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30th Apr '17 12:31:27 PM nombretomado
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** ''Franchise/DragonBall'' in general was this to Western viewers. There have been multiple attempts to bring the franchise stateside, but all have failed. The Harmony Gold dub never officially aired. The [[Creator/TheOceanGroup Ocean Dub]] of ''Anime/DragonBall'' only lasted one season before getting cancelled. A year later, they skipped to ''Anime/DragonBallZ,'' and while it lasted longer, it got cancelled on a cliffhanger due to airing at a poor timeslot. When ''WesternAnimation/{{Toonami}}'' [[NetworkToTheRescue picked up DBZ]], the ratings skyrocketed, which allowed the show to get revived with a new English dub by Creator/{{Funimation}}.

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** ''Franchise/DragonBall'' in general was this to Western viewers. There have been multiple attempts to bring the franchise stateside, but all have failed. The Harmony Gold dub never officially aired. The [[Creator/TheOceanGroup Ocean Dub]] of ''Anime/DragonBall'' only lasted one season before getting cancelled. A year later, they skipped to ''Anime/DragonBallZ,'' and while it lasted longer, it got cancelled on a cliffhanger due to airing at a poor timeslot. When ''WesternAnimation/{{Toonami}}'' ''Creator/{{Toonami}}'' [[NetworkToTheRescue picked up DBZ]], the ratings skyrocketed, which allowed the show to get revived with a new English dub by Creator/{{Funimation}}.
13th Apr '17 8:20:26 PM Goldenguy
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* When ''Anime/DigimonTamers'' first aired, many fans of the ''Adventure'' series were disappointed and confused by the lack of relation between the stories, and much of the themes and subtext were lost on younger viewers. Over a decade later, thanks to both access to the Japanese version and a higher demand for more cerebral, deconstructive series, ''Tamers'' has gained a large amount of popularity, and is easily the second most popular Digimon series. The fact that a popular countdown artist by the name of ''WebVideo/TheAutarch'' put it #1 on his "Top 10 most nostalgic animated shows" list may also have something to do with that.

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* When ''Anime/DigimonTamers'' first aired, many fans of the ''Adventure'' series were disappointed and confused by the lack of relation between the stories, and much of the themes and subtext were lost on younger viewers. Over a decade later, thanks to both access to the Japanese version and a higher demand for more cerebral, deconstructive series, ''Tamers'' has gained a large amount of popularity, and is easily the second most popular Digimon series. The fact that a popular countdown artist by the name of ''WebVideo/TheAutarch'' put it #1 on his "Top 10 most nostalgic animated shows" list may also have something to do with that.
19th Mar '17 11:29:51 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* In TheSixties, ''Anime/HolsPrinceOfTheSun'' had an horrifyingly TroubledProduction, suffered lots of ExecutiveMeddling and bombed as a result. Now it's considered as one of the most classic anime movies ever.
23rd Jan '17 1:56:38 PM Arcana4th
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* ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' has a minor example. The ending is still controversial and the issues pointed out are still there and still bother fans, but the following installment, ''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3'', was so divisive and the fans hate the ending so much that ''[=DR3=]'' got fans back for this.
29th Dec '16 9:31:38 PM quackytrope
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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]] (primarily due to the [[ShoutOut/JoJosBizarreAdventure character names]] creating [[ScrewedByTheLawyers a gigantic mess of legal issues]]), although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to 13 half-hour [=OVAs=]) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Because of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series were starting to fall off in popularity. The anime's popularity has also led to more people playing [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureHeritageForTheFuture the Capcom fighting game]].

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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]] (primarily due to the [[ShoutOut/JoJosBizarreAdventure character names]] creating [[ScrewedByTheLawyers a gigantic mess of legal issues]]), although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to 13 half-hour [=OVAs=]) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Because of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series were starting to fall off in popularity. The anime's popularity has also led to more people playing [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureHeritageForTheFuture the Capcom fighting game]].
29th Dec '16 9:07:15 PM MyFinalEdits
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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]] (primarily due to the [[ShoutOut/JoJosBizarreAdventure character names]] creating [[ScrewedByTheLawyers a gigantic mess of legal issues]]), although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to 13 half-hour [=OVAs=]) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Because of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series were starting to fall off in popularity.
** The anime's popularity has also led to more people playing [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureHeritageForTheFuture the Capcom fighting game]].

