they gave him after the uprising, and his original title was something else wolf-related. TO be honest, the original thrust of the theory was that Solas is really an elf and not any sort of god, and then I got a bit carried away. XD]]
** [[spoiler: "I was "Solas" first. "Fen'Harel" came later, an insult I took as a badge of pride."]]

[[WMG: Divine Justinia was [[spoiler:DeadAllAlong]]]]
Spoilers for the Fade sequence. [[spoiler:So everyone makes a big deal about how Corypheus could have survived the titanic explosion that wrecked the Temple of Sacred Ashes, but no one seems to question how the Inquisitor-to-be and the Divine survived after they find out what really happened. The Inquisitor is easy enough to explain; since they were the ones holding the orb, they merely got thrown through the Breach instead of being blown up. But what about the Divine? If Corypheus was killed, even though he was standing right next to the Inquisitor, how could the Divine, who was further away, have survived the blast? Answer: she didn't. Remember that at the start of the game, the Inquisitor saw the weird glowing figure that Schrodinger's Divine eventually turns into. My theory is that the Divine was killed in the blast, and it was her soul/the spirit imitating her that guided them out of the Fade.]]

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[[WMG: Solas is not really [[spoiler:a god]]]]
Post-endgame spoilers. [[spoiler:I'm
a god]]
I'm
not saying Solas isn't Fen'Harel, just that he isn't a god. Solas is really an elf, albeit an incredibly powerful mage elf who has somehow found a way to avoid Quickening. Fen'Harel was originally a title of some kind, like a general or adviser to the gods (well, 'gods'). He decided that the world was suffering under the gods' rule, so they must be done away with; he started by tracking down the Old Gods and imprisoning them in the Deep Roads. He still had respect for the elven 'gods,' though, and was trying to find a way to get rid of him non-lethally when his followers decided that they'd had enough and wouldn't take it any more.anymore. They rose up, killed the gods, and started a civil war that ended up destroying the elven empire. Since they were his followers, Fen'Solas was blamed, and eventually became the evil demon trickster he is currently represented as. Fen'Solas, distraught over what he had caused, went to a secret location and went into uthenera for a really, really long time. It would explain why he only talks about his experiences in the Fade and why he's relatively up-to-date on current events. Why he woke up, I'm not too sure about yet. Maybe he finally realized his guilt was getting the world nowhere and he needed to deal with it, or maybe it was while he was sleeping that he met Corypheus and gave him the sphere, later realizing what he'd done and waking up to put things to rights.]]
rights.
** [[spoiler:Considering Considering that the codex informs us that Harellan originally meant "rebellion", Fen'Harel probably most accurately translates to "Rebel Wolf", which hardly seems like a title for an advisor to the gods.]]
gods.
** [[spoiler:Then Then maybe Fen'Harel was the name they gave him after the uprising, and his original title was something else wolf-related. TO To be honest, the original thrust of the theory was that Solas is really an elf and not any sort of god, and then I got a bit carried away. XD]]
XD
** [[spoiler: "I was "Solas" first. "Fen'Harel" came later, an insult I took as a badge of pride."]]

"

[[WMG: Divine Justinia was [[spoiler:DeadAllAlong]]]]
Spoilers for the Fade sequence. [[spoiler:So
DeadAllAlong]]
So
everyone makes a big deal about how Corypheus could have survived the titanic explosion that wrecked the Temple of Sacred Ashes, but no one seems to question how the Inquisitor-to-be and the Divine survived after they find out what really happened. The Inquisitor is easy enough to explain; since they were the ones holding the orb, they merely got thrown through the Breach instead of being blown up. But what about the Divine? If Corypheus was killed, even though he was standing right next to the Inquisitor, how could the Divine, who was further away, have survived the blast? Answer: she didn't. Remember that at the start of the game, the Inquisitor saw the weird glowing figure that Schrodinger's Divine eventually turns into. My theory is that the Divine was killed in the blast, and it was her soul/the spirit imitating her that guided them out of the Fade.]]
Fade.



** Alternatively, we'll have a separate dwarf character carry over from each installment. Oghren carried over from DAO to DAA, Bodahn and Sandal carried over from DAO to [=DA2=], and Varric carried over from [=DA2=] to DAI. Perhaps Harding will carry over from DAI to [=DA4=]. In any event, Varric expresses interest in returning to Kirkwall to help rebuild after the Inquisition is done with it's work, and the next game is likely going to be set a considerable distance north. So unless Varric's visiting Maevaris or checking on that beat plantation he half-owns, I don't see him making the trip.

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** Alternatively, we'll have a separate dwarf character carry over from each installment. Oghren carried over from DAO to DAA, Bodahn and Sandal carried over from DAO to [=DA2=], and Varric carried over from [=DA2=] to DAI. Perhaps Harding will carry over from DAI to [=DA4=]. In any event, Varric expresses interest in returning to Kirkwall to help rebuild after the Inquisition is done with it's its work, and the next game is likely going to be set a considerable distance north. So unless Varric's visiting Maevaris or checking on that beat plantation he half-owns, I don't see him making the trip.



[[WMG:The Elder One's BodySurf works because [[spoiler:he was originally human.]]]]
Spirits/demons need consent to possess people, and Archdemons can only BodySurf into soulless vessels like the Darkspawn. Even Flemeth [[spoiler:aka Mythal, a goddess]] claims that she cannot possess someone without permission. [[spoiler:Corypheus]] doesn't have these issues [[spoiler:because he was originally a mortal human. The fundamental differences between mortal souls and the souls of spirits/demons/gods may be what causes the difficulties of possession and Body Surfing. Corypheus is still human enough that he doesn't have this problem.]] Either that, or...

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[[WMG:The Elder One's BodySurf works because [[spoiler:he he was originally human.]]]]
]]
Spirits/demons need consent to possess people, and Archdemons can only BodySurf into soulless vessels like the Darkspawn. Even Flemeth [[spoiler:aka aka Mythal, a goddess]] goddess claims that she cannot possess someone without permission. [[spoiler:Corypheus]] Corypheus doesn't have these issues [[spoiler:because because he was originally a mortal human. The fundamental differences between mortal souls and the souls of spirits/demons/gods may be what causes the difficulties of possession and Body Surfing. Corypheus is still human enough that he doesn't have this problem.]] Either that, or...



[[WMG: [[spoiler:Kieran]] is going to be playable in the future.]]
Really going out on a limb here, but not only is he going to be playable [[spoiler: he's going to be the protagonist. At least, one the choosable ones. You'll be able to choose other protagonists (Elf, Qunari, etc.) but he will end up being the human protagonist for a future game. His pre-set history will include the ritual being performed, and though with who will be optional, a lot of other things won't be. Oh, and as a bonus, he either has to fight the Inquisitor, or his mother. Whee.]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler:Kieran]] Kieran is going to be playable in the future.]]
Really going out on a limb here, but not only is he going to be playable [[spoiler: he's going to be the protagonist. At least, one the choosable ones. You'll be able to choose other protagonists (Elf, Qunari, etc.) but he will end up being the human protagonist for a future game. His pre-set history will include the ritual being performed, and though with who will be optional, a lot of other things won't be. Oh, and as a bonus, he either has to fight the Inquisitor, or his mother. Whee.]]



** Other possibility: they do things like in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the Holy War]]'': make [[spoiler: Kieran an important Teammate]] but also introduce [[spoiler: a replacement character to take his role if he was not conceived: if Kieran exists, this character is a NPC and perhaps the HeroOfAnotherStory, otherwise, he joins the party as one of the mages]]

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** Other possibility: they do things like in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the Holy War]]'': make [[spoiler: Kieran an important Teammate]] Teammate but also introduce [[spoiler: a replacement character to take his role if he was not conceived: if Kieran exists, this character is a NPC and perhaps the HeroOfAnotherStory, otherwise, he joins the party as one of the mages]]mages



[[spoiler:Arlathan in its final days was an evil empire that practiced slavery, wielded powerful magic, and eventually destroyed itself in a civil war]]. It's possible that humans merely picked up the pieces of Arlathan, including its magic and its slaves, and formed the Tevinter Imperium from that. Solas even claims that much of Tevinter was built upon the bones of the People. As for why Tevinter is so awful, they could just be emulating [[spoiler:Arlathan]].

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[[spoiler:Arlathan Arlathan in its final days was an evil empire that practiced slavery, wielded powerful magic, and eventually destroyed itself in a civil war]].war. It's possible that humans merely picked up the pieces of Arlathan, including its magic and its slaves, and formed the Tevinter Imperium from that. Solas even claims that much of Tevinter was built upon the bones of the People. As for why Tevinter is so awful, they could just be emulating [[spoiler:Arlathan]].
Arlathan.



* This theory puts Solas' fondness for spirits in an new light. [[spoiler:Of course he'd be sympathetic to them, he's been fused with one for millennia.]]
** It might also explains many things regarding [[spoiler: Solas' interactions with Cole:\\

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* This theory puts Solas' fondness for spirits in an new light. [[spoiler:Of Of course he'd be sympathetic to them, he's been fused with one for millennia.]]
millennia.
** It might also explains many things regarding [[spoiler: Solas' interactions with Cole:\\



During one banter with Cole, Solas says "I am not a spirit, and sometimes it is hard to remember such simple truths.": having more in common with Spirits than virtually everyone else, he sometimes forget that he's still a creature of the material world with at least as much in common with its denizens than with Spirits.\\
Another Banter, if Cole becomes more Human, asking Solas when was the last time he saw a spirit becoming Human: Cole was actually sensing Solas' memories of the time his elven self was merged with a spirit, and Solas answer: "You have taken a difficult path": he knows, because he '''walked this path himself''']].
* Another possibility is that the Elven Pantheon were all originally Spirits who took on physical form without a host, not unlike Cole. Which means they had even less in common with their constituents than if they were abominations, and this led to the eventual fall of the Elven empire. Judging by his attitude in this game, [[spoiler:Fen'Harel or Solas]] may have originally been a Spirit of Freedom.

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During one banter with Cole, Solas says "I am not a spirit, and sometimes it is hard to remember such simple truths.": having more in common with Spirits than virtually everyone else, he sometimes forget forgets that he's still a creature of the material world with at least as much in common with its denizens than with Spirits.\\
Another Banter, if Cole becomes more Human, asking Solas when was the last time he saw a spirit becoming Human: Cole was actually sensing Solas' memories of the time his elven self was merged with a spirit, and Solas answer: "You have taken a difficult path": he knows, because he '''walked this path himself''']].
himself'''.
* Another possibility is that the Elven Pantheon were all originally Spirits who took on physical form without a host, not unlike Cole. Which means they had even less in common with their constituents than if they were abominations, and this led to the eventual fall of the Elven empire. Judging by his attitude in this game, [[spoiler:Fen'Harel Fen'Harel or Solas]] Solas may have originally been a Spirit of Freedom.



