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13th Jun '17 11:41:15 PM jormis29
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[[WMG: Bayonetta is [[{{Exalted}} an Exalt.]]]]

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[[WMG: Bayonetta is [[{{Exalted}} [[TabletopGame/{{Exalted}} an Exalt.]]]]
3rd Jun '17 3:04:02 PM nombretomado
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Namely, to Creator/{{Sega}} for a number of mismanagements of P*'s properties and to fans who are protesting its WiiU exclusivity.

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Namely, to Creator/{{Sega}} for a number of mismanagements of P*'s properties and to fans who are protesting its WiiU UsefulNotes/WiiU exclusivity.
4th Jan '17 7:39:04 PM TheOrbOfConfusion
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* A younger, time-displaced Luka, who on account of his crucial actions as an adult, like carrying Loki to Fimbulventr needs to be returned to his own time alive so that his future can play out as it's supposed to.
7th Aug '16 11:44:07 PM Sally777
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I know, it sounds weird, but think about it. Loki is capable of causing past events to happen once again, is capable of manipulating the Remembrances of Time, and even managed to use Time Travel to go 500 years into the future, abit losing his memories in the process. On the other hand, Loptr is seen scrying upon Bayonetta's fight with Valor, and makes use of astral projections of himself to fight rather than going himself. He also makes heavy use of Telekenesis, which is a good indicator for a SpaceMaster.

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I know, it sounds weird, but think about it. Loki is capable of causing past events to happen once again, is capable of manipulating the Remembrances of Time, Time[[spoiler:, and even managed to use Time Travel to go 500 years into the future, abit losing his memories in the process.process]]. On the other hand, Loptr is seen scrying upon Bayonetta's fight with Valor, and makes use of astral projections of himself to fight rather than going himself. He also makes heavy use of Telekenesis, which is a good indicator for a SpaceMaster.
7th Aug '16 11:43:05 PM Sally777
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* Ed and/or Edna who're for some reason tagging along on Bayonetta's new journey after a 10~ year time skip.

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* Ed and/or Edna who're for some reason tagging along on Bayonetta's new journey after a 10~ year time skip.skip.

[[WMG: Loptr controls Space and Loki controls Time, and together they are the power of Nothingness.]]
I know, it sounds weird, but think about it. Loki is capable of causing past events to happen once again, is capable of manipulating the Remembrances of Time, and even managed to use Time Travel to go 500 years into the future, abit losing his memories in the process. On the other hand, Loptr is seen scrying upon Bayonetta's fight with Valor, and makes use of astral projections of himself to fight rather than going himself. He also makes heavy use of Telekenesis, which is a good indicator for a SpaceMaster.

Even though they seem to specialize in one type of SpaceMaster or TimeMaster, it also seems like they have some aspects of the opposite's power. Loki is capable of creating shields or teleporting within Bayonetta, and [[spoiler:Loptr is capable of bringing Young Balder to the present time, but not capable of following Loki's Time Travel]]. Now to ask, how does Space and Time make up Nothingness?

In using TimeMaster abilities, it's possible to move things outside of the flow of time. In using SpaceMaster abilities, it's possible to move things out of reach of anyone who would ever want to get them. Put those two together, and what do you get? The ability to place something out of anyone's reach no matter what methods they use to try and get it. The power to erase things from existence, and hence the [[PoweroftheVoid power of Nothingness.]]
24th Jun '16 1:57:03 PM MarqFJA
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* '''Bayonetta''': Shinji's envisionment of the Eva units and the maternal figures in his life like Misatao and Rei. Extremely strong and sexual dominant females who can defeat any Angel, and with a force of personality/will he secretly wishes he could have. [[spoiler:And the one who forcibly rejected Gendo's plans for their own.]]

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* '''Bayonetta''': Shinji's envisionment of the Eva units and the maternal figures in his life like Misatao Misato and Rei. Extremely strong and sexual dominant females who can defeat any Angel, and with a force of personality/will he secretly wishes he could have. [[spoiler:And the one who forcibly rejected Gendo's plans for their own.]]



