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[[WMG: Scott [[InternalReveal findout]] about the Kang Council]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Yellowjacket is alive.]]]]
[[spoiler: He was reported to be returning in Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania; this might foreshadow his survival.]]
* [[spoiler:Confirmed, we do see Darren Cross in the second trailer. However, this time, he's become M.O.D.O.K. of all characters.]]

* [[spoiler: Confirmed, we see a multitude of Kang variants (including Rama-Tut)...and Loki, in the stinger.]]

* Confirmed, albeit they're only discussed before [[spoiler:appearing in the stinger.]]

The circular structures seen in the Quantum realm resemble and behave in function like the Ten Rings and the Bangle is related to time-travel, something Kang is known for. Especially when the TheStinger in ''Film/ShangChiAndTheLegendOfTheTenRings'' [[spoiler:revealed that the Ten Rings were far older than anyone expected to be, weren't alien or magic in origin and sending a mysterious signal to an unknown entity. They're most likely from the Quantum realm or the far future and sending a signal to Kang]]. Plus the Rings and Bangle [[Recap/MsMarvel2022S1E3Destined have a shared history with each other]].

* [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

* [[spoiler:Confirmed. It's revealed there is an AllianceOfAlternates of Kangs and this variant, "The Exiled", got exiled to the Quantum Realm.]]

* Confirmed,[[spoiler:the Kangs are even the Stinger.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Yellowjacket will be MODOK.]]]]
[[spoiler: Yellowjacket is rumored to be MODOK in the MCU, making Yellowjacket a CompositeCharacter of MODOK. The explanation for that would be that after Darren Cross was trapped in the Quantum Realm, he would suffer a mutation as a side effect of his Yellowjacket suit being damaged by Scott in the first movie, Cross would end up with a huge head permanently. Later he would be found by Kang in the Quantum Realm, he would build Cross an armor to survive in the Quantum Realm, where Cross would be renamed MODOK by Kang and Cross as MODOK would work for Kang, hoping that the conqueror would help him escape from the Quantum Realm.]]

[[WMG: Alternatively, [[spoiler: MODOK is ''NOT'' Yellowjacket, but [[YouLookFamiliar a separate character who just happens to be played]] by Creator/CoreyStoll.]]]]
Much like Creator/GemmaChan playing Minn-Erva in ''Film/CaptainMarvel2019'' and then Sersi in ''Film/{{Eternals}}'', [[spoiler: MODOK will be an entirely separate character from Yellowjacket, and will retain his traditional real name (George Tartleton) from the comics. This does not preclude MODOK being a Variant of Yellowjacket, though.]]

* [[spoiler:Jossed, it is indeed Darren Cross.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Janet has a connection with Kang]]]]
[[spoiler: Given that we barely have even heard of what she has done over her time in the quantum realm, it is likely that she has encountered and knew Kang throughout her quantum realm adventures.]]
* [[spoiler:The second trailer has Janet explain to Scott about who Kang is, so it's likely she came to know about Kang during her stay in the Quantum Realm.]]
** Confirmed. [[spoiler:Creator/JonathanMajors confirmed that Janet met Kang during her stay in the Quantum Realm.]]

[[WMG:Bill Murray plays [[spoiler:an aged Yellowjacket.]]]]
Time moves different in the Quantum Realm, which would facilitate [[spoiler:Yellowjacket’s return]] under a new actor.
* Jossed, [[spoiler:Bill Murray's character is completely separate from Yellowjacket.]]

* Jossed... [[spoiler:given the sub-atomic government (more like TheEmpire) is led by Kang, she lived with him on her own accord and left when discovering he was so bloodthirsty.]]

* Jossed, [[spoiler:but Loki and Morbius appear.]]

[[spoiler:Going from the above: if Newton's Cassie is a variant from an alternate timeline, then there's a possibility Fuhrmann will return to play the "main" Cassie.

* Jossed... [[spoiler:but TheStinger features Loki and Morbius finding Kang in the past.]]

* While the Cassie scene does appear, in the movie, [[spoiler: Kang initially made a similar offer to Janet, when she was initially stuck in the Quantum Realm]].

[[spoiler: Probably during the end of the movie, Darren Cross now known as MODOK I managed to escape from the Quantum Realm and return to the human world, then he would reactivate the old organization of A.I.M. as his new leader and boss. And we'll probably see MODOK back in ''Avengers: The Kang Dynasty'' or in ''Avengers: Secret Wars''.]]
* [[spoiler:Jossed in a RedemptionEqualsDeath case.]]

[[WMG:[[spoiler:How Darren Cross ended up like that]]]]
[[spoiler:If one rewatches the scene where Scott damages his Yellowjacket suit to make him shrink rapidly, you can see that the shrinking was very uneven and [[BodyHorror distorts his body (you can hear flesh squelching and bones cracking)]]. Thus, he ended up with a head that was way bigger than the rest of his body, and maybe some other anatomical problems not visible.]]
* [[spoiler:Confirmed, he's found in a terrible state and Kang rebuilds him into MODOK.]]

