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3rd Jul '16 4:16:26 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* That Creator/ADVFilms was given the go-ahead to make an uncut dub of the original ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' and cast Minmay with an actress who actually knew how to make her likeable (Mari Iijima, her original Japanese VA) didn't hurt either.

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* ** That Creator/ADVFilms was given the go-ahead to make an uncut dub of the original ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' and cast Minmay with an actress who actually knew how to make her likeable (Mari Iijima, her original Japanese VA) didn't hurt either.
3rd Jul '16 3:00:42 PM firejewel
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* While ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' is still mostly disliked, or at least considered SoOkayItsAverage, the Super Saiyan 4 transformation is generally considered to be one of its best contributions to the overall lore. When it received canon counterparts in the form of Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, the SS4 form set itself apart with its more imaginative design and the fact it recalls the association between Saiyans and Apes. ''GT'' also has the fewest continuity errors, but this didn't save the series from being hit with CanonDiscontinuity to make way for ''Battle of Gods'', ''Resurrection F'', and the newest television series, ''Super''.

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* While ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' is still mostly disliked, or at least considered SoOkayItsAverage, the Super Saiyan 4 transformation is generally considered to be one of its best contributions to the overall lore. When it received canon counterparts in the form of Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, the SS4 [=SS4=] form set itself apart with its more imaginative design and the fact it recalls the association between Saiyans and Apes. ''GT'' also has the fewest continuity errors, but this didn't save the series from being hit with CanonDiscontinuity to make way for ''Battle of Gods'', ''Resurrection F'', and the newest television series, ''Super''.
5th Jun '16 9:11:27 PM BNSF1995
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* The Diamond and Pearl seasons of the ''{{Anime/Pokemon}}'' anime were often criticised initially, due to the repetition of the previous two eras' formula, the ArcFatigue and increased {{Flanderization}} of the cast. After being followed by the Black and White seasons however, which deviated greatly from characterisation and continuity and are often panned for messy pacing and execution (as well as having some of the series' most polarising additions such as Iris), the DP era tends to be appreciated more for being the last era feeling in tone with the original format.

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* The Diamond and Pearl seasons of the ''{{Anime/Pokemon}}'' anime were often criticised initially, due to the repetition of the previous two eras' formula, the ArcFatigue and increased {{Flanderization}} of the cast. After being followed by the Black and White seasons however, which deviated greatly from characterisation and continuity and are often panned for messy pacing and execution (as well as having some of the series' most polarising additions such as Iris), Iris, as well as replacing Brock with Cilan and, for the first half of the series, making Team Rocket competent and not funny at all), the DP era tends to be appreciated more for being the last era feeling in tone with the original format.
5th Jun '16 9:08:50 PM BNSF1995
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* While ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' is still mostly disliked, or at least considered SoOkayItsAverage, the Super Saiyan 4 transformation is generally considered to be one of its best contributions to the overall lore. When it received canon counterparts in the form of Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, the SS4 form set itself apart with its more imaginative design and the fact it recalls the association between Saiyans and Apes.

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* While ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' is still mostly disliked, or at least considered SoOkayItsAverage, the Super Saiyan 4 transformation is generally considered to be one of its best contributions to the overall lore. When it received canon counterparts in the form of Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, the SS4 form set itself apart with its more imaginative design and the fact it recalls the association between Saiyans and Apes. ''GT'' also has the fewest continuity errors, but this didn't save the series from being hit with CanonDiscontinuity to make way for ''Battle of Gods'', ''Resurrection F'', and the newest television series, ''Super''.
24th May '16 6:17:00 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* The Vehichle ''{{Voltron}}'' didn't enjoy half the popularity of the Lion Force Voltron. But that's only because it followed the Lion episodes in most markets (in some, it was shown in bits and pieces between several Lion episodes). The Vehicle series wasn't "bad" by any stretch. It simply had the unfortunate tendency to be compared to the "cooler", but more formulaic Lion series. Kids of that time latched on to the Lion series probably because it had elements that they already identified with: Fairy tales (magic, castles, princesses, evil rulers) and superheroes (the SuperRobot and the FiveManBand). Vehicle Voltron was adapted from the more MilitaryScienceFiction show ''Anime/DairuggerXV'', presenting a more mature HardScienceFiction ''Franchise/StarTrek'' like format. It also had a lot of characters to keep track of on both sides as well as presenting a lot of shades of grey instead of good vs. evil. Kids just weren't yet ready for a cartoon that had a lot of character relationships, politics, and subplots. It was the early 80s after all. Kids like their formulas. They just wanted to see "action". But then ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' would come along and then they'd be ready. Now Vehichle Voltron is looked at as wrongfully underappreciated. One will also now notice that ''Dairugger'' was far less Bowlderized than ''Golion''which even in its original form was formulaic MonsterOfTheWeek.

