History VindicatedByHistory / AnimeAndManga

25th Apr '16 6:42:55 PM bowserbros
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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]], although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to short [=OVAs=]) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Becuase of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series started going the DeaderThanDisco route.

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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]], localization]] (primarily due to the [[ShoutOut/JoJosBizarreAdventure character names]] creating [[ScrewedByTheLawyers a gigantic mess of legal issues]]), although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to 13 short [=OVAs=]) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Becuase Because of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series started going the DeaderThanDisco route.
24th Apr '16 3:55:27 PM JTurner82
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* In another Ghibli example, Disney's dub of ''Anime/CastleInTheSky'' commissioned Joe Hisaishi to rerecord his score with a symphony orchestra exclusively for their release. Miyazaki himself approved of the end result. So did certain critics. Many, many American purists, however, were '''''furious''''', instantly condemning the new score as "a crime against all humanity." The Ghibli Blog infamously even called both the dub and the rescore the equivalent of ''Anime/NausicaaOfTheValleyOfTheWind'''s first American dub, "Warriors of the Wind." Perhaps because of this, Disney reissued the dub without the rescore. Although today there are some fans who still bitterly resent the rescore, ironically, its removal from the dub has caused other reviewers to give it a second evaluation; many recent reviews of the film and the redub now declare the new work as one of the dub's biggest assets, as well as a genuine improvement over the original. Even the rescore has a following of fans, many of who were saddened when it was jettisoned. In fact, the rescore received a soundtrack release in Japan! (The only way to view the film with the rescore is to import the BD from Japan, UK, or Australia.)
17th Apr '16 4:41:49 PM Psi001
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* The Diamond and Pearl seasons of the ''{{Anime/Pokemon}}'' were often criticised initially, due to the repetition of the previous two eras' formula, the ArcFatigue and increased {{Flanderization}} of the cast. After being followed by the Black and White seasons however, which deviated greatly from characterisation and continuity and are often panned for messy pacing and execution (as well as having some of the series' most polarising additions such as Iris), the DP era tends to be appreciated more for being the last era feeling in tone with the original format.

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* The Diamond and Pearl seasons of the ''{{Anime/Pokemon}}'' anime were often criticised initially, due to the repetition of the previous two eras' formula, the ArcFatigue and increased {{Flanderization}} of the cast. After being followed by the Black and White seasons however, which deviated greatly from characterisation and continuity and are often panned for messy pacing and execution (as well as having some of the series' most polarising additions such as Iris), the DP era tends to be appreciated more for being the last era feeling in tone with the original format.
17th Apr '16 4:41:26 PM Psi001
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* The Transformers Anime/UnicronTrilogy. Armada was downplayed due to its GottaCatchEmAll attitude with Mini-Cons, and Cybertron for its [[DullSurprise limited animation]]. However, both have picked up in popularity due to later season story lines, and "[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ambush Ambush]]" is considered to have some of the best CG of ANY Transformers media up to that the time.

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* The Transformers Anime/UnicronTrilogy. Armada ''Armada'' was downplayed due to its GottaCatchEmAll attitude with Mini-Cons, and Cybertron ''Cybertron'' for its [[DullSurprise limited animation]]. However, both have picked up in popularity due to later season story lines, and "[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ambush Ambush]]" is considered to have some of the best CG of ANY Transformers media up to that the time. ''Energon'' however, still tends to be received rather poorly.


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* The Diamond and Pearl seasons of the ''{{Anime/Pokemon}}'' were often criticised initially, due to the repetition of the previous two eras' formula, the ArcFatigue and increased {{Flanderization}} of the cast. After being followed by the Black and White seasons however, which deviated greatly from characterisation and continuity and are often panned for messy pacing and execution (as well as having some of the series' most polarising additions such as Iris), the DP era tends to be appreciated more for being the last era feeling in tone with the original format.
18th Mar '16 2:09:21 PM Willbyr
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* Similar to the Escaflowne example above, albeit to a lesser extent, ''Anime/IeNakiKoRemi'' (or Nobody's Child Remi) was the last series from the WorldMasterpieceTheater before their ten year hiatus, and WMT was already having problems before then. The show did horribly in Japan, suffered from despicably low ratings, and was [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks brutally lambasted for massive changes from the original Hector Malot book]] (like changing the main character into a girl, removing the boat, and expanding on one small part of the story and running with it all the way through). The critical reception was so bad, the final three episodes never aired on TV and were straight to DVD instead. Thankfully, thanks to a devoted fansub group, some international attention, and more appreciative fans, it has gotten more positive reception in the form of fans viewing it as its own entity as a cute, charming, somewhat dark series, a good show in its own right, and don't mind that it's not faithful to the source material. Those who like the source material try to view the show as a separate entity and appreciate what it does well, rather than nitpick at everything it did wrong.

