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28th Oct '17 1:39:44 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG:Josephine will be the Dragon Age setting's ChristopherColumbus.]]

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[[WMG:Josephine will be the Dragon Age setting's ChristopherColumbus.UsefulNotes/ChristopherColumbus.]]
25th Oct '17 3:26:24 AM GriffinPilgrim
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[[spoiler: There is no evidence so far that the Evanuris and the eventer Old Gods are connected.]]

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* [[spoiler: There In any case there is no evidence so far that the Evanuris and the eventer Tevinter Old Gods are connected.]]
25th Oct '17 3:22:40 AM GriffinPilgrim
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* Hard to say however whether such things are indicative of something in-universe or just the narrative flow of the story.




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[[spoiler: There is no evidence so far that the Evanuris and the eventer Old Gods are connected.]]
25th Oct '17 3:16:38 AM GriffinPilgrim
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** [[spoiler: Not all, not even close to all, just some. Indeed on Cole's personal mission Solas is very clear that he sees spirits and mortals as two very different things so I doubt he'd want to blur the lines himself. And indeed him being a spirit would rather torpedo the Elven gods plotline.]]
17th Sep '17 10:01:38 AM nombretomado
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The series ''loves'' spiders to the point a RomanceOption for the fourth game with one is not completely out of the question. Australia is home to the most dangerous and aggressive one there is, as well as the iconic Huntsman. Moreover a quick look at AustralianWildlife shows all manner of creatures, animals and predators that could easily be adapted into the game, instead of TwentyBearAsses you need five platypus beaks for example and have to contend with it's unique poison. There's all manner of unique flora and fauna and the wilderness ranges from the wetlands of Tasmania and Victoria to the beautiful temperate South Australia and the arid wastelands of the Northern Territory. Being AussiesWithArtillery they would make powerful allies. It's government is a modern day DeadlyDecadentCourt and the end of ''Trespasser'' has Inquisitor imagining finding allies [[spoiler: Solas/Dread Wolf]] doesn't know: Tevinter looks like a safe bet to be one of the places s/he will search but where else could they try? Which could mean either a HellYes moment or OhCrap if he does indeed know them.

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The series ''loves'' spiders to the point a RomanceOption for the fourth game with one is not completely out of the question. Australia is home to the most dangerous and aggressive one there is, as well as the iconic Huntsman. Moreover a quick look at AustralianWildlife UsefulNotes/AustralianWildlife shows all manner of creatures, animals and predators that could easily be adapted into the game, instead of TwentyBearAsses you need five platypus beaks for example and have to contend with it's unique poison. There's all manner of unique flora and fauna and the wilderness ranges from the wetlands of Tasmania and Victoria to the beautiful temperate South Australia and the arid wastelands of the Northern Territory. Being AussiesWithArtillery they would make powerful allies. It's government is a modern day DeadlyDecadentCourt and the end of ''Trespasser'' has Inquisitor imagining finding allies [[spoiler: Solas/Dread Wolf]] doesn't know: Tevinter looks like a safe bet to be one of the places s/he will search but where else could they try? Which could mean either a HellYes moment or OhCrap if he does indeed know them.
10th Sep '17 9:40:09 AM nombretomado
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** [[FeliciaDay Tallis]]'s relationship to Hawke and The Heart of The Many.

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** [[FeliciaDay [[Creator/FeliciaDay Tallis]]'s relationship to Hawke and The Heart of The Many.
31st Aug '17 5:26:57 PM HalcyonDayz
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It seems that ''[=DA2=]'' was the build up to an epic final battle that DA3 might deliver. What's a big battle without allies? Like Qunari (led by Sten or the Arishok if they're still alive) vs The Tevinter Magisters. Scenarios like this will lead to examples of mutually exclusive party members, like if you choose the Magisters you get Feynriel, but if you side with the Qunari you get Tallis.

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It seems that ''[=DA2=]'' ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' was the build up to an epic final battle that DA3 might deliver. What's a big battle without allies? Like Qunari (led by Sten or the Arishok if they're still alive) vs The Tevinter Magisters. Scenarios like this will lead to examples of mutually exclusive party members, like if you choose the Magisters you get Feynriel, but if you side with the Qunari you get Tallis.



