History WMG / Bayonetta

24th Dec '15 11:00:55 PM Bravetriforcer
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[[WMG: In Bayonetta 3, the new "Little One" will be in their late teens]]

Bayonetta 1 - Cereza, a toddler/young child, is the Little One.

Bayonetta 2 - Loki, a pre-teen or young teen, is the Little One.

Bayonetta 3 - Bayonetta will spend the game teasing and bonding with a teenager or possibly young adult.

Options can include:

* Loki after he's grown a bit older.
* A new upstart paranormal hunter. Not necessarily part of or related to either clan but still a rookie looking to become a great demon/angel hunter. Possibly after some unseen event between games reveals the whole Heaven vs Hell stuff to the public and humanity decides to stand as its own faction.
* [[BadassFamily Bayonetta's actual son or daughter]]. Especially if they took after Luka (Assuming he ended up being the dad), since that can bring nicknames like "Cheshire Kitten" into the mix.
* Ed and/or Edna who're for some reason tagging along on Bayonetta's new journey after a 10~ year time skip.
10th Dec '15 9:00:21 AM Morgenthaler
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Both have Angels as enemies, an AncientConspiracy, and FlyMeToTheMoon as a recurring theme (there's probably other similarities, but I'm not familiar with the series). Bayonetta herself also looks like a grown-up version of Mari Illustrious Makinami.

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Both have Angels as enemies, an AncientConspiracy, and FlyMeToTheMoon Fly Me To The Moon as a recurring theme (there's probably other similarities, but I'm not familiar with the series). Bayonetta herself also looks like a grown-up version of Mari Illustrious Makinami.
8th Nov '15 10:20:38 AM EndlessKng
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[[WMG: Jeanne had commissioned Rodin to make Alruna as a Christmas present for Bayonetta, which is why she went after the two of them.]]
Alruna is one of the few weapons in either game not obtained through a Golden LP, but Rodin doesn't seem to be charging Bayonetta for weapon at all (theoretically, the reason he didn't charge for the others was because the trip to Inferno led him fighting a ton of other demons, and collecting their orbs as a result and as a sort of payment). Yet, he mentions it as a "payday," even though he just GIVES it to her. Why would he do that?

Someone else paid already - Jeanne. Rodin was working on it already and had been for what seems like some time when the game begins, meaning he'd at least been given a retainer of some sort. This also explains why Alraune wants to kill Bayonetta and Jeanne; at some point, word gets to her that an Umbra Witch has called for her destruction and conversion into a weapon (essentially slavery, as well as AndIMustScream territory), and while the power she'd gain by devouring one or the other isn't inconsiderable, it's also essential to avoid having her plans destroyed by a demon weaponsmith who had basically never failed to obtain the soul of a demon for his weapons before. That's why she sets Gomorrah free; that was her first chance to go after them.
8th Nov '15 9:56:10 AM EndlessKng
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The other explanation is that being summoned through a medium, like an Umbra Witch's hair or a Lumen Sage's feathers, dampens impacts on both ends; making it so that while Gomorrah may not be able to kick ass at the same strength it would down in Inferno, it's also resistant to beatings it receives. If the summoned demon or angel is killed after it's brought out to fight, it simply backs out of the summon and regains consciousness in Paradiso or Inferno, fully alive.

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The other explanation is that being summoned through a medium, like an Umbra Witch's hair or a Lumen Sage's feathers, dampens impacts on both ends; making it so that while Gomorrah may not be able to kick ass at the same strength it would down in Inferno, it's also resistant to beatings it receives. If the summoned demon or angel is killed after it's brought out to fight, it simply backs out of the summon and regains consciousness in Paradiso or Inferno, fully alive.alive.

[[WMG: Jeanne had commissioned Rodin to make Alruna as a Christmas present for Bayonetta, which is why she went after the two of them.]]
Alruna is one of the few weapons in either game not obtained through a Golden LP, but Rodin doesn't seem to be charging Bayonetta for weapon at all (theoretically, the reason he didn't charge for the others was because the trip to Inferno led him fighting a ton of other demons, and collecting their orbs as a result and as a sort of payment). Yet, he mentions it as a "payday," even though he just GIVES it to her. Why would he do that?

