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22nd Apr '18 1:54:38 PM Overfiend
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[[WMG: The events and overall world depicted in the 60s series is birthed from the imagination of the comic book Joker.]]

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[[WMG: The events and overall world depicted in the 60s series is are birthed from the imagination of the comic book Joker.]]
22nd Apr '18 1:53:56 PM Overfiend
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[[WMG: The events and overall world depicted in the 60s series is birthed from the imagination of the comic book Joker.]]
The modern iteration of The Joker that is most commonly depicted in comic books and most other media is far more dark and dangerous than the one in the 60s Batman show, and the same can be said of the universe he inhabits. This is because the 60s Batmanverse is merely a walking "fever dream" of the "real" Joker. The Harlequin of Hate has a marked disregard for the lives he takes and the general havoc he wreaks; that's because he thinks it's all a game, a harmless romp where nobody really gets hurt. The show reflects Joker's exaggerated views of Batman as a stoic stick in the mud who takes himself way too seriously, Robin as a corny bundle of narmish, pedantic witticisms, the Gotham City Police Department as a bastion of ineffectual stupidity, and even his own contemporaries like The Penguin, The Riddler and Catwoman as mischievous, slightly sinister but ultimately benign criminal pranksters with a flair for the dramatic. This would also explain all of the more outre' and outlandish props, deathtraps and situations featured in the series, as such could only be sprung from a mind as uniquely outrageous as that of the Clown Prince of Crime. The "real" Joker doesn't think the stakes in the "real" world will ever get any higher than the "Dynamic Duo" being tied to a giant cuckoo clock deathtrap, from which they will naturally easily escape, only to defeat the villain of the week and restart the whole game all over again, same Bat-time, same Bat-channel, next week.


19th Apr '18 7:34:55 PM Fookasu4to8
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[[WMG: Joker actually does feel something akin to love for Harley, but he also hates her for it]]
Let's consider that "lousy comedian turns to crime to feed his pregnant wife, but she and the baby die, his 'associates' try to make him their scapegoat, falls in acid and turns mad" Joker origin is true. Now, let's consider what it could mean for him to be close to another woman; maybe there's a part of him that feels guilt for "cheating" on his wife, maybe Harley's dream of a family feel like a punch in the gut for the family he almost had. So he abuses her, hurts her, tries to keep her far away from the place his late wife had. But, if anything, he's a pragmatic man, and sees a valuable asset in Harley, and devotion that high is so hard to come by... So he has to keep her close enough, too. So he plays the UnholyMatrimony with her, time and time again, but then he realises it's becoming less a facade each time, so he beats her, throws her out the window, keeps her at bay. But the times when they are intimate, she sees the good man underneath the psychopath, the man that can actually love her. He knows that, and he resents that she can provoke that in him, hates himself fro letting her so close.
That's why, in many depictions, he seems almost asexual; he knows it his week point and refuses to do it beyond the minimum necessary to keep her enthralled with him.



[[WMG: Joker actually ""does"" feel something akin to love for Harley, but he also hates her for it]]
Let's consider that "lousy comedian turns to crime to feed his pregnant wife, but she and the baby die, his 'associates' try to make him their scapegoat, falls in acid and turns mad" Joker origin is true. Now, let's consider what it could mean for him to be close to another woman; maybe there's a part of him that feels guilt for "cheating" on his wife, maybe Harley's dream of a family feel like a punch in the gut for the family he ""almost"" had. So he abuses her, hurts her, tries to keep her far away from the place his late wife had. But, if anything, he's a pragmatic man, and sees a valuable asset in Harley, and devotion that high is so hard to come by... So he has to keep her close enough, too. So he plays the UnholyMatrimony with her, time and time again, but then he realises it's becoming less a facade each time, so he beats her, throws her out the window, keeps her at bay. But the times when they are intimate, she sees the good man underneath the psychopath, the man that can actually love her. He knows that, and he resents that she can provoke that in him, hates himself fro letting her so close.
That's why, in many depictions, he seems almost asexual; he knows it his week point and refuses to do it beyond the minimum necessary to keep her enthralled with him.