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* Similar to the Escaflowne example above, albeit to a lesser extent, ''Anime/IeNakiKoRemi'' (or Nobody's Child Remi) was the last series from the WorldMasterpieceTheater ''Anime/WorldMasterpieceTheater'' before their ten year hiatus, and WMT was already having problems before then. The show did horribly in Japan, suffered from despicably low ratings, and was [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks brutally lambasted for massive changes from the original Hector Malot book]] (like changing the main character into a girl, removing the boat, and expanding on one small part of the story and running with it all the way through). The critical reception was so bad, the final three episodes never aired on TV and were straight to DVD instead. Thankfully, thanks to a devoted fansub group, some international attention, and more appreciative fans, it has gotten more positive reception in the form of fans viewing it as its own entity as a cute, charming, somewhat dark series, a good show in its own right, and don't mind that it's not faithful to the source material. Those who like the source material try to view the show as a separate entity and appreciate what it does well, rather than nitpick at everything it did wrong.
30th Jan '16 5:10:14 AM Jnglmpera
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* ''Anime/IdolmasterXenoglossia'' was bashed by fans of the [[VideoGame/TheIdolmaster original game]] for being an InNameOnly adaptation when it first came out. Nowadays it's seen as a more decent robot anime ''as long as'' you don't consider it as an adaptation of ''IDOLM@STER''. This is mostly because there has since been a [[Anime/TheIdolmaster more faithful adaptation]] and that Xenoglassia was directed by Nagai Tatsuyuki, who later went on to direct other animes such as ''LightNovel/Toradora'' and ''[[Anime/AnoHanaTheFlowerWeSawThatDay Anohana]]''.

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* ''Anime/IdolmasterXenoglossia'' was bashed by fans of the [[VideoGame/TheIdolmaster original game]] for being an InNameOnly adaptation when it first came out. Nowadays it's seen as a more decent robot anime ''as long as'' you don't consider it as an adaptation of ''IDOLM@STER''. This is mostly because there has since been a [[Anime/TheIdolmaster more faithful adaptation]] and that Xenoglassia was directed by Nagai Tatsuyuki, who later went on to direct other animes such as ''LightNovel/Toradora'' and animes, most notably ''[[Anime/AnoHanaTheFlowerWeSawThatDay Anohana]]''.
30th Jan '16 5:06:56 AM Jnglmpera
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**Its failure in the initial run probably had something to do with the fact that it was bundled with ''Anime/GraveOfTheFireflies'', one of the most depressing anime in history.


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*''Anime/IdolmasterXenoglossia'' was bashed by fans of the [[VideoGame/TheIdolmaster original game]] for being an InNameOnly adaptation when it first came out. Nowadays it's seen as a more decent robot anime ''as long as'' you don't consider it as an adaptation of ''IDOLM@STER''. This is mostly because there has since been a [[Anime/TheIdolmaster more faithful adaptation]] and that Xenoglassia was directed by Nagai Tatsuyuki, who later went on to direct other animes such as ''LightNovel/Toradora'' and ''[[Anime/AnoHanaTheFlowerWeSawThatDay Anohana]]''.
9th Jan '16 11:30:30 AM MyFinalEdits
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** While Dragonball GT is still mostly disliked, or at least considered SoOkayItsAverage, the Super Saiyan 4 transformation is generally considered to be one of it's best contributions to the overall lore. When it received canon counterparts in the form of Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, the SS4 form set itself apart with it's more imaginative design and the fact it recalls the association between Saiyans and Apes.

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** * While Dragonball GT ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' is still mostly disliked, or at least considered SoOkayItsAverage, the Super Saiyan 4 transformation is generally considered to be one of it's its best contributions to the overall lore. When it received canon counterparts in the form of Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, the SS4 form set itself apart with it's its more imaginative design and the fact it recalls the association between Saiyans and Apes.
9th Jan '16 7:12:59 AM Tropetastic1995
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** While Dragonball GT is still mostly disliked, or at least considered SoOkayItsAverage, the Super Saiyan 4 transformation is generally considered to be one of it's best contributions to the overall lore. When it received canon counterparts in the form of Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, the SS4 form set itself apart with it's more imaginative design and the fact it recalls the association between Saiyans and Apes.
4th Jan '16 6:14:35 PM JRads47
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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]], although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to short OVAs) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Becuase of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series started going the DeaderThanDisco route.

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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' has always been popular in Japan, but it took a while for it to catch on in the west. While it was never hated in western countries, it was always pushed aside by other Magazine/ShonenJump series and remained a CultClassic at best, thanks to [[NoExportForYou a lack of localization]], although MemeticMutation caused a bump in popularity in the early 2000's. Then it gained a proper anime (as opposed to short OVAs) [=OVAs=]) in 2012, and because it came nearly 25 years after the manga started, it has no {{filler}} and it doesn't have to worry about [[OvertookTheManga taking a different path in the story]]. Becuase of this and [[VideoGame/JoJosBizarreAdventureAllStarBattle the tie-in game]], [=JoJo=] became exponentially more popular in TheNewTens, an era where fellow Shonen series started going the DeaderThanDisco route.
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