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[[WMG: The Execution of Louis XVI]]
When he was imprisoned, Louis XVI was held at the Temple Fortress, an old Templar fortress that was later torn down. Upon his death, someone came from the crowd and shouted, "Jacques de Molay, tu es avengee". This was long regarded as rumour, this game we'll see it for real.
When he was imprisoned, Louis XVI was held at the Temple Fortress, an old Templar fortress that was later torn down. Upon his death, someone came from the crowd and shouted, "Jacques de Molay, tu es avengee". This was long regarded as rumour, this game we'll see it for real.
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* Robespierre, the man largely blamed for the Reign of Terror (albeit he may have been scapegoated by those who were also responsible) but who unquestionably supported it... An ''assassin?'' Using terror to "maintain peace" sounds more like a Templar modus opperandi.
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* Robespierre, the man largely blamed for the Reign of Terror (albeit he may have been scapegoated by those who were also responsible) but who unquestionably supported it... An ''assassin?'' Using terror to "maintain peace" sounds more like a Templar modus opperandi.operandi.
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** The new trailer has Arno and Elise confronting him on what certainly seems to be 9 Thermidor, they even knock a pistol off his hand(the only recorded instance of Robespierre wielding a gun).
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** Problem solved. The new trailer goes for his normal height, just a few inches below Arno. It solves it by making him cool and smooth and getting the drop on the hero. You totally get how this pipsqueak conquered Europe.
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Ubisoft's put itself in a corner: either they go with the classic comical 5'2' Napoleon or his actualy 5'7". Whichever one, he's going to seem short compared to our clearly 6' something assassin.
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Ubisoft's put itself in a corner: either they go with the classic comical 5'2' 5'2" Napoleon or his actualy actual 5'7". Whichever one, he's going to seem short compared to our clearly 6' something assassin.
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[[WMG: Napoleon will be short.]]
Ubisoft's put itself in a corner: either they go with the classic comical 5'2' Napoleon or his actualy 5'7". Whichever one, he's going to seem short compared to our clearly 6' something assassin.
Ubisoft's put itself in a corner: either they go with the classic comical 5'2' Napoleon or his actualy 5'7". Whichever one, he's going to seem short compared to our clearly 6' something assassin.
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* Alternatively, she ''is'' in the DLC, perhaps she was the one who told Arno to investigate Saint Denis and will appear in the end or in the middle.
[[WMG: Napoleon is neither a Templar nor an Assassin]]
Napoleon throughout his life took all sorts of odd political stances, incredibly contradictory. Initially he was a Jacobin and a Robespierre supporter (briefly imprisoned after Thermidor like all Robespierrists) but after his release, he embraced the new social order. He was a racist, who brought slavery back in French colonies, unsuccessfully tried to retake Haiti and had Toussaint L'Ouverture captured, brought to Paris where he died in Prison. But on the other hand, he also put forth several reforms for Jewish emancipation, brought them out of the ghettos and did more to give them rights than any other European reformer. He was a warmongerer who did much to fundamentally change Europe's social structure and he was opposed by the highly conservative Duke of Wellington, Metternich and Tsar Alexander (all of them anti-semites) all of whom wanted to ensure that the French Revolution ideals did not spread with him. Most likely, Napoleon will play assassins against the Templars and force them to support his grand plan of WarForFunAndProfit and ForGreatJustice, and his rise will represent a dark age for the Assassins in terms of corruption and moral compromise.
[[WMG: Napoleon is neither a Templar nor an Assassin]]
Napoleon throughout his life took all sorts of odd political stances, incredibly contradictory. Initially he was a Jacobin and a Robespierre supporter (briefly imprisoned after Thermidor like all Robespierrists) but after his release, he embraced the new social order. He was a racist, who brought slavery back in French colonies, unsuccessfully tried to retake Haiti and had Toussaint L'Ouverture captured, brought to Paris where he died in Prison. But on the other hand, he also put forth several reforms for Jewish emancipation, brought them out of the ghettos and did more to give them rights than any other European reformer. He was a warmongerer who did much to fundamentally change Europe's social structure and he was opposed by the highly conservative Duke of Wellington, Metternich and Tsar Alexander (all of them anti-semites) all of whom wanted to ensure that the French Revolution ideals did not spread with him. Most likely, Napoleon will play assassins against the Templars and force them to support his grand plan of WarForFunAndProfit and ForGreatJustice, and his rise will represent a dark age for the Assassins in terms of corruption and moral compromise.
