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28th Nov '17 12:47:00 PM lalalei2001
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* ArtificialStupidity: Well, it's a ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' game, so par for the course, really. The simpler gameplay makes it better than some, but the A.I. seems to have a large number of blind spots. In particular, permanent counter cards Mirror Wall and Goblin Fan will be completely ignored by CPU opponents, which frequently leads to them killing themselves, and the game's A.I. tends to ignore monsters that are far from the frontline, even if they have dangerous field-wide effects, such as Great Moth or Binding Chain. It also has a curious aversion to Insect Imitation, and will never use it.

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* ArtificialStupidity: Well, it's a ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' game, so par for the course, really. The simpler gameplay makes it better than some, but the A.I. seems to have a large number of blind spots. In particular, permanent counter cards Mirror Wall and Goblin Fan will be completely ignored by CPU opponents, which frequently leads to them killing themselves, and the game's A.I. tends to ignore monsters that are far from the frontline, even if they have dangerous field-wide effects, such as Great Moth or Binding Chain. It The AI also has a curious aversion to Insect Imitation, and will never use it.



** Any card with anything vaguely resembling a gun gets censored, usually by changing its colors to green and pink. In a baffling case of this, most of them aren't even realistic guns to begin with, such as Barrel Rock's shoulder cannons or Cyber Commander's missile launcher. Also, just like [[TabletopGame/YuGiOh the real game]] and [[Anime/YuGiOh anime]], Barrel Dragon had its revolvers turned into laser cannons... but its attack animation is still what is unmistakably RussianRoulette. It's particularly strange when compared to the Immortals, which have some fairly grotesque imagery fully intact.
* BraggingRightsReward: Completing both sides of the game's storyline lets you duel all opponents on one save file... but you've beaten the game, so why bother?

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** Any card with anything vaguely resembling a gun gets censored, usually by changing its colors to green and pink. In a baffling case of this, most Most of them aren't even realistic guns to begin with, such as Barrel Rock's shoulder cannons or Cyber Commander's missile launcher. Also, just like [[TabletopGame/YuGiOh the real game]] and [[Anime/YuGiOh anime]], Barrel Dragon had its revolvers turned into laser cannons... but its attack animation is still what is unmistakably RussianRoulette. It's particularly strange when compared to the Immortals, which have some fairly grotesque imagery fully intact.
* BraggingRightsReward: Completing both sides of the game's storyline lets you duel all opponents on one save file... but you've beaten the game, game and dialogue doesn't appear, so why bother?there's no point.



** When [[spoiler:Manawyddan fab Llyr is unsealed in the Yorkists' campaign, he heavily implies that he's the brother of [[VideoGame/YuGiOhForbiddenMemories DarkNite/Nitemare]]. [[ItsPersonal And he's plenty unhappy about what happened to that guy.]]]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Manawyddan fab Llyr:''' "First you humans awakened my brother from the sands of Egypt and sealed him away again!"]]

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** When [[spoiler:Manawyddan [[spoiler:When Manawyddan fab Llyr Llyr]] is unsealed in the Yorkists' campaign, he heavily implies that he's the brother of [[VideoGame/YuGiOhForbiddenMemories DarkNite/Nitemare]]. [[ItsPersonal And he's plenty unhappy about what happened to that guy.]]]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Manawyddan
]]
--->'''[[spoiler:Manawyddan
fab Llyr:''' "First Llyr]]:''' First you humans awakened my brother from the sands of Egypt and sealed him away again!"]]again!



** DragonTheirFeet: Justified as he's also a...
** DragonWithAnAgenda: [[spoiler:His only interest in gathering the Rose Cards to perform the Great Summoning. If you're fighting for the Lancastrians, this additionally means unsealing Manawydan fab Llyr--intentionally.]]
* DubInducedPlotHole: In the OCG, there's an Insect-type support card named "Hatching." In this game, its effect was changed to be based around turning "egg" monsters, such as Ryu-Ran and Wing Egg Elf, into new monsters. In the TCG, the card's name was changed to "Insect Imitation," which this game followed suit on... despite the fact that its version has nothing whatsoever to do with insects or imitation.