Someone else paid already - Jeanne. Rodin was working on it already and had been for what seems like some time when the game begins, meaning he'd at least been given a retainer of some sort. This also explains why Alraune wants to kill Bayonetta and Jeanne; at some point, word gets to her that an Umbra Witch has called for her destruction and conversion into a weapon (essentially slavery, as well as AndIMustScream territory), and while the power she'd gain by devouring one or the other isn't inconsiderable, it's also essential to avoid having her plans destroyed by a demon weaponsmith who had basically never failed to obtain the soul of a demon for his weapons before. That's why she sets Gomorrah free; that was her first chance to go after them.
21st Sep '15 2:02:16 PM nombretomado
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Bayonetta borrows as much from [[WordOfDante political medieval writings]] and NorseMythology as it does from Literature/TheBible. Now, Norse gods were hard to kill but still died. Balder's death signaled the end of the world, but his rebirth signaled the start of a new one. Balder wasn't always a nice guy either, until later medieval writers turned him into a Christ figure because he represented light. If he isn't Balder, the game's plot lucked into some symbolism.

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Bayonetta borrows as much from [[WordOfDante political medieval writings]] and NorseMythology Myth/NorseMythology as it does from Literature/TheBible. Now, Norse gods were hard to kill but still died. Balder's death signaled the end of the world, but his rebirth signaled the start of a new one. Balder wasn't always a nice guy either, until later medieval writers turned him into a Christ figure because he represented light. If he isn't Balder, the game's plot lucked into some symbolism.
5th Aug '15 8:54:42 PM Prfnoff
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*** No, the above three plus Lao from BujingaiTheForsakenCity. ''That'' would be utterly awesome.

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*** No, the above three plus Lao from BujingaiTheForsakenCity.''VideoGame/{{Bujingai}}''. ''That'' would be utterly awesome.
3rd Aug '15 9:02:06 PM Adept
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Bayonetta is going to get a sequel which somehow increases the {{HSQ}} in the series, and Platinum Games is going to go on to become a studio which produces nothing but hits. Kamiya, Mikami, and Inaba, already a cause for fandom rejoicing, are going to quickly become well known like HideoKojima or ShigeruMiyamoto.

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Bayonetta is going to get a sequel which somehow increases the {{HSQ}} in the series, and Platinum Games is going to go on to become a studio which produces nothing but hits. Kamiya, Mikami, and Inaba, already a cause for fandom rejoicing, are going to quickly become well known like HideoKojima Creator/HideoKojima or ShigeruMiyamoto.Creator/ShigeruMiyamoto.
11th Apr '15 5:18:07 PM nombretomado
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Itsuno and [=CPS1=] were handed the sequel to Devil May Cry before Kamiya had the chance to know what was going on... Which is strange, because before DevilMayCry was released Kamiya was responsible for making VideoGame/ResidentEvil2, which is widely considered the best game in the series back when the games had fixed camera views and no Ganados or Plagas virus.

After the third and fourth games in the DevilMayCry series failed to really innovate or evolve, Kamiya was finally motivated enough to gather his faithful team, lay down the design document, and say "This. This is how Devil May Cry should have evolved. My will be done."

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Itsuno and [=CPS1=] were handed the sequel to Devil May Cry before Kamiya had the chance to know what was going on... Which is strange, because before DevilMayCry ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry'' was released Kamiya was responsible for making VideoGame/ResidentEvil2, which is widely considered the best game in the series back when the games had fixed camera views and no Ganados or Plagas virus.

After the third and fourth games in the DevilMayCry ''VideoGame/DevilMayCry'' series failed to really innovate or evolve, Kamiya was finally motivated enough to gather his faithful team, lay down the design document, and say "This. This is how Devil May Cry should have evolved. My will be done."
18th Jan '15 9:16:06 AM Tet
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** {{Jossed}} by [[https://twitter.com/PG_kamiya/status/318294757665300482 Hideki Kamiya's Twitter]]
31st Dec '14 12:08:30 AM OriDoodle
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* Bayonetta's witch status means she'll probably go to hell when she dies... Dante breaks into Hell on a regular basis... maybe there's some potential for a teamup or RescueRomance there if Bayonetta needs some help getting out...

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* Bayonetta's witch status means she'll probably go to hell when she dies... Dante breaks into Hell on a regular basis... maybe there's some potential for a teamup or RescueRomance there if Bayonetta (or Dante) needs some help getting out...


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