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This is why you can stomp of the limbs of a person who just died. Apparently, the human body becomes so weak in the future, that if you so much as trip, your head and probably your arm would fall off.

[[WMG: The Markers are leftover early [[VideoGame/MassEffect Reaper]] Technology.]]

** Pluto doesn't have much in the way of resources, being mostly ice and such. It's also pretty small, about the size of five Ishimuras, so breaking it open wouldn't yield much anyway, as well as completely destroying it. The moons, however, could just be munched up like a twix, a nice little treat. One criticism of the theory, though, VideoGame/MassEffect's time-line takes place a little before that of Dead Space, doesn't it? If that's true, then the whole theory falls apart, as Mass Effect technology came to the fore on a manned expedition to Mars, and that's the basis for all space travel, so unless there was a complete global disintegration of Mass Effect technology and mass-forgetting of how it works, the theory makes no sense.

[[WMG: Ubermorphs are nNcromorphs formed from individuals that helped to create a Marker]]

** More likely Ellie will probably be a Co-op player option, much like how Sheva pairs up with Chris in VideoGame/ResidentEvil5. They've already taken a page from Left4Dead with the multiplayer, it's not entirely out of the question that co-op will be an option.

** More likely Ellie will probably be a Co-op player option, much like how Sheva pairs up with Chris in ResidentEvil5. They've already taken a page from Left4Dead with the multiplayer, it's not entirely out of the question that co-op will be an option.

This is why you can stomp of the limbs of a person who just died. Apparently, the human body becomes weak in the future, that if you so much as trip, your head and probably your arm would fall off.

This is why you can stop of the limbs of a person who just died. Apparently, the human body becomes weak in the future, that if you so much as trip, your head and probably your arm would fall off.

[[spoiler: Mercer, the Hunter and the Hive Mind all passed away in the previous game,]] however the Black Marker called upon them for a higher purpose and [[FusionDance merged them all into]] [[EldritchAbomination an unholy abomination]] when it brought them back to the world of the living. Now exists the ultimate Necromorph, [[ImplacableMan the Ubermorph.]] With the Hive Mind's head, thick flesh and the [[HiveMind ability to telepathically control and command all the other Necromorphs]], the Hunter's ability to [[HealingFactor regenerate]] as well as its mannerisms, and Dr. Challus Mercer's [[EvilutionaryBiologist appreciation]] and devotion to these creatures and [[ThePowerOfHate grudge against Isaac Clarke that keeps him constantly going after him]], devising plans with the others to ambush Isaac. He's also [[InvincibleVillain invincible]] as the fan trick might just be a glitch, and [[NeverFoundtheBody we never see him die in the explosions]].

** However, the ImplacableMan makes an appearance when you first let the Necromorphs swarm the government sector. If you look, you'll see him. [[FridgeBrilliance How else would an army of Necromorphs be able to swarm over 200 heavily armed men so quickly? One of them is literally unkillable!]] However, this is still likely. However, it is possible that the Hive Mind in DeadSpace was malformed or a mutant, due to the fact that the Red Marker was a failed experiment.

** Pluto doesn't have much in the way of resources, being mostly ice and such. It's also pretty small, about the size of five Ishimuras, so breaking it open wouldn't yield much anyway, as well as completely destroying it. The moons, however, could just be munched up like a twix, a nice little treat. One criticism of the theory, though, VideoGame/MassEffect's time-line takes place a little before that of DeadSpace, doesn't it? If that's true, then the whole theory falls apart, as Mass Effect technology came to the fore on a manned expedition to Mars, and that's the basis for all space travel, so unless there was a complete global disintegration of Mass Effect technology and mass-forgetting of how it works, the theory makes no sense.

[[spoiler: Mercer, the Hunter and the Hive Mind all passed away in the previous game,]] however the Black Marker called upon them for a higher purpose and [[FusionDance merged them all into]] [[EldritchAbomination an unholy abomination]] when it brought them back to the world of the living. Now exists the ultimate Necromorph, [[ImplacableMan the Ubermorph.]] With the Hive Mind's head, thick flesh and the [[HiveMind ability to telepathically control and command all the other Necromorphs]], the Hunter's ability to [[HealingFactor regenerate]] as well as its mannerisms, and Dr. Challus Mercer's [[EvilutionaryBiologist appreciation]] and devotion to these creatures and [[ThePowerOfHate grudge against Isaac Clarke that keeps him constantly going after him]], devising plans with the others to ambush Isaac. He's also [[InvincibleVillain invincible]] as the fan trick might just be a glitch, [[NeverFoundtheBody we never see him die in the explosions]], and he's [[spoiler:[[SchmuckBait right behind you]]]]....[[EvilLaugh heheheh...]]

[[WMG: The Markers are leftover early [[MassEffect Reaper]] Technology.]]