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** * DragonTheirFeet: Justified as he's also a...
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Seto has little interest in winning the war and escapes once Yugi is crowned king.
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DragonWithAnAgenda: [[spoiler:His [[spoiler:Seto's only interest in gathering the Rose Cards to perform the Great Summoning. If you're fighting for the Lancastrians, this additionally means unsealing Manawydan fab Llyr--intentionally.]]
* DubInducedPlotHole: In the OCG, there's an Insect-type support card named "Hatching." In this game, its effect was changed to be based around turning "egg" monsters, such as Ryu-Ran and Wing Egg Elf, into new monsters. In the TCG, the card's name was changed to "Insect Imitation," which this game followed suit on... despite the fact that its this version has nothing whatsoever to do with insects or imitation.
31st Aug '17 8:09:59 PM Raptorslash
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** Rex Raptor appears in the game, along with his dinosaur cards. Dinosaurs were not identified and named as such until the mid-19th century.
15th Aug '17 11:12:31 AM lalalei2001
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* BossGame: Just like it's predecessor, this is what the entire game basically is.

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* BossGame: Just like it's its predecessor, this is what the entire game basically is.
15th Aug '17 6:20:36 AM GreatDane112
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* BossGame: Just like it's predecessor, this is what the entire game basically is.


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** Yugi is an interesting example, he actually does put a focus on Spellcasters and Warriors, but the field surrounding him is filled with seemingly random terrain that does more harm to him than good and can result in him having no real strong point aside from his naturally strong monsters.
14th Aug '17 11:04:17 PM lalalei2001
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''Yu-Gi-Oh! The Duelistw of the Roses'' is a ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' video game for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation2. It is a sequel to ''VideoGame/YuGiOhForbiddenMemories'' and a prequel to ''VideoGame/YuGiOhTheFalseboundKingdom''.

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''Yu-Gi-Oh! The Duelistw Duelists of the Roses'' is a ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' video game for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation2. It is a sequel to ''VideoGame/YuGiOhForbiddenMemories'' and a prequel to ''VideoGame/YuGiOhTheFalseboundKingdom''.
14th Aug '17 10:35:35 PM X2X
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''Yu-Gi-Oh! The Duelist of the Roses'' is a ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' video game for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation2. It is a sequel to ''VideoGame/YuGiOhForbiddenMemories'' and a prequel to ''VideoGame/YuGiOhTheFalseboundKingdom''.

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''Yu-Gi-Oh! The Duelist Duelistw of the Roses'' is a ''Franchise/YuGiOh'' video game for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation2. It is a sequel to ''VideoGame/YuGiOhForbiddenMemories'' and a prequel to ''VideoGame/YuGiOhTheFalseboundKingdom''.



* AdaptationalVillainy: Due to limited screen time, Henry Tudor (Yugi) comes off as much more of a jerk, especially in the Lancastrian ending where [[spoiler: he takes the credit for the player character's accomplishments once they head back to their own era.]] Subverted if you're on Seto's team, as he's a GracefulLoser who nonetheless vows to win the war.

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* AdaptationalVillainy: Due to limited screen time, Henry Tudor (Yugi) comes off as much more of a jerk, especially in the Lancastrian ending where [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he takes the credit for the player character's accomplishments once they head back to their own era.]] era]]. Subverted if you're on Seto's team, as he's a GracefulLoser who nonetheless vows to win the war.



* ArtificialStupidity: Well, it's a ''Yu-Gi-Oh'' game, so par for the course, really. The simpler gameplay makes it better than some, but the AI seems to have a large number of blind spots. In particular, permanent counter cards Mirror Wall and Goblin Fan will be completely ignored, which frequently leads to it killing itself, and it tends to ignore monsters that are far from the frontline, even if they have dangerous field-wide effects, such as Great Moth or Binding Chain. It also has a curious aversion to Insect Imitation, and will never use it.

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* ArtificialStupidity: Well, it's a ''Yu-Gi-Oh'' ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' game, so par for the course, really. The simpler gameplay makes it better than some, but the AI A.I. seems to have a large number of blind spots. In particular, permanent counter cards Mirror Wall and Goblin Fan will be completely ignored, ignored by CPU opponents, which frequently leads to it them killing itself, themselves, and it the game's A.I. tends to ignore monsters that are far from the frontline, even if they have dangerous field-wide effects, such as Great Moth or Binding Chain. It also has a curious aversion to Insect Imitation, and will never use it.



* BigBad: [[UsefulNotes/RichardIII Richard Slysheen of York]].
* {{Bowdlerise}}: In the Japanese version, Slysheen's corpse is seen instead of just his crown, and more corpses are shown as Yugi is being crowned king. They're cropped out in other versions.
** Any card with anything vaguely resembling a gun gets censored, usually by changing its colors to green and pink. In a baffling case of this, most of them aren't even realistic guns to begin with, such as Barrel Rock's shoulder cannons or Cyber Commander's missile launcher. Also, just like the real game and anime, Barrel Dragon had its revolvers turned into laser cannons... but its attack animation is still what is unmistakably RussianRoulette. It's particularly strange when compared to the Immortals, which have some fairly grotesque imagery fully intact.

