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* Alternatively, it was the son of Rick Dalton and his Italian wife, following in his father's footsteps and staring in a SpaghettiWestern-style Blaxploitation film.

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* Alternatively, it was the son of Rick Dalton and his Italian wife, following in his father's footsteps and staring in a SpaghettiWestern-style Blaxploitation film.film.

[[WMG:Schultz killed [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphine_LaLaurie Delphine LaLaurie]].]]
Though [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphine_LaLaurie#Later_life_and_death the circumstances of her death are unclear]], we do know she died in the 1840s. So if Schultz happened to be in France at the time …
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Broomhilda's former owners, the von Schafts, a wealthy German-American family, are the founders of the company that would become the ruthless international MegaCorp Schaft Enterprises.

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Broomhilda's former owners, the von Schafts, a wealthy German-American family, are the founders of the company that would become the ruthless international MegaCorp Schaft Enterprises.Enterprises.

[[WMG: ''Django Unchained'' is a film in the reality of ''Film/OnceUponATimeInHollywood'']]
Maybe the big bad Candie wasn't played by Creator/LeonardoDiCaprio, but was actually played by Rick Dalton after he got himself and his career straightened out, and after he sobered up.
* Alternatively, it was the son of Rick Dalton and his Italian wife, following in his father's footsteps and staring in a SpaghettiWestern-style Blaxploitation film.
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** Assuming we ignore that [[Shaft2000 Shaft looks just like Stephen.]]

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** Assuming we ignore that [[Shaft2000 [[Film/Shaft2000 Shaft looks just like Stephen.]]
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Hans Landa and Hugo Stigletz are distantly related, sharing King Schultz as a common ancestor.

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Hans Landa and Hugo Stigletz Stiglitz are distantly related, sharing King Schultz as a common ancestor.
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** Unlikely. What would be most likely is this incident would be the equivalent to John Brown's Raid except much much worse. While the freed slaves would no doubt cause a lot of trouble, in the end the US Military would have put an end to their Slave Rebellion. Django and his Rebels would be viewed as martyrs by Northern abolitionists, and they would have terrified the Southern Slave-owning Aristocracy. This would have further enlarged the divide between north and south while radicalizing the extremists on both sides. The final straw would be the election of Republican Abraham Lincoln, resulting in South Carolina and other southern states succeeded from the Union and Aggressively expelling Federal Troops from it's borders Starting the American Civil War in the Final Months of 1860.
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[[WMG: Schultz is somehow connected with [[Film/{{Sherlock Holmes}} Professor Moriarty]].]]
No idea how, [[Film/SherlockHolmes but considering]] [[ArmCannon the wristgun]]...

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[[WMG: Schultz is somehow connected with [[Film/{{Sherlock Holmes}} [[Film/SherlockHolmes2009 Professor Moriarty]].]]
No idea how, [[Film/SherlockHolmes [[Film/SherlockHolmes2009 but considering]] [[ArmCannon the wristgun]]...
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**It could also be that Django decided to use the Von Shaft name after the events of the film, since the name'Django Freeman' is going to be plastered all over every wanted poster from New Orleans to Richmond.
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** Shouldn't Django be Wiglaf in this comparison?
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** Assuming we ignore that [[Shaft2000 Shaft looks just like Stephen.]]
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Due to the uncanny resemblance and both of them work for ruthless businessmen.

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Due to the uncanny resemblance and both of them work for ruthless businessmen.businessmen.

[[WMG: The film also takes place in the past of ''Anime/{{Patlabor}}'']]
Broomhilda's former owners, the von Schafts, a wealthy German-American family, are the founders of the company that would become the ruthless international MegaCorp Schaft Enterprises.
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After Candie strongarms Schultz into paying the $12,000 for Hildy, Candie demands Schultz shake his hand. Considering Candie went berserk at the dinner table to the point of cutting his own hand without reacting (something LeonardoDiCaprio accidentally did during filming), Schultz shaking his hand would obviously put him in a vulnerable position for an attack. The fact Candie starting yelling that demand suggests he was adamant for a special reason beyond Southern propriety and Schultz realize that this psycho wants him dead. So, given that Schultz is deep in Candie's plantation with no escape, he might as well take his best shot and hope Django can use the distraction to jump the plantation's thugs for an outside chance to shoot his way out. At that, Django does make his move after Schultz is shot in retaliation and given that there are armed gunmen waiting upstairs in the entrance hall and outside the front door, it's obvious Candie didn't intend any of them to get 10 feet out of the house alive.

