History WMG / BlackButler

...who made a DealWithTheDevil to become stronger, and gained demonic powers in exchange for his humanity. He fits the physical description of the average Uchiha, as a {{Bishounen}} with black hair and red eyes. He's also familiar with throwing knives (a skill with kunai carrying on into his demonic life). For added irony, his original name as a human was Uchiha Akuma, making his CatchPhrase a double pun.

This is based off of the "Shinigami OVA." Since the Toboso has been known to utilize plot devices [[FollowTheLeader from the anime]], this doesn't at all seem farfetched. My theory is that William fell in love with a human woman who died, but he somehow got her to be [[ReincarnationRomance reincarnated]]...[[SubvertedTrope only to have her completely forget about him in return]]. It's the reason he's so [[TheStoic stoic and cold]], and why he tells Ronald that "bringing your emotions into your job is a waste of time." The entire ordeal left him rather emotionless and bothered. Bonus points if the reason he hates being called "Will" is because the woman he once loved used to call him that.

It's no secret that Yana Toboso at least has an AuthorAppeal for Yaoi, however has stated in several interviews that Sebastian X Ciel is a case of MisaimedFandom and that it's not true love especially since demon or not a thirteen-year-old is rather...{{Squick}}y to some people. Enter Baron Kelvin and former Lord Trancy from the anime. Both are middle aged men that are rather repulsive-looking (with Kelvin being this way due to plastic surgery caused by body dysmorphia) who are also [[PaedoHunt pedophiles]]. Likely a jab at how people seem to accept questionable relationships with older men due to said older men being usually very attractive. Lord Trancy takes this even further by not only being a pedophile, but had an entire Harem of young boys as {{Sex Slave}}s and it's not completely out of the question that '''[[ParentalIncest Jim Macken actually is Alois]]''', especially since he still had to pretend to be him as a cover story.

With all the raven symbolism, the interpretation that he is meant to be Malphas (a black [[BuffySpeak bird...thing]]), and the guess directly above (that Sebastian's true form is an EldritchAbomination with AlienGeometries), this is the [[InsaneTrollLogic logical]] conclusion.

* It could be a coincidence as LittleBitBeastly seems to be present in almost all of Toboso's works, including ''VideoGame/TwistedWonderland'' with Savanaclaw. Though given what's happened in ''Black Butler'', which ''does'' feature human trafficking (and cases where the perps don't get caught at that...the Viscount, anyone?), demi-humans being captured then turned into sex slaves in the future doesn't sound too far off.

He passed on the name to his gardener who did share some similar past trauma and, he used it as his alias while undercover in the circus. It's entirely possible that it used to be his name before he [[spoiler:assumed his dead twin's identity]]

[[WMG:Soma will return in Blue Revenge Arc once the story focus on Ciel and Sebestian's side]]

** Soma will either return with army from India after he murder his father and his older half-siblings and claims his right to the throne in order to [[spoiler:avenge Agni.]] This may result in a war between India and England. However, he will spare some of his younger half-siblings to join his army.

* Soma's main goal is to kill to one who [[spoiler:murder Agni, which means he's either planning to kill either the real Ciel, the other Ciel or both since he doesn't care which one responsible for Agni's death.]] Once he got his revenge, he's planning to kill himself, thinking he will join [[spoiler:Agni in the afterlife.]] However, unknown to him, killing himself will result him turning into a Grim Reaper and spend his entire life atoning his sins.

[[spoiler:the reincarnated soul of]] Sephiroth from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasy7''.

* They are also in love with characters played by [[Creator/NoriakiSugiyama Noriaki Sugiyama]].

[[WMG: Alois, his brother, Claude, Hannah, and the three other demons did end up "together forever"... as the cast of boku no pico]]
(Bear in mind I haven't actually seen that show, and am trying to reconcile its horror with a reality that doesn't condone child abuse and fetishization). So at the end of Black Butler II, Alois made the wish that he and the others would always be together. That didn't really make sense, what with demons eating people's souls, not keeping them. I propose that somehow, the group ended up as the cast of boku no pico, which is eternal torment. From what I've seen, that show features a blonde child (Alois) and brown-haired/ginger child (Luka) a black haired adult (Claude) a female (Hannah) and another black haired male (Claude of the three demons).