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[[WMG: The reason Elise isn't accompanying Arno in Dead Kings...]]
* She's dead. Pretty simple. Maybe Arno killed her, since after all, she is a Templar and he is an Assassin. Or she was successfully guillotined during the Great Terror, or killed by the BigBad, making her Arno's LostLenore.
* She and Arno are enemies again. It's possible they worked very well together, stopped the Terror and all, but Elise may have become the New Templar Grand Master, or supported the new one (a certain Corsican is supposed to attain the Apple, after all) and this lead to a falling out with Arno. Simple heart break could easily explain his brooding, and it would keep open numerous possibilities for the sequel.
* She's dead. Pretty simple. Maybe Arno killed her, since after all, she is a Templar and he is an Assassin. Or she was successfully guillotined during the Great Terror, or killed by the BigBad, making her Arno's LostLenore.
* She and Arno are enemies again. It's possible they worked very well together, stopped the Terror and all, but Elise may have become the New Templar Grand Master, or supported the new one (a certain Corsican is supposed to attain the Apple, after all) and this lead to a falling out with Arno. Simple heart break could easily explain his brooding, and it would keep open numerous possibilities for the sequel.
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** The final boss and target is Maximilien Robespierre, LeBas, Couthon, Saint-Just, who briefly escaped custody and went to the Hotel de Ville, a situation with much chaos that has never been resolved.
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** The final boss and target is Maximilien Robespierre, LeBas, Couthon, Saint-Just, who briefly escaped custody and went to the Hotel de Ville, a situation with much chaos that has never been resolved.resolved.
[[WMG: Unity is an Abstergo video game.]]
They found the narrative of a man who only really joined the Assassins to solve a murder and loves a Templar would be excellent propaganda. It might also explain things such as the English accents and certain characters being different from how they were historically. Abstergo changed them to make a better story.
[[WMG: Unity is an Abstergo video game.]]
They found the narrative of a man who only really joined the Assassins to solve a murder and loves a Templar would be excellent propaganda. It might also explain things such as the English accents and certain characters being different from how they were historically. Abstergo changed them to make a better story.
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[[WMG: The Targets will be...]]
The revolution as a whole has widely documented deaths, mostly by guillotine. So actual "assassinations" seem to be hard to pull off. Charles Sivert died normally off old age yet in the demos he is stated to die peacefully. This will probably be the approach taken by the developers, find instances of normal deaths and make it elaborate and fictional. So some of the assassinations are:
** Comte de Mirabeau: Maybe he conspired against Elise's father and is a Templar, who tried to stem the rise of the bourgeosie and after his death was found to have colluded with the Royal Family in the armoire de fer documents. He died peacefully but they can easily make it an assassination. And in real-life he was rumored to have been poisoned.
** Emperor Leopold II, of Austria: This will be similar to the missions in the earlier games where the characters go to a new locale. He died suddenly in 1792. He was the brother of Marie Antoinette and was planning to invade France and restore the Ancien Regime. Besides, Arno is part Austrian, an ancestry that necessarily ought to come into play somehow. What better way than having him speak Austrian German while infiltrating the Schonbrunn Palace and killing the Emperor. And yes, it was rumored in life that he was poisoned. He's an old school Enlightened Monarch Templar who does not like the rise of the Revolutionary Templars who seek to install the middle-class in power over the aristocrats.
** Jacques Roux: A radical left-winger who the Jacobins considered a nuisance. He tried to kill himself with a knife several times before finally achieving it. At this point the faction decides to start targetting Assassins as well, so you get to kill one of your own.
** Jacques Pierre Brissot: Not an assassination but Brissot was the Girondin leader who agitated for war, and plunged France into chaos. He tried to escape to Chartres but was finally caught and brought back to Paris for his trial.