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After Candie strongarms Schultz into paying the $12,000 for Hildy, Candie demands Schultz shake his hand. Considering Candie went berserk at the dinner table to the point of cutting his own hand without reacting (something LeonardoDiCaprio Creator/LeonardoDiCaprio accidentally did during filming), Schultz shaking his hand would obviously put him in a vulnerable position for an attack. The fact Candie starting yelling that demand suggests he was adamant for a special reason beyond Southern propriety and Schultz realize that this psycho wants him dead. So, given that Schultz is deep in Candie's plantation with no escape, he might as well take his best shot and hope Django can use the distraction to jump the plantation's thugs for an outside chance to shoot his way out. At that, Django does make his move after Schultz is shot in retaliation and given that there are armed gunmen waiting upstairs in the entrance hall and outside the front door, it's obvious Candie didn't intend any of them to get 10 feet out of the house alive.



** Also, this was before finding out that Leo diCaprio actually just cut his hand open by accident and they [[ThrowItIn threw it in.]]

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** Also, this was before finding out that Leo diCaprio [=diCaprio=] actually just cut his hand open by accident and they [[ThrowItIn threw it in.]]
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*** Actually, this strikes this troper as a fair bit of FridgeBrilliance. Both characters are polyglots, both are refined, and both of them are notorious for turning nearly ''any'' situation to their advantage. Also, Landa seems to share some of his theoretical grandfather's attitudes on blacks to a degree. When discussing Marcel, Shoshanna's black assistant (and unbeknownst to him, boyfriend) he remarks that "while he's a capable negro" he shan't work the premiere. Most Germans featured in InglouriousBasterds would've been far more racist and dismissive.

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*** Actually, this strikes this troper as a fair bit of FridgeBrilliance. Both characters are polyglots, both are refined, and both of them are notorious for turning nearly ''any'' situation to their advantage. Also, Landa seems to share some of his theoretical grandfather's attitudes on blacks to a degree. When discussing Marcel, Shoshanna's black assistant (and unbeknownst to him, boyfriend) he remarks that "while he's a capable negro" he shan't work the premiere. Most Germans featured in InglouriousBasterds Film/InglouriousBasterds would've been far more racist and dismissive.
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** Perhaps the aborted plans with the masked tracker could have been a final, last-minute confrontation between her and Broomhilda (thus completing the whole hero/villain ShadowArchetype theme). That would've been awesome and revealed Broomhilda's awesomeness (her namesake was a mighty Valkyrie, after all). The masked tracker would be a cool, frightening, axe-weilding, AxCrazy type (complete with the RedRightHand of the missing lower-jaw, revealed in a shocking unmasking). Maybe someone can write this as a fanfic, "DJANGO UNCHAINED: The Lost Chapter".
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* And Robert's legend of Catcher Freeman was based on Django.

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* And Robert's legend of Catcher Freeman was based on Django.
Django. Just watch "The Story of Catcher Freeman", and see how oddly similar it is to ''Django Unchained''!
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* And Robert's legend of Catcher Freeman was based on Django.
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[[WMG:Django Unchained is set in the same universe as TheBoondocks.]]
And Stephen is Ruckus's ancestor.
** Impossible. Ruckus is 50.7% white and suffering from the heartbreak of Revitiligo. See, that's a skin condition that's the opposite of what Michael Jackson had.

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[[WMG:Django Unchained [[WMG:''Django Unchained'' is set in the same universe as TheBoondocks.''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks''.]]
Django Freeman is the ancestor of Robert, Huey, and Riley Freeman. And Stephen is Ruckus's ancestor.
** Impossible. Ruckus is 50.7% white and suffering from
the heartbreak ancestor of Revitiligo. See, that's a skin condition that's the opposite of what Michael Jackson had.
Ruckus.
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Both of these guys have similar voices and accents, have the same style of mustache, and also wear fine hats.

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Both of these guys have similar voices and accents, have the same style of mustache, and also wear fine hats.hats.