** Fangirls would like to think that he just fingered them. His scene with Beast is rather ambiguous, but it's pretty obvious that he at least had penetrative sex with the nun. Also, all over Kuro fandom, Sebastian ''always'' has sex fully clothed. I'm pretty sure that it's canon that he doesn't like being naked around humans, so there's that, too. [[spoiler: It is canon, as quote "However, the first time in my long life as a demon... that I ended up showing humans such a humiliating state. [they were looking for Ciel's master key, so they de-robed him.] while explaining to Wordsmith about the solution of the Phantomhive Murder Mystery, in chapter 49.]]

[[WMG: Or, Faustus and Alois are related to {{TheFairFolk}}]]

** [[spoiler:Confirmed as of episode 11.]]

** Semi-confirmed as of episode 10. [[spoiler: Alois]] is back, [[spoiler: in Ciel's body]].

[[WMG: Alois is the alternate of Oz from Pandora Hearts]]

**Ooh! Ooh! I only just thought of this! Does Philippe grow up to be Ciel?

*** OP: No she didn't. We only saw Sebastian give out packages to Undertaker, Lau, and Soma + Agni. Plus, Mary Sue isn't defined by everybody liking a person. Though, I did leave it as a YMMV. You may not think she's a Sue, but there are people in the Black Butler community do. It's all based on matter of opinion.

When the story Lau tells Ran-Mao is true and he actually is that Zhou he is talking about, then it could be possible that like Ciel he had sold his soul to a devil, just with the twist that he could get a little (super-strong)sister that would do anything for him and follow him everywhere he goes.
** Sister? You DO realize Lau means something else, right?
*** Lau means what exactly?
** It would explain her [[CuteBruiser fighting skills]]. And those cat ear shaped odango could be hiding demon horns.

[[EpilepticTrees Why Not?]] It's possible that he [[spoiler: was wished into being/ wished himself to become a demon, much like Ciel in the anime.]] Another possibility is that he was (most likely unwillingly) turned into a demon by another cult. His Extreme loyalty to Ciel could be a parallel to a strong devotion he had to someone while he was human and/or the last empty remnants of his personality after a ''horrifying'' dose of BreakTheCutie. As for the reference to the black death, he has either been a demon for hundreds of years (This would explain his AntiquatedLinguistics) or is straight up lying. Demons aren't the most honest creatures in the world. I'm rather new to the series, so let me know if this is {{Jossed}} already, and please don't get angry if it is! >__<

* as of chapter 61 there seems to be some truth to this. At least the nearsighted part was confirmed although if they are aware of more "dimensions" or something like it, it's probably not through sight as [[spoiler: Undertaker said to Ronald "you seem to relying on your eyes"]] .

[[WMG:Grell Sutcliff is related to Death the Kid from [[Manga/SoulEater ]]

** Support. For extra {{WMG}}, the woman who died/he possibly killed was Rachel, Ciel's mother.
** If recent events are anything to go by, it's more likely that this WMG ''is'' accurate- but instead of Rachel, the woman was Claudia Phantomhive- Ciel's grandmother.

Sebastian will be [[{{Squick}} squicked.]] Or maybe he'll like it. [[TrollingCreator Who even knows with this series sometimes.]]

When the real Ciel was in captivity, he befriended another prisoner who looked almost exactly like him, a la Literature/ThePrinceAndThePauper. The real Ciel was killed by the cultists, and his doppelganger took his place as Ciel Phantomhive.

**Semi-confirmed as of Chapter 90. No confirmation on the 'Prince and the Pauper', though.
*** I do think this is a possibility. Especially considering the latest Manga Arc. However there are still several things that cannot readily be explained, such as Not-Ciel recognising Tanaka in the hospital (although he did call him Grandpa), knowing a lot about the Phantomhive family history (including Ciel's Dog's name), and claiming to have met several people during Ciel's childhood (such as Baron Kelvin). Which to leads to another WMG...
*** Honestly, I suspect a situation somewhat similar to Ryougi Shiki from [[LightNovel/{{TheGardenOfSinners}} Kara no Kyoukai]]. The works are fairly different in most respects, but you could make a case for certain points, i.e. a rather particular type of loss leading to obtaining a form of power.

[[WMG: Yana Toboso is a Bleach fan.]]

I mean, come on, the Undertaker loves the guy.[[spoiler:He'd totally take him for an apprentice]]. Plus, it's possible that his soul will no longer be 'human' after said event occurs, allowing him to loophole his way out of the contract.

