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14th Mar '17 10:39:57 AM Vir
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Over the years, Killer Croc has gone from a GeniusBruiser with a legitimate skin condition, to TheBrute with crocodilian fangs and a tail. The writers claim that Killer Croc [[HandWave suffers from an extreme form of atavism]], [[EvolutionaryLevels which is causing him to devolve]] [[YouFailBiologyForever into a crocodile]]. Thus, it's not going to stop at him being a were-croc; one day, Killer Croc will simply be an ornery and particularly cunning crocodile living in Gotham's sewers.This is practically canon.

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Over the years, Killer Croc has gone from a GeniusBruiser with a legitimate skin condition, to TheBrute with crocodilian fangs and a tail. The writers claim that Killer Croc [[HandWave suffers from an extreme form of atavism]], [[EvolutionaryLevels which is causing him to devolve]] [[YouFailBiologyForever [[ArtisticLicenseBiology into a crocodile]]. Thus, it's not going to stop at him being a were-croc; one day, Killer Croc will simply be an ornery and particularly cunning crocodile living in Gotham's sewers.This is practically canon.
9th Jan '17 4:13:09 PM Mullon
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[[WMG: All the graves in the graveyard say Wayne on them.]]
The reason the Wayne's grave keeps changing is that Bruce bought the entire graveyard and filled it with nothing but graves that say Wayne on them, and he's just visiting different graves whenever he goes.
2nd Jan '17 2:18:16 AM SeptimusHeap
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* Batman, Nightwing and the Joker serve as the FreudianTrio: Batman is the super-ego, serving as an [[TheUbermensch ethical authority]] to the Robins that typically embody his ego. Nigthwing is the balanced ego. The Joker is Batman's id incarnate, embodying his insanity and rash, twisted passions. Batman needs Nightwing to prevent himself becoming [[KnightTemplar too extreme]], and the Joker to not be consumed by depression. The HoYay between the three is a result of desperately needing them and [[FreudWasRight the same reason for]] [[ScrewYourself selfcest.]]

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* Batman, Nightwing and the Joker serve as the FreudianTrio: Batman is the super-ego, serving as an [[TheUbermensch ethical authority]] to the Robins that typically embody his ego. Nigthwing is the balanced ego. The Joker is Batman's id incarnate, embodying his insanity and rash, twisted passions. Batman needs Nightwing to prevent himself becoming [[KnightTemplar too extreme]], and the Joker to not be consumed by depression. The HoYay between the three is a result of desperately needing them and [[FreudWasRight the same reason for]] for [[ScrewYourself selfcest.]]
24th Dec '16 4:22:02 AM LondonKdS
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* Grant Morrison's prose description of the Joker's personality reforming after his shooting, in ''Batman'' #663, was eerily reminiscent of the ways that various ''Doctor Who'' novelisations described regeneration.
25th Aug '16 7:58:18 PM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
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It also explains how can a seemingly BadassNorlmal can become proficient at a dozen kinds of martial arts and learn a dozen languages and still have the time to be good at chemistry and math and escapism and extra stuff for which a non superpowered human would need 100 years to sort of learn: it's in the programing Superman installed on him. It also explains that he also gets the time to pretend he's a playboy millionaire (which is a failed attempts at what he/it believes to be an actual human life) as well as his inability to be intimate and why we shouldn't worry that Bruce constantly adopting stray kids seems so pedo: it's just Superman's way to help and give a home to gifted children by proxy without going through all that family stuff with a workaholic jerkass like Lois Lane. Alfred and Bruce's social life are just programming in Bruce's head Creator/PhilipKDick style

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It also explains how can a seemingly BadassNorlmal BadassNormal can become proficient at a dozen kinds of martial arts and learn a dozen languages and still have the time to be good at chemistry and math and escapism and extra stuff for which a non superpowered human would need 100 years to sort of learn: it's in the programing Superman installed on him. It also explains that he also gets the time to pretend he's a playboy millionaire (which is a failed attempts at what he/it believes to be an actual human life) as well as his inability to be intimate and why we shouldn't worry that Bruce constantly adopting stray kids seems so pedo: it's just Superman's way to help and give a home to gifted children by proxy without going through all that family stuff with a workaholic jerkass like Lois Lane. Alfred and Bruce's social life are just programming in Bruce's head Creator/PhilipKDick style


