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** DMC were irked by Clarkson's comments regarding the DeLorean in the Autovista mode, and an update caused it to be mysteriously removed without mention.

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** DMC were irked by Clarkson's comments regarding the DeLorean [=DeLorean=] in the Autovista mode, and an update caused it to be mysteriously removed without mention.mention. The commentary still exists in print in the booklet shipped with the ''Forza 4'' collector's editions, however. You can also still view it [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isp5E9xSpDg on YouTube]].



** The "Out of time achievement in 4 is to [[Film/BackToTheFuture reach 88 miles per hour in a Delorean]].

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** The "Out of time achievement in 4 is to [[Film/BackToTheFuture reach 88 miles per hour in a Delorean]].DeLorean]].



* TechnologyMarchesOn: The Autovista description of the Delorean's interior describes how advanced its tape player and AM/FM radio is

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* TechnologyMarchesOn: The Autovista description of the Delorean's [=DeLorean's=] interior describes how advanced its tape player and AM/FM radio isis.
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* TheAllegedCar: ''Forza 4'' features famous Alleged Cars like the Ford Pinto, AMC Gremlin, Chevrolet Corvair, and the Mustang King Cobra. However, despite being ''painfully'' slow, they all work just as well as any other car, and several of them become {{Lethal Joke Character}}s when upgraded and tuned.

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* TheAllegedCar: ''Forza 4'' features famous Alleged Cars like the Ford Pinto, AMC Gremlin, Chevrolet Corvair, and the Mustang King Cobra.Cobra, and of course the [[BackToTheFuture DMC DeLorean]]. However, despite being ''painfully'' slow, they all work just as well as any other car, and several of them become {{Lethal Joke Character}}s when upgraded and tuned.
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* TheAllegedCar: ''Forza 4'' features famous Alleged Cars like the Ford Pinto, Chevrolet Corvair, and the Mustang King Cobra. However, despite being ''painfully'' slow, they all work just as well as any other car, and several of them become {{Lethal Joke Character}}s when upgraded and tuned.

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* TheAllegedCar: ''Forza 4'' features famous Alleged Cars like the Ford Pinto, AMC Gremlin, Chevrolet Corvair, and the Mustang King Cobra. However, despite being ''painfully'' slow, they all work just as well as any other car, and several of them become {{Lethal Joke Character}}s when upgraded and tuned.
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* DesignItYourselfEquipment: Players can customize both the paint/apply decals, and customize the mechanics of a car. You might get a Dodge Neon with a V10 from the Viper and the AWD system from the Dodge Stealth/Mitsubishi 3000GT, with a customized body kit, and a replica British Petroleum livery painted on top.
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* SequelHook: Open for debate, but many players have considered the addition of SUV's and other other classic cars in ''4'' as a way of boosting the car list for ''Horizon''.
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** The first game had the Blue Mountains course. It was an exact replica of Australia's Bathurst circuit, albeit with more lush scenery.
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** Most DLC packs usually include one or two.


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** The September DLC has the GMC Vandura.
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** RealLife example; it's not exactly known what Turn 10 did to get Porsche back, but it's a general assumption they paid EA a huge sack of money.
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* The Lotus Esprit V8 has a similar issue; adding a roll cage blocks half the windscreen so you can only see the bottom half of the road.
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* DidNotDoTheResearch: A few minor details here and there.
** Every R34 Skyline in the game has their brake lights set up wrong.
** One of the Lexus' in ''3'' has its gas cap on the wrong side. Fixed in ''4''.
** The downloadable RUF [=CTR2=] is credited as being rear wheel drive when the car is actually all wheel drive.
*** Jossed, as the [=CTR2=] is incredibly difficult to come across, and the only one Turn 10 could source was a U.S. specification model, with RWD being an optional extra when the car was new.
** Cars which have Esso sponsoring are instead replaced with Exxo sponsoring, Esso's American counterpart. Down to ExecutiveMeddling however.
** A few cars which came with neon, almost fluorescent paint (such as the Ford Focus RS) are depicted as being quite a few shades darker, and are metallic as opposed to the glossy finsih they actually have. Designs on the storefront irradicate this issue though.
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** DMC were irked by Clarkson's comments regarding the DeLorean in the Autovista mode, and an update caused it to be mysteriously removed without mention.
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** The "Out of time achievement in 4 is to [[BackToTheFuture reach 88 miles per hour in a Delorean]].