* [[spoiler:Confirmed.]]

Much similar to the deaths of Loki and Gamora, ''Quantumania'' will actually kill off either or even both "Prime Versions" of [[spoiler:Scott and Hope]]. This is to reinforce again, that AnyoneCanDie in the MCU. But to keep Creator/PaulRudd and Creator/EvangelineLilly in the MCU, any character that perishes, will be replaced with a parallel variant of said character.
* [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

[[WMG: Kang had a past abusive romantic relationship with [[spoiler:Janet]]]]
The film will reveal that [[spoiler:Janet had initially gave up trying to leave the Quantum Realm. And became romantically involved with Kang, who emotionally took advantage of Janet.]] This explains why she is haunted by Kang.

* Jossed, [[spoiler:it's a friendship\working relationship that only turned sour when she discovered who Kang really was. However, Janet ''did'' romantic relationship with Krylar).]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: The movie will set up Season 2 of Loki]]]]
[[spoiler: Since Kang is currently a threat now that he is the founder of the TVA, it is likely the it will set up Season 2 of Loki.]]
* [[spoiler: Confirmed]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Janet's vision of Kang's conquering is actually a SelfFulfillingProphecy]]]]
[[spoiler:If you look closely at the visions she sees upon touching his machine, you can see that his battles are actually moments from later in the film (the most obvious would be one that plays just a few minutes later when she blows up his power source).]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Darren Cross/MODOK will be given posthumous honorary Avenger status.]]]]

[[spoiler:Before performing his RedemptionEqualsDeath HeroicSacrifice, Darren says at least he'll get to go out an Avenger. With Scott just going with it. However, when the Avengers inevitably re-assemble in ''Kang Dynasty'' Scott will make mention of Darren's sacrifice. Sure it didn't stick but he had no way of knowing that. Plus while Darren wasn't (at the time) an Avenger, ''Scott'' is. I would think helping to stop Kang originally would at least put him under consideration. Maybe after Kang is defeated once and for all, Darren will be given honorary Avenger status to honor his sacrifice.]]

When Kang mentions this person, Scott presumes that this is Thor. However, Kang ''' never''' confirms this. This could be a potential Red Herring for later in the MCU. Instead, Kang may of fought either Beta Ray Bill or even "Boastful Loki" in a ''future'' battle (due to Kang's timeline being non-linear). The downside to this theory [[spoiler: is that Kang implied he killed this individual]].

[[WMG: The "guy with the hammer" is foreshadowing that [[spoiler: AntMan or a variant AntMan will wield Mjolnir in a future movie.]]]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: A new MODOK will appear in the MCU.]]]]
[[spoiler: Despite the fact that Darren Cross/MODOK died after doing a HeelFaceTurn, there is a possibility that a new MODOK will appear in the MCU, it even opens the possibility that we will see George Tarleton himself in the future of the MCU becoming the new MODOK.]]

Prior to ''Quantumania's'' release, [[spoiler: it was said that the Kang, who is a variant]], was ''the'' main Kang and would be the villain of ''Avengers: The Kang Dynasty''.

Originally, the planned ending was going to be considerably different. [[spoiler: Instead of Kang shrinking and merging with his energy core]], he was going to take advantage of Hope coming back for Scott and escape the Quantum Realm to Earth. Scott and Hope were going to be stranded, only hoping that Hank, Janet and Cassie would find a way to get them out, and terrified that Kang was free.

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Rama-Tut will be the villain of the Fantastic Four's inaugural MCU film.]]]]
[[spoiler: ''Quantumania'' went to the trouble of introducing the Rama-Tut and Centurion variants, so they'll surely have some individual moments to shine outside the council. An MCU Doctor Doom would probably take a while to properly set up, and the MCU FF film is the last film before ''The Kang Dynasty'' so having Rama-Tut as the villain would be a good lead in.]]

With there being possibilites of Ant-Man returning, it is likely there are possible adventures that might happen.

[[folder: Future Film Theories]]

[[folder:Post-release & Future Film Theories]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Darren Criss/MODOK will be given posthumous honorary Avenger status.]]]]

[[spoiler:Before performing his RedemptionEqualsDeath HeroicSacrifice, Darren says at least he'll get to go out and Avenger. With Scott just going with it. However, when the Avengers inevitably re-assemble in ''Kang Dynasty'' Scott will make mention of Darren's sacrifice. Sure it didn't stick but he had no way of knowing that. Plus while Darren wasn't (at the time) an Avenger, ''Scott'' is. I would think helping to stop Kang originally would at least put him under consideration. Maybe after Kang is defeated once and for all, Darren will be given honorary Avenger status to honor his sacrifice.]]

[[spoiler: Despite the fact that Darren Cross/MODOK died after doing a HeelFaceTurn, there is a possibility that a new MODOK will appear in the MCU, it even opens the possibility that we will see George Tarleton himself in the future of the MCU becoming the new MODOK .]]