[[spoiler: During Iron Bull's loyalty quest, he has to choose between saving the Chargers or a Qunari dreadnought, and the situation is set up so you can't save both. If the Dreadnought is sacrificed, the Ben-Hassrath will declare Iron Bull Tal-Vashoth, one of his biggest fears, but if the Chargers die Iron Bull is devastated and, according to Cole, never stops thinking about it. This was intentional on the part of the Ben-Hassrath, who were trying to see if he was more loyal to the Inquisition or the Qun. They deliberately fed the Inquisition misleading information on Venatori forces so Iron Bull would put the Chargers into a fight they couldn't win. If the Chargers died, they knew Iron Bull was loyal while removing any loyalty he felt to the Inquisitor (who had to make the call) and Thedas, which would allow them to exploit his connections to spread throughout Thedas with the Inquisition's blessing, spreading the Qun and preparing for a future invasion. If the Chargers survived and the dreadnought was destroyed, they knew Iron Bull had more loyalty to his men and the Inquisitor than to the Ben-Hassrath and they had the perfect excuse to cut loose their wayward operative once and for all.]]
* [[spoiler: With this in mind, the situation goes from being a [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption no-win situation]] to having an obvious right answer - Save the Chargers. The Qunari aren't going to stop fighting Tevinter just because of this, since they've already been at it for centuries, so the Inquisition doesn't lose anything on that front. The Qunari have also been mentioned repeatedly to not really understand alliances beyond mutual convenience, so getting backstabbed by them is all but inevitable. Saving the Chargers is also what Iron Bull really wants, since you gain higher approval by doing that. From the Inquisition's standpoint, they gain a powerful mercenary company that is now totally loyal to them while also checking Qunari intelligence operations in Thedas ''and'' depriving them of a valuable and highly-placed operative while losing only an alliance that wouldn't have stuck anyway. This takes the quest from a DownerEnding no matter what into a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome for your MagnificentBastard Inquisitor.]]

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[[spoiler: During Iron Bull's loyalty quest, he has to choose between saving the Chargers or a Qunari dreadnought, and the situation is set up so you can't save both. If the Dreadnought is sacrificed, the Ben-Hassrath will declare Iron Bull Tal-Vashoth, one of his biggest fears, but if the Chargers die Iron Bull is devastated and, according to Cole, never stops thinking about it. This was intentional on the part of the Ben-Hassrath, who were trying to see if he was more loyal to the Inquisition or the Qun. They deliberately fed the Inquisition misleading information on Venatori forces so Iron Bull would put the Chargers into a fight they couldn't win. If the Chargers died, they knew Iron Bull was loyal while removing any loyalty he felt to the Inquisitor (who had to make the call) and Thedas, which would allow them to exploit his connections to spread throughout Thedas with the Inquisition's blessing, spreading the Qun and preparing for a future invasion. If the Chargers survived and the dreadnought was destroyed, they knew Iron Bull had more loyalty to his men and the Inquisitor than to the Ben-Hassrath and they had the perfect excuse to cut loose their wayward operative once and for all.]]
all.
* [[spoiler: With this in mind, the situation goes from being a [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption no-win situation]] to having an obvious right answer - Save the Chargers. The Qunari aren't going to stop fighting Tevinter just because of this, since they've already been at it for centuries, so the Inquisition doesn't lose anything on that front. The Qunari have also been mentioned repeatedly to not really understand alliances beyond mutual convenience, so getting backstabbed by them is all but inevitable. Saving the Chargers is also what Iron Bull really wants, since you gain higher approval by doing that. From the Inquisition's standpoint, they gain a powerful mercenary company that is now totally loyal to them while also checking Qunari intelligence operations in Thedas ''and'' depriving them of a valuable and highly-placed operative while losing only an alliance that wouldn't have stuck anyway. This takes the quest from a DownerEnding no matter what into a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome for your MagnificentBastard Inquisitor.]]



** Sacrificing an entire dreadnought just t otest the loyalty of a single person seems a bit over-the-top. Sure, Bull has some connections, but not that much, plus he'd be under the constant oversight of Leliana.
** Bull chose which group assaulted which camp, meaning the entire thing could leasily have been rendered pointless.

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** Sacrificing an entire dreadnought just t otest to test the loyalty of a single person seems a bit over-the-top. Sure, Bull has some connections, but not that much, plus he'd be under the constant oversight of Leliana.
** Bull chose which group assaulted which camp, meaning the entire thing could leasily easily have been rendered pointless.



[[WMG:[[spoiler:Flemythal isn't dead yet]]]]
[[spoiler:So the devs confirmed that Fen'Solas absorbed Flemythal's soul and power. That doesn't have to mean that she's dead. DAII proved that she's capable of having multiple bodies running at once; who's to say she isn't still out there?]]

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[[WMG:[[spoiler:Flemythal [[WMG: Flemythal isn't dead yet]]]]
[[spoiler:So
yet]]
So
the devs confirmed that Fen'Solas absorbed Flemythal's soul and power. That doesn't have to mean that she's dead. DAII proved that she's capable of having multiple bodies running at once; who's to say she isn't still out there?]]
there?



Cassandra's idea that the Old Gods were mere pets just like [[spoiler:Corypheus' dragon]] was right on the money. Solas denies it, but considering [[spoiler:he's actually one of the Elven gods and trying to hide it]], of course he'd try to discourage that line of thought. It also explains why he hates the Grey Wardens for killing them when they become Archdemons [[spoiler:they are yet another piece of his culture that is being eradicated.]] The Old Gods were extremely powerful sentient dragon-like creations of the Elven gods, left behind in the wake of Arlathan's destruction and the loss of their masters. The humans who would eventually found the Tevinter Imperium adopted these mighty beings as their own gods. This ties in nicely with Tevinter's portrayal in this game as mere scavengers of Arlathan's culture: magic, slavery, even their gods.

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Cassandra's idea that the Old Gods were mere pets just like [[spoiler:Corypheus' dragon]] Corypheus' dragon was right on the money. Solas denies it, but considering [[spoiler:he's he's actually one of the Elven gods and trying to hide it]], it, of course he'd try to discourage that line of thought. It also explains why he hates the Grey Wardens for killing them when they become Archdemons [[spoiler:they they are yet another piece of his culture that is being eradicated.]] eradicated. The Old Gods were extremely powerful sentient dragon-like creations of the Elven gods, left behind in the wake of Arlathan's destruction and the loss of their masters. The humans who would eventually found the Tevinter Imperium adopted these mighty beings as their own gods. This ties in nicely with Tevinter's portrayal in this game as mere scavengers of Arlathan's culture: magic, slavery, even their gods.



We already had it twice: first in Awakening, the Warden Commander of Ferelden took Anders under his/her wing which was the first domino to fall on the way to the mage-templar war. Then Hawke unwittingly freed Corypheus, causing the crisis which followed. So true to this [[SarcasmMode proud tradition]], the Inquisitor will, in a not-yet released expansion, do something which will eventually cause the next big threat to arise in Dragon Age 4.
* Finally subverted by Trespasser: the Inquisitor didn't unwittingly cause the next big crisis that will threaten Thedas during Inquisition's final story DLC: [[spoiler: s/he did that during the main game, by being Solas' pawn from the very beginning]]

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We already had it twice: first in Awakening, ''Awakening'', the Warden Commander of Ferelden took Anders under his/her wing which was the first domino to fall on the way to the mage-templar war. Then Hawke unwittingly freed Corypheus, causing the crisis which followed. So true to this [[SarcasmMode proud tradition]], the Inquisitor will, in a not-yet released expansion, do something which will eventually cause the next big threat to arise in Dragon Age 4.
* Finally subverted by Trespasser: ''Trespasser'': the Inquisitor didn't unwittingly cause the next big crisis that will threaten Thedas during Inquisition's final story DLC: [[spoiler: s/he did that during the main game, by being Solas' pawn from the very beginning]]
beginning



Well it had to someone suitably powerful [[spoiler: and presumably Solas was still napping.]]

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Well it had to someone suitably powerful [[spoiler: and presumably Solas was still napping.]]
napping.



Some of this comes from other people's theories. [[spoiler:The elven gods were actually powerful mages with the ability to transform into dragons. They kept slaves. Fen'harel led a slave rebellion against the gods with Mythal's help. The Forgotten Ones were members of the rebellion whose actions somehow outraged Fen'harel. I think that they betrayed and murdered Mythal and invented the Blight as a weapon against the gods. Fen'harel was outraged by the Forgotten Ones' actions and sealed them away in the Golden City. He also {{Mode Lock}}ed the elven gods into dragons and imprisoned them underground. This drained Fen'harel's strength, forcing him to go into Uthenara (actually a kind of magical stasis) until shortly before ''Inquisition'' began. Upon waking, Fen'harel took the name of Solas. As revealed in DAI, Mythal was the "demon" that possessed Flemeth.]]

[[spoiler:The elven gods managed to contact the ancient Tevinter magisters in the Fade and convinced them to worship them. Eventually, Elgar'nan, elven god of vengeance, known to the Tevinters as Dumat, tricked the magisters into assaulting the Golden City so the elven gods could finally finish off the Forgotten Ones. The Forgotten Ones responded by infecting the magisters with the Blight and brainwashing them into infecting Elgar'nan with it.]]

[[spoiler:When Solas awoke from his slumber, he saw that only two of the elven gods were alive and his former followers' Blight had killed millions of people. His goal is to free the elven gods from their underground prison and kill the Forgotten Ones. The latter would require physically entering the Fade, which is why he needed the Orb. I'm not quite sure why he wants the elven gods alive, but in ''Inquisition'', he strongly dislikes the idea of killing the remaining ones. Perhaps he respects the gods, even though he once fought to overthrow them.]]

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Some of this comes from other people's theories. [[spoiler:The The elven gods were actually powerful mages with the ability to transform into dragons. They kept slaves. Fen'harel led a slave rebellion against the gods with Mythal's help. The Forgotten Ones were members of the rebellion whose actions somehow outraged Fen'harel. I think that they betrayed and murdered Mythal and invented the Blight as a weapon against the gods. Fen'harel was outraged by the Forgotten Ones' actions and sealed them away in the Golden City. He also {{Mode Lock}}ed the elven gods into dragons and imprisoned them underground. This drained Fen'harel's strength, forcing him to go into Uthenara (actually a kind of magical stasis) until shortly before ''Inquisition'' began. Upon waking, Fen'harel took the name of Solas. As revealed in DAI, Mythal was the "demon" that possessed Flemeth.]]

[[spoiler:The
Flemeth.

The
elven gods managed to contact the ancient Tevinter magisters in the Fade and convinced them to worship them. Eventually, Elgar'nan, elven god of vengeance, known to the Tevinters as Dumat, tricked the magisters into assaulting the Golden City so the elven gods could finally finish off the Forgotten Ones. The Forgotten Ones responded by infecting the magisters with the Blight and brainwashing them into infecting Elgar'nan with it.]]