Basically what the title says. Each companion will have a class skill tree unique to them (a la ''[=DA2=]'') and will, after a certain checkpoint in friendship or personal quest, teach that class to the Inquisitor (a la ''Origins''). Which class goes to which companion is a bit murky, though. My thoughts:

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Basically what the title says. Each companion will have a class skill tree unique to them (a la ''[=DA2=]'') ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'') and will, after a certain checkpoint in friendship or personal quest, teach that class to the Inquisitor (a la ''Origins''). Which class goes to which companion is a bit murky, though. My thoughts:



In every new Dragon Age campaign we have one party member that was a companion of a hero of previous game - in Awakening we had Oghren. In DA2 - Anders, and in Inquisition Varric. We can say with some confidence that we will get someone familiar also in a next game - romanceable characters are out for obvious reasons, Varric was already in 2 games, Vivienne can potentially [[spoiler:become Divine]], so she will probably be too busy, so that leaves us Cole.

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In every new Dragon Age campaign we have one party member that was a companion of a hero of previous game - in Awakening we had Oghren. In DA2 VideoGame/DragonAgeII - Anders, and in Inquisition Varric. We can say with some confidence that we will get someone familiar also in a next game - romanceable characters are out for obvious reasons, Varric was already in 2 games, Vivienne can potentially [[spoiler:become Divine]], so she will probably be too busy, so that leaves us Cole.



After playing DA2 and noticing Justice!Anders's blue sparkly glowy powers [[spoiler: and the color of Solas/Flemeth's eyes when invoking their Mythal-given powers]] spirits might actually be somehow related to the Old Gods as well as the elven pantheon, rather than just the Maker as the Chant dictates.[[spoiler: Especially since Mythal seems to be a goddess of justice and protection turned to vengeful force. Sort of like Justice him/itself.]]


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After playing DA2 VideoGame/DragonAgeII and noticing Justice!Anders's blue sparkly glowy powers [[spoiler: and the color of Solas/Flemeth's eyes when invoking their Mythal-given powers]] spirits might actually be somehow related to the Old Gods as well as the elven pantheon, rather than just the Maker as the Chant dictates.[[spoiler: Especially since Mythal seems to be a goddess of justice and protection turned to vengeful force. Sort of like Justice him/itself.]]




** Alternatively, we'll have a separate dwarf character carry over from each installment. Oghren carried over from DAO to DAA, Bodahn and Sandal carried over from DAO to DA2, and Varric carried over from DA2 to DAI. Perhaps Harding will carry over from DAI to DA4. In any event, Varric expresses interest in returning to Kirkwall to help rebuild after the Inquisition is done with it's work, and the next game is likely going to be set a considerable distance north. So unless Varric's visiting Maevaris or checking on that beat plantation he half-owns, I don't see him making the trip.

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** Alternatively, we'll have a separate dwarf character carry over from each installment. Oghren carried over from DAO to DAA, Bodahn and Sandal carried over from DAO to DA2, [=DA2=], and Varric carried over from DA2 [=DA2=] to DAI. Perhaps Harding will carry over from DAI to DA4.[=DA4=]. In any event, Varric expresses interest in returning to Kirkwall to help rebuild after the Inquisition is done with it's work, and the next game is likely going to be set a considerable distance north. So unless Varric's visiting Maevaris or checking on that beat plantation he half-owns, I don't see him making the trip.



[[spoiler:That seems like anů oddly specific solution to bring up for the sake of snark. We already know that the Orb can be used to punch a hole through the Veil, but perhaps with enough power, along with a few dozen artifacts sprinkled around Thedas, it could be used to tear the whole thing down entirely. And then there's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwa-mKETJW0 Sandal's creepy prophecy]] at the end of [=DA2=]. There's a lot of speculation that it was a prediction of the events in Inquisition, but the comparison falls apart unless you disregard the entire first half of his speech. After all, magic didn't come back, and no one is "just like they were" (Whoever "they" are supposed to be. Ancient elves, perhaps?). Which means that the prophecy is still on, as far as we know. And shadows parting? Skies opening wide? All the magic returning? That sounds a lot like someone's about to go screwing with the fabric of reality. And by endgame, Solas is the person with the most ominous mysterious agenda.]]