** Charlotte Corday: An Assassin turned Girondin, you will race against time to try and stop her from killing Marat but you are too late and this will start a tough and nasty boss fight.
** The final boss and target is Maximilien Robespierre, LeBas, Couthon, Saint-Just, who briefly escaped custody and went to the Hotel de Ville, a situation with much chaos that has never been resolved.
The revolution as a whole has widely documented deaths, mostly by guillotine. So actual "assassinations" seem to be hard to pull off. Charles Sivert died normally off old age yet in the demos he is stated to die peacefully. This will probably be the approach taken by the developers, find instances of normal deaths and make it elaborate and fictional. So some of the assassinations are:
** Comte de Mirabeau: Maybe he conspired against Elise's father and is a Templar, who tried to stem the rise of the bourgeosie and after his death was found to have colluded with the Royal Family in the armoire de fer documents. He died peacefully but they can easily make it an assassination. And in real-life he was rumored to have been poisoned.
** Emperor Leopold II, of Austria: This will be similar to the missions in the earlier games where the characters go to a new locale. He died suddenly in 1792. He was the brother of Marie Antoinette and was planning to invade France and restore the Ancien Regime. Besides, Arno is part Austrian, an ancestry that necessarily ought to come into play somehow. What better way than having him speak Austrian German while infiltrating the Schonbrunn Palace and killing the Emperor. And yes, it was rumored in life that he was poisoned. He's an old school Enlightened Monarch Templar who does not like the rise of the Revolutionary Templars who seek to install the middle-class in power over the aristocrats.
** Jacques Roux: A radical left-winger who the Jacobins considered a nuisance. He tried to kill himself with a knife several times before finally achieving it. At this point the faction decides to start targetting Assassins as well, so you get to kill one of your own.
** Jacques Pierre Brissot: Not an assassination but Brissot was the Girondin leader who agitated for war, and plunged France into chaos. He tried to escape to Chartres but was finally caught and brought back to Paris for his trial.
** Charlotte Corday: An Assassin turned Girondin, you will race against time to try and stop her from killing Marat but you are too late and this will start a tough and nasty boss fight.
** The final boss and target is Maximilien Robespierre, LeBas, Couthon, Saint-Just, who briefly escaped custody and went to the Hotel de Ville, a situation with much chaos that has never been resolved.
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The new Templar Grand-Master, George-Jacques Danton. In real-life Danton had a shady career. In the beginning he was friends with Comte de Mirabeau who later turned out to be a traitor with no real loyalty to the reforms people wanted, later he was also involved in shady financial speculating and lined his pockets during the Revolution. He was also a populist, man of the people, who famously instigated mob violence including the September Massacres. It's also rumoured that he was involved in some dealings with Louis XVI during the armoire de fer incident. In the end it will be revealed that he was the mastermind behind the murder of Elise's father which drives her to send him to the guillotine by denouncing him to Robespierre, the Mentor of the Assassins who worked briefly with Danton for supporting the Revolution.
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The new Templar Grand-Master, George-Jacques Danton. In real-life Danton had a shady career. In the beginning he was friends with Comte de Mirabeau who later turned out to be a traitor with no real loyalty to the reforms people wanted, later he was also involved in shady financial speculating and lined his pockets during the Revolution. He was also a populist, man of the people, who famously instigated mob violence including the September Massacres. It's also rumoured that he was involved in some dealings with Louis XVI during the armoire de fer incident. In the end it will be revealed that he was the mastermind behind the murder of Elise's father which drives her to send him to the guillotine by denouncing him to Robespierre, the Mentor of the Assassins who worked briefly with Danton for supporting the Revolution. \n\n It's also a classic Templar irony, in the real world, Danton is cherished as a hero of the Revolution while Robespierre remains hated to this very day.
