History WMG / BatmanReturns

*** But that might depend on Fries and Nora's respective ages. Vendela is twenty years younger than Arnold Schwarzenegger and only two years older than Andrew Bryniarski. Even if one factors that Nora's been frozen for several years, it's still likely that Victor and Nora's relationship was a May to December romance. Thus, Fries could have slept with Max's wife, several years before he met the love of his life. Alternatively, if Fries had cheated on Nora, it would add an extra layer to his character.

…the whole movie is Max Shreck's nightmarish DyingDream. In the dream he does things like giving in to his long-held impulsion to kill his obnoxious secretary, and he also sees his old business rival Bruce Wayne as Batman, because… why not? Both their names begin with B! And then there's the stuff that's just plain DreamLogic only a feverish brain could cook up, like [[CrazyAwesome the steampunk bomber-penguins]]. This also serves to explain why Shreck looks so indescribably nonplussed-but-mildly-surprised throughout the whole movie — that's very much the face someone would wear while half-consciously living through a particularly weird nightmare.

** I doubt it's that last one, considering it would involve Victor cheating on Nora, and I can't honestly see him doing that considering he's just as devoted to her in the film as he is in the various other pre-New 52 continuities.

Among the photos of Max posing with various celebs, including Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Jerry Lewis and Sammy Davis Jr., on his office 'Hall of Fame,' is one of Arnold Schwarzenegger. Or is it, in fact, an in-universe photo of a younger pre-accident Dr. Victor Fries? According to the ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' novelization, Dr. Fries was not merely an award-winning scientist and cryogenics genius, but he was also a famous Olympian, which might, thus, explain why Max was so keen to be seen appearing alongside him. Might Max have been the one funding Fries' research, and might he also have been the one who 'pulled the plug' on Fries' work on it, thus prompting the latter to cut the corners that later led to his tragic accident (and making Max, the live-action universe's equivalent of Ferris Boyle from ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''?). Or, here's another theory: Fries has personal animus towards Batman, because he holds Batman responsible for his associate, Shreck's death, which, in turn, led to a change in Shreck Enterprises' fortunes, the funding for Fries' research, and, thus Fries' accident. Or, how about this theory: Chip, Max's abnormally-ripped son, who has often been likened to Schwarzenegger, is in fact, Fries' real son (conceived between Fries and Max's late wife, behind Max's back), and the son and heir, that Max is so intent upon assuring a future for, is, ironically, not even his own flesh and blood.

Among the photos of Max posing with various celebs, including Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Jerry Lewis and Sammy Davis Jr., on his office 'Hall of Fame,' is one of Arnold Schwarzenegger. Or is it, in fact, an in-universe photo of a younger pre-accident Dr. Victor Fries? According to the ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' novelization, Dr. Fries was not merely an award-winning scientist and cryogenics genius, but he was also a famous Olympian, which might, thus, explain why Max was so keen to be seen appearing alongside him. Might Max have been the one funding Fries' research, and might he also have been the one who 'pulled the plug' on Fries' on it, thus prompting the latter to cut the corners that later led to his tragic accident (and making Max, the live-action universe's equivalent of Ferris Boyle from ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''?). Or, here's another theory: Fries has personal animus towards Batman, because he holds Batman responsible for his associate, Shreck's death, which, in turn, led to a change in Shreck Enterprises' fortunes, the funding for Fries' research, and, thus Fries' accident. Or, how about this theory: Chip, Max's abnormally-ripped son, who has often been likened to Schwarzenegger, is in fact, Fries' real son (conceived between Fries and Max's late wife, behind Max's back), and the son and heir, that Max is so intent upon assuring a future for, is, ironically, not even his own flesh and blood.

Ignoring actor switches, in the first movie, Harvey is seen being extremely politically active in Gotham's affairs, but in Returns, he's completely absent, even though, based on what we've seen, he would likely be working as closely with Gordon and the Mayor against the Red Triangle Gang were he in office as he was against Grissom and the Joker. Since he was only removed from office by Maroni's attack, it's very likely he was scarred before Red Triangle became active, regardless of whether he became Two-Face shortly afterward or disappeared for awhile before becoming a supervillain.
* Jossed, since it was mentioned in the ''Film/BatmanForever'' novelization that he helped Batman clear his name.

[[WMG: Max Shreck was friends with Dr.Victor Fries.]]
Among the photos of Max posing with various celebs, including Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Jerry Lewis and Sammy Davis Jr., on his office 'Hall of Fame,' is one of Arnold Schwarzenegger. Or is it, in fact, an in-universe photo of a younger pre-accident Dr. Victor Fries? According to the ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' novelisation, Dr. Fries was not merely an award-winning scientist and cryogenics genius, but he was also a famous Olympian, which might, thus, explain why Max was so keen to be seen appearing alongside him. Might Max have been the one funding Fries' research, and might he also have been the one who 'pulled the plug' on Fries' on it, thus prompting the latter to cut the corners that later led to his tragic accident (and making Max, the live-action universe's equivalent of Ferris Boyle from WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries?) Or, here's another theory: Fries has personal animus towards Batman, because he holds Batman responsible for his associate, Shreck's death, which, in turn, led to a change in Shreck Enterprises' fortunes, the funding for Fries' research, and, thus Fries' accident. Or, how about this theory: Chip, Max's abnormally-ripped son, who has often been likened to Schwarzenegger, is in fact, Fries' real son (conceived between Fries and Max's late wife, behind Max's back), and the son and heir, that Max is so intent upon assuring a future for, is, ironically, not even his own flesh and blood.

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