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[[spoiler:That seems like anů oddly specific solution to bring up for the sake of snark. We already know that the Orb can be used to punch a hole through the Veil, but perhaps with enough power, along with a few dozen artifacts sprinkled around Thedas, it could be used to tear the whole thing down entirely. And then there's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwa-mKETJW0 Sandal's creepy prophecy]] at the end of [=DA2=].VideoGame/DragonAgeII. There's a lot of speculation that it was a prediction of the events in Inquisition, but the comparison falls apart unless you disregard the entire first half of his speech. After all, magic didn't come back, and no one is "just like they were" (Whoever "they" are supposed to be. Ancient elves, perhaps?). Which means that the prophecy is still on, as far as we know. And shadows parting? Skies opening wide? All the magic returning? That sounds a lot like someone's about to go screwing with the fabric of reality. And by endgame, Solas is the person with the most ominous mysterious agenda.]]



* [[spoiler: Maybe the first one but I very much doubt that Fenris would be with Solas. First, for character reasons; Fenris is broadly Andrastian in his beliefs so he won't like Solas as a god and we know how he feels about mages, so whichever way one views Solas Fenris will not like him. Second, for story construction reasons; the series has yet to force us to kill a former companion, even when it might be something you could see happening, like Sten in DA2 or ''Trespasser.'' We've been given the option but never forced into it. Third, relationship reasons; if Hawke survives ''Here Lies The Abyss'' Varric says that their love interest (if any) and surviving sibling will certainly follow them. As of the ''Tresasser'' epilogue we know a surviving Hawke is back in Kirkwall. Relevance? Well, this means that, if romanced, Fenris is back with Hawke and highly unlikely to follow some stranger on a crusade. And that would be overly favouring one world state. Finally the biggest reason why Fenris would not follow Solas is because Solas' aim is utterly antithetical to Fenris' beliefs and view of the world. Solas wants to burn the world in order to make it more magical. Fenris despises magic in all it's forms and believes that it's mere existence corrupts the world. These are not two people likely to get on.]]

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* [[spoiler: Maybe the first one but I very much doubt that Fenris would be with Solas. First, for character reasons; Fenris is broadly Andrastian in his beliefs so he won't like Solas as a god and we know how he feels about mages, so whichever way one views Solas Fenris will not like him. Second, for story construction reasons; the series has yet to force us to kill a former companion, even when it might be something you could see happening, like Sten in DA2 VideoGame/DragonAgeII or ''Trespasser.'' We've been given the option but never forced into it. Third, relationship reasons; if Hawke survives ''Here Lies The Abyss'' Varric says that their love interest (if any) and surviving sibling will certainly follow them. As of the ''Tresasser'' epilogue we know a surviving Hawke is back in Kirkwall. Relevance? Well, this means that, if romanced, Fenris is back with Hawke and highly unlikely to follow some stranger on a crusade. And that would be overly favouring one world state. Finally the biggest reason why Fenris would not follow Solas is because Solas' aim is utterly antithetical to Fenris' beliefs and view of the world. Solas wants to burn the world in order to make it more magical. Fenris despises magic in all it's forms and believes that it's mere existence corrupts the world. These are not two people likely to get on.]]
27th Aug '17 4:14:17 PM nombretomado
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** Also they'd have to recast if they're keeping the accent changes with DAII. So say goodbye to your YuriLowenthal voiced male Dalish elf.

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** Also they'd have to recast if they're keeping the accent changes with DAII. So say goodbye to your YuriLowenthal Creator/YuriLowenthal voiced male Dalish elf.



[[WMG: YuriLowenthal will be in this game.]]
Either because he's been in every game of the franchise and most of the DLC or because YuriLowenthal is in everything.