[[spoiler:When
it.

When
Solas awoke from his slumber, he saw that only two of the elven gods were alive and his former followers' Blight had killed millions of people. His goal is to free the elven gods from their underground prison and kill the Forgotten Ones. The latter would require physically entering the Fade, which is why he needed the Orb. I'm not quite sure why he wants the elven gods alive, but in ''Inquisition'', he strongly dislikes the idea of killing the remaining ones. Perhaps he respects the gods, even though he once fought to overthrow them.]]
them.



* Zazikel, Old God of Chaos, was Andruil, Elven Goddess of the Hunt. [[spoiler:According to an inscription in the Temple of Mythal, Andruil lost her sanity while exploring the Fade, which would make her a rather chaotic person.]]

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* Zazikel, Old God of Chaos, was Andruil, Elven Goddess of the Hunt. [[spoiler:According According to an inscription in the Temple of Mythal, Andruil lost her sanity while exploring the Fade, which would make her a rather chaotic person.]]



* Andoral, Old God of Slaves, was Ghilan'nain, Mother of the Halla. This one is kind of a stretch, but [[spoiler:according to inscriptions in the Temple of Mythal, Ghilan'nain created other beasts and beasts are slaves to people.]]

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* Andoral, Old God of Slaves, was Ghilan'nain, Mother of the Halla. This one is kind of a stretch, but [[spoiler:according according to inscriptions in the Temple of Mythal, Ghilan'nain created other beasts and beasts are slaves to people.]]



* A corollary to this, the codex entry for the Draconis constellation mentions speculation of an eighth Old God who's name and very existence was stricken from the record. [[spoiler:That would be Mythal, who was murdered by ''someone''. Thus Flemeth's ability to turn into a dragon.]]
** One potential problem with this was recently revealed in Jaws of Hakkon. [[spoiler:It was reveiled that Razikale was a female Old God where as Dirthamen is a male Elven God. But the potential that the codex is inaccurate in-universe still exists..]]

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* A corollary to this, the codex entry for the Draconis constellation mentions speculation of an eighth Old God who's name and very existence was stricken from the record. [[spoiler:That That would be Mythal, who was murdered by ''someone''. Thus Flemeth's ability to turn into a dragon.]]
dragon.
** One potential problem with this was recently revealed in Jaws of Hakkon. [[spoiler:It It was reveiled that Razikale was a female Old God where as Dirthamen is a male Elven God. But the potential that the codex is inaccurate in-universe still exists..]]
exists.



Specifically the souls of the original Flemeth, [[spoiler:Mythal]], and Flemeth's hosts throughout the ages. The original woman seems to be the dominant personality, but all of the other souls are a part of her as well. This is why [[spoiler:all of her daughters were willing to give Flemeth their bodies. They would still be alive in a sense, and they would be part of something greater than themselves.]]

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Specifically the souls of the original Flemeth, [[spoiler:Mythal]], Mythal, and Flemeth's hosts throughout the ages. The original woman seems to be the dominant personality, but all of the other souls are a part of her as well. This is why [[spoiler:all all of her daughters were willing to give Flemeth their bodies. They would still be alive in a sense, and they would be part of something greater than themselves.]]
themselves.



He arrogantly believed that he alone knew what had to be done to save The People, and it all went horribly wrong. His new name [[spoiler:"Solas", which means Pride,]] reflects that.
* As of ''Trespasser'', [[spoiler:Jossed. His name was always Solas. "Dread Wolf" was what his detractors called him.]]

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He arrogantly believed that he alone knew what had to be done to save The People, and it all went horribly wrong. His new name [[spoiler:"Solas", "Solas", which means Pride,]] Pride, reflects that.
* As of ''Trespasser'', [[spoiler:Jossed.Jossed. His name was always Solas. "Dread Wolf" was what his detractors called him.]]
him.



The ''Dragon Age'' wiki states that the game files indicate the Orb was related to [[spoiler:Mythal, not the Fen'Harel, and Solas states that they're foci for the powers of the Elven Pantheon. Maybe the power of the Orbs is what separates an Elven god from a regular, immortal Arlathan elf, and allows them to live on until this age. As such, locking the power of the Orbs might have been how the Dread Wolf actually banished the gods, unlocking it would have been his way to atone by freeing the gods again, and unwillingly causing its destruction killed Mythal for good. That's why Solas was so devastated by the destruction, and what he meant in the end by saying he should be the one to pay the price instead of her, and how he's sorry. He's not possessed by Mythal/Flemeth, he killed her. The glowy eyes only serve to further indicate that he's an entity of the same nature as her, hammering in the point that he's Fen'Harel.]]

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The ''Dragon Age'' wiki states that the game files indicate the Orb was related to [[spoiler:Mythal, Mythal, not the Fen'Harel, and Solas states that they're foci for the powers of the Elven Pantheon. Maybe the power of the Orbs is what separates an Elven god from a regular, immortal Arlathan elf, and allows them to live on until this age. As such, locking the power of the Orbs might have been how the Dread Wolf actually banished the gods, unlocking it would have been his way to atone by freeing the gods again, and unwillingly causing its destruction killed Mythal for good. That's why Solas was so devastated by the destruction, and what he meant in the end by saying he should be the one to pay the price instead of her, and how he's sorry. He's not possessed by Mythal/Flemeth, he killed her. The glowy eyes only serve to further indicate that he's an entity of the same nature as her, hammering in the point that he's Fen'Harel.]]
Fen'Harel.



[[spoiler:He was using them to ''weaken'' it. He's not trying to bring back the other elven gods. In fact, he could care less about them. Rather, he's trying to tear down the Veil for good, to merge the Fade and the waking world, just like it was back in the ancient days. Think about it: this is a man who makes no secret of his love for all things Fade related. One of the first conversations you can have with him is him gushing over how cool it would be if spirits were commonplace. He continues to make several offhand comments throughout the game about a merger between the two worlds, but the most telling of them is this low approval conversation about helping the elves:]]
--> [[spoiler:'''inquisitor:''' The man whose spent half his life in the Fade has no ideas [on helping them]?]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Solas:''' Not unless we collapse the Veil and bring the Fade here so I can casually reshape reality, no.]]
[[spoiler:That seems like an… oddly specific solution to bring up for the sake of snark. We already know that the Orb can be used to punch a hole through the Veil, but perhaps with enough power, along with a few dozen artifacts sprinkled around Thedas, it could be used to tear the whole thing down entirely. And then there's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwa-mKETJW0 Sandal's creepy prophecy]] at the end of VideoGame/DragonAgeII. There's a lot of speculation that it was a prediction of the events in Inquisition, but the comparison falls apart unless you disregard the entire first half of his speech. After all, magic didn't come back, and no one is "just like they were" (Whoever "they" are supposed to be. Ancient elves, perhaps?). Which means that the prophecy is still on, as far as we know. And shadows parting? Skies opening wide? All the magic returning? That sounds a lot like someone's about to go screwing with the fabric of reality. And by endgame, Solas is the person with the most ominous mysterious agenda.]]

* [[spoiler: [[BigWinSirens Ding ding ding ding!]] ''Trespasser'' confirms that Solas' endgame is to tear down the Veil--the barrier that he created--to restore the ancient elves.]]

[[WMG:Solus is Shartan.]]
We see Shartan in the first game and he looks damn near identical to Solus, and even sounds similar. Solus also seems oddly fond of Andraste and the chantry considering all that it has done for elvenkind, and mentions himself that he has met many heroes. It always bugged me that Shartan's final fate always seemed rather vague, and this might be why. He never died!
* [[spoiler:Not completely unfounded. Solas makes a subtle allusion to an elven skirmish during one his banters with Blackwall. He could be referring to his role in sealing away the other elven gods, but directors notes found in the game file state specifically that Solas has been sleeping for a thousand years. Either this was an oversight on the writer's part, or he's been up and about since the fall of Arlathan. And one thousand years puts him neatly in the timeframe of Andraste's rise to power. Besides, leading an elven slave uprising seems like the kind of thing that a god of rebellion would get behind, and it'd certainly explain both his disillusionment with modern elves, and the dialogue you get where he expresses weariness over fighting for unspecified causes. If this is true, he fought not once, but ''twice'' for the elves, and in the end, they were still oppressed, downtrodden, and impoverished. It's no wonder he's so bitter and disheartened by the time of Inquisition.]]

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[[spoiler:He He was using them to ''weaken'' it. He's not trying to bring back the other elven gods. In fact, he could care less about them. Rather, he's trying to tear down the Veil for good, to merge the Fade and the waking world, just like it was back in the ancient days. Think about it: this is a man who makes no secret of his love for all things Fade related. One of the first conversations you can have with him is him gushing over how cool it would be if spirits were commonplace. He continues to make several offhand comments throughout the game about a merger between the two worlds, but the most telling of them is this low approval conversation about helping the elves:]]
elves:
--> [[spoiler:'''inquisitor:''' '''Inquisitor:''' The man whose spent half his life in the Fade has no ideas [on helping them]?]]
them]?
--> [[spoiler:'''Solas:''' '''Solas:''' Not unless we collapse the Veil and bring the Fade here so I can casually reshape reality, no.]]
[[spoiler:That
no.
That
seems like an… oddly specific solution to bring up for the sake of snark. We already know that the Orb can be used to punch a hole through the Veil, but perhaps with enough power, along with a few dozen artifacts sprinkled around Thedas, it could be used to tear the whole thing down entirely. And then there's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwa-mKETJW0 Sandal's creepy prophecy]] at the end of VideoGame/DragonAgeII. There's a lot of speculation that it was a prediction of the events in Inquisition, but the comparison falls apart unless you disregard the entire first half of his speech. After all, magic didn't come back, and no one is "just like they were" (Whoever "they" are supposed to be. Ancient elves, perhaps?). Which means that the prophecy is still on, as far as we know. And shadows parting? Skies opening wide? All the magic returning? That sounds a lot like someone's about to go screwing with the fabric of reality. And by endgame, Solas is the person with the most ominous mysterious agenda.]]

agenda.

* [[spoiler: [[BigWinSirens Ding ding ding ding!]] ''Trespasser'' confirms that Solas' endgame is to tear down the Veil--the barrier that he created--to restore the ancient elves.]]

[[WMG:Solus
elves.