[[WMG: Stephen is an ancestor of Jules Winnfield]]
Due to the uncanny resemblance and both of them work for ruthless businessmen.
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* This has been confirmed by Tarantino in [[http://www.metro.us/newyork/entertainment/2013/01/17/quentin-tarantino-on-django-unchained/ an interview]].
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Throughout the film, women are seen as passive characters. Broomhilda is a typical DamselinDistress,Lara is a SouthernBelle who does practically nothing and one of Candie's trackers is quite clearly a woman, but has her face covered, wears masculine clothes and never speaks a word of dialogue. At the end of the film, Broomhilda seems to have gained an active status similar to her husband, wearing masculine clothes but not covering her face, wielding a gun and riding off for more adventures. I believe that Tarantino is subtly suggesting that the suppression of race also leads to the suppression of women, and they are just as awful and dehumanising as each other. Considering QT's penchant for the ActionGirl trope and other such strong, female charcters, I feel this is quite likely.

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Throughout the film, women are seen as passive characters. Broomhilda is a typical DamselinDistress,Lara DamselInDistress, Lara is a SouthernBelle who does practically nothing and one of Candie's trackers is quite clearly a woman, but has her face covered, wears masculine clothes and never speaks a word of dialogue. At the end of the film, Broomhilda seems to have gained an active status similar to her husband, wearing masculine clothes but not covering her face, wielding a gun and riding off for more adventures. I believe that Tarantino is subtly suggesting that the suppression of race also leads to the suppression of women, and they are just as awful and dehumanising as each other. Considering QT's penchant for the ActionGirl trope and other such strong, female charcters, I feel this is quite likely.
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* Easy HandWave for the last name discrepancy: In the film's aftermath, Django and Broomhilda turn out ''not'' to share OneTrueLove, but they don't split until after Broomhilda bears a child. Broomhilda keeps (or reverts to) her maiden name, the child stays with its mother, and Django's child keeps the Von Shaft name alive.
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** Jossed. Schultz actually shoots Candie because he finds him utterly loathsome, especially after using his dogs to tear D'Artagnan aprt. As it was, Candie ''was'' going to let Django, Schultz and Brunhilde leave, and is demanding the handshake from Schultz to basically dominate the proceedings and seal some kind of victory after 'finding out' that Django and Schultz weren't slavers. As it was, if he wasn't so adamant in demanding the handshake, he wouldn't have been shot. But Schultz fired his gun, and, [[Film/AnchormanTheLegendOfRonBurgundy well, it escalated pretty quickly]].

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** Jossed. Schultz actually shoots Candie because he finds him utterly loathsome, especially after using his dogs to tear D'Artagnan aprt.apart. As it was, Candie ''was'' going to let Django, Schultz and Brunhilde leave, and is demanding the handshake from Schultz to basically dominate the proceedings and seal some kind of victory after 'finding out' that Django and Schultz weren't slavers. As it was, if he wasn't so adamant in demanding the handshake, he wouldn't have been shot. But Schultz fired his gun, and, [[Film/AnchormanTheLegendOfRonBurgundy well, it escalated pretty quickly]].
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He is the right age, cultured, trilingual and very liberal in general for his time. He sees Americans and Southerners in particular with contempt, and says that he doesn't want to die in their country, so why doesn't he just go back to Germany? Because he actually [[YouCantGoHomeAgain can't go home again]]. In RealLife, many German liberals fled to North and South America where they became progressive politicians or joined armies in wars that they considered to be morally justified. Schultz is a bounty hunter because, besides the pay, the job provides him with the opportunity to be TheRemnant By Proxy to a revolution long after it has been crushed, killing oppressive authority figures and convicted murderers alike and freeing people from slavery. This also explains why he can't take it anymore and kills Candie even though it will result in his own death. The image of an oppresive, murdering aristocrat acting with impunity and feeling morally justified about it hit too close to home to ignore it.

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He is the right age, cultured, trilingual and very liberal in general for his time. He sees Americans and Southerners in particular with contempt, and says that he doesn't want to die in their country, Chickasaw County, Mississippi, so why doesn't he just go back to Germany? Because he actually [[YouCantGoHomeAgain can't go home again]]. In RealLife, many German liberals fled to North and South America where they became progressive politicians or joined armies in wars that they considered to be morally justified. Schultz is a bounty hunter because, besides the pay, the job provides him with the opportunity to be TheRemnant By Proxy to a revolution long after it has been crushed, killing oppressive authority figures and convicted murderers alike and freeing people from slavery. This also explains why he can't take it anymore and kills Candie even though it will result in his own death. The image of an oppresive, murdering aristocrat acting with impunity and feeling morally justified about it hit too close to home to ignore it.
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In the scene at the Cleopatra club, Candie asks Schultz to explain why he wants to get into the mandingo fighting business; Schultz replies that he's bored and mandingo fighting seems like a good bit of fun. Now, earlier on, he explains he was a dentist five years ago. My guess, is he was telling the truth. He was, for a time, a travelling dentist, plying his trade in the dentist-scarce South and Southwest frontiers, but he became jaded and dissatisfied, until, one day, he (like Django) saw some badass bounty hunter and thought: this seems like a good bit of fun. He tried it, using his dentist disguise for the first time, and realized: this is my calling in life, and I'm a natural. Another point: when he blows up his cart, he says "auf wiedersehn", ostensibly to the baddies - but he knows he'll never meet them again! He's saying it to the ''cart'', because it represents the last bit of his former life, which he may return to in his retirement.