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[[WMG: Joker actually ""does"" feel something akin to love for Harley, but he also hates her for it]]
Let's consider that "lousy comedian turns to crime to feed his pregnant wife, but she and the baby die, his 'associates' try to make him their scapegoat, falls in acid and turns mad" Joker origin is true. Now, let's consider what it could mean for him to be close to another woman; maybe there's a part of him that feels guilt for "cheating" on his wife, maybe Harley's dream of a family feel like a punch in the gut for the family he ""almost"" had. So he abuses her, hurts her, tries to keep her far away from the place his late wife had. But, if anything, he's a pragmatic man, and sees a valuable asset in Harley, and devotion that high is so hard to come by... So he has to keep her close enough, too. So he plays the UnholyMatrimony with her, time and time again, but then he realises it's becoming less a facade each time, so he beats her, throws her out the window, keeps her at bay. But the times when they are intimate, she sees the good man underneath the psychopath, the man that can actually love her. He knows that, and he resents that she can provoke that in him, hates himself fro letting her so close.
That's why, in many depictions, he seems almost asexual; he knows it his week point and refuses to do it beyond the minimum necessary to keep her enthralled with him.
19th Apr '18 5:02:34 PM Fookasu4to8
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[[WMG: Joker actually ""does"" feel something akin to love for Harley, but he also hates her for it]]
Let's consider that "lousy comedian turns to crime to feed his pregnant wife, but she and the baby die, his 'associates' try to make him their scapegoat, falls in acid and turns mad" Joker origin is true. Now, let's consider what it could mean for him to be close to another woman; maybe there's a part of him that feels guilt for "cheating" on his wife, maybe Harley's dream of a family feel like a punch in the gut for the family he ""almost"" had. So he abuses her, hurts her, tries to keep her far away from the place his late wife had. But, if anything, he's a pragmatic man, and sees a valuable asset in Harley, and devotion that high is so hard to come by... So he has to keep her close enough, too. So he plays the UnholyMatrimony with her, time and time again, but then he realises it's becoming less a facade each time, so he beats her, throws her out the window, keeps her at bay. But the times when they are intimate, she sees the good man underneath the psychopath, the man that can actually love her. He knows that, and he resents that she can provoke that in him, hates himself fro letting her so close.
That's why, in many depictions, he seems almost asexual; he knows it his week point and refuses to do it beyond the minimum necessary to keep her enthralled with him.
5th Apr '18 11:50:38 PM SuperMagneto
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[[WMG: Batman want his villains to remain insane.]]
Deep down, Batman doesn't want his foes to be normal. Without super villains, he would go back to beating up thugs and muggers. He enjoy playing Riddler's puzzle traps and chasing an evil clown.
5th Apr '18 11:19:53 PM SuperMagneto
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It was all a fantasy. Batman secretly lusts over Batgirl, but can't act on it since she is Jim's daughter and Dick's on-and-off girlfriend. Every now and then he will have soap opera type fantasies about her. The infamous sex scene never happened.

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It was all a fantasy. Batman secretly lusts over Batgirl, but can't can never act on it since she is Jim's daughter and Dick's on-and-off girlfriend. Every now and then he will have soap opera type fantasies about her. The infamous sex scene never happened.
5th Apr '18 11:01:27 PM SuperMagneto
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It was a fantasy. Batman secretly lusts over Batgirl, but can't act on it since she is Jim's daughter and Dick's on-and-off girlfriend. Every now and then he will have soap opera like fantasies about her. The infamous sex scene never happened.

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It was all a fantasy. Batman secretly lusts over Batgirl, but can't act on it since she is Jim's daughter and Dick's on-and-off girlfriend. Every now and then he will have soap opera like type fantasies about her. The infamous sex scene never happened.
5th Apr '18 10:59:45 PM SuperMagneto
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[[WMG: The first 30 minutes of The Killing Joke animated movie didn't happen.]]
It was a fantasy. Batman secretly lusts over Batgirl, but can't act on it since she is Jim's daughter and Dick's on-and-off girlfriend. Every now and then he will have soap opera like fantasies about her. The infamous sex scene never happened.
3rd Mar '18 10:04:31 PM nombretomado
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* Great-Granny Keeny: Tortured and punished her great grandson(more on him later) using chemically trained birds. She punished him for such things as reading {{Ulysses}} and being born.

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* Great-Granny Keeny: Tortured and punished her great grandson(more on him later) using chemically trained birds. She punished him for such things as reading {{Ulysses}} {{Literature/Ulysses}} and being born.
15th Jan '18 1:12:07 AM jormis29
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