[[WMG:Solas
is Shartan.]]
We see Shartan in the first game and he looks damn near identical to Solus, Solas, and even sounds similar. Solus also seems oddly fond of Andraste and the chantry considering all that it has done for elvenkind, and mentions himself that he has met many heroes. It always bugged me that Shartan's final fate always seemed rather vague, and this might be why. He never died!
* [[spoiler:Not Not completely unfounded. Solas makes a subtle allusion to an elven skirmish during one his banters with Blackwall. He could be referring to his role in sealing away the other elven gods, but directors notes found in the game file state specifically that Solas has been sleeping for a thousand years. Either this was an oversight on the writer's part, or he's been up and about since the fall of Arlathan. And one thousand years puts him neatly in the timeframe of Andraste's rise to power. Besides, leading an elven slave uprising seems like the kind of thing that a god of rebellion would get behind, and it'd certainly explain both his disillusionment with modern elves, and the dialogue you get where he expresses weariness over fighting for unspecified causes. If this is true, he fought not once, but ''twice'' for the elves, and in the end, they were still oppressed, downtrodden, and impoverished. It's no wonder he's so bitter and disheartened by the time of Inquisition.]]



[[spoiler: Specifically, she is either A) the elven god Andruil, or B) carries a wisp of Andruil like Flemeth carries Mythal. The full explanation of this theory is [[http://shispan.tumblr.com/post/106752987253/spoilers-sera-is-a-vessel-speculation-more here]], but here's a few of the more compelling connections. Sera is a natural archer, and claims in dialogue with the Inquisitor that no one taught her, she simply knew. Andruil is the elven goddess of the hunt. Furthermore, Solas and Cole point out in banter conversations that there is something... more to Sera. Cole claims that Sera "sees the strings" that hold him and calls her a "quiver within a quiver", and Solas asks questions pointed enough to know more about Sera than he lets on (I don't remember the exact quote, but Solas coaxes Sera into admitting that she sees "something" "beyond the Breach." Furthermore, according to in-game lore, Andruil went mad hunting The Forgotten Ones in the Void (the Fade, possibly)(there are vague references to these beings taking the form of winged terrors; Sera loves fighting dragons in DA:I), and Mythal eventually banished her there forever (making Sera's fear of the Fade in Here Lies the Abyss, her fear of magic, and her revulsion at Cole understandable). And then there's [[http://media.tumblr.com/5a811a6ef1ddb56d20470cc4ddf3bcc9/tumblr_inline_nhgxhleLtS1s8akl7.jpg this]].]]
** [[spoiler: In one party banter, she talks disgustedly about how killing doesn't bother her, but once a body is dismembered, they're not people anymore, just ''meat''. She also hates elves for being "too elfy" and all forms of moping about the past. If Sera is partly an elven goddess of the hunt who reviles what she once was, it makes sense that she doesn't like to be reminded of anything related to it, even subconsciously.]]

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[[spoiler: Specifically, she is either A) the elven god Andruil, or B) carries a wisp of Andruil like Flemeth carries Mythal. The full explanation of this theory is [[http://shispan.tumblr.com/post/106752987253/spoilers-sera-is-a-vessel-speculation-more here]], but here's a few of the more compelling connections. Sera is a natural archer, and claims in dialogue with the Inquisitor that no one taught her, she simply knew. Andruil is the elven goddess of the hunt. Furthermore, Solas and Cole point out in banter conversations that there is something... more to Sera. Cole claims that Sera "sees the strings" that hold him and calls her a "quiver within a quiver", and Solas asks questions pointed enough to know more about Sera than he lets on (I don't remember the exact quote, but Solas coaxes Sera into admitting that she sees "something" "beyond the Breach." Furthermore, according to in-game lore, Andruil went mad hunting The Forgotten Ones in the Void (the Fade, possibly)(there are vague references to these beings taking the form of winged terrors; Sera loves fighting dragons in DA:I), and Mythal eventually banished her there forever (making Sera's fear of the Fade in Here Lies the Abyss, her fear of magic, and her revulsion at Cole understandable). And then there's [[http://media.tumblr.com/5a811a6ef1ddb56d20470cc4ddf3bcc9/tumblr_inline_nhgxhleLtS1s8akl7.jpg this]].]]
this]].
** [[spoiler: In one party banter, she talks disgustedly about how killing doesn't bother her, but once a body is dismembered, they're not people anymore, just ''meat''. She also hates elves for being "too elfy" and all forms of moping about the past. If Sera is partly an elven goddess of the hunt who reviles what she once was, it makes sense that she doesn't like to be reminded of anything related to it, even subconsciously.]]



[[WMG: [[spoiler: Solas can see through time, and he meant to use the Orb for true time travel.]]]]

[[spoiler: Alexius uses time magic to send the Inquisitor into the future, and in that future, he notes that his time magic is confined to the span of time in which the Breach exists, and the Breach was caused by the Orb, which originally belonged to Solas. Being a Trickster god who excels at gambling and games even if he's never played before (as Blackwall mentions at one point), it's possible that he has a natural ability to see through different timelines and use what he sees in possible futures to inform his decisions in the present. If so, as a focus for his abilities, the Orb could have been a means for him to actually travel through time in the Fade, allowing him to change the past and correct any of the mistakes he may consider himself to have made, possibly to aid the Elven gods, or prevent Elven culture in Thedas from falling so far from grace, or any number of other things. That's why he goes to Mythal after the Orb is shattered: without it, his plans are over before they even began, and he's got a whole lot of fun new reasons to be ''pissed'' at Thedas: Tevinter, for producing Corypheus, Elves, for continuing in what he considers cultural squalor, even himself, for being an idiot and giving Corypheus the Orb at all... and now he's hooked up with an angry, recently-empowered Mythal with a brand-new servant bound to her will. "Shake the heavens" indeed.]]
** [[spoiler: If you bring him to the dark future, he even says, "You would think such understanding would stop me from making such terrible mistakes. You would be wrong." That could just as easily refer to his ability to think fourth-dimensionally as to his missteps as Fen'harel. Being able to see and understand the flow of time doesn't preclude him making bad judgment calls in the moment.]]
** [[spoiler: I always thought it was weird that in Maryden's song about Sera, the chorus is "Why ''change'' the past when you can own this day?". If the theory about Sera being Andruil is true, and Solas is at least somewhat aware of it and that's why he tries to get her to acknowledge her "inner elf", it might be a deliberate hint.]]

[[WMG: Fiona was being influenced [[spoiler:by the Nightmare Demon.]]]]
Mages are accustomed to being collectively blamed and punished for any magic-related problem. When the Breach occurred, it would have caused a MassOhCrap from nearly every mage in southern Thedas, [[ProperlyParanoid all certain that they're going to be blamed for this, too]], and that people will retaliate. Fiona would be no different, and her fear would be exacerbated by the shear number of people she's caring for. Then [[TimeyWimeyBall immediately]] after the Breach, someone walked up to her and told her that her worst fear was going to be realized, and she panics. [[spoiler:Nightmare may have been focusing on the Wardens, but what's stopping it from taking time out from that to give Fiona a little push?]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Solas can see through time, and he meant to use the Orb for true time travel.]]]]

[[spoiler:
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Alexius uses time magic to send the Inquisitor into the future, and in that future, he notes that his time magic is confined to the span of time in which the Breach exists, and the Breach was caused by the Orb, which originally belonged to Solas. Being a Trickster god who excels at gambling and games even if he's never played before (as Blackwall mentions at one point), it's possible that he has a natural ability to see through different timelines and use what he sees in possible futures to inform his decisions in the present. If so, as a focus for his abilities, the Orb could have been a means for him to actually travel through time in the Fade, allowing him to change the past and correct any of the mistakes he may consider himself to have made, possibly to aid the Elven gods, or prevent Elven culture in Thedas from falling so far from grace, or any number of other things. That's why he goes to Mythal after the Orb is shattered: without it, his plans are over before they even began, and he's got a whole lot of fun new reasons to be ''pissed'' at Thedas: Tevinter, for producing Corypheus, Elves, for continuing in what he considers cultural squalor, even himself, for being an idiot and giving Corypheus the Orb at all... and now he's hooked up with an angry, recently-empowered Mythal with a brand-new servant bound to her will. "Shake the heavens" indeed.]]
indeed.
** [[spoiler: If you bring him to the dark future, he even says, "You would think such understanding would stop me from making such terrible mistakes. You would be wrong." That could just as easily refer to his ability to think fourth-dimensionally as to his missteps as Fen'harel. Being able to see and understand the flow of time doesn't preclude him making bad judgment calls in the moment.moment.
** I always thought it was weird that in Maryden's song about Sera, the chorus is "Why ''change'' the past when you can own this day?". If the theory about Sera being Andruil is true, and Solas is at least somewhat aware of it and that's why he tries to get her to acknowledge her "inner elf", it might be a deliberate hint.

[[WMG: Fiona was being influenced by the Nightmare Demon.
]]
** [[spoiler: I always thought it was weird that in Maryden's song about Sera, the chorus is "Why ''change'' the past when you can own this day?". If the theory about Sera being Andruil is true, and Solas is at least somewhat aware of it and that's why he tries to get her to acknowledge her "inner elf", it might be a deliberate hint.]]

[[WMG: Fiona was being influenced [[spoiler:by the Nightmare Demon.]]]]
Mages are accustomed to being collectively blamed and punished for any magic-related problem. When the Breach occurred, it would have caused a MassOhCrap from nearly every mage in southern Thedas, [[ProperlyParanoid all certain that they're going to be blamed for this, too]], and that people will retaliate. Fiona would be no different, and her fear would be exacerbated by the shear number of people she's caring for. Then [[TimeyWimeyBall immediately]] after the Breach, someone walked up to her and told her that her worst fear was going to be realized, and she panics. [[spoiler:Nightmare Nightmare may have been focusing on the Wardens, but what's stopping it from taking time out from that to give Fiona a little push?]]
push?



* [[spoiler: Confirmed, oddly enough. Not the envy demon part - apparently the lyrium in the Temple of Sacred Ashes "sang thought into being." [[AuthorsSavingThrow And that's why she's still walking around if she's been perforated.]]]]

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* [[spoiler: Confirmed, confirmed, oddly enough. Not the envy demon part - apparently the lyrium in the Temple of Sacred Ashes "sang thought into being." [[AuthorsSavingThrow [[SalvagedStory And that's why she's still walking around if she's been perforated.]]]]
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Thus his skill with enchanting, why he apparently has dreams of Flemeth, [[spoiler:who is also possessed by an elven god]], laughing at him, and why a dwarf who looks suspiciously like him shows up [[spoiler: in the Fade]] during ''Champions of the Just''. He could very well have been born before dwarves lost their connection to the Fade.

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Thus his skill with enchanting, why he apparently has dreams of Flemeth, [[spoiler:who who is also possessed by an elven god]], god, laughing at him, and why a dwarf who looks suspiciously like him shows up [[spoiler: in the Fade]] Fade during ''Champions of the Just''. He could very well have been born before dwarves lost their connection to the Fade.