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The new Templar Grand-Master, George-Jacques Danton. In real-life Danton had a shady career. In the beginning he was friends with Comte de Mirabeau who later turned out to be a traitor with no real loyalty to the reforms people wanted, later he was also involved in shady financial speculating and lined his pockets during the Revolution. He was also a populist, man of the people, who famously instigated mob violence including the September Massacres. It's also rumoured that he was involved in some dealings with Louis XVI during the armoire de fer incident. In the end it will be revealed that he was the mastermind behind the murder of Elise's father which drives her to send him to the guillotine by denouncing him to Robespierre, the Mentor of the Assassins who worked briefly with Danton for supporting the Revolution.
The new Templar Grand-Master, George-Jacques Danton. In real-life Danton had a shady career. In the beginning he was friends with Comte de Mirabeau who later turned out to be a traitor with no real loyalty to the reforms people wanted, later he was also involved in shady financial speculating and lined his pockets during the Revolution. He was also a populist, man of the people, who famously instigated mob violence including the September Massacres. It's also rumoured that he was involved in some dealings with Louis XVI during the armoire de fer incident. In the end it will be revealed that he was the mastermind behind the murder of Elise's father which drives her to send him to the guillotine by denouncing him to Robespierre, the Mentor of the Assassins who worked briefly with Danton for supporting the Revolution.
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* Not sure if Napoleon's rising is a great tragic irony compared to say the Russian Revolution. Napoleon was a product of the Revolution itself. His rise through the military ranks and creation of his famous army was the result of the changes in the class and ranking system instituted by the Revolution itself and he created the Napoleonic Code. His conquest and his example, and his army, spread the ideals of the Revolution across Europe. He was regarded as a hero by many liberals of the time and was by no means some simple bad guy on the scale of Stalin or Mao.
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** As per publicity, the game will end on Thermidor with the DLC ''Dead Kings'' taking place after the events of the game.
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** Jossed. He appears in the post-game set DLC ''Dead Kings'' which means he survives the events of the game for sure.
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* Well Arno will definitely survive since the post-game DLC ''Dead Kings'' has been announced. It takes place in 1794, around the end of Thermidor. He might however, kill Elise and decide to indulge in spelunking catacombs of dead kings to brood however...
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"Everybody Wants To Rule the World" correctly describes the general clusterfuck of the Revolution and is pretty self-explanatory. "The Golden Age" describes the promise of the French Revolution and the period before the Revolution which got betrayed. "Pistols at Dawn" describes the inevitable conflict between friends on opposite side...Robespierre vs. Danton ["We could've have it all/A world of our own/I never thought we could be/Pistols at Dawn"]] Arno and Elise:
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"Everybody Wants To Rule the World" correctly describes the general clusterfuck of the Revolution and is pretty self-explanatory. "The Golden Age" describes the promise of the French Revolution and the period before the Revolution which got betrayed. "Pistols at Dawn" describes the inevitable conflict between friends on opposite side...Robespierre vs. Danton ["We could've have it all/A world of our own/I never thought we could be/Pistols at Dawn"]] Dawn"] Arno and Elise:
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[[WMG: The Songs used in the Trailers are Plot Spoilers...]]
"Everybody Wants To Rule the World" correctly describes the general clusterfuck of the Revolution and is pretty self-explanatory. "The Golden Age" describes the promise of the French Revolution and the period before the Revolution which got betrayed. "Pistols at Dawn" describes the inevitable conflict between friends on opposite side...Robespierre vs. Danton ["We could've have it all/A world of our own/I never thought we could be/Pistols at Dawn"]] Arno and Elise:
--> "Surely we must be more than love on the run
--> Dancing in darkness at the sound of a drum
--> Can't help to wonder what you thought I would do
--> Lay down and play dead boy you know that ain't true
--> This is me reaching and you wanting to run
--> Stand down or show down baby let's get this done"
"Everybody Wants To Rule the World" correctly describes the general clusterfuck of the Revolution and is pretty self-explanatory. "The Golden Age" describes the promise of the French Revolution and the period before the Revolution which got betrayed. "Pistols at Dawn" describes the inevitable conflict between friends on opposite side...Robespierre vs. Danton ["We could've have it all/A world of our own/I never thought we could be/Pistols at Dawn"]] Arno and Elise:
--> "Surely we must be more than love on the run
--> Dancing in darkness at the sound of a drum
--> Can't help to wonder what you thought I would do
--> Lay down and play dead boy you know that ain't true
--> This is me reaching and you wanting to run
--> Stand down or show down baby let's get this done"
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[[WMG: The Game's FinalBoss will be...]]