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[[WMG: Arkham Asylum [[CardboardPrison is inept]] on purpose.]]
With all the ineptness of the people there you'd think that they'd hire better staff, or better legal work. Hell, even Bruce would help improve. Rather than the insanity of the people there being ''that'' potent, the staff are incompetent on ''purpose''. There's a conspiracy of the people in charge, in the legal and prison system. Why? By making it easier for dangerous criminals to escape, the long arm of the law would be able to come in and save the day. Or get publicity from this, or in general make money from Batman's Rogues' Gallery and their antics. Somewhere in Gotham is a rich mogul/group of rich moguls who's making a quick buck off the revolving door prison system, using flawed or inept lawyers to get clearly legally sane people like the Joker in Arkham instead of getting the chair, and making sure the staff doesn't have the training to control them. And all the meanwhile Batman has no clue this is happening as he's busy with crime and hasn't figured someone might pull this stunt.

Giving StatusQuoIsGod, this GreaterScopeVillain will continue [[KarmaHoudini to get away with this shit]] until the end of DC Comics, or until some future story where Batman gets a clue.
11th Aug '16 2:29:33 PM ritzoreo
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It does explain why Superman appreciates Bztman and cares for him even though Batman can be so aloof: he's really Clark's property but his program is faulty and doesn't remember his master. So Supes' just opts to let him be useful and do vigilante work instead of taking care of the fortress. This way also Batman can do the small fry (for Superman standards) in problematic Gotham City while Superman goes take care of real cosmic menaces. It's also the reason why Batman tends to be the strategist while the rest of the Justice League has more physical work to do: it's a relic from his days at the Fortress of Solitude. This is also why Batman figured Clark Kent & Superman are the same person: no detective work necessary, he already knew because he lived in Superman's intimate dwellings. It's also the reason why Superman never felt threatened with Batman knowing his real identity and why despite being so unlike each other, Batman feels compelled to work as part of WorldsFinest with his master, and Superman knows him too well since he built him.

It also explains how can a seemingly normal man can become proficient at a dozen kinds of martial arts and learn a dozen languages and still have the time to be good at chemistry and math and escapism and extra stuff for which a non superpowered human would need 100 years to sort of learn: it's in the programing Superman installed on him. It also explains that he also gets the time to pretend he's a playboy millionaire (failed attempts at behaving like he believes that humans actually live) as well as his inability to be intimate and why we shouldn't worry that Bruce constantly adopting stray kids seems so pedo: it's just Superman's way to help and give a home to gifted children by proxy without going through all that family stuff with a workaholic jerkass like Lois Lane. Alfred and Bruce's social life are just programming in Bruce's head Creator/PhilipKDick style

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It does explain why Superman appreciates Bztman Batman and cares for him even though Batman can be so aloof: he's really Clark's property but his program is faulty and doesn't remember his master. So Supes' just opts to let him be useful and do vigilante work instead of taking care of the fortress. This way also Batman can do the small fry (for Superman standards) in problematic Gotham City while Superman goes take care of real cosmic menaces. It's also the reason why Batman tends to be the strategist while the rest of the Justice League has more physical work to do: it's a relic from his days at the Fortress of Solitude. This is also why Batman figured Clark Kent & Superman are the same person: no detective work necessary, he already knew because he lived in Superman's intimate dwellings. It's also the reason why Superman never felt threatened with Batman knowing his real identity and why despite being so unlike each other, Batman feels compelled to work as part of WorldsFinest with his master, and Superman knows him too well since he built him.