* Depending on the nature of some of the things that have happened and the exact nature of the contract and a broken contract (I'm not perfectly up-to-date on the manga, so this may not count), it may even be possible that Sebastian already broke the contract and is using a considerable fraction of his power to imitate a valid contract. Selfishly, he can guide Ciel's orders through him to his own ends, in a large yet subtle multi-stage plan like [[spoiler: Father]]'s multi-generation plan for [[spoiler: Amestris]] in ''Full Metal Alchemist''. Benevolently, he could just be in the demon version of whatever passes for (hopefully platonic) love with Ciel.

There are a lot of differences between the two continuities in both plot and characterization. And sure, Ash and Angela were a FillerVillain thrown in for the sake of the anime's first season GeckoEnding. And no, their presence [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere didn't make much sense]], nor [[FanDislikedExplanation was their goal clarified much]] [[GenericDoomsdayVillain beyond standard antagonism]] labeled as "[[PureIsNotGood purity]]". But the anime was also spot on about a few things, like Undertaker being a Shinigami (though he's [[DarkIsNotEvil much friendlier there]] [[PsychopathicManchild than in the manga]]). The presence of angels in the manga!verse is entirely reasonable, though whether they'll be [[KnightTemplar Knight Templars]] or [[HeroAntagonist Hero Antagonists]] is anyone's guess.
* A similar theory, adding to it that Queen Victoria's butlers (or Earl Grey, at least) are actually angels. It would also explain their general white appearance while Sebastian, a demon, leans towards [[TallDarkAndHandsome all black.]] Atthe very least, those gus abilities are far beyond any human, even a superhuman like Agni. There's also the blatant distrust that Earl Grey seems to feel towards Sebastian during the Murder arc: it could be because he can somehow sense his demonic nature.

** Highly unlikely, as it's been confirmed that all Reapers have the same (highly unusual) color of eyes. [[spoiler: Undertaker]] had to hide [[spoiler: his]] eyes in order to avoid being discovered. If Meirin was a reaper, somebody probably would have commented.
** Reapers are [[spoiler: humans who have killed themselves]], so unless you want ''that''...

** Considering Madame Red's connection to Grell, it seems that there might be something supernatural going on in that family.
** Angelina and Lizzie aren't related though? (Unless you meant something supernatural is probably going on in both sides of Ciel's family.)
** Grell was brandishing what was clearly a weapon at Sebastian and behaving in a threatening manner towards him. This troper just assumed Lizzie thought she would be a threat to Ciel as well. Additionally, if Lizzie can sense who is and isn't a supernatural being, why has she not seemed to notice Sebastian isn't human?

** Jossed, sadly.

** [[spoiler:Not just "some monster", the Literature/{{Jabberwock|y}}! Incoming Alice arc? Well, we can dream....

* Oh, let's count the signs. First, he's an IronButtMonkey who, somehow, still has a high position. Second, his constantly [[TheKlutz falling over anything and everything]] is practically a physical SuspiciouslySpecificDenial in and of itself; the man basically screams "Hey everybody! [[ObfuscatingStupidity I'm stupid and follow the rules without question!]] I can't walk five feet without nearly killing myself! [[WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers IGNORE ME]]!" Then there's the fact that he's fallen down the stairs at least once, and had it been a little less [[SlapstickComedy slapstick]], [[MajorInjuryUnderreaction would've probably snapped his neck]]. A human ''could not'' have survived that. Finally ''and most importantly'', [[GeniusBonus his name]]. [[Literature/ArsGoetia Look it up]].

AmbiguouslyHuman ,introduced in a wolf-themed arc, and called a "guard dog." Now for him to reveal he is actually a canine and join the Phantomhive manor.

* As much as this one makes me pouty, given my Headcanons about [[spoiler:why the Undertaker initially committed suicide]], I'll be a good sport: this is supported by the German Reapers' off-handed comments in (I believe) chapter 105 about how [[Main/InvisibleToNormals most humans usually can't see reapers.]]

** Maybe he got his scales from a failed attempt to turn him into a Kishin?

His LethalCook is even named Baldroy; this can't be a coincidence. Both families are even in cahoots with royalty.

[[spoiler:the reincarnated soul of]] Sephiroth from Final Fantasy 7.

