History Videogame / FinalFantasyIV

28th May '16 11:54:57 AM nombretomado
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''Final Fantasy IV'' is considered by many to be one of the best games of the series; if nothing else, it's ''the'' title that had the most impact on the direction the franchise went in, and it had an ''enormous'' influence on virtually every one of its descendants, not to mention on role-playing games in Japan in general. It's been remade/ported numerous times; this has garnered some distaste for the game as [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny its story and battle system haven't aged well.]] In addition to being half of the ''Final Fantasy [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger Chronicles]]'' compilation on the PlayStation, ''FFIV'' has been ported to the [=GBA=], and was the second game (after ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII'', [[NoExportForYou which didn't make it over beforehand]]) to be remade with 3D graphics on the Nintendo DS (this version was ported to PC in 2014). It's also the first remake to add voice acting, if only for key scenes.

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''Final Fantasy IV'' is considered by many to be one of the best games of the series; if nothing else, it's ''the'' title that had the most impact on the direction the franchise went in, and it had an ''enormous'' influence on virtually every one of its descendants, not to mention on role-playing games in Japan in general. It's been remade/ported numerous times; this has garnered some distaste for the game as [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny its story and battle system haven't aged well.]] In addition to being half of the ''Final Fantasy [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger Chronicles]]'' compilation on the PlayStation, UsefulNotes/PlayStation, ''FFIV'' has been ported to the [=GBA=], and was the second game (after ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII'', [[NoExportForYou which didn't make it over beforehand]]) to be remade with 3D graphics on the Nintendo DS (this version was ported to PC in 2014). It's also the first remake to add voice acting, if only for key scenes.
21st May '16 9:46:57 PM nombretomado
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** The Japan-exclusive ''[[MilestoneCelebration Final Fantasy 25th Anniversary Ultimate Box]]'' contains (among other goodies) ''all the first thirteen main games'' for the PS1, PSP, PS2 and PS3, all in one box.

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** The Japan-exclusive ''[[MilestoneCelebration Final Fantasy 25th Anniversary Ultimate Box]]'' contains (among other goodies) ''all the first thirteen main games'' for the PS1, [=PS1=], PSP, PS2 [=PS2=] and PS3, [=PS3=], all in one box.
13th May '16 3:51:20 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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Received a cellphone sequel called ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears The After Years]]'' (also available on WiiWare and the {{PlayStation Portable}}), which stars the old cast and some of their children teaming up again to prevent the same catastrophe from happening again. It, along with ''Final Fantasy IV'' itself, was released on the PSP in March 2011 in Japan and April everywhere else. Also includes a midquel called ''Interlude'' to connect the plots better. Both games use new graphics and is the largest 2D graphical change to the original other than the cellphone version. This version is heavily based on the GameBoyAdvance version, and the only thing taken from the NintendoDS version is the translation of terms (e.g. Carnellian Signet rather than "Bomb Ring").

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Received a cellphone sequel called ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears The After Years]]'' (also available on WiiWare and the {{PlayStation Portable}}), UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable), which stars the old cast and some of their children teaming up again to prevent the same catastrophe from happening again. It, along with ''Final Fantasy IV'' itself, was released on the PSP in March 2011 in Japan and April everywhere else. Also includes a midquel called ''Interlude'' to connect the plots better. Both games use new graphics and is the largest 2D graphical change to the original other than the cellphone version. This version is heavily based on the GameBoyAdvance version, and the only thing taken from the NintendoDS version is the translation of terms (e.g. Carnellian Signet rather than "Bomb Ring").
10th May '16 12:26:00 PM 32_Footsteps
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* CutsceneIncompetence: While credit is due to Tellah for at least thinking of using Esuna on Palom and Porom [[spoiler: after they turn themselves into stone]], it proves ineffective for the only time in the game. Even attempting to use [[spoiler: golden needles or remedies]] after the fact won't cure the ailment.



** The Mysidian Elder apparently gets access to a higher level of Esuna than Rosa ever gets; [[spoiler: he can cure the petrification on Palom and Porom that the player's magic and items cannot undo]].



%%* TheDollEpisode

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%%* TheDollEpisode* TheDollEpisode: When Cecil first goes underground, he passes by Princess Luca, who can't find her dolls. It turns out that Golbez is controlling them via magic, and he sends them after King Giott's crystal. They're [[CreepyDoll creepy enough]] alone (in part because they're apparently a [[TheDividual hexavidual]], but they just dive further into the UncannyValley when [[CombiningMecha they combine into the Calcobrina]].



%%* FightingAShadow

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%%* FightingAShadow* FightingAShadow: The end of the first boss battle with Golbez is possibly this; he's just fine, while his shadow's hand is still able to creep up and take the crystal. Also, two possible random encounters (that get boss music, no less) are Zemus' Mind and Zemus' Breath



** To get Cecil's InfinityPlusOneSword, you have to cross an invisible bridge to reach the BonusBoss you have to fight to obtain it. There's no other invisible pathways at any other point in the game. so if you don't know how to reach it, it can be quite frustrating.

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** To get Cecil's InfinityPlusOneSword, you have to cross an invisible bridge to reach the BonusBoss you have to fight to obtain it. There's no other There are precious few invisible pathways at any other point in the game. so if game, and none of them are in dungeons. If you don't know how to reach it, it can be quite frustrating.