According to legend, there were seven Magisters, one for each Old God. [[spoiler:Corypheus specifically corresponded to Dumat.]] If the theories about an eighth Old God are true, than it stands to reason that there was also an eighth Magister. The Architect's apparent memory loss is connected to whatever led to his patron being stricken from the record. Thus why WordOfGod is not "the Architect is one of the other six Magisters" but the much more vague "[[ExactWords The Architect is the same type of being as Corypheus]]".
* Given the similarities between the Architect's mask and Urthemiel's symbol, it's also possible that the Architect was the Magister who worshiped the Tevinter god of Beauty. That would explain why he sought out Urthemiel first when he enacted his plan to [[spoiler:end Blights by "Joining" Old Gods.]]

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According to legend, there were seven Magisters, one for each Old God. [[spoiler:Corypheus Corypheus specifically corresponded to Dumat.]] Dumat. If the theories about an eighth Old God are true, than it stands to reason that there was also an eighth Magister. The Architect's apparent memory loss is connected to whatever led to his patron being stricken from the record. Thus why WordOfGod is not "the Architect is one of the other six Magisters" but the much more vague "[[ExactWords The Architect is the same type of being as Corypheus]]".
* Given the similarities between the Architect's mask and Urthemiel's symbol, it's also possible that the Architect was the Magister who worshiped the Tevinter god of Beauty. That would explain why he sought out Urthemiel first when he enacted his plan to [[spoiler:end end Blights by "Joining" Old Gods.]]



Namely [[spoiler:the Elven Pantheon]]. It's not too hard to imagine that Cassandra, with her dedication to faith and justice, reminds Solas of [[spoiler:Mythal, a good friend of his,]] which explains why he gets along with her so well. The above mentioned similarities Sera has to [[spoiler:Andruil, goddess of the hunt]] may be why he keeps trying to reach out to her despite Sera being Sera.

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Namely [[spoiler:the the Elven Pantheon]]. Pantheon. It's not too hard to imagine that Cassandra, with her dedication to faith and justice, reminds Solas of [[spoiler:Mythal, Mythal, a good friend of his,]] his, which explains why he gets along with her so well. The above mentioned similarities Sera has to [[spoiler:Andruil, Andruil, goddess of the hunt]] hunt may be why he keeps trying to reach out to her despite Sera being Sera.



[[WMG: Regarding the Stinger, [[spoiler: Solas didn't take Mythal's power. Mythal possessed Solas]].]]

[[spoiler: Who else would Mythal want revenge on more than the Dread Wolf? Sure, they're friends, but Solas ''royally'' fucked up in giving his Orb to Corypheus. He even says "I should pay the price". He wasn't just being colorful, he came to Mythal as a penitent, and she punished him by usurping his will.]]
* WordOfGod is that [[spoiler:Solas took Mythal's power...except for a portion that Flemeth transferred through the Eluvian that she intended Morrigan to claim.]]

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[[WMG: Regarding the Stinger, [[spoiler: Solas didn't take Mythal's power. Mythal possessed Solas]].Solas.]]

[[spoiler: Who else would Mythal want revenge on more than the Dread Wolf? Sure, they're friends, but Solas ''royally'' fucked up in giving his Orb to Corypheus. He even says "I should pay the price". He wasn't just being colorful, he came to Mythal as a penitent, and she punished him by usurping his will.]]
will.
* WordOfGod is that [[spoiler:Solas Solas took Mythal's power...except for a portion that Flemeth transferred through the Eluvian that she intended Morrigan to claim.]]
claim.



This could also mean her oft-criticized accent is fake (since Andraste was Alamarri). Interestingly, this would mean the Inquisitor really ''is'' the Herald of Andraste [[spoiler:even though it was Justinia who saved them in the Fade]], just not for the same reason everybody believes.

How is Andraste alive at the tender age of 1043 (and after being incinerated), though? [[spoiler:This could very well be related to the whole Flemeth/Mythal business]].

Her initial hostility towards Dorian because he's from Tevinter would also be understandable [[spoiler:since she dedicated most of her life to fighting Tevinter before she was burned at the stake by them.]]

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This could also mean her oft-criticized accent is fake (since Andraste was Alamarri). Interestingly, this would mean the Inquisitor really ''is'' the Herald of Andraste [[spoiler:even even though it was Justinia who saved them in the Fade]], Fade, just not for the same reason everybody believes.

How is Andraste alive at the tender age of 1043 (and after being incinerated), though? [[spoiler:This This could very well be related to the whole Flemeth/Mythal business]].

business.

Her initial hostility towards Dorian because he's from Tevinter would also be understandable [[spoiler:since since she dedicated most of her life to fighting Tevinter before she was burned at the stake by them.]]



* Jossed. The new threat the Inquisitor leaves for the next PC is [[spoiler:Solas and a qunari invasion]].

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* Jossed. The new threat the Inquisitor leaves for the next PC is [[spoiler:Solas Solas and a qunari invasion]].
invasion.



''The Jaws of Hakkon'' spoilers: [[spoiler: 1:We now know that the Avvar get on quite well with Fade spirits, and worship particularly powerful ones as gods, such as Hakkon Wintersmith. 2: We also know it's not unheard of for them to bind these gods inside mortal hosts. 3: Svarrah Sun-hair can explicitly state that this has happened to the Lady of the Skies in the past. The Alamarri, that Andraste was descended from, were forerunners to the Avvar and worshiped the same gods and had largely the same culture (it was only changed by Andraste and the chantry's influence itself). And we've already heard theories that Andraste may have been a mage. Maybe when the First Blight struck, the Avvar brought down their own god to help them against the chaos and rampages of the enemy god, Dumat. The reason Maferath killed her was so that she could be born again, as Avvar/Alamarri are wont to do once their mortal-gods are done with whatever they were doing.]]
* Some points in support: some have already pointed out the similarities between [[spoiler: Flemeth/Mythal]] and Andraste, such as only ever having daughters and vast and mysterious magical powers. Maybe it's because they're both gods bound in human form? Also Old-timey folk seem to connect gods and dragons an awful lot (the 'Vints explicitly worshipped dragons, a lot of old elven god art seems very draconic, Mythal's guardian is a dragon [[spoiler: Hakkon Wintersmith was bound into a dragon, and Flemeth can notably transform into one.]] And suddenly the idea that the people of Haven started mistaking a High Dragon for "Andraste reborn" seems much less silly, if they were remembering pre-Chantry beliefs of her.

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''The Jaws of Hakkon'' spoilers: [[spoiler: 1:We Hakkon'': 1: We now know that the Avvar get on quite well with Fade spirits, and worship particularly powerful ones as gods, such as Hakkon Wintersmith. 2: We also know it's not unheard of for them to bind these gods inside mortal hosts. 3: Svarrah Sun-hair can explicitly state that this has happened to the Lady of the Skies in the past. The Alamarri, that Andraste was descended from, were forerunners to the Avvar and worshiped the same gods and had largely the same culture (it was only changed by Andraste and the chantry's influence itself). And we've already heard theories that Andraste may have been a mage. Maybe when the First Blight struck, the Avvar brought down their own god to help them against the chaos and rampages of the enemy god, Dumat. The reason Maferath killed her was so that she could be born again, as Avvar/Alamarri are wont to do once their mortal-gods are done with whatever they were doing.]]
doing.
* Some points in support: some have already pointed out the similarities between [[spoiler: Flemeth/Mythal]] Flemeth/Mythal and Andraste, such as only ever having daughters and vast and mysterious magical powers. Maybe it's because they're both gods bound in human form? Also Old-timey folk seem to connect gods and dragons an awful lot (the 'Vints explicitly worshipped dragons, a lot of old elven god art seems very draconic, Mythal's guardian is a dragon [[spoiler: Hakkon Wintersmith was bound into a dragon, and Flemeth can notably transform into one.]] one. And suddenly the idea that the people of Haven started mistaking a High Dragon for "Andraste reborn" seems much less silly, if they were remembering pre-Chantry beliefs of her.



Both his eccentricities and his powers may be due to [[spoiler:receiving the same "gift" from the Titan that Valta did, except at an earlier age.]]

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Both his eccentricities and his powers may be due to [[spoiler:receiving receiving the same "gift" from the Titan that Valta did, except at an earlier age.]]



When choosing the Warden, the player essentially chose where Duncan would go at a certain time, determining which Warden ended surviving the events of their origin. The Inquisitor's solution at the end of ''Trespasser'' for [[spoiler:stopping Solas]] is to find allies that [[spoiler:Solas]] does not know about. So ''Dragon Age 4'' will start as ''Origins'' did by choosing race, class, and possibly the origin itself, otherwise the origin will be determined by race as it was for the Inquisitor. At some point while playing the origin story, the new PC will find themselves in a life threatening situation that will be solved by the Inquisitor, who may or may not be accompanied by someone else. At some point after that, the Inquisitor will decide that the new PC could be what s/he is looking for, and will go underground after directing the new PC to Dorian. Using those [[FanNickname magic cellphones]] that Dorian gave the Inquisitor in ''Trespasser'', Dorian will act as an intermediary so the Inquisitor can offer guidance without alerting [[spoiler:Solas]] to their actions. In sense, the selection of the next PC [[PassingTheTorch will be the last choice we make as the Inquisitor]].

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When choosing the Warden, the player essentially chose where Duncan would go at a certain time, determining which Warden ended surviving the events of their origin. The Inquisitor's solution at the end of ''Trespasser'' for [[spoiler:stopping Solas]] stopping Solas is to find allies that [[spoiler:Solas]] Solas does not know about. So ''Dragon Age 4'' will start as ''Origins'' did by choosing race, class, and possibly the origin itself, otherwise the origin will be determined by race as it was for the Inquisitor. At some point while playing the origin story, the new PC will find themselves in a life threatening situation that will be solved by the Inquisitor, who may or may not be accompanied by someone else. At some point after that, the Inquisitor will decide that the new PC could be what s/he is looking for, and will go underground after directing the new PC to Dorian. Using those [[FanNickname magic cellphones]] that Dorian gave the Inquisitor in ''Trespasser'', Dorian will act as an intermediary so the Inquisitor can offer guidance without alerting [[spoiler:Solas]] Solas to their actions. In sense, the selection of the next PC [[PassingTheTorch will be the last choice we make as the Inquisitor]].



