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** Jossed by Disgaea 5. More specifically by Killia. "Tyrant" is a class of demon above Overlord on the power scale. Tyrants are extremely rare, with only 5 ever being known to exist (Killia, Void, Goldion, Valvatorez, and possibly Zenon). Note: Zetta is ALMOST a Tyrant class demon.
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** Jossed by Disgaea 5. More specifically by Killia. "Tyrant" is a class of demon above Overlord on the power scale. Tyrants are extremely rare, with only 5 ever being known to exist (Killia, Void, Goldion, Valvatorez, and possibly Zenon). Note: Zetta is ALMOST a Tyrant class demon.demon.
*** This title doesn't exist as a rank in the Japanese versions of the games. Valvatorez's title is "Tyrant" as in "Cruel Dictator of a Sovereign State" (a nod to Vlad the Impaler), Killia's title is a different Japanese word meaning "Overlord of Violence", Baal's rank in Japanese is stated to be "Super/Supreme Overlord" and his title is "Lord of Terror", none of which have any relation to the Japanese word for Tyrant. The 'rank' of "Tyrant Overlord" is completely made up for the localization.
*** This title doesn't exist as a rank in the Japanese versions of the games. Valvatorez's title is "Tyrant" as in "Cruel Dictator of a Sovereign State" (a nod to Vlad the Impaler), Killia's title is a different Japanese word meaning "Overlord of Violence", Baal's rank in Japanese is stated to be "Super/Supreme Overlord" and his title is "Lord of Terror", none of which have any relation to the Japanese word for Tyrant. The 'rank' of "Tyrant Overlord" is completely made up for the localization.
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The system was never mentioned in any previous game. On a meta level, LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain is in play, for the system was never heard from again. Likely due to how poorly received the twist was due to how uncharacteristically mean spirited (by the series standard) it comes off as. Which leads to my next theory.
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The system was never mentioned in any previous game. On a meta level, LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain is in play, for the system was never heard from again. Likely due to how poorly received the twist was due to how uncharacteristically mean spirited (by the series standard) it comes off as. Which leads to my next theory.\n
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* It might have been earlier than ''Disgaea 4''. LaPucelle has always had an uncertain chronology...
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* It might have been earlier than ''Disgaea 4''. LaPucelle ''VideoGame/LaPucelle'' has always had an uncertain chronology...
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He crossed the street without washing his hands. Every. Single. Day. Knowing this series, it's either that or actually being evil.
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He crossed the street without washing his hands. Every. Single. Day. Knowing this series, it's either that or actually being evil.evil.
** Jossed by Disgaea 5. More specifically by Killia. "Tyrant" is a class of demon above Overlord on the power scale. Tyrants are extremely rare, with only 5 ever being known to exist (Killia, Void, Goldion, Valvatorez, and possibly Zenon). Note: Zetta is ALMOST a Tyrant class demon.
** Jossed by Disgaea 5. More specifically by Killia. "Tyrant" is a class of demon above Overlord on the power scale. Tyrants are extremely rare, with only 5 ever being known to exist (Killia, Void, Goldion, Valvatorez, and possibly Zenon). Note: Zetta is ALMOST a Tyrant class demon.
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The system was never mentioned in any previous game. On a meta level, LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain is in play, for the system was never heard from again. Likely due to how poorly received the twist was due to be uncharacteristically mean spirited it comes off as. Which leads to my next theory.
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The system was never mentioned in any previous game. On a meta level, LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain is in play, for the system was never heard from again. Likely due to how poorly received the twist was due to be how uncharacteristically mean spirited (by the series standard) it comes off as. Which leads to my next theory.
theory.
[[WMG: Humanity found out about the fear/awe energy system]].
This theory centers around {{Deconstruction}} of the system in question and attempts to explain why humanity is collectively so evil in 4 compared to the other games (normally running the full spectrum of good and evil in other games).
Basically, humanity of that human world found out the AwfulTruth and came to the conclusion that they were only created to be a ButtMonkey race to the rest of the universe and collectively lost their minds. The result: humanity growing further and further evil and turning their backs on God as {{Revenge}} against both the Netherworld AND Celestia.
The warning signs were there in the Great War (shown in Revisited) but greatly accelerated by [[spoiler: Nemo]], who had his own grudge. As part of that grudge, he used his power and influence to spread knowledge of the fear/awe energy system.
[[WMG: Humanity found out about the fear/awe energy system]].
This theory centers around {{Deconstruction}} of the system in question and attempts to explain why humanity is collectively so evil in 4 compared to the other games (normally running the full spectrum of good and evil in other games).