It also explains how can a seemingly normal man BadassNorlmal can become proficient at a dozen kinds of martial arts and learn a dozen languages and still have the time to be good at chemistry and math and escapism and extra stuff for which a non superpowered human would need 100 years to sort of learn: it's in the programing Superman installed on him. It also explains that he also gets the time to pretend he's a playboy millionaire (failed (which is a failed attempts at behaving like he what he/it believes that humans actually live) to be an actual human life) as well as his inability to be intimate and why we shouldn't worry that Bruce constantly adopting stray kids seems so pedo: it's just Superman's way to help and give a home to gifted children by proxy without going through all that family stuff with a workaholic jerkass like Lois Lane. Alfred and Bruce's social life are just programming in Bruce's head Creator/PhilipKDick style
1st Aug '16 7:02:15 AM KaiYves
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[[WMG: Governor Stonefellow's first name is Reginald.]]
In the Adam West series, many jokes were made based on Gotham being outrageously similar to New York City, including the state governor's name being "Stonefellow", as a pun on New York State's then-governor, Nelson Rockefeller. Governor Stonefellow's first name was never mentioned in the series, but an issue of the comic contemporary with the series ([[http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Batman_Vol_1_194 Batman Volume 1, 194]]), had a character named Reginald Stonefellow who parodied other things Rockefeller was known for-- his wealth and his interest in collecting art. Therefore, these two one-off characters may be comic and TV versions of the same man.
19th Jul '16 9:45:55 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Joker knows he is a fictional work, which is why he does what he does. Think of how much fun it is in games like VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto to throw caution to the wind and let loose and cause chaos for chaos's sake. Joke's DangerouslyGenreSavvy nature is his powers (Super-Sanity as mentioned above); he can get away with what he does because he knows no one is truly killed, since they were never alive in the first place and are fictional characters that the audience hates. This is why he "fudged" the location of Rachel and Harvey in the movie: He knew that the fans felt that Rachel was TheScrappy and that they would much rather see Two-Face. Since this was a movie, she was in no real danger, just like his assistant for his magic trick. He would only seem dangerous to the "[=NPCs=]" of his universe - the police, Batman, Alfred, and Harvey Dent. But to him, he's aware he's Oscar gold. His super power is to be the ultimate crowd pleaser!