* '''Jublies''': More or less Angel Rei in a nutshell.

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* '''Jublies''': '''Jublieus''': More or less Angel Rei in a nutshell.
2nd Jun '16 2:38:43 PM nombretomado
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** Hey, Dante was a SecretCharacter in the PS2 version of the first ''Viewtiful Joe'', and the spirit of his Alastor sword from the first game is a recurring character in the ''Viewtiful Joe'' series, so it's not farfetched by any means. While not necessarily canon, ''VideoGame/{{Namco x Capcom}}'' and ''[[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 MvC3]]'' run with a similar premise connecting several Capcom series (such as ''VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}}'' and ''VideoGame/GhostsNGoblins'', among others).

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** Hey, Dante was a SecretCharacter in the PS2 [=PS2=] version of the first ''Viewtiful Joe'', and the spirit of his Alastor sword from the first game is a recurring character in the ''Viewtiful Joe'' series, so it's not farfetched by any means. While not necessarily canon, ''VideoGame/{{Namco x Capcom}}'' and ''[[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 MvC3]]'' run with a similar premise connecting several Capcom series (such as ''VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}}'' and ''VideoGame/GhostsNGoblins'', among others).
24th Dec '15 11:00:55 PM Bravetriforcer
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[[WMG: In Bayonetta 3, the new "Little One" will be in their late teens]]

Bayonetta 1 - Cereza, a toddler/young child, is the Little One.

Bayonetta 2 - Loki, a pre-teen or young teen, is the Little One.

Bayonetta 3 - Bayonetta will spend the game teasing and bonding with a teenager or possibly young adult.

Options can include:

* Loki after he's grown a bit older.
* A new upstart paranormal hunter. Not necessarily part of or related to either clan but still a rookie looking to become a great demon/angel hunter. Possibly after some unseen event between games reveals the whole Heaven vs Hell stuff to the public and humanity decides to stand as its own faction.
* [[BadassFamily Bayonetta's actual son or daughter]]. Especially if they took after Luka (Assuming he ended up being the dad), since that can bring nicknames like "Cheshire Kitten" into the mix.
* Ed and/or Edna who're for some reason tagging along on Bayonetta's new journey after a 10~ year time skip.
10th Dec '15 9:00:21 AM Morgenthaler
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Both have Angels as enemies, an AncientConspiracy, and FlyMeToTheMoon as a recurring theme (there's probably other similarities, but I'm not familiar with the series). Bayonetta herself also looks like a grown-up version of Mari Illustrious Makinami.

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Both have Angels as enemies, an AncientConspiracy, and FlyMeToTheMoon Fly Me To The Moon as a recurring theme (there's probably other similarities, but I'm not familiar with the series). Bayonetta herself also looks like a grown-up version of Mari Illustrious Makinami.
8th Nov '15 10:20:38 AM EndlessKng
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[[WMG: Jeanne had commissioned Rodin to make Alruna as a Christmas present for Bayonetta, which is why she went after the two of them.]]
Alruna is one of the few weapons in either game not obtained through a Golden LP, but Rodin doesn't seem to be charging Bayonetta for weapon at all (theoretically, the reason he didn't charge for the others was because the trip to Inferno led him fighting a ton of other demons, and collecting their orbs as a result and as a sort of payment). Yet, he mentions it as a "payday," even though he just GIVES it to her. Why would he do that?

Someone else paid already - Jeanne. Rodin was working on it already and had been for what seems like some time when the game begins, meaning he'd at least been given a retainer of some sort. This also explains why Alraune wants to kill Bayonetta and Jeanne; at some point, word gets to her that an Umbra Witch has called for her destruction and conversion into a weapon (essentially slavery, as well as AndIMustScream territory), and while the power she'd gain by devouring one or the other isn't inconsiderable, it's also essential to avoid having her plans destroyed by a demon weaponsmith who had basically never failed to obtain the soul of a demon for his weapons before. That's why she sets Gomorrah free; that was her first chance to go after them.
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