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22nd Apr '18 4:26:05 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: The monolith sent Simmons to [[Comicbook/SecretWars Battleworld]].]]

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[[WMG: The monolith sent Simmons to [[Comicbook/SecretWars [[Comicbook/SecretWars1984 Battleworld]].]]
22nd Apr '18 12:11:23 PM nombretomado
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** DC's {{Shazam}} movie is in the works, so this might get held up a bit.

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** DC's {{Shazam}} ComicBook/{{Shazam}} movie is in the works, so this might get held up a bit.
21st Apr '18 1:24:39 PM ablackraptor
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[[WMG: Everyone will continue to make poor choices to prevent catastrophe]]
First Fitz[[spoiler:tortured Daisy in order to get her powers back]] as he believed it was needed to control the Gravitonium needed to close the rift, a decision that is ''highly'' flawed (ignoring that he could have found other ways to get her powers back or even just replicate them, but in doing so he has potentially set Daisy on the course that will turn her into the Destroyer of Worlds). Then, Yo-Yo [[spoiler:kills Ruby to stop her becoming the Destroyer]], something that drives Hale to the DespairEventHorizon and makes her [[spoiler:side with the Confederacy]], likely bringing about the Kree's occupation of what's left of humanity, if not destroy the earth first.
Also, future!Yo-Yo told her past self that its [[spoiler:their attempts to save Coulson]] that will doom them, not to mention several points in the future where IDidWhatIHadToDo rationale was used to excuse horrible actions (Deke selling Daisy to the Kree, Yo-Yo framing Grill's enforcer to save everyone else). Essentially, the theme of the season seems to be that this line of thinking, that its OK to commit horrible acts so long as you're 'saving the day', even when it could potentially doom the future, is short-sighted and cruel, never mind selfish. So, its likely that we'll see more characters (probably May and Jemma, as they're the ones shown agreeing with Fitz's actions) do similar things to prevent the terrible future, only to end up being the things that enable it (in fact its likely May who'll do something to save Coulson to stop it).

[[WMG: Ruby will return]]
Because [[spoiler:killing a perfectly good EvilCounterpart to Daisy is really a major TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter, and her powers are linked to Graviton, who's ability to ''always'' comes back from the dead in the comics is actually a plot point of his character, its unlikely that she'll stay dead.]]
[[spoiler: Most likely, due to the time-travel plot of the season, and the fact this event is apparently one of the catalysts for causing the BadFuture, they'll have to undo it in the end to stop the bad future unfolding. Alternatively, linking it with the attempts to save Coulson, the team might acquire Kree blood from the Confederacy's attack and attempt to use it for Coulson, only for Hale to instead hyjack it to revive her daughter, too]].
20th Apr '18 7:03:20 PM JumperPrime
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[[WMG: Yo-Yo was wrong at the end of All Roads Lead...]]
She didn't save the world, she just started the countdown to destruction.
13th Apr '18 6:33:17 PM JumperPrime
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* That could be why Elena told her past self that they need to let Coulson die. They take down Hale and take possession of the infusion chamber, all loaded with Gravitonium and ready to go. They're planning to destroy/dismantle it, but Coulson collapses, his time has come, he's minutes from death when someone gets the idea to use the chamber to save him. It works, but he soon starts to lose control, either from the minds inside the Gravitonium fighting for control or he just can't handle the godlike power over all gravity. The last video of Daisy right before the Earth shattered was her refusing to leave for the Lighthouse with everyone else. She goes to make one last attempt to talk down Coulson, but fails, and she is unable to otherwise stop him from setting off the chain reaction that shatters the earth.
10th Apr '18 3:10:45 PM DasNordlicht91
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[[WMG: Coulson gets sucked into the Gravitonium.]]
We know that the Gravitonium's been sucking people into it (per S5E16), with people who have a grudge against Coulson [[spoiler:Dr. Hall and Quinn being those currently trapped inside the substance]] being sucked into it. It's not out of the realm that Phil himself ends up with this fate. This would explain why Future!Yo-Yo is insistent that Coulson has to die in order to save the world.
9th Apr '18 12:27:13 PM ShadowWingLG
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** Partially Confirmed- Ian's fate has been revealed [[spoiler:as being consumed by Hall from within the Gravitonium for revenge]] and that [[spoiler:both Hall and Quinn are still 'alive' within the Gravitonium]]
8th Apr '18 9:09:29 AM DasNordlicht91
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* Kinda-sorta Jossed. While Creel does turn on Hale and Hydra, it isn't for the above-mentioned reasons. [[spoiler:It takes Coulson convincing him of Hale having Talbot tortured while in captivity for Creel to help against Hydra. It's also established that he still sorta believes that Daisy shot Talbot, despite evidence to the contrary.]]
31st Mar '18 4:47:59 PM Morbuss
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[[WMG: Ways SHIELD can save the future]]
With Episode 15 revealing that Whitehall's project was known as [[spoiler:Destroyer Of Worlds]], it is probable that Coulson will attempt to destroy the project to prevent the BadFuture. On the other hand, Daisy may just walk right into Hale's hands and doom the world. Elena hopes that if she dies the future breaks down because of a paradox, hence why she believes herself to be invincible, as she later convinces Simmons. Herego:
* Coulson destroys the machine, preventing the HYDRA program from being completed.
* Either Elena or Simmons perform a HeroicSacrifice by letting themselves be killed so as to cause a paradox.[[note]]Elena saw her future self so knows she survives the apocalypse. Gemma knows that Deke is her grandson, thus her death before her daughter's birth will make him cease to exist.[[/note]]
26th Mar '18 10:17:05 AM ShadowWingLG
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[[WMG: Creel is only playing along with Hale and hasn't done a FaceHeelTurn against SHIELD]]
Creel claims that he saw the video and believes that Daisy did shoot Talbot. However Creel is an experienced boxer/fighter and one thing a boxer has to be good at is reading people and figuring out how they move and what they are going to pull next given his following role as Talbot's bodyguard chances are good that he'd spot things before others. The LMD!Daisy just stalked into the room and shot Talbot, she didn't move or act like the real Daisy would, most people would take it at face value but it's possible Creel DID notice something 'off' about Daisy. Once he met the LMD Superior...and realized that it WAS possible to have a perfect physical replica robot...and Talbot may have TOLD him about the LMDs found in the Playground. Well he's not stupid, but rather than confront Hale he played along...might even be encouraging the whole "Revenge for Talbot" angle to get close to SHIELD and help them out later...
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