[[WMG: In DA:IV [[spoiler: Fenris will be a boss.]] ]]
[[spoiler: If Hawke gave him back to Denarius, he'll be an attack dog of the Not-Helpful Magisters. If Hawke freed him, he now works for Solas.]]
* [[spoiler: Maybe the first one but I very much doubt that Fenris would be with Solas. First, for character reasons; Fenris is broadly Andrastian in his beliefs so he won't like Solas as a god and we know how he feels about mages, so whichever way one views Solas Fenris will not like him. Second, for story construction reasons; the series has yet to force us to kill a former companion, even when it might be something you could see happening, like Sten in VideoGame/DragonAgeII or ''Trespasser.'' We've been given the option but never forced into it. Third, relationship reasons; if Hawke survives ''Here Lies The Abyss'' Varric says that their love interest (if any) and surviving sibling will certainly follow them. As of the ''Tresasser'' epilogue we know a surviving Hawke is back in Kirkwall. Relevance? Well, this means that, if romanced, Fenris is back with Hawke and highly unlikely to follow some stranger on a crusade. And that would be overly favouring one world state. Finally the biggest reason why Fenris would not follow Solas is because Solas' aim is utterly antithetical to Fenris' beliefs and view of the world. Solas wants to burn the world in order to make it more magical. Fenris despises magic in all it's forms and believes that it's mere existence corrupts the world. These are not two people likely to get on.]]
* [[spoiler: A free Fenris will probably not help a powerful mage hellbent on [[TheMagicComesBack strengthening the world's magic]]... Merrill on the other hand... Here Bioware has the opportunity to pull another Iron Bull by having a Merrill who fixed her Eluvian and never gave up on restoring ancient elvhen magic joining Solas' ranks and becoming an antagonist [[PlayerPunch even if she was romanced]] ]]
** [[spoiler: That would require some impressive CharacterDerailment. While she may be intense on the subject of Elvhen magic the defining character trait of Merrill is her compassion, which overrides even her obsession with the mirror. It would be a hell of jump for her to suddenly be ok with murdering millions. Not to mention she is a faithful follower of the Dalish religion and was not there to see the evidence of the Evanuris so won't be inclined to trust Fen'Harel. Plus even if she doesn't destroy the mirror she doesn't fix it either and in fact decides to put aside her obsession to follow a new path. Frankly I'd be surprised if any former companions except Dorian put in personal appearances in DA:4, since it appears to be set to take place in Tevinter, which is a LONG way from any of their stomping grounds and, more meta, the only former companions that have had significant effects after their games are Anders and Varric (who were companions again) Leliana and Morrigan (whose backstory make them essential to the plot). The others get cameos at most. And no, I don't count Warden Alistair/Loghain, since their role in ''Inquisition'' is optional and totally replaceable with a minor NPC.]]

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[[WMG: In DA:IV [[spoiler: Fenris will be a boss.]] ]]
[[spoiler: If Hawke gave him back to Denarius, he'll be an attack dog of the Not-Helpful Magisters. If Hawke freed him, he now works for Solas.
]]
If Hawke gave him back to Denarius, he'll be an attack dog of the Not-Helpful Magisters. If Hawke freed him, he now works for Solas.
* [[spoiler: Maybe the first one but I very much doubt that Fenris would be with Solas. First, for character reasons; Fenris is broadly Andrastian in his beliefs so he won't like Solas as a god and we know how he feels about mages, so whichever way one views Solas Fenris will not like him. Second, for story construction reasons; the series has yet to force us to kill a former companion, even when it might be something you could see happening, like Sten in VideoGame/DragonAgeII or ''Trespasser.'' We've been given the option but never forced into it. Third, relationship reasons; if Hawke survives ''Here Lies The Abyss'' Varric says that their love interest (if any) and surviving sibling will certainly follow them. As of the ''Tresasser'' epilogue we know a surviving Hawke is back in Kirkwall. Relevance? Well, this means that, if romanced, Fenris is back with Hawke and highly unlikely to follow some stranger on a crusade. And that would be overly favouring one world state. Finally the biggest reason why Fenris would not follow Solas is because Solas' aim is utterly antithetical to Fenris' beliefs and view of the world. Solas wants to burn the world in order to make it more magical. Fenris despises magic in all it's its forms and believes that it's its mere existence corrupts the world. These are not two people likely to get on.]]
on.
* [[spoiler: A free Fenris will probably not help a powerful mage hellbent on [[TheMagicComesBack strengthening the world's magic]]... Merrill on the other hand... Here Bioware has the opportunity to pull another Iron Bull by having a Merrill who fixed her Eluvian and never gave up on restoring ancient elvhen magic joining Solas' ranks and becoming an antagonist [[PlayerPunch even if she was romanced]] ]]
romanced]].
** [[spoiler: That would require some impressive CharacterDerailment. While she may be intense on the subject of Elvhen magic the defining character trait of Merrill is her compassion, which overrides even her obsession with the mirror. It would be a hell of jump for her to suddenly be ok with murdering millions. Not to mention she is a faithful follower of the Dalish religion and was not there to see the evidence of the Evanuris so won't be inclined to trust Fen'Harel. Plus even if she doesn't destroy the mirror she doesn't fix it either and in fact decides to put aside her obsession to follow a new path. Frankly I'd be surprised if any former companions except Dorian put in personal appearances in DA:4, since it appears to be set to take place in Tevinter, which is a LONG way from any of their stomping grounds and, more meta, the only former companions that have had significant effects after their games are Anders and Varric (who were companions again) Leliana and Morrigan (whose backstory make them essential to the plot). The others get cameos at most. And no, I don't count Warden Alistair/Loghain, since their role in ''Inquisition'' is optional and totally replaceable with a minor NPC.]]
NPC.



[[spoiler: We now know that the Fade and the ordinary world used to be one, that Elven culture relied greatly on the duality of the world, and that Solas sealed the Gods away forever when he created the veil. My theory is that the Golden City is the place the Elvhen gods originally ruled from and when Solas created the veil and trapped them in the Fade the Golden city went with them. Over time the rage and hate of the gods corrupted the city, turning the Golden city black, poisoning the area with their negative emotions. Then when the Tevinter magisters invaded the Fade later on they encountered this corruption and it gained physical form as the Blight. They then returned to Thedas and spread the Blight without realising or understanding it. This is why the blight grants magical power, it channels the sealed power of the Gods, why the Blight spreads to everything, why the darkspawn are driven to kill everyone around them and why ghouls are driven to help them, it's all driven by the Elvhen gods' rage at the world and their desire to be free.]]

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[[spoiler: We now know that the Fade and the ordinary world used to be one, that Elven culture relied greatly on the duality of the world, and that Solas sealed the Gods away forever when he created the veil. My theory is that the Golden City is the place the Elvhen gods originally ruled from and when Solas created the veil and trapped them in the Fade the Golden city went with them. Over time the rage and hate of the gods corrupted the city, turning the Golden city black, poisoning the area with their negative emotions. Then when the Tevinter magisters invaded the Fade later on they encountered this corruption and it gained physical form as the Blight. They then returned to Thedas and spread the Blight without realising or understanding it. This is why the blight grants magical power, it channels the sealed power of the Gods, why the Blight spreads to everything, why the darkspawn are driven to kill everyone around them and why ghouls are driven to help them, it's all driven by the Elvhen gods' rage at the world and their desire to be free.]]
free.



* [[spoiler: Kieran, if he exists.]]
* [[spoiler: Solas.]]
* [[spoiler: One of the other Evanuris' avatars.]]

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* [[spoiler: Kieran, if he exists.]]
exists.
* [[spoiler: Solas.]]
Solas.
* [[spoiler: One of the other Evanuris' avatars.]]



She will contact the next PlayerCharacter and help them on behalf ot the inquisition. The positivie response from the Inquisitor in Trespasser isn't particularly strong, implying the relationship it if it exists will not go very far.

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She will contact the next PlayerCharacter and help them on behalf ot of the inquisition. The positivie positive response from the Inquisitor in Trespasser isn't particularly strong, implying the relationship it if it exists will not go very far.



[[WMG: ''Trespasser'' Spoilers: [[spoiler: There's more to the Evanuris and Arlathan than Solas is saying.]] ]]
[[spoiler: While I'm sure the Evanuris were dictators and likely Solas' rebellion was not unjustified we are still only getting one side of the story. The elves have remembered the Evanuris as broadly benevolent gods, which (even taking into account the loss of information) seems unlikely if they were nothing but relentless tyrants. I can see elven history whitewashing their memory but not doing a complete one-eighty on them. This is supported by the records in the library from ''Trespasser,'' in which the elves of Arlathan don't come across as oppressed or downtrodden. Oddly, based on the evidence, the best modern Thedas society as a match for Arlathan would be Tevinter, something Dorian comments on at one point. It looks like there was an often brutally oppressed slave caste and a near all-powerful upper class that got everything their way but most elves lived perfectly comfortable lives, indeed probably better than most peasants of modern Thedas due to magical convenience. After all there must be something pretty good to that society that Solas is willing to go to such insane lengths and risk the return of his greatest enemies in order to bring it back.]]

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[[WMG: ''Trespasser'' Spoilers: [[spoiler: ''Trespasser'': There's more to the Evanuris and Arlathan than Solas is saying.]] ]]
[[spoiler: While I'm sure the Evanuris were dictators and likely Solas' rebellion was not unjustified we are still only getting one side of the story. The elves have remembered the Evanuris as broadly benevolent gods, which (even taking into account the loss of information) seems unlikely if they were nothing but relentless tyrants. I can see elven history whitewashing their memory but not doing a complete one-eighty on them. This is supported by the records in the library from ''Trespasser,'' in which the elves of Arlathan don't come across as oppressed or downtrodden. Oddly, based on the evidence, the best modern Thedas society as a match for Arlathan would be Tevinter, something Dorian comments on at one point. It looks like there was an often brutally oppressed slave caste and a near all-powerful upper class that got everything their way but most elves lived perfectly comfortable lives, indeed probably better than most peasants of modern Thedas due to magical convenience. After all there must be something pretty good to that society that Solas is willing to go to such insane lengths and risk the return of his greatest enemies in order to bring it back.]]
back.



During the Descent DLC, you encounter the Gates of Segrummar, several locked gates with rambling writing by an odd cultist. The writing is weird, as the writer refers to carvings as 'wounds to heal', which would seem to indicate he either worships the Stone or the Titan beneath. However, in a later entry, he also writes that he 'stood in the Fade', indicating that he is a mage. As we've seen with Sandal though, the two are not neccesarily exclusive. And coincidentally, the writer of the Gates segments just happens to have 'sacrificed' his son, 'destroying him' in some unspecificed way, in a thaig that was both acessible from the surface, and had seals against Darkspawn, making it a perfect place for Bodahn to try to loot.

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During the Descent DLC, you encounter the Gates of Segrummar, several locked gates with rambling writing by an odd cultist. The writing is weird, as the writer refers to carvings as 'wounds to heal', which would seem to indicate he either worships the Stone or the Titan beneath. However, in a later entry, he also writes that he 'stood in the Fade', indicating that he is a mage. As we've seen with Sandal though, the two are not neccesarily necessarily exclusive. And coincidentally, the writer of the Gates segments just happens to have 'sacrificed' his son, 'destroying him' in some unspecificed way, in a thaig that was both acessible from the surface, and had seals against Darkspawn, making it a perfect place for Bodahn to try to loot.