Louis Antoine de Saint-Just who serves as TheDragon to Robespierre.
Historically, Robespierre was very much a non-action guy, but the young, {{Bishonen}}, Saint-Just was a guy with serious energy, who went to the war-fronts, served as a DrillSergeantNasty to "the generals and the officers", quite a few of them he had executed by firing squads of rank-and-file men (among whom Saint-Just was popular). During 9 Thermidor, Saint-Just was physically pushed off, and there was a whole lot of confusion which happened, many of which coming from records written by the people who deposed Robespierre. Its easy to imagine a badass fight between Arno and/or Elise with Saint-Just and with his defeat, the way to Robespierre.
Now whether Saint-Just and Robespierre are Assassins/Templars is the question. They could easily be some extreme of either end. But Saint-Just seems like an Assassin to me.
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** Not sure if Napoleon's rising is a great tragic irony compared to say the Russian Revolution. Napoleon was a product of the Revolution itself. His rise through the military ranks and creation of his famous army was the result of the changes in the class and ranking system instituted by the Revolution itself and he created the Napoleonic Code. His conquest and his example, and his army, spread the ideals of the Revolution across Europe. He was regarded as a hero by many liberals of the time and was by no means some simple bad guy on the scale of Stalin or Mao.
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[[WMG: Robespierre will have a CorruptTheCutie arc]]
Robespierre was initially an anti-war, anti-death penalty politician who called for greater rights of people. He eventually became more radicalized during the Revolution. The reason for this is that Arno Dorian and other Assassins see Robespierre has having great potential and approach him and introduce them to their ways, even becoming TheMentor to him. Robespierre is initially reluctant but slowly goes along with it and eventually Arno Dorian will have to confront the guy who he himself had brought into the Assassins only to take it to the next level. This will also climax at 9, Thermidor when he goes against Robespierre, a la Altair-Al Mualim only this time, Arno has to confront his own responsibility.
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In the trailers we see Arno rushing to save Elise form the Guillotine. In the game, Robespierre will send you to guillotine and the chopping block and Elise will come to your rescue. What better way to dismiss misogyny allegations for Ubisoft, who naturally will have their cake and eat it too...Elise will come and save you but she'll get killed by guards while you escape...
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In the trailers we see Arno rushing to save Elise form the Guillotine. In the game, Robespierre will send you to guillotine and the chopping block and Elise will come to your rescue. What better way to dismiss misogyny allegations for Ubisoft, who naturally will have their cake and eat it too...Elise will come and save you but she'll get killed by guards while you escape...
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** For one thing that trailer is historically inaccurate, obviously for promotional reasons. People sent to the guillotine, men and women had their hairs cut short because the execution wanted clear access to the neck, and make killing as quick and sudden as possible. There's no way, Elise would have been allowed to keep her long red hair on the tumbrel, leave alone wearing a hood.
** For one thing that trailer is historically inaccurate, obviously for promotional reasons. People sent to the guillotine, men and women had their hairs cut short because the execution wanted clear access to the neck, and make killing as quick and sudden as possible. There's no way, Elise would have been allowed to keep her long red hair on the tumbrel, leave alone wearing a hood.
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* In history, Lafayette was chased out of France by Robespierre and Jacobins who regarded him as a potential dictator. So it'll be interested how the Assassins and Templars approach him.
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* Furthermore in Robespierre's final days, he used the Notre Dame as the centre of the Cult of the Supreme Being, a ritual where he was presented as the high priest of a new order, obviously he decided to harness the vault for the good of mankind.
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[[WMG: Arno and/or Elise will kill each other]]
Either they can't come to an agreement on something and have to fight it out or one of them gets controlled by a Piece of Eden and needs to be mercy killed. Either way, it'll be one hell of a tearjerker for the audience.
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[[WMG: There are two Templar-Assassin alliances: Arno-Elise, and the Committee on Public Safety.]]