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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]] (primarily due to the [[ShoutOut/JoJosBizarreAdventure character names]] creating [[ScrewedByTheLawyers a gigantic mess of legal issues]]), although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to 13 half-hour [=OVAs=]) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Because of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series were starting to fall off in popularity. \n** The anime's popularity has also led to more people playing [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureHeritageForTheFuture the Capcom fighting game]].
28th Dec '16 11:38:40 PM quackytrope
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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]] (primarily due to the [[ShoutOut/JoJosBizarreAdventure character names]] creating [[ScrewedByTheLawyers a gigantic mess of legal issues]]), although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to 13 half-hour [=OVAs=]) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Because of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series were starting to fall off in popularity. The anime's popularity has also led to more people playing [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureHeritageForTheFuture the Capcom fighting game]].

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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]] (primarily due to the [[ShoutOut/JoJosBizarreAdventure character names]] creating [[ScrewedByTheLawyers a gigantic mess of legal issues]]), although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to 13 half-hour [=OVAs=]) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Because of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series were starting to fall off in popularity.
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The anime's popularity has also led to more people playing [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureHeritageForTheFuture the Capcom fighting game]].
28th Dec '16 11:37:31 PM quackytrope
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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]] (primarily due to the [[ShoutOut/JoJosBizarreAdventure character names]] creating [[ScrewedByTheLawyers a gigantic mess of legal issues]]), although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to 13 half-hour [=OVAs=]) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Because of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series were starting to fall off in popularity.

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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]] (primarily due to the [[ShoutOut/JoJosBizarreAdventure character names]] creating [[ScrewedByTheLawyers a gigantic mess of legal issues]]), although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to 13 half-hour [=OVAs=]) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Because of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series were starting to fall off in popularity. The anime's popularity has also led to more people playing [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureHeritageForTheFuture the Capcom fighting game]].
27th Dec '16 5:02:02 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* A rare character example: Minmay from ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' was one of the most hated characters ever, partly due to her whiny voice provided by Creator/RebeccaForstadt (the QUEEN of the BrattyHalfPint voice), the atrocious quality of her dubbed songs, and her [[TheDitz overall ditziness]]. But over the years, people who once hated her have now warmed up to her and see her more as a goofy but good-hearted girl who was unable to cope with the insane situation she found herself in.

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* A rare character example: Minmay from ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' was one of the most hated characters ever, partly due to her whiny voice provided by Creator/RebeccaForstadt (the QUEEN of (who, to say it politely, was ''not'' the BrattyHalfPint voice), most suited actress for the atrocious role), the bad quality of her dubbed songs, and her [[TheDitz overall ditziness]]. But over the years, people who once hated her have now warmed up to her and see her more as a goofy but good-hearted girl who was unable to cope with the insane situation she found herself in.
19th Dec '16 7:59:55 PM Isaac_Heller
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* The ''{{Anime/Pokemon}}'' anime's ''Orange Islands'' arc was originally disregarded as {{Filler}} that didn't really amount to anything since the Gym challenges weren't always actual battles and the League itself wasn't based on an in-game region. Nowadays, whenever a debate starts concerning Ash's competence as a trainer, people will often mention it immediately, since his victory there technically means Ash qualifies for the title of Champion, and that also marks the first real sign of his growth as a Pokémon Trainer. It is also pointed out that the Orange Islands brought several fan-favourites such as Ash's Lapras, Ash's Snorlax, and the Crystal Onix, and that the battle between Ash and Drake was the series' first full battle. As such, several people are interested in the upcoming ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' adaptation because it seems to be something of a loose spiritual adaptation of the Orange Islands arc.

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* The ''{{Anime/Pokemon}}'' anime's ''Orange Islands'' arc was originally disregarded as {{Filler}} that didn't really amount to anything since the Gym challenges weren't always actual battles and the League itself wasn't based on an in-game region. Nowadays, whenever a debate starts concerning Ash's competence as a trainer, people will often mention it immediately, since his victory there technically means Ash qualifies for the title of Champion, and that also marks the first real sign of his growth as a Pokémon Trainer. It is also pointed out that the Orange Islands brought several fan-favourites such as Ash's Lapras, Ash's Snorlax, and the Crystal Onix, and that the battle between Ash and Drake was the series' first full battle. As such, several people are interested in the upcoming ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' adaptation because it seems to be something of a loose spiritual adaptation of the Orange Islands arc.
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