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* The Vehichle ''{{Voltron}}'' ''Anime/{{Voltron}}'' didn't enjoy half the popularity of the Lion Force Voltron. But that's only because it followed the Lion episodes in most markets (in some, it was shown in bits and pieces between several Lion episodes). The Vehicle series wasn't "bad" by any stretch. It simply had the unfortunate tendency to be compared to the "cooler", but more formulaic Lion series. Kids of that time latched on to the Lion series probably because it had elements that they already identified with: Fairy tales (magic, castles, princesses, evil rulers) and superheroes (the SuperRobot and the FiveManBand). Vehicle Voltron was adapted from the more MilitaryScienceFiction show ''Anime/DairuggerXV'', presenting a more mature HardScienceFiction ''Franchise/StarTrek'' like format. It also had a lot of characters to keep track of on both sides as well as presenting a lot of shades of grey instead of good vs. evil. Kids just weren't yet ready for a cartoon that had a lot of character relationships, politics, and subplots. It was the early 80s after all. Kids like their formulas. They just wanted to see "action". But then ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'' would come along and then they'd be ready. Now Vehichle Voltron is looked at as wrongfully underappreciated. One will also now notice that ''Dairugger'' was far less Bowlderized than ''Golion''which even in its original form was formulaic MonsterOfTheWeek.
20th May '16 2:38:10 PM Oconway
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* ''Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato'' was ScrewedByTheNetwork, airing opposite the very popular ''Anime/HeidiGirlOfTheAlps''. The first season was reduced from 36 (?) to 26 episodes, resulting in a planned appearance by Anime/CaptainHarlock being cut. Later TheMovie become wildly popular and revived the franchise, turning it into one of the most influential anime series in history.

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* ''Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato'' was ScrewedByTheNetwork, airing opposite the very popular ''Anime/HeidiGirlOfTheAlps''. The first season was reduced from 36 (?) 36 to 26 episodes, resulting in a planned appearance by Anime/CaptainHarlock being cut. Later TheMovie become wildly popular and revived the franchise, turning it into one of the most influential anime series in history.
25th Apr '16 6:42:55 PM bowserbros
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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]], although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to short [=OVAs=]) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Becuase of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series started going the DeaderThanDisco route.

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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]], localization]] (primarily due to the [[ShoutOut/JoJosBizarreAdventure character names]] creating [[ScrewedByTheLawyers a gigantic mess of legal issues]]), although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to 13 short [=OVAs=]) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Becuase Because of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series started going the DeaderThanDisco route.
24th Apr '16 3:55:27 PM JTurner82
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* In another Ghibli example, Disney's dub of ''Anime/CastleInTheSky'' commissioned Joe Hisaishi to rerecord his score with a symphony orchestra exclusively for their release. Miyazaki himself approved of the end result. So did certain critics. Many, many American purists, however, were '''''furious''''', instantly condemning the new score as "a crime against all humanity." The Ghibli Blog infamously even called both the dub and the rescore the equivalent of ''Anime/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'''s first American dub, "Warriors of the Wind." Perhaps because of this, Disney reissued the dub without the rescore. Although today there are some fans who still bitterly resent the rescore, ironically, its removal from the dub has caused other reviewers to give it a second evaluation; many recent reviews of the film and the redub now declare the new work as one of the dub's biggest assets, as well as a genuine improvement over the original. Even the rescore has a following of fans, many of who were saddened when it was jettisoned. In fact, the rescore received a soundtrack release in Japan! (The only way to view the film with the rescore is to import the BD from Japan, UK, or Australia.)
17th Apr '16 4:41:49 PM Psi001
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* The Diamond and Pearl seasons of the ''{{Anime/Pokemon}}'' were often criticised initially, due to the repetition of the previous two eras' formula, the ArcFatigue and increased {{Flanderization}} of the cast. After being followed by the Black and White seasons however, which deviated greatly from characterisation and continuity and are often panned for messy pacing and execution (as well as having some of the series' most polarising additions such as Iris), the DP era tends to be appreciated more for being the last era feeling in tone with the original format.

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* The Diamond and Pearl seasons of the ''{{Anime/Pokemon}}'' anime were often criticised initially, due to the repetition of the previous two eras' formula, the ArcFatigue and increased {{Flanderization}} of the cast. After being followed by the Black and White seasons however, which deviated greatly from characterisation and continuity and are often panned for messy pacing and execution (as well as having some of the series' most polarising additions such as Iris), the DP era tends to be appreciated more for being the last era feeling in tone with the original format.
17th Apr '16 4:41:26 PM Psi001
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* The Transformers Anime/UnicronTrilogy. Armada was downplayed due to its GottaCatchEmAll attitude with Mini-Cons, and Cybertron for its [[DullSurprise limited animation]]. However, both have picked up in popularity due to later season story lines, and "[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ambush Ambush]]" is considered to have some of the best CG of ANY Transformers media up to that the time.

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* The Transformers Anime/UnicronTrilogy. Armada ''Armada'' was downplayed due to its GottaCatchEmAll attitude with Mini-Cons, and Cybertron ''Cybertron'' for its [[DullSurprise limited animation]]. However, both have picked up in popularity due to later season story lines, and "[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ambush Ambush]]" is considered to have some of the best CG of ANY Transformers media up to that the time. ''Energon'' however, still tends to be received rather poorly.


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* The Diamond and Pearl seasons of the ''{{Anime/Pokemon}}'' were often criticised initially, due to the repetition of the previous two eras' formula, the ArcFatigue and increased {{Flanderization}} of the cast. After being followed by the Black and White seasons however, which deviated greatly from characterisation and continuity and are often panned for messy pacing and execution (as well as having some of the series' most polarising additions such as Iris), the DP era tends to be appreciated more for being the last era feeling in tone with the original format.
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