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[[WMG: YuriLowenthal Creator/YuriLowenthal will be in this game.]]
Either because he's been in every game of the franchise and most of the DLC or because YuriLowenthal Yuri Lowenthal is in everything.
16th Jun '17 10:07:09 PM LadyNorbert
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I've noticed some patterns in the history of the DA universe. First is the one between Andraste and Flemeth, as well as [[spoiler: Sharlatan and Solas]]. Both are known to only have daughters, they both share similiar designs, just look at the Andrastian and [[spoiler: Mythal]] iconography. Then we have [[spoiler: the freedom loving elf who partakes in the revolution against the ruling class and has a close bond to a powerful woman in the movement. Am I talking about Solas or Shartan?]]
* We also have the connection between the Old Gods and [[spoiler: the Titans]]. Both can be heard singing. One of the Old Gods in the Western Approach are said to sleep within a Thaig. Both have a presence in both the physical world and the Fade, since [[spoiler: Lyrium is found both in the Fade and the physical world and is the blood of the Titans]].

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I've noticed some patterns in the history of the DA universe. First is the one between Andraste and Flemeth, as well as [[spoiler: Sharlatan Shartan and Solas]]. Both are known to only have daughters, they both share similiar similar designs, just look at the Andrastian and [[spoiler: Mythal]] iconography. Then we have [[spoiler: the freedom loving freedom-loving elf who partakes in the revolution against the ruling class and has a close bond to a powerful woman in the movement. Am I talking about Solas or Shartan?]]
* We also have the connection between the Old Gods and [[spoiler: the Titans]]. Both can be heard singing. One of the Old Gods in the Western Approach are is said to sleep within a Thaig. Both have a presence in both the physical world and the Fade, since [[spoiler: Lyrium is found both in the Fade and the physical world and is the blood of the Titans]].



* As of Trespasser, we learn that [[spoiler:Solas banished the Evanuris into the Fade ''after'' they killed Mythal]].

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* As of Trespasser, ''Trespasser'', we learn that [[spoiler:Solas banished the Evanuris into the Fade ''after'' they killed Mythal]].



Much is made of the threat the Qunari pose to Thedas and (when they're the ones talking) the inevitability of their victory. But I contend that they are far less impressive than they are made out to be. First, every Qunari agent we've met has second thoughts or doubts and at least one (possibly two depending on what Tallis did next) can decide to leave. The Bull notes that the Qunari's leaders have not been able to satisfactorily explain why they lost the last war despite the fact that, according to their beliefs, following the Qun should have guaranteed victory. The evidence supports the idea that, despite gathering converts in some places, they are losing a lot of people to Tal-Vashoth; Tal-Vashoth are a constant problem on Seheron, they had to come up with a name for the descendants of those who left the Qun, proving that it doesn't always lead to madness and in Dragon Age 2 even the personal troops of the Arishock went Tal-Vashoth by the dozen. If Sten is the new Arishok the comics show him to still care too much about his friends to put the Qun over them. All this suggests a sense of doubt creeping into the heart of their supposedly unified society. This is also supported by the simple fact that it's been two centuries since the Llomeryn Accords and they haven't made a single advance in territory nor really made any effort to do so.

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Much is made of the threat the Qunari pose to Thedas and (when they're the ones talking) the inevitability of their victory. But I contend that they are far less impressive than they are made out to be. First, every Qunari agent we've met has second thoughts or doubts and at least one (possibly two two, depending on what Tallis did next) can decide to leave. The Bull notes that the Qunari's leaders have not been able to satisfactorily explain why they lost the last war despite the fact that, according to their beliefs, following the Qun should have guaranteed victory. The evidence supports the idea that, despite gathering converts in some places, they are losing a lot of people to Tal-Vashoth; Tal-Vashoth are a constant problem on Seheron, they had to come up with a name for the descendants of those who left the Qun, proving that it doesn't always lead to madness and in Dragon Age 2 even the personal troops of the Arishock went Tal-Vashoth by the dozen. If Sten is the new Arishok the comics show him to still care too much about his friends to put the Qun over them. All this suggests a sense of doubt creeping into the heart of their supposedly unified society. This is also supported by the simple fact that it's been two centuries since the Llomeryn Accords and they haven't made a single advance in territory nor really made any effort to do so.



There were 9 elven gods and 7 old gods. Two of the elven gods have been confirmed to still be around.