Basically, humanity of that human world found out the AwfulTruth and came to the conclusion that they were only created to be a ButtMonkey race to the rest of the universe and collectively lost their minds. The result: humanity growing further and further evil and turning their backs on God as {{Revenge}} against both the Netherworld AND Celestia.
The warning signs were there in the Great War (shown in Revisited) but greatly accelerated by [[spoiler: Nemo]], who had his own grudge. As part of that grudge, he used his power and influence to spread knowledge of the fear/awe energy system.
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The system was never mentioned in any previous game. On a meta level, LetsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain is in play, for the system was never heard from again. Likely due to how poorly received the twist was due to be uncharacteristically mean spirited it comes off as. Which leads to my next theory.
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The system was never mentioned in any previous game. On a meta level, LetsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain LetUsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain is in play, for the system was never heard from again. Likely due to how poorly received the twist was due to be uncharacteristically mean spirited it comes off as. Which leads to my next theory.
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[[WMG: The fear/awe energy system is a unique mechanic to this game's netherworld.]]
The system was never mentioned in any previous game. On a meta level, LetsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain is in play, for the system was never heard from again. Likely due to how poorly received the twist was due to be uncharacteristically mean spirited it comes off as. Which leads to my next theory.
The system was never mentioned in any previous game. On a meta level, LetsNeverSpeakOfThisAgain is in play, for the system was never heard from again. Likely due to how poorly received the twist was due to be uncharacteristically mean spirited it comes off as. Which leads to my next theory.
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Given his reaction to seeing his dead daughter, either he truly is insane, or having her die was part of the plan all along. A human, even with two final boss sisters, would have trouble taking over the world in his mind. So, by having her die, she would have to end up in Hell since her ambitions are not Heaven worthy, as he says. By killing her, he sends her on her way to become a demon, makes Deso fall to Hades as well to find her, and BAM now she can take over the world. He... just didn't think or know about the whole Prinny roadblock thing.
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Given his reaction to seeing his dead daughter, either he truly is insane, or having her die was part of the plan all along. A human, even with two final boss sisters, would have trouble taking over the world in his mind. So, by having her die, she would have to end up in Hell since her ambitions are not Heaven worthy, as he says. By killing her, he sends her on her way to become a demon, makes Deso Desco fall to Hades as well to find her, and BAM now she can take over the world. He... just didn't think or know about the whole Prinny roadblock thing.
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[[WMG: By the time of Disgaea 4 [[LaPucelle Father Salade]] has died and gone to Celestia]]
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[[WMG: By the time of Disgaea 4 [[LaPucelle 4, [[VideoGame/LaPucelle Father Salade]] has died and gone to Celestia]]
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The plot to late the game has some disturbing similarities to the back story of Symphony of the Night. Artina plays the role of Lisa, Valvatorez plays the role of Alucard, and Nemo plays the role of Dracula. To elaborate, the circumstances of Artina's death are in many ways similar to Lisa's (both die as a result of medicine related NoGoodDeedGoesUnPunished). Valvatorez is pissed but is stopped by the dying words of Artina. Nemo goes nuclear as a result, becoming a dark lord of sorts hell bent on the destruction and punishment of man kind as retribution for Artina's death.
[[WMG: The Chara world is inside that characters mind.]]
The Chara world is essentially a character equivalent of an item world. You go inside Him/Her/it, beat up enemies, and solve geo puzzles. Now this would be all fine and dandy if it wasn't for the fact that you can DEPLOY THE CHARACTER YOU ARE CURRENTLY INSIDE, INSIDE THEMSELVES! Inception jokes inside, this instantly rules out you being physically inside them as this would create a paradox. Therefore you are most likely actually inside their minds and are beating up nightmares and when you deploy them you are deploying their imaginary self who if dies results in that real character going into a coma which is why they cannot be used again until they are healed at the hospital. The geo blocks are probably their latent abilities.
[[WMG: The Chara world is inside that characters mind.]]
The Chara world is essentially a character equivalent of an item world. You go inside Him/Her/it, beat up enemies, and solve geo puzzles. Now this would be all fine and dandy if it wasn't for the fact that you can DEPLOY THE CHARACTER YOU ARE CURRENTLY INSIDE, INSIDE THEMSELVES! Inception jokes inside, this instantly rules out you being physically inside them as this would create a paradox. Therefore you are most likely actually inside their minds and are beating up nightmares and when you deploy them you are deploying their imaginary self who if dies results in that real character going into a coma which is why they cannot be used again until they are healed at the hospital. The geo blocks are probably their latent abilities.