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** The "Out of time achievement in 4 is to [[BackToTheFuture [[Film/BackToTheFuture reach 88 miles per hour in a Delorean]].
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* DiegeticInterface: Starting with ''2'', the game has [[http://i.imgur.com/t0PoA.jpg fully modeled interiors]] for all its cars, with appropriate gauges depending on what the car is equipped with - tachometers, speedometers, boost gauges, fuel gauges, accelerometers, clocks, et cetera. In the high end purpose-built cars, you can actually disable the entire HUD and still remain fairly aware of your status - the car's electronic dashboard or wheel-mounted display will list lap times, your position, remaining fuel, [=RPMs=], gear, speed, and so on. In cars like the Lamborghini Reventon, with its fully digital fighter-jet esque dashboard, it goes all the way to TechnologyPorn.:
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* DummiedOut: Jeremy Clarkson was originally going to narrate the ''{{Halo}}'' Warthog autovista experience, but it was cut from the game in favor of having Cortana, from the ''Halo'' series, narrate it. However, the Jeremy Clarkson Warthog narration [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzUNdXPGOf4 can be viewed online]].
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* FirstPersonSnapshooter: The games let you take pictures (adjusting focus, aperture, all that jazz) ingame and upload them to the Forza website to download.

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* FirstPersonSnapshooter: The games let you take pictures (adjusting focus, aperture, all that jazz) ingame and upload them to the Forza website to download. ''4'' introduces the Big Shot, which lets you take ''massive'' 3840x2160 pixel shots, then upload them directly to your Forza website profile in all their 30+ megabyte BMP glory.
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* CreatorProvincialism: Not to the same extent as GranTurismo, but there are a lot of classic and modern muscle cars, as the company is American. Recent DLCs have greatly expanded the previous non-existant classic European [[note:*: non-Italian]] cars, adding in companies like Austin-Healey, and adding in cars like the Peugot 205 and BMW 507.

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* CreatorProvincialism: Not to the same extent as GranTurismo, but there are a lot of classic and modern muscle cars, as the company is American. Recent DLCs have greatly expanded the previous non-existant classic European [[note:*: [[hottip:*: non-Italian]] cars, adding in companies like Austin-Healey, and adding in cars like the Peugot 205 and BMW 507.
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* CreatorProvincialism: Not to the same extent as GranTurismo, but there are a lot of classic and modern muscle cars.

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* CreatorProvincialism: Not to the same extent as GranTurismo, but there are a lot of classic and modern muscle cars.cars, as the company is American. Recent DLCs have greatly expanded the previous non-existant classic European [[note:*: non-Italian]] cars, adding in companies like Austin-Healey, and adding in cars like the Peugot 205 and BMW 507.

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* MarathonLevel: Endurance races in ''3'' lasted around an hour to two hours. The events were removed from the career in ''4'', though it's possible to create a custom online race lobby for an endurace race, up to 50 laps (be it on the 1 mile long Ladera test track or on the 10 mile long Nurburgring). A special event to win a [[RareVehicles Unicorn car]] in ''4'' had players join a multiplayer lobby on the Le Mans track in Le Mans Prototype cars, and then required them to do 360 laps. [[BladderOfSteel In an online race.]]



* OldSaveBonus: Having a ''Forza 3'' game save will reward ''Forza 4'' players with additional credits, some unicorn cars (see RareVehicles below), and an achievement.

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* OldSaveBonus: Having a ''Forza 3'' game save will reward ''Forza 4'' players with additional credits, a few select level-up cars, some unicorn cars (see RareVehicles below), and an achievement.
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* LevelGrinding: Getting money in ''Forza 3'' was a relatively slow affair, upgrades were ''expensive'', and the player had no choice in what the level-up cars were, forcing them to spend credits to buy them. However, ''Forza 4'' inverts it, by dumping tons of free cars onto the player (already upgraded, too!) up to level 50, and after that, dumping six figure credit rewards on the player every time they level up, up to level 150. Additionally, many cars in ''4'' are cheaper than ''3'', such as the Ferrari 250 GTO being a mere 10 million credits, rather than 20 million.
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** In ''4'', once the player reaches affinity level 4 for a manufacturer, they get all upgrades, bar rims and bodykits, for free. Couple this with getting a new free car - which is already upgraded to the top of its car class - everytime you level up your driver, means you can save ridiculous amounts of money fairly early into the game.

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** The 2002 Skyline GT-Rs brake lights are set up wrong.

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** The 2002 Every R34 Skyline GT-Rs in the game has their brake lights are set up wrong.wrong.
** One of the Lexus' in ''3'' has its gas cap on the wrong side. Fixed in ''4''.
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** Forza Horizon again has one of five cars for you to choose from. Many players are irritated by this as the cars in question are ones which you'd expect to have been put in the game anyway (such as the Ferrari 458 and the Nissan 370Z). It's debated that these cars just come with unique liveries, and are already in the game, but Turn 10's details - and preorder trailer - don't seem to support this theory.