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There were 9 nine elven gods and 7 seven old gods. Two of the elven gods have been confirmed to still be around.



* Dumat, the Dragon of Silence and the archdemon of the First Blight=Dirthamon, the god of Secrets, who gave the elves the gift of knowledge. May match up with Dumat giving away knowledge of blood magic. Zazikel, the Dragon of Chaos and the archdemon of the Second Blight=Anduil, who's codax in Mythal's temple says she went mad, known as "blood and force." Toth, the Dragon of Fire and the archdemon of the Third Blight=Elgar'nan, god of the sun (fire?) and vengeance. Sylaise, the harthkeeper<-fire. She gave the elves fire and taught them to heal. Andoral, the Dragon of Slaves and the archdemon of the Fourth Blight=June, the god of crafts. Slaves would be in charge of doing such work one would think. Urthemiel, the Dragon of Beauty and the archdemon of the Fifth Blight=Sylaise, god of domestic arts. Sister to Andruil. Razikale, the Dragon of Mystery=Dirthamen, the keeper of secrets. Lusacan, the Dragon of Night= Falon'Din, the god of the Beyond and twin to Dirthamen. Mythal, who is Flemeth and Solas, who is Fen'Harel. Ghilan'nain is harder to place as the mother of monsters and halla, and goddess of navigation. Night, on a stretch. Chaos, as something that monsters cause. Slaves, as she may have once been one before being raised to goddess-hood.

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* Dumat, the Dragon of Silence and the archdemon of the First Blight=Dirthamon, the god of Secrets, who gave the elves the gift of knowledge. May match up with Dumat giving away knowledge of blood magic. Zazikel, the Dragon of Chaos and the archdemon of the Second Blight=Anduil, who's codax Blight=Andruil, whose codex in Mythal's temple says she went mad, known as "blood and force." Toth, the Dragon of Fire and the archdemon of the Third Blight=Elgar'nan, god of the sun (fire?) and vengeance. Sylaise, the harthkeeper<-fire. She gave the elves fire and taught them to heal. Andoral, the Dragon of Slaves and the archdemon of the Fourth Blight=June, the god of crafts. Slaves would be in charge of doing such work one would think. Urthemiel, the Dragon of Beauty and the archdemon of the Fifth Blight=Sylaise, god of domestic arts. Sister to Andruil. Razikale, the Dragon of Mystery=Dirthamen, the keeper of secrets. Lusacan, the Dragon of Night= Falon'Din, the god of the Beyond and twin to Dirthamen. Mythal, who is Flemeth and Solas, who is Fen'Harel. Ghilan'nain is harder to place as the mother of monsters and halla, and goddess of navigation. Night, on a stretch. Chaos, as something that monsters cause. Slaves, as she may have once been one before being raised to goddess-hood.




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** No more DLC and, unfortunately, no Oghren.



* [[Series/MontyPythonsFlyingCircus The one nobody expects.]] Their chief weapon is surprise... surprise and fear... fear and surprise.... ''Amongst'' their weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Divine. And nice uniforms of yet-TBA color and design.

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* [[Series/MontyPythonsFlyingCircus The one nobody expects.]] Their chief weapon is surprise... surprise and fear... fear and surprise....surprise... ''Amongst'' their weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Divine. And nice uniforms of yet-TBA color and design.



* Jossed, well at least when it comes to fangirling over Hawke, however it ''does'' when she gets a fangirl moment... over Varric's romance novels.

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* Jossed, well at least when it comes to fangirling over Hawke, however it Hawke; however, she ''does'' when she gets get a fangirl moment... over Varric's romance novels.



* Another possibility is that both propositions are true: Alistair is the son of Maric and a maid from Redcliffe Castle, and Fiona did have a child with Maric,.. who's not Alistair, thus introducing another Theirin heir and therefore more political/family drama, because the Dragon Age serie is [[BlatantLies clearly lacking in these departments]]

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* Another possibility is that both propositions are true: Alistair is the son of Maric and a maid from Redcliffe Castle, and Fiona did have a child with Maric,.. Maric who's not Alistair, thus introducing another Theirin heir and therefore more political/family drama, because the Dragon Age serie series is [[BlatantLies clearly lacking in these departments]]



* [[spoiler:Confirmed in the saddest way possible. Assuming you side with the Mages and Alistair is king of Ferelden, they do meet...but only because Alistair is exiling her and her Mages from Ferelden for taking over Redcliffe. And he never finds out she is his mother.]]

