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7th Jan '17 3:22:49 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Caim from {{VideoGame/Drakengard}} is Guts' and Casca's child]]

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[[WMG: Caim from {{VideoGame/Drakengard}} ''{{VideoGame/Drakengard}}'' is Guts' and Casca's child]]



Maybe I've been watching too much ''{{The Legend of Korra}}'' (which turn was probably inspired by ''{{Star Wars}}'', and isn't Miura a ''Star Wars'' fan?), but I thought it'd be interesting if what the Petal Storm King gave Casca was spiritual and existential guidance to help her overcome her collective trauma and struggles. It'd be a perfect opportunity to give her some more arc development apart from Guts, and I think the two of them having a dramatic confrontation over what he did to her would be good catalyst toward her spiritual journey, as well as being a good close when she's ready to confront him once again (a la symbolic sword fight, as always.

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Maybe I've been watching too much ''{{The ''WesternAnimation/{{The Legend of Korra}}'' (which turn was probably inspired by ''{{Star Wars}}'', and isn't Miura a ''Star Wars'' fan?), but I thought it'd be interesting if what the Petal Storm King gave Casca was spiritual and existential guidance to help her overcome her collective trauma and struggles. It'd be a perfect opportunity to give her some more arc development apart from Guts, and I think the two of them having a dramatic confrontation over what he did to her would be good catalyst toward her spiritual journey, as well as being a good close when she's ready to confront him once again (a la symbolic sword fight, as always.
22nd Dec '16 11:22:49 AM Morgenthaler
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* {{Badass}}? Check.

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* {{Badass}}? Badass? Check.



Given that he's acting as the MessianicArchetype, it certainly wouldn't do for people to go around claiming he used hideous evil monsters to do his work for him, as he similarly demonstrated on Gannon. Zodd will survive, and join Guts until the day of reckoning occurs in a singularity of {{Badass}}ery.

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Given that he's acting as the MessianicArchetype, it certainly wouldn't do for people to go around claiming he used hideous evil monsters to do his work for him, as he similarly demonstrated on Gannon. Zodd will survive, and join Guts until the day of reckoning occurs in a singularity of {{Badass}}ery.
badassery.



* The ultimate one: Guts accomplishes all those while saving his friends and preventing Casca from being damaged, proving that he's the ultimate, unstoppable {{Badass}} of Midland.

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* The ultimate one: Guts accomplishes all those while saving his friends and preventing Casca from being damaged, proving that he's the ultimate, unstoppable {{Badass}} badass of Midland.
18th Nov '16 4:52:42 AM KingClark
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** At this point, one could write an entire thesis about the sheer number of ways that rape scene crossed the {{MoralEventHorizon}} and you would still miss out on a few subtle aspects.

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** At this point, one could write an entire thesis about the sheer number of ways that rape scene crossed the {{MoralEventHorizon}} MoralEventHorizon and you would still miss out on a few subtle aspects.
18th Nov '16 4:50:40 AM KingClark
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Think about it. The very purpose reason [[spoiler: The Idea of Evil]] exists is just to cause humans to suffer. Now, going back to the initial story arcs of Berserk,excluding Golden Age and ending at the Tower of Conviction, Guts has pretty much been [[HeroWithBadPublicity vilified by the people he ended up saving]]. Now, if I was the embodiment of humanity's evil, I'd see potential in Guts and manipulate ''everyone''for the sake of spurning mankind to suffer more. Hence why it allowed Griffith to go against its purpose and become [[MessianicArchetype a messiah]] to the people. For the sole purpose of having the Falcon of Light (and probably the rest of Femto's fellow demons) be struck down in front of his followers and let the world plummet into despair.

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Think about it. The very purpose reason [[spoiler: The Idea of Evil]] exists is just to cause humans to suffer. Now, going back to the initial story arcs of Berserk,excluding Golden Age and ending at the Tower of Conviction, Guts has pretty much been [[HeroWithBadPublicity vilified by the people he ended up saving]]. Now, if I was the embodiment of humanity's evil, I'd see potential in Guts and manipulate ''everyone''for ''everyone'' for the sake of spurning mankind to suffer more. Hence why it allowed Griffith to go against its purpose and become [[MessianicArchetype a messiah]] to the people. For the sole purpose of having the Falcon of Light (and probably the rest of Femto's fellow demons) be struck down in front of his followers and let the world plummet into despair.
18th Nov '16 4:49:43 AM KingClark
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Think about it. The very purpose reason [[spoiler: The Idea of Evil]] exists is just to cause humans to suffer. Now, going back to the initial story arcs of Berserk,excluding Golden Age and ending at the Tower of Conviction, Guts has pretty much been [[HerowithBadPublicity vilified by the people he ended up saving]]. Now, if I was the embodiment of humanity's evil, I'd see potential in Guts and manipulate ''everyone''for the sake of spurning mankind to suffer more. Hence why it allowed Griffith to go against its purpose and become [[MessianicArchetype a messiah]] to the people. For the sole purpose of having the Falcon of Light (and probably the rest of Femto's fellow demons) be struck down in front of his followers and let the world plummet into despair.

