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10th Sep '17 8:39:38 PM DuelMark
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Then took control of his criminal empire, like when he killed his employer Don Rigoletto in the comics.

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Then took control of his criminal empire, like when he killed his employer Don Rigoletto in the comics.comics.

[[WMG: The sequels we COULD have had]]
Had there been a sequel despite the financial disaster of ''Elektra'', we could have had a Daredevil film series lasting as long as Spider-Man's original trilogy. These are just ideas that might have worked (especially given the Tom Roth era of Fox)

A sequel where Fisk calls out some old friends to help him take out Daredevil, from The Hand to Mr. Fear. If the Hand was involved, it'd bring Elektra back into Daredevil's life. However, due to her new reputation as an assassin for hire, she's now on the FBI's most wanted and thus their reunion is bittersweet and short lived. She'd probably reveal the real reason she became an assassin is to find out what became of Bullseye, who disappeared from his cell. During this, Matt grows close with his secretary Karen Page.

A sequel to Elektra (that's mildly better) where she finally finds Bullseye, healed by some allies from the Hand. The two have their matches, Bullseye treating her like a blind date who can't stop thinking about him. However, they both have the same target, (for lack of better villains, let's just say Machinesmith) but whereas Elektra is trying to stop him because he's endangering innocent people, Bullseye is in it for money. With no other alternative, the two have to work together. Bullseye decides to play mind games with Elektra, convincing her that she's attracted to him despite their past (which she reluctantly agrees) and that he's the only person who can truly understand her, sharing minor bits of his own backstory that are NotSoDifferent from hers. Elektra has her own arc, probably connected to the villain's, where she realizes obsessing over people who hurt you is unhealthy even if they have it coming. That said, her attraction to Bullseye gets the better of her, resulting in her realizing something caused by one of their many "rematches"... she's pregnant.

A third Daredevil based on Born Again, with elements of Karen Page's death via Bullseye.

A third Elektra film where she encounters the Hand and must face Bullseye in one final rematch. Elektra gets her revenge for her father, but, much to Bullseye's enjoyment, her attraction to him grew and they had a daughter. Instead of frustration, Bullseye laughs at how he made this woman who hates him care for him and have a kid before dying. They named their daughter Rina, after the daughter she had with Wolverine in the MC2 universe, making her and Bullseye RelatedInTheAdaptation since the X-Men films would have been a separate universe.

One final film based loosely on the End of Days. Matt and Elektra reunite, but she doesn't tell him who the father of Rina is. They finally get together and have a son, Matt Jr. At the end of the film, Matt dies in his final battle with Fisk, he learns who Rina's father is but forgives Elektra before dying. In honor of him, Elektra gives up her assassin life-style to protect Hell's kitchen for him, raising Rina to follow her stepfather's footsteps.
23rd Jul '17 11:57:31 PM TitoMosquito
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[[WMG: Vapora from Daredevil vs Vapora #1 was a demon working for Mephisto]]

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[[WMG: Vapora from Daredevil ''Daredevil vs Vapora Vapora'' #1 was a demon working for Mephisto]]



Then took control of his criminal empire, like when he killed his employer Don Rigoletto in the comics.

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Then took control of his criminal empire, like when he killed his employer Don Rigoletto in the comics.
23rd Aug '15 12:33:44 AM TitoMosquito
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[[WMG: Wilson Fisk killed Fallon.]]

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[[WMG: Movie Wilson Fisk killed Fallon.]]]]
Then took control of his criminal empire, like when he killed his employer Don Rigoletto in the comics.
26th May '15 7:56:43 AM ablackraptor
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For the recent ''{{Netflix}}''-produced TV series, '''[[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} see here]]'''.

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For the recent ''{{Netflix}}''-produced TV series, '''[[Series/{{Daredevil series' WMG page, '''[[WMG/{{Daredevil 2015}} see here]]'''.
26th May '15 7:56:16 AM ablackraptor
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[[folder:The TV Series]]
[[WMG: Wilson Fisk murdered the hell out of Don Rigoletto]]
* In ''The Man Without Fear'' (the Frank Miller comic that most directly inspired the show's first season), Wilson Fisk was Rigoletto's bodyguard until he murdered him and became the Kingpin.
* Fisk's father borrowed money from Rigoletto to fund his political campaign, and was in deep when he lost the election.
* According to Wesley in the first episode, Fisk acquired Rigoletto's books after the Don "retired".
* According to Silvio (Ben Urich's mafia contact in the third episode), Rigoletto's "retirement" consisted of being killed and chopped into pieces.
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[[folder:The TV Series]]
[[WMG: Wilson Fisk murdered
For the hell out of Don Rigoletto]]
* In ''The Man Without Fear'' (the Frank Miller comic that most directly inspired the show's first season), Wilson Fisk was Rigoletto's bodyguard until he murdered him and became the Kingpin.
* Fisk's father borrowed money from Rigoletto to fund his political campaign, and was in deep when he lost the election.
* According to Wesley in the first episode, Fisk acquired Rigoletto's books after the Don "retired".
* According to Silvio (Ben Urich's mafia contact in the third episode), Rigoletto's "retirement" consisted of being killed and chopped into pieces.
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recent ''{{Netflix}}''-produced TV series, '''[[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} see here]]'''.