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In the scene at At the Cleopatra club, Club, Candie asks Schultz to explain why he wants to get into the mandingo fighting business; Schultz replies that he's bored and mandingo fighting seems like a good bit of fun. Now, earlier on, he think back to the scene at the saloon in Daughtrey where Schultz explains that he was a dentist left dentistry five years ago.ago to become a bounty hunter. My guess, is he was telling the truth. He was, for a time, a travelling dentist, plying his the trade in across the dentist-scarce South and Southwest frontiers, but he became jaded and dissatisfied, until, one day, he (like Django) did something similar to Django - he saw some badass bounty hunter and thought: this thought, "this seems like a good bit of fun. fun". He tried it, using his dentist disguise for the first time, and realized: this realized "this is my calling in life, and I'm a natural. natural". Another point: when he blows up his cart, the cart during the proto-Klansmen scene, he says "auf wiedersehn", ostensibly to the baddies - but he knows he'll never meet them again! He's saying it to the ''cart'', because it represents the last bit of his former life, which he may return to in his retirement.



After Candie strongarms Schultz into paying the $12,000 for Brunhilde, Candie demands Schultz shake his hand. Considering Candie went berserk at the dinner table to the point of cutting his own hand without reacting, Schultz shaking his hand would obviously put him in a vulnerable position for an attack. The fact Candie starting yelling that demand suggests he was adamant for a special reason beyond Southern propriety and Schultz realize that this psycho wants him dead. So, given that Schultz is deep in Candie's plantation with no escape, he might as well take his best shot and hope Django can use the distraction to jump the plantation's thugs for an outside chance to fight his way out. At that, Django does make his move after Schultz is shot in retaliation and given that there are armed men waiting upstairs in the entrance hall and outside the front door, it's obvious Candie didn't intend any of them to get 10 feet out of the house alive.
** Jossed. Schultz actually guns down Candie because he finds him utterly loathsome, especially after using his dogs to tear one of his slaves apart. As it was, Candie ''was'' going to let Django, Schultz and Brunhilde leave, and is demanding the handshake from Schultz to basically dominate the proceedings and seal some kind of victory after 'finding out' that Django and Schultz weren't slavers. As it was, if he wasn't so adamant in demanding the handshake, he wouldn't have been shot. But Schultz firing the first shot is what causes the massive gunfight.

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After Candie strongarms Schultz into paying the $12,000 for Brunhilde, Hildy, Candie demands Schultz shake his hand. Considering Candie went berserk at the dinner table to the point of cutting his own hand without reacting, reacting (something LeonardoDiCaprio accidentally did during filming), Schultz shaking his hand would obviously put him in a vulnerable position for an attack. The fact Candie starting yelling that demand suggests he was adamant for a special reason beyond Southern propriety and Schultz realize that this psycho wants him dead. So, given that Schultz is deep in Candie's plantation with no escape, he might as well take his best shot and hope Django can use the distraction to jump the plantation's thugs for an outside chance to fight shoot his way out. At that, Django does make his move after Schultz is shot in retaliation and given that there are armed men gunmen waiting upstairs in the entrance hall and outside the front door, it's obvious Candie didn't intend any of them to get 10 feet out of the house alive.
** Jossed. Schultz actually guns down shoots Candie because he finds him utterly loathsome, especially after using his dogs to tear one of his slaves apart.D'Artagnan aprt. As it was, Candie ''was'' going to let Django, Schultz and Brunhilde leave, and is demanding the handshake from Schultz to basically dominate the proceedings and seal some kind of victory after 'finding out' that Django and Schultz weren't slavers. As it was, if he wasn't so adamant in demanding the handshake, he wouldn't have been shot. But Schultz firing the first shot is what causes the massive gunfight.fired his gun, and, [[Film/AnchormanTheLegendOfRonBurgundy well, it escalated pretty quickly]].