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Think about it. The very purpose reason [[spoiler: The Idea of Evil]] exists is just to cause humans to suffer. Now, going back to the initial story arcs of Berserk,excluding Golden Age and ending at the Tower of Conviction, Guts has pretty much been [[HerowithBadPublicity [[HeroWithBadPublicity vilified by the people he ended up saving]]. Now, if I was the embodiment of humanity's evil, I'd see potential in Guts and manipulate ''everyone''for the sake of spurning mankind to suffer more. Hence why it allowed Griffith to go against its purpose and become [[MessianicArchetype a messiah]] to the people. For the sole purpose of having the Falcon of Light (and probably the rest of Femto's fellow demons) be struck down in front of his followers and let the world plummet into despair.
3rd Oct '16 12:42:26 PM jokevv
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27th Sep '16 9:31:51 PM backpack
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* Someone mentioned above that Griffith my sacrifice her, using his status as a member of the Godhand to bend the rules to allow the sacrifice (since she's not really a "loved one")...however, strictly speaking no rule bending would be required for HER TO SACRIFICE HIM!!!!! The trigger for this would likely be the realization that he never loved her. This realization would likely also turn her into a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, trying to euthanize the entire universe so that no one else would ever have to feel a broken heart like hers.

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* Someone mentioned above that Griffith my may sacrifice her, using his status as a member of the Godhand to bend the rules to allow the sacrifice (since she's not really a "loved one")...however, strictly speaking no rule bending would be required for HER TO SACRIFICE HIM!!!!! The trigger for this would likely be the realization that he never loved her. This realization would likely also turn her into a WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, trying to euthanize the entire universe so that no one else would ever have to feel a broken heart like hers.
20th Aug '16 4:02:12 AM PurpleAlert
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Surviving his mother's hanging, getting picked up by mercenaries twice, even winning when gambling with his soldiers. Guts has displayed luck that's unusual.

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Surviving his mother's hanging, getting picked up by mercenaries twice, even winning when gambling with his soldiers. Guts has displayed luck that's unusual.unusual.

[[WMG: If the series is ever completed, it'll have a happy ending.]]

The Idea of Evil exists because people needed a reason for their suffering, but that doesn't mean they want something to actively make them suffer. The "reason" they need isn't "What is making me suffer?", the reason is "What is ''the point of'' my suffering?" The Idea of Evil's plan is not to make everyone miserable for no reason, that would go against its purpose. Its plan is to force all of humanity to endure a degree of suffering that they feel would be a fair trade for an amount of happiness, it's just that there's a huge disparity between the value of happiness and the value of pain: offer someone fifty bucks if they'll let you cut off one of their toes, and they'll probably tell you to piss off; offer them a million, and you'd get at least a few takers. Offer to make sure that they, their friends, and their family are all set for life, and they might gladly offer you their whole leg. The thing is, the Idea of Evil is the only figure that knows the exchange rate and it doesn't ask permission or consent, so to everyone in the Berserk universe, it's just an insane amount of suffering with no apparent benefit.
13th Jul '16 5:59:36 PM yecasux10
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Especially when the game they're in is meant to make the player feel like a completely unstoppable OneManArmy... Yep, Guts is already one, but surely the player will want it that not even demons can stop them...

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Especially when the game they're in is meant to make the player feel like a completely unstoppable OneManArmy... Yep, Guts is already one, but surely the player will want it that not even demons can stop them...them...

[[WMG: Guts is supernaturally lucky.]]
Surviving his mother's hanging, getting picked up by mercenaries twice, even winning when gambling with his soldiers. Guts has displayed luck that's unusual.
7th Jul '16 5:33:53 AM Morgenthaler
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My belief is indeed that the Skull Knight IS the Petal Storm King and he's just acting as Guts' CynicalMentor in order to test his mettle and to help him unleash his full potential, in order for him not to do the same mistakes he did back in the days. He might be an [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan]] to Guts in the end and ''will'' help him bringing Casca back.

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My belief is indeed that the Skull Knight IS the Petal Storm King and he's just acting as Guts' CynicalMentor in order to test his mettle and to help him unleash his full potential, in order for him not to do the same mistakes he did back in the days. He might be an [[TheObiWan Obi-Wan]] a mentor to Guts in the end and ''will'' help him bringing Casca back.
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