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* PreOrderBonus: Preordering ''Forza 4'' would give you the [[CoolCar Mazda RX-7 Spirit-R]] unicorn car in ''Forza 3'', which you could then import into ''Forza 4''. Multiple retailers had their own preorder cars, like the Honda CR-Z from the online Microsoft Store, a BMW 1M from Best Buy, 2011 Subaru Impreza WRX [=STi=] fro Amazon, Alfa Romeo Giulietta from [=GameStop=], and the Mini JCW Clubman from Wal-Mart. The pre-order store cars can all be unlocked for 560 MS points, but the RX-7 remains exclusive to people who preordered, or players who win official contests.

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* PreOrderBonus: Preordering ''Forza 4'' Depending on which retailer you ordered from, Forza 4 would give you the [[CoolCar Mazda RX-7 Spirit-R]] unicorn car in ''Forza 3'', which you could then import into ''Forza 4''. Multiple retailers had their own preorder cars, like the Honda CR-Z from the online Microsoft Store, come with a BMW 1M from Best Buy, 2011 Subaru Impreza WRX [=STi=] fro Amazon, Alfa Romeo Giulietta from [=GameStop=], and the Mini JCW Clubman from Wal-Mart. The pre-order store cars can all be unlocked code for 560 MS points, but the RX-7 remains one out of a possible five exclusive to people who cars. Regardless of where you preordered, or players who win official contests.the game would also come with a code including five additional cars. Although, as is the norm recently, both of these can be purchased via Xbox Live.



** There are numerous examples of actual rare cars. For instance, you could be in a race with sixteen Ferrari [=F50=] GTs - Ferrari only made three!
** ''Forza 3'' and ''4'' also have "unicorn cars". These cars cannot be bought in-game, and are only available from offocial competitions or via auction (if you have the millions of credits needed)

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** There are numerous examples of actual rare cars. For instance, you could be in a race with sixteen Ferrari [=F50=] GTs [=GTs=] - Ferrari only made three!
** ''Forza 3'' and ''4'' also have "unicorn cars". These cars cannot be bought in-game, and are only available from offocial official competitions or via by being a VIP.
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auction (if you have the millions of house used to be a good place to get them, although gamers charging 999,999,999 credits needed)for them made Turn 10 realise that the only good that would come out of selling them online would be discovering hackers. An update now prevents players from gifting or selling unicorn cars on the auction house.
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* TheNineties: One of the Rivals mode events bares the same name as this trope. It's description talks about pivitol moments such as the arrival of the internet and the Y2K scare. The event itself is a drag race with any 90's car of your choice.

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** R1 and X class - Le Mans Prototype cars.

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** R1 and X class - Le Mans Prototype cars.cars.
** X class - Modified Le Mans Prototypes.

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* GameBreakingBug: ''Forza 4'' had a bug in online player where players may hang up in loading screen - sometimes up to ''five minutes'', until the game boots them out to the lobby or pukes up a "disc is dirty" error. When this happens, the ''entire lobby'' gets stuck in the loading screen until the person causing the delay get booted out by the game. This was patched in the March 23rd update.

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''Forza 4'' had a bug in online player where players may hang up in loading screen - sometimes up to ''five minutes'', until the game boots them out to the lobby or pukes up a "disc is dirty" error. When this happens, the ''entire lobby'' gets stuck in the loading screen until the person causing the delay get booted out by the game. This was patched in the March 23rd update.update, which then introduced...
** If your car's decals are not visible in a race, your Xbox '''will''' crash when you return to the lobby. How often it happens varies by player, from every other race (rendering the game effectively unplayable) to every dozen or so races.
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: During Autovista, Clarkson will every now and then address his own opinions on the car - for better or worse. A good example would be his take on the Ferrari F50.


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* Recycled Script: Alot of Clarkson's comments during the Autovista section are often taken from his own reviews on TopGear, albeit slightly changed to avoid being too obvious.
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* OverDrive: Any player looking to get the achievements for completion of every event in the game will experience this, especially in ''3'' and ''4''. The endurance races in ''3'' and the two-stage championships in ''4'' are enough to [[StealthPun drive you insane.]]
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** The inclusion of both Porsche and RUF makes it only the 2nd game in history - the first being Test Drive II: The Duel - to feature both manufacturers.

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* BlandNameProduct: Sort of; [=RUF=] in ''Forza 4'' is an actual company that special-builds souped up Porsches, but they functioned as an Expy of Porsche until the Porsche Expansion Pack came out. [=RUFs=] are essentially exactly like Porsches on the exterior, just with the Porsche badges removed. [[GranTurismo Several]] [[ProjectGothamRacing other]] [[TestDrive games]] use RUF as substitute for Porsche, as Electronic Arts rarely allows other companies to use the Porsche license.


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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: RUF to Porsche in Forza 4. Whilst initially seen as a ReplacementScrappy, RUF is one of few manufacturers to be fully sponsored through the game, as shown by the various billboards with the RUF logo. And even with the arrival of the Porsche expansion pack, the developers still add to RUF's car selection with their more famous cars such as the CTR "Yellowbird" as downloadable content.

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