Robespierre is an Assassin who's gone extreme, and Saint-Just is a Templar looking to install a new order. The group pushes the Revolution onwards from both sides, killing the moderate forces in each other's groups, making Arno a twice made orphan and setting Elise into an EnemyCivilWar. Now they didn't start the Revolution; like its American counterpart, it erupted out of control. They simply want to establish their own control over it. Arno and Elise will experience a WhamEpisode when they combine their knowledge to realize the conspiracy and end up starting their own Unity.
Robespierre is an Assassin who's gone extreme, and Saint-Just is a Templar looking to install a new order. The group pushes the Revolution onwards from both sides, killing the moderate forces in each other's groups, making Arno a twice made orphan and setting Elise into an EnemyCivilWar. Now they didn't start the Revolution; like its American counterpart, it erupted out of control. They simply want to establish their own control over it. Arno and Elise will experience a WhamEpisode when they combine their knowledge to realize the conspiracy and end up starting their own Unity.
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[[WMG: Notre Dame de Paris will be the location of a Vault...]]
The cathedral was built on top of a Jupiter Temple in real life, just like Santa Maria Ara Coeli in ''Brotherhood'' was built atop a Juno Temple...
The cathedral was built on top of a Jupiter Temple in real life, just like Santa Maria Ara Coeli in ''Brotherhood'' was built atop a Juno Temple...
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[[WMG: The Piece of Eden will be the French Blue Diamond]]
As per history, the famous French Blue diamond, from which the even more famous Hope Diamond is believed to be cut, went missing during the French Revolution. It was owned by Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette. It entered the possession of the Royal Family when the French Traveller Tavernier visited India and acquired the diamond from the Kollur Mine in the Kingdom of Golconda. He later gifted the diamond to King Louis XIV, the Sun King. In ''ComicBook/AssassinsCreedBrahman'', the goddess Durga comes from the Koh-I-Noor diamond (which was also created from the same Kollur Mine as the French Blue). Durga says, "We are one of many but essential to the Unity of all".
As per history, the famous French Blue diamond, from which the even more famous Hope Diamond is believed to be cut, went missing during the French Revolution. It was owned by Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette. It entered the possession of the Royal Family when the French Traveller Tavernier visited India and acquired the diamond from the Kollur Mine in the Kingdom of Golconda. He later gifted the diamond to King Louis XIV, the Sun King. In ''ComicBook/AssassinsCreedBrahman'', the goddess Durga comes from the Koh-I-Noor diamond (which was also created from the same Kollur Mine as the French Blue). Durga says, "We are one of many but essential to the Unity of all".
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* Meanwhile Assassins VS Templars conflict will explode into public in AC's modern era with very negative consequence.
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[[WMG: The Marquis de Lafeyette might return]]
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He was present during the revolution so he may have a role in helping Arno.
He was present during the revolution so he may have a role in helping Arno.
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* Is Arno's Mom missing? I thought she was dead. In any case, it's more than likely that the persons behind the deaths of Arno's parents was the same one who killed Elise's father...
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* Is Arno's Mom missing? I thought she was dead. In any case, it's more than likely that the persons behind the deaths of Arno's parents was the same one who killed Elise's father...
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* Is Arno's Mom missing? I thought she was dead. In any case, it's more than likely that the persons behind the deaths of Arno's parents was the same one who killed Elise's father...
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Will turn out to be none other than Arno's MissingMom, causing a rift between Arno and Elise that will end the potential alliance between Assassin's and Templars.
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Will turn out to be none other than Arno's MissingMom, causing a rift between Arno and Elise that will end the potential alliance between Assassin's and Templars.
[[WMG: Connor as a Mentor]]
Connor might make a small cameo at the end of the game, or even play a small role in alliance with Arno, seeing how both at one point attempted an Assassin-Templar Alliance. He might end up playing a role similar to that of Solid Snake to Arno's Raiden from MGS2.
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[[WMG: There will be an in-universe justification for [[TheQueensLatin everyone having English accents]].]]
Maybe someone will just handwave it as a bug in the Animus.