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20th Apr '15 1:40:05 AM Bronzethumb
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[[folder:The TV Series]]
[[WMG: Wilson Fisk murdered the hell out of Don Rigoletto]]
* In ''The Man Without Fear'' (the Frank Miller comic that most directly inspired the show's first season), Wilson Fisk was Rigoletto's bodyguard until he murdered him and became the Kingpin.
* Fisk's father borrowed money from Rigoletto to fund his political campaign, and was in deep when he lost the election.
* According to Wesley in the first episode, Fisk acquired Rigoletto's books after the Don "retired".
* According to Silvio (Ben Urich's mafia contact in the third episode), Rigoletto's "retirement" consisted of being killed and chopped into pieces.
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24th Jan '15 9:53:21 PM twingle93
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[[WMG: Wilson Fisk killed Fallon.]]

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[[WMG: Vapora from Daredevil vs Vapora #1 was a demon working for Mephisto]]

Since Vapora is an evil entity that feeds off pain, and Daredevil was fighting Mephisto at the time (and no other origin was given), it just makes sense that Mephisto would send such a being to cause trouble for Daredevil.



[[WMG: Wilson Fisk killed Fallon.]]]]
7th Jan '15 3:33:34 PM Discar
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[[WMG: Wilson Fisk killed Fallon.]]

[[WMG: In the Netflix show, Leland Owlsey will be a CompositeCharacter with either Don Rigoletto or Alexander Bont.]]
The rise of the Kingpin is likely to be one of the first season's main storylines, and the fact that he hasn't married Vanessa yet implies that the show will have Wilson Fisk early in his career. The age difference between Owlsey and Fisk makes it possible that Owlsey will start the show as the most powerful crime lord, but will eventually lose the position to Fisk.

[[WMG: Who is Peter Shinkoda's Hachiro? ]]
Since Hachiro doesn't appear to be an actual character from the comic, here's some speculation on who he may be.
* Hachiro is a fusion of both Bullseye and Lady Bullseye. He's Japanese like Lady Bullseye and shares her backstory, now involving Kingpin and a young boy, albeit condensed in a way that would explain why he would work for him like the original Bullseye.
* Hachiro is a lawyer who is working against Matt Murdock in a case involving a crook based on one of DD's lesser foes like Wilbur Day (Stiltman) or Melvin Potter (Gladiator). Note that this one can be combined with the first theory, due to Lady Bullseye's cover job in the comics.
* Hachiro is a "preacher" who recruits people into The Hand, reimagined as a Japanese cult that has recently opened a facility in New York City. He can trick his "converts" into committing heinous acts for the Kingpin, like the Hand also does for Yakuza bosses in Japan.
* Hachiro is Kingpin's wingman who helps him court Vanessa. He'll be a way to show the audience Fisk's less composed, human side. Will probably end up being killed in the crossfire of Fisk's conflicts with Matt, leading to a more personal reason for the Kingpin to kill the Daredevil.
* Hachiro is a criminal, native to New York, who Fisk hires to protect Vanessa from rivals who have learned of his affections for her.
* Hachiro is a Japanese tourist who suffers personal tragedy in New York because of Daredevil. His quest for revenge will cause him to become Ikari, who will turn up to be his main opponent in the Defenders series.

[[WMG: Vanessa will become pregnant with Richard Fisk, her son with Kingpin from the comics. ]]
There are a few different ways this could play out:
* Vanessa will shack up with Wilson and then give birth in the finale, possibly in a montage showing a long passage of time.
* Vanessa will reveal she's pregnant in the last episode, possibly just to confirm Richard's existence in the MCU.

[[WMG: Ben Urich's place in the plot. ]]

[[WMG: The Jester's civilian identity of John Powers will appear in an episode.]]
He'll be a struggling actor who is accused of theft. Matt and Foggy will refuse to defend him in court when he tries to hire them. Nothing big in the narrative, just a throwaway scene. Which would be a great pie in the face to the character.