* The Elven Fanatic being the female elf from Act II who stole what she thought was gaatlok (but was really the poison saar-qamek) from the Qunari and framed Javaris Tintop for it. If you look at the scene where you confront her from a post-''Trespasser'' viewpoint, she ticks a lot of the boxes for being one of Fen'Harel's agents. Though Fen'Harel himself was still sleeping at this point, he makes it clear in ''Trespasser'' that his agents were still active, since they [[spoiler:ensured Corypheus' Venatori agents would find the Orb a year before Solas actually woke up]]. First off, the Fanatic ''hates'' the Qun with a fiery passion, [[spoiler:just as Solas does in Inquisition]]. She also rails about how the Qun is attracting a lot of elven converts, causing them to forsake their heritage and culture [[spoiler: which is something Solas probably also would be angry about, given his stated goals from ''Trespasser'' to return the elves to their former glory.]] Viscount Dumar also makes vague noises afterwards about how she probably belonged to or was being manipulated by some shadowy group he would be forced to appease, which seems to foreshadow her involvement with the Dread Wolf. While it's unlikely [[spoiler:Solas]] would have approve of her plan (which was basically domestic terrorism made worse by the fact that she didn't realize she had gotten poison gas instead of explosives, which even she is freaked out by), it's possible her actions were not authorized by whatever superiors she reported to (if any) and was simply an act of extremism due to her blinding hatred of the Qunari. I would not be surprised if in the fourth game there isn't some throwaway nod to one of Fen'Harel's agents taking a more active stand against the Qunari in Kirkwall during the events of II or something else along those lines.

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* The Elven Fanatic being the female elf from Act II who stole what she thought was gaatlok (but was really the poison saar-qamek) from the Qunari and framed Javaris Tintop for it. If you look at the scene where you confront her from a post-''Trespasser'' viewpoint, she ticks a lot of the boxes for being one of Fen'Harel's agents. Though Fen'Harel himself was still sleeping at this point, he makes it clear in ''Trespasser'' that his agents were still active, since they [[spoiler:ensured ensured Corypheus' Venatori agents would find the Orb a year before Solas actually woke up]]. up. First off, the Fanatic ''hates'' the Qun with a fiery passion, [[spoiler:just just as Solas does in Inquisition]]. Inquisition. She also rails about how the Qun is attracting a lot of elven converts, causing them to forsake their heritage and culture [[spoiler: which is something Solas probably also would be angry about, given his stated goals from ''Trespasser'' to return the elves to their former glory.]] glory. Viscount Dumar also makes vague noises afterwards about how she probably belonged to or was being manipulated by some shadowy group he would be forced to appease, which seems to foreshadow her involvement with the Dread Wolf. While it's unlikely [[spoiler:Solas]] Solas would have approve of her plan (which was basically domestic terrorism made worse by the fact that she didn't realize she had gotten poison gas instead of explosives, which even she is freaked out by), it's possible her actions were not authorized by whatever superiors she reported to (if any) and was simply an act of extremism due to her blinding hatred of the Qunari. I would not be surprised if in the fourth game there isn't some throwaway nod to one of Fen'Harel's agents taking a more active stand against the Qunari in Kirkwall during the events of II or something else along those lines.



* Elgar'nan, elven god of vengeance and the sun, corresponds to both Asuryan and Khaine. The vengence aspect, and overall personality of Elgar'nan resemble more Khaine's, but his connection to the sun and fatherhood, as well as being the pantheons leader, are more corresponding to Asuryan. As Khaine and Asuryan are viewed often as twin brothers, it's possible that overtime, Elgar'nan split into Asuryan and Khaine.

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* Elgar'nan, elven god of vengeance and the sun, corresponds to both Asuryan and Khaine. The vengence vengeance aspect, and overall personality of Elgar'nan resemble more Khaine's, but his connection to the sun and fatherhood, as well as being the pantheons leader, are more corresponding to Asuryan. As Khaine and Asuryan are viewed often as twin brothers, it's possible that overtime, Elgar'nan split into Asuryan and Khaine.



June also seemed not particularly vicious, there not being particular descriptions of cruelulity like of other of Evanuris, mirroring Vaul also being one of the nicer gods.

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June also seemed not particularly vicious, there not being particular descriptions of cruelulity cruelty like of other of Evanuris, mirroring Vaul also being one of the nicer gods.



* Dirthamen may be Morr, especially his probably older, elven version Sarriel. Both Sarriel/Morr and Dirthamen are gods of sleep and dreams, brothers to gods of death(Khaine for Sarriel, and Falon'Din for Dirthamen), and both are associated with Ravens. Alternatelly, Dirthamen may be a male version of Lilieath, the goddess of dreams, or possibly Morai-Heg, goddess of Prophecy. Another possibility is that Dirthamen, Sarriel/Morr, Morai-Heg and Lileath, are different forms or descriptions of the same being.\\
Yet another possibility, is that Dirthamen is Hoeth, as both are Gods of Knowledge.
* If Dirthamen is Morr/Sarriel, then Falon'Din very probably is Khaine, with Khaine being the brother of Sarriel, and Falon'Din is the brother of Dirthamen. Both Khaine and Falon'din are gods of Death, and it was revealed Falon'Din was similarly vicious to Khaine, and like him, caused wars. Falon'Din had also a conflict with Mythal, similarity to Khaine having a conflict with Isha.\\
** Alternately Falon'Din is Sarriel/Morr, and Dirathamen is Lileath, as both fit those roles, and Sarriel/Morr was more often named the god of dead/death, rather than Khaine.

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* Dirthamen may be Morr, especially his probably older, elven version Sarriel. Both Sarriel/Morr and Dirthamen are gods of sleep and dreams, brothers to gods of death(Khaine for Sarriel, and Falon'Din for Dirthamen), and both are associated with Ravens. Alternatelly, Alternately, Dirthamen may be a male version of Lilieath, the goddess of dreams, or possibly Morai-Heg, goddess of Prophecy. Another possibility is that Dirthamen, Sarriel/Morr, Morai-Heg and Lileath, are different forms or descriptions of the same being.\\
Yet another possibility, possibility is that Dirthamen is Hoeth, as both are Gods of Knowledge.
* If Dirthamen is Morr/Sarriel, then Falon'Din very probably is Khaine, with Khaine being the brother of Sarriel, and Falon'Din is the brother of Dirthamen. Both Khaine and Falon'din are gods of Death, and it was revealed Falon'Din was similarly vicious to Khaine, and like him, caused wars. Falon'Din had also a conflict with Mythal, similarity similar to Khaine having a conflict with Isha.\\
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** Alternately Falon'Din is Sarriel/Morr, and Dirathamen is Lileath, as both fit those roles, and Sarriel/Morr was more often named the god of dead/death, rather than Khaine.



[[WMG: Creator/LindseyStirling will be in the next game.]]

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In the fourth game, [[spoiler: Solas/Fen'Harel]] will instead occupy a role similar to the Architect in the plot: a third party wildcard element that you may or may not ally with, and may or may not be able to convince to work with you. The true antagonists will be the Evanuri, the elven god-like beings who were so drunk with power that they murdered the only one among them sane enough to clean up their excesses when they harmed others. The Veil must fall to enact Spoilery Character's plan to eliminate them, but what happens afterwards depends on how you handle Spoilery Character. Their relationship status (lover/friend/foe) and with the Inquisitor and fate of the Inquisition (Scaled down/"disbanded") will be two factors in how Spoilery Character regards the current world, much like how previous actions concerning the Quarians in ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' were a factor in feasibility of Geth reconciliation in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''.
* The two defining choices (Whether striving to redeem or kill Spoiler, whether to dismantle of scale down the Inquisition) will interact with one another easting of simply being plus/minus values on a single axis: If the Inquisitor vowed to kill Spoiler, they'll view the Inquisitor's associates as threat, and keeping the Inquisition around will backfire by providing Spoiler with more opportunities to infiltrate their organization and sabotage their work, making dismantling the best choice. If on the other hand the Inquisitor vowed to redeem Spoiler, they won't be able to bring themselves to actively work against their friend, and should the Inquisition still exist, Spoiler will find ways to indirectly assist it, making scaling down the best choice in this case.

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In the fourth game, [[spoiler: Solas/Fen'Harel]] Solas/Fen'Harel will instead occupy a role similar to the Architect in the plot: a third party wildcard element that you may or may not ally with, and may or may not be able to convince to work with you. The true antagonists will be the Evanuri, the elven god-like beings who were so drunk with power that they murdered the only one among them sane enough to clean up their excesses when they harmed others. The Veil must fall to enact Spoilery Character's Solas's plan to eliminate them, but what happens afterwards depends on how you handle Spoilery Character. Solas. Their relationship status (lover/friend/foe) and with the Inquisitor and fate of the Inquisition (Scaled down/"disbanded") will be two factors in how Spoilery Character Solas regards the current world, much like how previous actions concerning the Quarians in ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' were a factor in feasibility of Geth reconciliation in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''.
* The two defining choices (Whether striving to redeem or kill Spoiler, Solas, whether to dismantle of scale down the Inquisition) will interact with one another easting of simply being plus/minus values on a single axis: If the Inquisitor vowed to kill Spoiler, Solas, they'll view the Inquisitor's associates as threat, and keeping the Inquisition around will backfire by providing Spoiler Solas with more opportunities to infiltrate their organization and sabotage their work, making dismantling the best choice. If on the other hand the Inquisitor vowed to redeem Spoiler, Solas, they won't be able to bring themselves to actively work against their friend, and should the Inquisition still exist, Spoiler Solas will find ways to indirectly assist it, making scaling down the best choice in this case.



* In DA:O, a Dalish Warden's first encounter with Darkspawn is through an Eluvian, when Tamlen strongly implies seeing the Archdemon themself through the glass. Later, the Darkspawn flood the ruins. This suggests that the Darkspawn have overrun the Crossroads. Fourteen years later, the Crossroads are deserted. This has never been expanded on or explained in any of the games.
* The Archdemons are *clearly* in the Deep Roads, but [[spoiler:Solas explicitly states they're banished to the other side of the Fade]].

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* In DA:O, ''DA:O'', a Dalish Warden's first encounter with Darkspawn is through an Eluvian, when Tamlen strongly implies seeing the Archdemon themself through the glass. Later, the Darkspawn flood the ruins. This suggests that the Darkspawn have overrun the Crossroads. Fourteen years later, the Crossroads are deserted. This has never been expanded on or explained in any of the games.
* The Archdemons are *clearly* in the Deep Roads, but [[spoiler:Solas Solas explicitly states they're banished to the other side of the Fade]].Fade.



* Trespasser establishes that there are [[spoiler:Eluvians in the Deep Roads]].

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The series ''loves'' spiders to the point a RomanceOption for the fourth game with one is not completely out of the question. Australia is home to the most dangerous and aggressive one there is, as well as the iconic Huntsman. Moreover a quick look at UsefulNotes/AustralianWildlife shows all manner of creatures, animals and predators that could easily be adapted into the game, instead of TwentyBearAsses you need five platypus beaks for example and have to contend with it's unique poison. There's all manner of unique flora and fauna and the wilderness ranges from the wetlands of Tasmania and Victoria to the beautiful temperate South Australia and the arid wastelands of the Northern Territory. Being AussiesWithArtillery they would make powerful allies. It's government is a modern day DecadentCourt and the end of ''Trespasser'' has Inquisitor imagining finding allies [[spoiler: Solas/Dread Wolf]] doesn't know: Tevinter looks like a safe bet to be one of the places s/he will search but where else could they try? Which could mean either a HellYes moment or OhCrap if he does indeed know them.