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* [[spoiler:Confirmed in the saddest way possible. Assuming you side with the Mages and Alistair is king of Ferelden, they do meet... but only because Alistair is exiling her and her Mages from Ferelden for taking over Redcliffe. And he never finds out she is his mother.]]



* Oh, TrueArtIsAngsty, when will you realize [[SillyRabitCynicismIsForLosers Cynicism is for Losers]]? Wait a minute, this is Bioware...nevermind. Tranquil/abomination is probably a ''happy'' choice...

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* Oh, TrueArtIsAngsty, when will you realize [[SillyRabitCynicismIsForLosers Cynicism is for Losers]]? Wait a minute, this is Bioware...nevermind. never mind. Tranquil/abomination is probably a ''happy'' choice...



* Morrigan. She is after all, a major character in this game after not being seen in [[VideoGame/DragonAgeII 2]]. And someone has been making sure that elements of Thedas that could potentially resolve the HellGate crisis are all destablized, such as the Grey Wardens, Circle of Magi, The Chantry and Orlais itself. Judging from the way she's dressed in Orlesian attire in "The Fires Above" trailer, it's very likely that Morrigan has insinuated herself into Empress Celene's court. She could be behind it all.

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* Morrigan. She is after all, a major character in this game after not being seen in [[VideoGame/DragonAgeII 2]]. And someone has been making sure that elements of Thedas that could potentially resolve the HellGate crisis are all destablized, destabilized, such as the Grey Wardens, Circle of Magi, The Chantry and Orlais itself. Judging from the way she's dressed in Orlesian attire in "The Fires Above" trailer, it's very likely that Morrigan has insinuated herself into Empress Celene's court. She could be behind it all.



* The king of Nevarra, Markus Pentagast, is extremely old and has no children of his own, neither does his heir-apparent, his younger brother, Firdinand. More distantly related Pentagasts are lining up to replace him while various other Nevarran clans are circling, smelling blood in the water. As it happens, you're going to have a Pentagast- Cassandra- in your party. Even if it doesn't lead to an Alistair situation, you can bet her familial connection will come up.

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* The king of Nevarra, Markus Pentagast, Pentaghast, is extremely old and has no children of his own, neither does his heir-apparent, his younger brother, Firdinand. Ferdinand. More distantly related Pentagasts Pentaghasts are lining up to replace him while various other Nevarran clans are circling, smelling blood in the water. As it happens, you're going to have a Pentagast- Pentaghast- Cassandra- in your party. Even if it doesn't lead to an Alistair situation, you can bet her familial connection will come up.



** And let us not forget about the sappy romance series inspired by Aveline, whose fandom includes a ''very devoted'' [[spoiler: Cassandra Penthagast]]

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** And let us not forget about the sappy romance series inspired by Aveline, whose fandom includes a ''very devoted'' [[spoiler: Cassandra Penthagast]]
Pentaghast]].
16th Jun '17 9:59:07 PM LadyNorbert
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I've noticed some patterns in the history of the DA universe. First is the one between Andraste and Flemeth, as well as [[spoiler: Sharlatan and Solas]]. Both are known to only have daughters, they both share similiar designs, just look at the Andrastian and [[spoiler: Mythal]] iconography. Then we have [[spoiler: the freedom loving elf who partakes in the revolution against the ruling class and has a close bond to a powerful woman in the movement. Am I talking about Solas or Sharlatan?]]

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I've noticed some patterns in the history of the DA universe. First is the one between Andraste and Flemeth, as well as [[spoiler: Sharlatan and Solas]]. Both are known to only have daughters, they both share similiar designs, just look at the Andrastian and [[spoiler: Mythal]] iconography. Then we have [[spoiler: the freedom loving elf who partakes in the revolution against the ruling class and has a close bond to a powerful woman in the movement. Am I talking about Solas or Sharlatan?]]Shartan?]]
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