** Early on, Cecil thinks he's just going on a simple delivery run with Kain to get back into the King of Baron's good graces. In the original Japanese and certain translations, he's specifically delivering an item called the Bomb Ring, which pretty much [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin does exactly what you think it would do by the first word of its name]]. His shock at the fires and explosions rage rings hollow in any version where this is the case. Avoided in others, where it's merely the generic Package or the Carnelian Signet (carnelian merely being a type of red stone).



* JunkRare: Outside of very limited situations noted above, the Goblin/Imp summon is basically useless, and it has the same drop rate as things like extra ribbons or the other hidden summons. The only reason it shows up more frequently is because goblins are common foes in several areas. The [=FireBomb=] in the American SNES version as well - not a terribly common drop, from an enemy that only shows up as an uncommon encounter late in the game, and its problems are noted below under UselessItem.



** A more justified example are the rare drop summons. They're ([[JunkRare mostly]])all powerful spells that are remarkably affordable to cast, and well worth teaching to Rydia... or you could sell them for 50 gil each. It makes sense, though - Rydia is LastOfHerKind, so she's literally the only person in the world who could even use them.



* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Cecil and possibly Kain, after the massacre at Mist.
** Definitely Kain, after snapping him back to his senses at the Tower of Zot.

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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Cecil and possibly Kain, after the massacre at Mist.
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Mist. Definitely Kain, after snapping him back to his senses at the Tower of Zot.Zot. [[spoiler: Briefly, Golbez, when Fusoya finally breaks Zemus' hold on him.]]



* WeakWilled: Kain.

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* WeakWilled: Kain.Kain - he gets controlled by Golbez ''twice'', and it's hinted that Zemus tries ''again'' in the final dungeon in the GBA and later releases. Kain resists the third time, though.
21st Apr '16 2:37:37 PM NoxSky12599
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* InfinityPlusOneSword: The [=GBA=] release added several in the BonusDungeon. Most notable are the Lightbringer (for Cecil), Able's lance (for Kain), and Fiery Hammer (for Cid). Not only is their attack power at or near the maximum of 255, but each may randomly cast a high-power spell ''on top of the regular attack!''[[note]]Holy, Tornado, and Flare, respectively[[/note]] [[HoistByHisOwnPetard Just be careful around enemies that use Reflect.]]
13th Apr '16 11:18:48 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** The [[PoorCommunicationKills real kicker]] may be he was capable of human form and speech the [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot entire time]], but only uses those to mess with humans.

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** The [[PoorCommunicationKills real kicker]] may be he was capable of human form and speech the [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot entire time]], time, but only uses those to mess with humans.
17th Feb '16 2:50:54 PM Ohio9
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* CampfireCharacterExploration: Cecil and Tellah reflect on what they have been through and plan their next move around a campfire while in a cave on their way to Damcyan.
30th Jan '16 12:49:20 PM EBsessed
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** As explained in other tropes, Rubicante is a sort of NobleDemon. He fights you with your whole strength (healing the party before the fight every time), spares Edge life once, tries to explain Edge how one should fight, apologies for the bad deeds of his subordinates and doesn't try to kill once he knows he has lost which the other bosses often do.

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** As explained in other tropes, Rubicante is a sort of NobleDemon. He fights you with your whole strength (healing the party before the fight every time), spares Edge life once, tries to explain to Edge how one should fight, apologies apologizes for the bad deeds of his subordinates subordinates, and doesn't try to kill the party once he knows he has lost lost, which the other bosses often do.
30th Jan '16 12:44:16 PM EBsessed
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* ThePowerOfLove: Several moments, such as Edward defeating the Sahagin and Kain [[spoiler:defeating Zemus's last attempt at mind control]] come from their love for a certain person. In addition, giving Twincast to [[OfficialCouple Cecil and Rosa]] yields Ultima, strongest attack in the entire game bar ''none''.

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* ThePowerOfLove: Several moments, such as Edward defeating the Sahagin and Kain [[spoiler:defeating Zemus's last attempt at mind control]] come from their love for a certain person. In addition, giving Twincast to [[OfficialCouple Cecil and Rosa]] in the DS version yields Ultima, the strongest attack in the entire game bar ''none''.
30th Jan '16 12:39:25 PM EBsessed
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** The second time he comes back, Edge actually defies the trope by calling him out on it, asking Kain what he expects them to do if he gets brainwashed again. Kain's response is succinct: [[IDieFree Kill him.]][[note]]In the DS version, he actually almost succumbs a ''third time'', during the final dungeon, and only barely manages to hang on when Zemus goes to far and tries to make him think that killing Rosa would be a good idea, if his thought bubbles are any indication.[[/note]]

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** The second time he comes back, Edge actually defies the trope by calling him out on it, asking Kain what he expects them to do if he gets brainwashed again. Kain's response is succinct: [[IDieFree Kill him.]][[note]]In the DS version, he actually almost succumbs a ''third time'', during the final dungeon, and only barely manages to hang on when Zemus goes to too far and tries to make him think that killing Rosa would be a good idea, if his thought bubbles are any indication.[[/note]]
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