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The series ''loves'' spiders to the point a RomanceOption for the fourth game with one is not completely out of the question. Australia is home to the most dangerous and aggressive one there is, as well as the iconic Huntsman. Moreover a quick look at UsefulNotes/AustralianWildlife shows all manner of creatures, animals and predators that could easily be adapted into the game, instead of TwentyBearAsses you need five platypus beaks for example and have to contend with it's unique poison. There's all manner of unique flora and fauna and the wilderness ranges from the wetlands of Tasmania and Victoria to the beautiful temperate South Australia and the arid wastelands of the Northern Territory. Being AussiesWithArtillery UsefulNotes/AussiesWithArtillery they would make powerful allies. It's Its government is a modern day DecadentCourt and the end of ''Trespasser'' has Inquisitor imagining finding allies [[spoiler: Solas/Dread Wolf]] Wolf doesn't know: Tevinter looks like a safe bet to be one of the places s/he will search but where else could they try? Which could mean either a HellYes moment or OhCrap if he does indeed know them.



After finding out that [[spoiler: Solas intends to kill everyone in order to tear down the Veil]], and with Cole being a spirit that manifested a human body, and the spirit of [[spoiler: Divine Justinia]] who may or may not have been the real thing, there's a lot to suggest that the souls of sentient life on Thedas and the spirits of the Fade aren't actually very different from each other as a spirital "species", as it were. Mages draw from the Fade to produce magic, and it ''is'' possible to be present in the Fade physically, implying that mortals actually do have the ability (or the right, possibly) to exist on both planes, with each type being disoriented and disturbed by crossing into the other's world.

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After finding out that [[spoiler: Solas intends to kill everyone in order to tear down the Veil]], Veil, and with Cole being a spirit that manifested a human body, and the spirit of [[spoiler: Divine Justinia]] Justinia who may or may not have been the real thing, there's a lot to suggest that the souls of sentient life on Thedas and the spirits of the Fade aren't actually very different from each other as a spirital "species", as it were. Mages draw from the Fade to produce magic, and it ''is'' possible to be present in the Fade physically, implying that mortals actually do have the ability (or the right, possibly) to exist on both planes, with each type being disoriented and disturbed by crossing into the other's world.



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** Velanna, maybe. Merrill, probably not; it'd take some serious doing to convince [[AllLovingHero her]] to side with the guy whose goal involves mass murder.




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** As discussed above, it'd be pretty unlikely for Fenris, who heavily distrusts mages, to ally with Mr. 'Let's-Bring-All-Magic-Back-Again', ''especially'' since it's going to result in at very least genocide of non-mages.
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*** As of ''Trespasser'', confirmed.[[spoiler: Cole at one point says in his own cryptic way that Solas killed Felassan because Felassan was starting to sympathize with modern elves.]]
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* Xebenkeck has similarities to Slaanesh, as Xebenkeck appears as a [[HornyDevils Desire Demon]],\\

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** Assuming the Wardens don't KillEmAll to prevent spread of the Blight. Swooping '''[[CallBack is]]''' bad, after all.

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** Assuming the Wardens don't KillEmAll kill them all to prevent spread of the Blight. Swooping '''[[CallBack is]]''' bad, after all.



** The fate of [[spoiler: [[TheExile Merrill's]] [[KillEmAll clan.]]]]

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* Jossed [[AscendedMeme with particular gusto]]- you have to craft the Murder Knife (yes, that is its ''[[UpToEleven actual name]]'') in order to unlock the Assassin specialization.

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[[WMG: You, the player, are The Maker]]
Who is it that controls the main characters and, by extension, decides the fate of Thedas? Us, The Maker. It's heavily implied (and all but confirmed in Origins) that the other origin characters in both Origins and Inquisition existed and only the character we chose survived to become the Warden/Herald. Why? Because we, The Maker, chose them to carry out our will. The Black City was empty because we, The Maker, can't exist within a video game. It makes Leliana wondering whether The Maker deserves to be worshipped a subtle TakeThat at the audience.

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* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}. [[VideoGame/DawnOfWar For the Empress!]]

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* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}.TabletopGame/Warhammer40000. [[VideoGame/DawnOfWar For the Empress!]]



** Other possibility: they do things like in [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Genealogy of the Holy War]]: make [[spoiler: Kieran an important Teammate]] but also introduce [[spoiler: a replacement character to take his role if he was not conceived: if Kieran exists, this character is a NPC and perhaps the HeroOfAnotherStory, otherwise, he joins the party as one of the mages]]

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** Other possibility: they do things like in [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the Holy War]]: War]]'': make [[spoiler: Kieran an important Teammate]] but also introduce [[spoiler: a replacement character to take his role if he was not conceived: if Kieran exists, this character is a NPC and perhaps the HeroOfAnotherStory, otherwise, he joins the party as one of the mages]]
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The series ''loves'' spiders to the point a RomanceOption for the fourth game with one is not completely out of the question. Australia is home to the most dangerous and aggressive one there is, as well as the iconic Huntsman. Moreover a quick look at UsefulNotes/AustralianWildlife shows all manner of creatures, animals and predators that could easily be adapted into the game, instead of TwentyBearAsses you need five platypus beaks for example and have to contend with it's unique poison. There's all manner of unique flora and fauna and the wilderness ranges from the wetlands of Tasmania and Victoria to the beautiful temperate South Australia and the arid wastelands of the Northern Territory. Being AussiesWithArtillery they would make powerful allies. It's government is a modern day DeadlyDecadentCourt and the end of ''Trespasser'' has Inquisitor imagining finding allies [[spoiler: Solas/Dread Wolf]] doesn't know: Tevinter looks like a safe bet to be one of the places s/he will search but where else could they try? Which could mean either a HellYes moment or OhCrap if he does indeed know them.

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The series ''loves'' spiders to the point a RomanceOption for the fourth game with one is not completely out of the question. Australia is home to the most dangerous and aggressive one there is, as well as the iconic Huntsman. Moreover a quick look at UsefulNotes/AustralianWildlife shows all manner of creatures, animals and predators that could easily be adapted into the game, instead of TwentyBearAsses you need five platypus beaks for example and have to contend with it's unique poison. There's all manner of unique flora and fauna and the wilderness ranges from the wetlands of Tasmania and Victoria to the beautiful temperate South Australia and the arid wastelands of the Northern Territory. Being AussiesWithArtillery they would make powerful allies. It's government is a modern day DeadlyDecadentCourt DecadentCourt and the end of ''Trespasser'' has Inquisitor imagining finding allies [[spoiler: Solas/Dread Wolf]] doesn't know: Tevinter looks like a safe bet to be one of the places s/he will search but where else could they try? Which could mean either a HellYes moment or OhCrap if he does indeed know them.
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** However, there is an Easter Egg in Trespasser, where one can find Sandal's diary, together with some runes and an upgrade station. The diary, of course, contains nothing but repetitions of "Enchantment!" with varying punctuation.




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** I would reverse June and Ghilan'nain. June was more broadly the god of work and (interestingly) unity: he "taught" the Elves crafts by enslaving and forcing them to labor. Ghilan'nain was the mother of the, indeed the first, beautiful halla. I wouldn't worry about the gender issue too much; RW mythologies can be flexible there too!
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[[WMG: Fenris (whose name was foreshadowing all along) already works for Solas.]]

Because it'd be next to impossible for Solas to ''not'' know about the lyrium-tattooed former slave with a real bone to pick with the Tevinter slave trade. Given how much Fenris hates slavery and the Magisters, he'd be a perfect operative for Solas' interests in the north. And how could the ''Dread Wolf'' possibly pass up the chance to have an agent named ''Fenris''?

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She often speaks of Andraste as if she has personal experience in the matter, which would make perfect sense if it turns out she's the prophet herself. Her critique of modern Chantry dogma could be because she knows they're misinterpreting her own teachings rather than her just being a more liberal cleric than most. Consider also how convenient her presence is at times and how subtly important her role is (e.g. The Dawn Will Come). Is she intentionally guiding the Inquisition towards fixing what a thousand years of what misguided men and zealots misinterpreting her message has wrought (in addition to stopping the Elder One, of course)?

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She often speaks of Andraste as if she has personal experience in the matter, which would make perfect sense if it turns out she's the prophet herself. Her critique of modern Chantry dogma could be because she knows they're misinterpreting her own teachings rather than her just being a more liberal cleric than most. Consider also how convenient her presence is at times and how subtly important her role is (e.g. The Dawn Will Come). Is she intentionally guiding the Inquisition towards fixing what a thousand years of what misguided men and zealots misinterpreting her message has wrought (in addition to stopping the Elder One, of course)?

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[[WMG: Velanna left the notes found in Wardens of the Coast]]
The Storm Coast isn't far from Vigil's Keep, so I was assuming the group that had been rumored to be in the area were the Vigil's Keep crew - especially since "Vigilance on the Coast" is the title of the quest. The notes are pretty clearly written by a Dailish warden. I just think it would be neat if it was Velanna.

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* Not a bad thought as a concept but I doubt it, for narrative reasons. For a fantasy story this is a little too scientific in it's approach. Plus the Titans are so fundamentally alien to a human viewpoint that they cannot even communicate in any direct sense and a story needs a relatable villain. Even [[MassEffect the Reapers]] could at least talk to you. Also this doesn't explain where the Blight originated.


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* Not a bad thought as a concept but I doubt it, for narrative reasons. For a fantasy story this is a little too scientific in it's approach. Plus the Titans are so fundamentally alien to a human viewpoint that they cannot even communicate in any direct sense and a story needs a relatable villain. Even [[MassEffect [[Franchise/MassEffect the Reapers]] could at least talk to you. Also this doesn't explain where the Blight originated.




[[WMG: The Inquisitor is a descendant of [[Series/MassEffect Commander Shepard]].]]

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[[WMG: the templar recruit in Cullen’s drunk story was Alistair.]]
It would explain why he really wanted out of there, and how he got Duncan’s attention.

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[[WMG: Corypheus was lying when he told Hawke that the city was black when the magisters arrived.]]
[[spoiler: Just before the Inquisitor rips the orb from his hands, Corypheus, in his panicked ranting, says "I have walked the halls of the GOLDEN City, crossed the ages . . ." A slip of the tongue? Or an accidental admission that he was lying when he told Hawke that the city was already black when the magisters arrived? If the halls of the city were black when he was there, why would he call them golden, especially in an unguarded moment like that?]]

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