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Both men live in the Tarentino Universe, Are African Americam and know how to use a gun. Django is possibly Jules Great,Great Grandfather or something.

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Both men live in the Tarentino Universe, Are are African Americam American and know how to use a gun. Django is possibly Jules Great,Great Grandfather or something.something.

[[WMG: Butch Pooch and Ace Speck are identical twin brothers]]
Both of these guys have similar voices and accents, have the same style of mustache, and also wear fine hats.
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No idea how, but considering the wristgun...

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No idea how, [[Film/SherlockHolmes but considering considering]] [[ArmCannon the wristgun...
wristgun]]...
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*** Actually, this strikes this troper as a fair bit of FridgeBrilliance. Both characters are polyglots, both are refined, and both of them are notorious for turning nearly ''any'' situation to their advantage. Also, inspite of being a CompleteMonster, Landa seems to share some of his theoretical grandfather's attitudes on blacks to a degree. When discussing Marcel, Shoshanna's black assistant (and unbeknownst to him, boyfriend) he remarks that "while he's a capable negro" he shan't work the premiere. Most Germans featured in InglouriousBasterds would've been far more racist and dismissive.

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*** Actually, this strikes this troper as a fair bit of FridgeBrilliance. Both characters are polyglots, both are refined, and both of them are notorious for turning nearly ''any'' situation to their advantage. Also, inspite of being a CompleteMonster, Landa seems to share some of his theoretical grandfather's attitudes on blacks to a degree. When discussing Marcel, Shoshanna's black assistant (and unbeknownst to him, boyfriend) he remarks that "while he's a capable negro" he shan't work the premiere. Most Germans featured in InglouriousBasterds would've been far more racist and dismissive.
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*** Actually, this strikes this troper as a fair bit of FridgeBrilliance. Both characters are polyglots, both are refined, and both of them are notorious for turning nearly ''any'' situation to their advantage. Also, inspite of being a CompleteMonster, Landa seems to share some of his theoretical grandfather's attitudes on blacks to a degree. When discussing Marcel, Shoshanna's black assistant (and unbeknownst to him, boyfriend) he remarks that "while he's a capable negro" he shan't work the premiere. Most Germans featured in InglouriousBasterds would've been far more racist and dismissive.
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[[WMG: Dr. Schultz is related to [[InglouriousBasterds Sgt. Hugo Stiglitz]] ]]

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[[WMG: Dr. Schultz is related to [[InglouriousBasterds [[Film/InglouriousBasterds Sgt. Hugo Stiglitz]] ]]
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*** If we go by 20 years = a generation, that could work. This movie is about 85 years before [[IngloriousBasterds Inglorious Basterds]]. Hans Landa appears to be late 30s-early 40s during WWII, making for an approximate birth date of about 1900 or so(many Nazi mid-level officials were born around then, with Hitler and the other big fish being born in the late 19th century). Schultz, on the other hand, appears to be in his mid-late 40s(makes sense, given Christoph Waltz obviously aging between the two movies, making for an approximate birth date of 1815 or so. So? Great grand-father, if anything. Given the tendency for characteristics to continue in the family in the Tarentino-verse though, I'd say that Hugo Stiglitz(see below) is more likely.

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*** If we go by 20 years = a generation, that could work. This movie is about 85 years before [[IngloriousBasterds Inglorious Basterds]].''Film/InglouriousBasterds''. Hans Landa appears to be late 30s-early 40s during WWII, making for an approximate birth date of about 1900 or so(many Nazi mid-level officials were born around then, with Hitler and the other big fish being born in the late 19th century). Schultz, on the other hand, appears to be in his mid-late 40s(makes sense, given Christoph Waltz obviously aging between the two movies, making for an approximate birth date of 1815 or so. So? Great grand-father, if anything. Given the tendency for characteristics to continue in the family in the Tarentino-verse though, I'd say that Hugo Stiglitz(see below) is more likely.
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* Django and his fight against the slavers is the conflict between pagan and Christian values.

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* Django and his fight against the slavers is the conflict between pagan and Christian values.values.

[[WMG: Django Freeman is an ancestor of Jules Winnfield.]]
Both men live in the Tarentino Universe, Are African Americam and know how to use a gun. Django is possibly Jules Great,Great Grandfather or something.

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