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The plot to the late the game has some disturbing similarities to the back story backstory of Symphony of the Night. Artina plays the role of Lisa, Valvatorez plays the role of Alucard, and Nemo plays the role of Dracula. To elaborate, the circumstances of Artina's death are in many ways similar to Lisa's (both die as a result of medicine related NoGoodDeedGoesUnPunished).medicine-related NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished). Valvatorez is pissed but is stopped by the dying words of Artina. Nemo goes nuclear as a result, becoming a dark lord of sorts hell bent hellbent on the destruction and punishment of man kind mankind as retribution for Artina's death.
[[WMG: The Chara world is inside thatcharacters character's mind.]]
The Chara world is essentially a character equivalent of an item world. You go inside Him/Her/it, beat up enemies, and solve geo puzzles. Now this would be all fine and dandy if it wasn't for the fact that you can DEPLOY THE CHARACTER YOU ARE CURRENTLY INSIDE, INSIDE THEMSELVES! Inception jokes inside, this instantly rules out you being physically inside them as this would create a paradox. Therefore you are most likely actually inside their minds and are beating up nightmares and when you deploy them you are deploying their imaginary selfwho who, if dies he/she/it dies, [[YourMindMakesItReal results in that real character going into a coma coma]], which is why they cannot be used again until they are healed at the hospital. The geo blocks are probably their latent abilities.
[[WMG: The Chara world is inside that
The Chara world is essentially a character equivalent of an item world. You go inside Him/Her/it, beat up enemies, and solve geo puzzles. Now this would be all fine and dandy if it wasn't for the fact that you can DEPLOY THE CHARACTER YOU ARE CURRENTLY INSIDE, INSIDE THEMSELVES! Inception jokes inside, this instantly rules out you being physically inside them as this would create a paradox. Therefore you are most likely actually inside their minds and are beating up nightmares and when you deploy them you are deploying their imaginary self
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Both of them were too strong for the game's cast, so they just stood back and them MutalKill each other, except they're not dead.
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Both of them were too strong for the game's cast, so they just stood back and them MutalKill MutualKill each other, except they're not dead.
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When [[LightIsNotGood too much celestial energy]] settles into one being; it becomes like Baal or Pringer X; an Eldritch Abomination dedicated to a corruption of purpose that isn't compatible with the world.
* [[TheMaker The Creator]] set up the Fate Revolution Circuit to to counter this by appointed a human being with a fraction of this power (thus draining it); and throwing them at whatever Demon Overlord is causing the most problems at the time. (Some Black Wings are created for just this purpose.)
* Most human God pro tems die; which goes along with the plan. Should one be successful; the process is designed to kill the host anyways; and prevent them from continued access. Then the "White Wings" move to another base in an AlternateUniverse with another Demon Overlord to throw temporary Gods at; in an Unending "Final Battle between Angels and Demons."
* [[TheMaker The Creator]] set up the Fate Revolution Circuit to to counter this by appointed a human being with a fraction of this power (thus draining it); and throwing them at whatever Demon Overlord is causing the most problems at the time. (Some Black Wings are created for just this purpose.)
* Most human God pro tems die; which goes along with the plan. Should one be successful; the process is designed to kill the host anyways; and prevent them from continued access. Then the "White Wings" move to another base in an AlternateUniverse with another Demon Overlord to throw temporary Gods at; in an Unending "Final Battle between Angels and Demons."
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When [[LightIsNotGood too much celestial energy]] settles into one being; being, it becomes like Baal or Pringer X; an Eldritch Abomination EldritchAbomination dedicated to a corruption of purpose that isn't compatible with the world.
* [[TheMaker The Creator]] set up the Fate Revolution Circuit to to counter this byappointed appointing a human being with a fraction of this power (thus draining it); and throwing them at whatever Demon Overlord is causing the most problems at the time. (Some Black Wings are created for just this purpose.)
* Most human God pro tems die; which goes along with the plan. Should one besuccessful; successful, the process is designed to kill the host anyways; anyways, and prevent them from continued access. Then the "White Wings" move to another base in an AlternateUniverse with another Demon Overlord to throw temporary Gods at; at, in an Unending "Final Battle between Angels and Demons."
* [[TheMaker The Creator]] set up the Fate Revolution Circuit to to counter this by
* Most human God pro tems die; which goes along with the plan. Should one be
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[[WMG: Valvatorez will be voiced by YuriLowenthal.]]
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[[WMG: Valvatorez will be voiced by YuriLowenthal.Creator/YuriLowenthal.]]
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* Most people are saying JohnnyYongBosch due to the similarities to [[Franchise/CodeGeass Lelouch]].
* Jossed. It's TroyBaker.
* Jossed. It's TroyBaker.
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* Most people are saying JohnnyYongBosch Creator/JohnnyYongBosch due to the similarities to [[Franchise/CodeGeass Lelouch]].
* Jossed. It'sTroyBaker.
Creator/TroyBaker.
* Jossed. It's