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* Joker knows he is a fictional work, which is why he does what he does. Think of how much fun it is in games like VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto to throw caution to the wind and let loose and cause chaos for chaos's sake. Joke's DangerouslyGenreSavvy nature is his powers (Super-Sanity as mentioned above); he can get away with what he does because he knows no one is truly killed, since they were never alive in the first place and are fictional characters that the audience hates. This is why he "fudged" the location of Rachel and Harvey in the movie: He knew that the fans felt that Rachel was TheScrappy and that they would much rather see Two-Face. Since this was a movie, she was in no real danger, just like his assistant for his magic trick. He would only seem dangerous to the "[=NPCs=]" of his universe - the police, Batman, Alfred, and Harvey Dent. But to him, he's aware he's Oscar gold. His super power is to be the ultimate crowd pleaser!
29th Jun '16 10:37:00 AM CJF
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[[WMG: Mental disorders of the villains]]
Just what are the types of psychoses that Batman's enemies that are labeled insane and sent to Arkham possess? It's known that Riddler has an extreme case of obsessive compulsive disorder, due to childhood abuse. This makes him obsessed with never lying by leaving clues around, as he simply ''cannot'' commit a crime without clues. Two-Face had multiple personalities, with the darker one being more dominant, but the good side having some power through the use of the coin. It's possible that the Ventriloquist also has multiple personalities shown through the puppet Scarface, but I believe that Scarface is living. And the Joker's mental disorder is unknown. But what's wrong with the other villains like Poison Ivy or Killer Croc? Exactly what is the name of the insanity they have that causes them to do what they do? Feel free to add suggestions.
** Poison Ivy and Croc are probably held at Arkham just because a normal prison couldn't make the accommodations necessary to house a giant lizard man and a woman who controls plants. [[CardboardPrison Not that Arkham does a great job either ...]]
*** I dunno, they probably qualify for a fictional psychosis relating to psychological association of one's identity with the source of metahuman traits rather than human society. ''We'' probably don't have a formal psychological disorder classification for people who categorize themselves as plants and crocodiles rather than humans, but a world with rampant metahumans probably does. They're probably sent to Arkham because their crimes could be stopped (or at least reduced) by convincing them to think of themselves as ''Homo sapiens'', which can only be done at a psychological facility.
*** "''We'' probably don't have a formal psychological disorder classification for people who categorize themselves as plants and crocodiles rather than humans"? I feel like this needs a "yet", seeing as we have those people now.
*** Its been said that KC has been suffering from his mutation/disease so much that he acts more like a reptile than a man.
*** Clayface and Man-Bat probably suffer from a similar "no longer thinks of himself as human, and thus not bound by human social rules due to abnormal metahuman morphology" disorder, emphasized by how Man-Bat is usually a villain to one degree or another, whereas Kirk Langstrom isn't (there's probably some identity disassociation going on there too for Langstrom)
** Scarecrow's characterization varies rather widely, but Jeph Loeb's characterization leaves the impression that he has Dissociative Identity Disorder - when his mask is ripped off in Hush he begins speaking in a normal tone (when he had been singing "Hush little baby ..." before), and doesn't seem to answer to "Scarecrow" and "Jonathan Crane" at the same time. Other characterizations are open to a litany of "diagnoses." Of course, see the "Dr. Crane is faking it" entry above for AlternativeCharacterInterpretation.
** [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Hatter_(comics) The Mad Hatter]] is said to be schizophrenic.
** Harley is all kinds of crazy, but we can probably specifically pinpoint some variation of Stockholme Syndrome or patient-doctor transference, at least in her StartOfDarkness.
** Calendar Man is almost certainly obsessive compulsive to some degree or another what with his inexplicable calendar theme.
** Firefly is a pyromaniac, and that's a legitimate type of impulse control disorder.
** Maxie Zeus is literally and explicitly delusional.
** Ra's al Ghul is occasionally cited as suffering from a type of insanity induced by the side-effects of the Lazarus pits having more lasting effects on him due to repeated use; they may be hoping that therapy can counteract this and make him a little more rational in his ecological aims.
** This troper would go as far as to say each of the main villains suffers from a cartoonish version of a real disorder. The Joker, for example, has a serious case of mania. It would explain his clownishness and motormouth. The Riddler suffers from obsessive compulsive disorder in most of his incarnations, the Penguin is a narcissist, Catwoman is a crazy cat lady, Mr. Freeze is depressed, Bane is suffering from substance abuse, Two-Face has split personalities, and the Scarecrow is an asshole.
* The Joker seems to have multiple disorders instead of just one:
** [[LackOfEmpathy Anti-social personality disorder]]-He sees others are part of an elaborate joke
** Dementia-The Joker's whole worldview, plus the fact [[NoFourthWall he considers the world he inhabits fictional
** [[DespairEventHorizon Depression]]-ComicBook/TheKillingJoke implies that the Joker uses insanity as an escape from pain.
** Dissociative personality disorder-[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation The numerous personalities the Joker has adopted over the years.]]
** Platonic [[FoeYay (or not)]] [[StalkerWithACrush eroto]][[StalkerWithoutACrush mania]]-The Joker is obsessed with Batman as his arch-enemy, often refusing to kill him to continue their rivalry. It borders on [[FoeYay outright romance]] in the most twisted way possible.
** [[TheNarcissist Narcissim]]-Sees his crimes as one big game, and loves to goad others(mainly Batman) into playing it
** [[ForTheEvulz Sadistic personality disorder]]-The Joker's favourite crimes are hurting his foes on a personal level, and much of what he does is basically [[MadArtist artistic sadism.]]
** [[TheSociopath Sociopathy]]-The Joker is incapable of empathy or guilt, highly intelligent and [[ManipulativeBastard good at manipulating others]]. If you take the interpretation that he's faking madness,
19th Jun '16 2:55:53 PM DoctorCrocodileReborn
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[[WMG: Bruce Wayne's parents were murdered by supervillains in the Adam West show.]]
Just a personal theory of mine, which I suggest because in the show Batman was never really depicted fighting any 'normal criminals' even though he still did so in the 60s comics. What's more, Batman was only called in whenever a supervillain showed up. These lead me to suspect that whoever killed the Waynes might actually have been a supervillain themselves, and why Batman tends to deal with those as an opposing force, like a subversion of the 'superhero paradox.'
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