** The idea that the stars represent blood types is pretty much confirmed by Sullivan.

[[WMG: Baron Kelvin and the former Lord Trancy are a TakeThatAudience and Toboso isn't really a paedopjile]]
It's no secret that Yana Toboso at least has an AuthorAppeal for Yaoi, however has stated in several interviews that Sebastian X Ciel is a case of MisaimedFandom and that it's not true love especially since demon or not a thirteen-year-old is rather...{{Squick}}y to some people. Enter Baron Kelvin and former Lord Trancy from the anime. Both are middle aged men that are rather repulsive-looking (with Kelvin being this way due to plastic surgery caused by body dysmorphia) who are also [[PaedoHunt pedophiles]]. Likely a jab at how people seem to accept questionable relationships with older men due to said older men being usually very attractive. Lord Trancy takes this even further by not only being a pedophile ,but had an entire Harem of young boys as [[SexSlave Sex Slaves]] and it's not completely out of the question that '''[[ParentalIncest Jim Macken actually is Alois]]''', especially since he still had to pretend to be him as a cover story.

[[WMG: Kuroshitsuji takes place in the same world as the ''Ma Cherie'' chapter from Glamorous Lip...]]

** It could be a coincidence as LittleBitBeastly seems to be present in almost all of Toboso's works, including ''VideoGame/TwistedWonderland'' with Savanaclaw. Though given what's happened in Kuroshitsuji, which ''does'' feature human trafficking (and cases where the perps don't get caught at that...the Viscount, anyone?), demi-humans being captured then turned into sex slaves in the future doesn't sound too far off.

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Our!Ciel's real name is Finnian.]]]]

[[folder: Settled through vol. 20]]


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They're just completely AxCrazy and want to burn everything to the ground [[IncrediblyLamePun for the hell of it.]] All their talk about making everything "pure" was just insane rambling.

* Confirmed. Their servant roles are secondary to their roles asnhis private army and they were each hired for their killing prowess.

* Jossed. Sebastian didn't manifest in the world until after thr initial sacrifice, so there ws no way for him to be involved. He also wouldn't agree to a contract that would culminate in his own death, he's not stupid.

* [[spoiler: In chapter 62, it is shown that Sebastian merely conjured the form up because he wanted to 'suit the servant of an earl'. He didn't even know Vincent when he made his form, nor did Ciel instruct him to look like his late father, so that's another theory Jossed.]]

** Jossed; [[spoiler: we see Tanaka in the hospital after Sebastian saves Ciel from the kidnappers.]]

[[WMG:The skeleton on Undertaker's scythe is a real one and not just for decoration.]]

* Bard's going to realise that the sinister feeling he gets from Sebastien is more than just a feeling and start to put together that he's some supernatural, malevolent entity, and try to do something about it. Most likely, he'll die in the process.

I saw this basic Sebastian = Malphas suggestion elsewhere on the Internet; here is a version with more detail. I shall compare text from the rather terse article from Wiki/TheOtherWiki with how Sebastian has appeared in ''Manga/BlackButler''.

* Gardener - CuteBruiser due to experimentation ([[Manga/RanmaOneHalf super soba]] with a side of [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk gamma rays]]?) [[spoiler: Is currently about to HULK SMASH! an intruder due to trespassers in Phantomhive Manor being a BerserkButton]]

[[WMG: Grell is the bastard daughter of [[Manga/Naruto Suigetsu and Karin]] ]]

They both are rich kids with [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair purple hair]], golden eyes, a somewhat excentric yet nice personality and a [[BodyguardCrush very]] [[SingleTargetSexuality special]] [[HoYay relationship]] with their bodyguard.

It's no secret that Yana Toboso at least has an AuthorAppeal for [[YaoiGuys Yaoi]], however has stated in several interviews that Sebastian X Ciel is a case of MisaimedFandom and that it's not true love especially since demon or not a thirteen-year-old is rather...{{Squick}}y to some people. Enter Baron Kelvin and former Lord Trancy from the anime. Both are middle aged men that are rather repulsive-looking (with Kelvin being this way due to plastic surgery caused by body dysmorphia) who are also [[PaedoHunt pedophiles]]. Likely a jab at how people seem to accept questionable relationships with older men due to said older men being usually very attractive. Lord Trancy takes this even further by not only being a pedophile ,but had an entire Harem of young boys as [[SexSlave Sex Slaves]] and it's not completely out of the question that '''[[ParentalIncest Jim Macken actually is Alois]]''', especially since he still had to pretend to be him as a cover story.