** Pluto doesn't have much in the way of resources, being mostly ice and such. It's also pretty small, about the size of five Ishimuras, so breaking it open wouldn't yield much anyway, as well as completely destroying it. The moons, however, could just be munched up like a twix, a nice little treat. One criticism of the theory, though, MassEffect's time-line takes place a little before that of DeadSpace, doesn't it? If that's true, then the whole theory falls apart, as Mass Effect technology came to the fore on a manned expedition to Mars, and that's the basis for all space travel, so unless there was a complete global disintegration of Mass Effect technology and mass-forgetting of how it works, the theory makes no sense.
*** You're missing the best part of Markers as opposed to Mass Relays - they can indoctrinate in a much more subtle and effective manner. They can literally make the HumanResources [[http://deadspace.wikia.com/wiki/It%27s_Making_Us_Make_It! make the devices that render them into reaper jelly.]] Dead Space takes place 50,000 years after the BadEnding of MassEffect3, where the Reapers decided that Shepard got too damned close to wiping them out, and from that point on chose not to give their livestock any assistance ''whatsoever''. Instead, markers were seeded on life-bearing worlds. When species develop enough to uncover their planet's marker, they form Unitologist-analogue "churches" and fuse themselves into the resulting Reaper. Where the Mass Effect galaxy averted "[[http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/aliens.php#id--Apes_or_Angels Apes or Angels]]" via a combination of dead end Mass Relay technology and Citadel conservatism, the Dead Space galaxy lacks alien civilizations altogether - they're all either primitive or have undergone Convergence. The only reason humanity is a spacefaring species is because Altman sank the Black Marker in the Carribean, rather than let the indoctrinated use it to create a Convergence event.

** The Black Marker on earth seems to be of a mixed bag as well according to the novel Martyr. The Black Marker also drives people insane who get in it's sphere of influence and also is responsible for a smaller Necromorph outbreak decades before the first experiments on Aegis VII. However it also created a hallucination in form of an old witch causing peasants to destroy a potential Necromorh outbreak years before Altman finds it. So we don't know how close the red markers are to the black one in terms of objectives.

*** You're missing the best part of Markers as opposed to Mass Relays - they can indoctrinate in a much more subtle and effective manner. They can literally make the HumanResources [[http://deadspace.wikia.com/wiki/It%27s_Making_Us_Make_It! make the devices that render them into reaper jelly.]] Dead Space takes place 50,000 years after the BadEnding of MassEffect3, where the Reapers decided that Shepard got too damned close to wiping them out, and from that point on chose not to give their livestock any assistance ''whatsoever''. Instead, markers were seeded on life-bearing worlds. When species develop enough to uncover their planet's marker, they form Unitologist-analogue "churches" and fuse themselves into the resulting Reaper. Where the Mass Effect galaxy averted "[[http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/aliens.php#id--Apes_or_Angels Apes or Angels]]" via a combination of dead end Mass Relay technology and Citadel conservatism, the Dead Space galaxy lacks alien civilizations altogether - they're all either primitive or have undergone Convergence. I'll have to read Dead Space: Martyr to brainstorm more.

*** You're missing the best part of Markers as opposed to Mass Relays - they can indoctrinate in a much more subtle and effective manner. They can literally make the HumanResources [[http://deadspace.wikia.com/wiki/It%27s_Making_Us_Make_It! make the devices that render them into reaper jelly.]] Dead Space 2 takes place 50,000 years after the BadEnding of MassEffect3, where the Reapers decided that Shepard got too damned close to wiping them out, and from that point on chose not to give their livestock any assistance ''whatsoever''. Instead, markers were seeded on life-bearing worlds. When species develop enough to uncover their planet's marker, they form Unitologist-analogue "churches" and fuse themselves into the resulting Reaper. Where the Mass Effect galaxy averted "[[http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/aliens.php#id--Apes_or_Angels Apes or Angels]]" via a combination of dead end Mass Relay technology and Citadel conservatism, the Dead Space galaxy lacks alien civilizations altogether - they're all either primitive or have undergone Convergence. I'll have to read Dead Space: Martyr to brainstorm more.

[[WMG: [=McNeill=] is alive]]
He survived ''Extraction'' as the ending was a hallucination; He then presumably retired as he states near the end. There is no mention of him in the ''Severed'' DLC, and the developers of this game aren't exactly shy about killing characters. They would've casually mentioned his death if they wanted to. My guess is that he'll return in Dead Space 3, become Isaac's [[TheLancer Lancer]] and kick [=EarthGov's=] ass to avenge Gabe. He will also meet Lexine again, possibly explaining why, despite apparently liking each other in ''Extraction'', she married Gabe instead.