[[WMG: Daredevil will switch into a red outfit at the story's midway point. ]]
He can say something like "I can't tell myself, but I hear that I look lousy in black." Of course, they'd have a more practical reason for him to change outfits at that point. The line would just reference how some fans reacted to the black outfit.

[[WMG: There will be an episode told from Urich's POV.]]
It will focus on Urich discovering Daredevil's identity, and will also have some flashbacks exploring Daredevil's backstory.

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[[WMG: Wilson Fisk killed Fallon.]]

[[WMG: In the Netflix show, Leland Owlsey will be a CompositeCharacter with either Don Rigoletto or Alexander Bont.]]
The rise of the Kingpin is likely to be one of the first season's main storylines, and the fact that he hasn't married Vanessa yet implies that the show will have Wilson Fisk early in his career. The age difference between Owlsey and Fisk makes it possible that Owlsey will start the show as the most powerful crime lord, but will eventually lose the position to Fisk.

[[WMG: Who is Peter Shinkoda's Hachiro? ]]
Since Hachiro doesn't appear to be an actual character from the comic, here's some speculation on who he may be.
* Hachiro is a fusion of both Bullseye and Lady Bullseye. He's Japanese like Lady Bullseye and shares her backstory, now involving Kingpin and a young boy, albeit condensed in a way that would explain why he would work for him like the original Bullseye.
* Hachiro is a lawyer who is working against Matt Murdock in a case involving a crook based on one of DD's lesser foes like Wilbur Day (Stiltman) or Melvin Potter (Gladiator). Note that this one can be combined with the first theory, due to Lady Bullseye's cover job in the comics.
* Hachiro is a "preacher" who recruits people into The Hand, reimagined as a Japanese cult that has recently opened a facility in New York City. He can trick his "converts" into committing heinous acts for the Kingpin, like the Hand also does for Yakuza bosses in Japan.
* Hachiro is Kingpin's wingman who helps him court Vanessa. He'll be a way to show the audience Fisk's less composed, human side. Will probably end up being killed in the crossfire of Fisk's conflicts with Matt, leading to a more personal reason for the Kingpin to kill the Daredevil.
* Hachiro is a criminal, native to New York, who Fisk hires to protect Vanessa from rivals who have learned of his affections for her.
* Hachiro is a Japanese tourist who suffers personal tragedy in New York because of Daredevil. His quest for revenge will cause him to become Ikari, who will turn up to be his main opponent in the Defenders series.

[[WMG: Vanessa will become pregnant with Richard Fisk, her son with Kingpin from the comics. ]]
There are a few different ways this could play out:
* Vanessa will shack up with Wilson and then give birth in the finale, possibly in a montage showing a long passage of time.
* Vanessa will reveal she's pregnant in the last episode, possibly just to confirm Richard's existence in the MCU.

[[WMG: Ben Urich's place in the plot. ]]

[[WMG: The Jester's civilian identity of John Powers will appear in an episode.]]
He'll be a struggling actor who is accused of theft. Matt and Foggy will refuse to defend him in court when he tries to hire them. Nothing big in the narrative, just a throwaway scene. Which would be a great pie in the face to the character.

[[WMG: Daredevil will switch into a red outfit at the story's midway point. ]]
He can say something like "I can't tell myself, but I hear that I look lousy in black." Of course, they'd have a more practical reason for him to change outfits at that point. The line would just reference how some fans reacted to the black outfit.

[[WMG: There will be an episode told from Urich's POV.]]
It will focus on Urich discovering Daredevil's identity, and will also have some flashbacks exploring Daredevil's backstory.
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7th Jan '15 3:37:32 AM Gwalch
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He can say something like "I can't tell myself, but I hear that I look lousy in black." Of course, they'd have a more practical reason for him to change outfits at that point. The line would just reference how some fans reacted to the black outfit.

to:

He can say something like "I can't tell myself, but I hear that I look lousy in black." Of course, they'd have a more practical reason for him to change outfits at that point. The line would just reference how some fans reacted to the black outfit.outfit.

[[WMG: There will be an episode told from Urich's POV.]]
It will focus on Urich discovering Daredevil's identity, and will also have some flashbacks exploring Daredevil's backstory.
30th Dec '14 10:43:50 AM GrowenN
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[[Daredevil will switch into a red outfit at the story's midway point. ]]

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[[Daredevil [[WMG: Daredevil will switch into a red outfit at the story's midway point. ]]
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