[[WMG:Daina is really Kendra.]]
Well, both of them are helpers [[spoiler:and betrayers in the end]].
* Except [[spoiler:Kendra was flattened by the hive mind in the first one and then her body atomized by the collision of the cork into the planet.]] Now, I think it would be alright to say they might be related or worked together.
** I doubt that. [[spoiler: Kendra knew that the Red Marker was a fake, so she couldn't have been a Unitologist, or else she wouldn't have been picked for the mission.]]

[[WMG: The [[spoiler: Ishimura]] is the source of the Necromorphs on the Sprawl.]]
* While on [[spoiler: the Ishimura]], we get a log entry that states that the Necromorphs aboard were turned into goop when the Red Marker was destroyed. However, it also states that the moment that the goop enters the range of a Marker signal, it begins to reanimate. [=EarthGov=] built [[spoiler: a gigantic Marker, with an effective range of MILES]], with [[spoiler: the Ishimura]] well within range. Put two and two together, please.
** Except that the scientists already knew what the goop was, and what it came from. Plus it took around three years to build a new Marker. Not cleaning out the protoplasm in all that time, ''knowing'' what it would do if the Marker's signal reached it, would be like handing the keys to a missile silo to Dr. Evil while you go out for a stroll. While the scientists and shadowy figures behind the Markers show remarkable lack of foresight, they aren't ''that'' dumb.
*** Was the [[spoiler: Ishimura]] at the Sprawl for the entire three years? Given that much of it is still off line, the computer mentions decontamination hadn't been complete, several parts of it are still very broken down, and the entire [[spoiler: Medical Deck]] is hosed down with luminol and illuminated with blacklights, I got the feeling that it had only been brought in fairly recently (and logs on the ship mention that the person involved in the cleanup hears scuttling noises when he walks the ship). If that was the case, either the marker reanimated the sludge when the [[spoiler: Ishimura]] was brought within range, or while the CEC was cleaning the sludge the marker came on line.
*** Dumb doesn't enter into the picture, if they were manipulated by the Markers into doing it...
*** One of the scientist logs stated that they thought they had blocked the signal of the marker in Gov Sec so it would be a problem but if they missed something..."heaven help us." So maybe they did know and they thought they had it under control, clearly the didn't.

[[WMG: Dead Space 3 will be about finding a way to take out [[spoiler:all eleven remaining Markers at once.]]]]
While Isaac now has Ellie at his side, they'll never have enough time to stop Convergence if the Unitologists/[=EarthGov=] plan to activate them all at the same time. The only way to rid the galaxy of the [[spoiler:Marker]] threat will be to find a way to tap into the [[spoiler:Marker]] network and purge them all simultaneously.

[[WMG: Issac is a Necromorph]]
What if Issac was actually killed by Necromorph Nicole at the end of the first game, in the second he was really a Necromorph killing colonists. The Marker's just tricking it into thinking it is Issac, and that the colonists are Necromorphs, which wouldn't bee too much of a stretch seeing as how powerful the hallucinations are for 'Issac'. Perhaps if this applied to all Necromorphs we could understand why they are so aggressive to all non-Necromorphs, seeing as they're deluded into believing they are humans fighting monsters.
* Well, it is certainly possible that Issac is merely seeing colonists as Necromorphs. The exact same situation happened to [[spoiler: Sam Caldwel in Dead Space: Extraction.]]
* It's almost impossible that Isaac's a Necromorph. Things that don't kill the Necros, such as vacuum, do kill him. It's also highly unlikely that an entire station wouldn't be able to take him down if he's the only one.
** Oh dear I've just got a image of Necro-Issac breaking out of the asylum (research lab) and walking into a school filled with children.
*** OhCrap. I've got my HighOctaneNightmareFuel for the month, I guess the conflicts for it must have died down and it's cheaper than usual.

** Is the book canon? The resident evil and halo books sure weren't.
*** What? The Halo books are all canon, and besides, Visceral has not declared them non-canon. I'm not sure about the Resident Evil books though.
**** To clarify, the ''Halo'' novels are canon ''to a degree'', i.e. if the games contradict it then the books are wrong.

[[spoiler: Although, if the purpose of the necromorphs and the markers are to cause convergence, and Isaac is needed to cause a convergence event, than decapitating him and bringing just his head is much safer than trying to lure him to the marker...]]

Ever notice that Issac is almost always decapitated when he fails to escape a grapple with a necromorph, or why he never becomes one of them? This is especially noticeable with the infector death, because it shouldn't decapitate him after finally sticking him with the proboscis. The infectors don't even seem to be injecting him with the infecting fluid, which is shown outside that cutsceen to be messy.

* Also, because of this, it is impossible for Isaac to argue against orders. Why else would he be tasked to fix the entire ship nearly singlehandedly?

You got to admit, this is a perfect explanation.