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* BigBad: [[UsefulNotes/RichardIII Richard Slysheen of York]].
York]]. Richard's HistoricalVillainUpgrade treatment is played up a bit more than usual here, his role assumed by the utterly vile [[VideoGame/YuGiOhForbiddenMemories Hei]][[VideoGame/YuGiOhDarkDuelStories shin]].
* {{Bowdlerise}}: {{Bowdlerise}}:
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In the Japanese version, Slysheen's corpse is seen instead of just his crown, and more corpses are shown as Yugi is being crowned king. They're cropped out in other versions.
** Any card with anything vaguely resembling a gun gets censored, usually by changing its colors to green and pink. In a baffling case of this, most of them aren't even realistic guns to begin with, such as Barrel Rock's shoulder cannons or Cyber Commander's missile launcher. Also, just like [[TabletopGame/YuGiOh the real game game]] and anime, [[Anime/YuGiOh anime]], Barrel Dragon had its revolvers turned into laser cannons... but its attack animation is still what is unmistakably RussianRoulette. It's particularly strange when compared to the Immortals, which have some fairly grotesque imagery fully intact.



* ContinuityNod: When [[spoiler:Manawyddan fab Llyr is unsealed in the Yorkists' campaign, he heavily implies that he's the brother of [[VideoGame/YuGiOhForbiddenMemories DarkNite/Nitemare]]. And he's plenty unhappy about what happened to that guy.]]
-->[[spoiler:'''Manawyddan fab Llyr:''' "First you humans awakened my brother from the sands of Egypt and sealed him away again!"]]

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* ContinuityNod: ContinuityNod:
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When [[spoiler:Manawyddan fab Llyr is unsealed in the Yorkists' campaign, he heavily implies that he's the brother of [[VideoGame/YuGiOhForbiddenMemories DarkNite/Nitemare]]. [[ItsPersonal And he's plenty unhappy about what happened to that guy.]]
-->[[spoiler:'''Manawyddan
]]]]
--->[[spoiler:'''Manawyddan
fab Llyr:''' "First you humans awakened my brother from the sands of Egypt and sealed him away again!"]]



* DubInducedPlotHole: In the OCG, there's an Insect-type support card named "Hatching." In this game, its effect was changed to be based around turning "egg" monsters, such as Ryu-Ran and Wing Egg Elf, into new monsters. In the TCG, the card's name was changed to "Insect Imitation", which this game followed suit on... despite the fact that its version has nothing whatsoever to do with insects or imitation.
* EarlyBirdBoss: Rex Raptor is fought on the Wasteland terrain, which increases his monsters' strength by 500 points. At this point in the game, the only other opponent you'd be able to defeat would be Weevil, whose forest creatures are weakened by Wasteland terrain. If you start with Fairy King Truesdale, whose deck is almost all insects and plants, your only hope is judicious use of the Forest Magic Card and Acid Trap Hole. On later tries Rex isn't nearly as bad when you have more variety in monsters.

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* DubInducedPlotHole: In the OCG, there's an Insect-type support card named "Hatching." In this game, its effect was changed to be based around turning "egg" monsters, such as Ryu-Ran and Wing Egg Elf, into new monsters. In the TCG, the card's name was changed to "Insect Imitation", Imitation," which this game followed suit on... despite the fact that its version has nothing whatsoever to do with insects or imitation.
* EarlyBirdBoss: EarlyBirdBoss:
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Rex Raptor is fought on the Wasteland terrain, which increases his monsters' strength by 500 points. At this point in the game, the only other opponent you'd be able to defeat would be Weevil, whose forest creatures are weakened by Wasteland terrain. If you start with Fairy King Truesdale, whose deck is almost all insects and plants, your only hope is judicious use of the Forest Magic Card and Acid Trap Hole. On later tries Rex isn't nearly as bad when you have more variety in monsters.



* EarlyBirdCameo: A number of cards showed up here first before they made their way to the card game proper. These include all the starting Deck Leaders, all the Immortals, Kinetic Soldier, Arsenal Bug, Woodland Sprite, and Creature Swap. The artwork of After The Struggle shows up in the Japanese version, as well.

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* EarlyBirdCameo: A number of cards showed up here first before they made their way to the card game proper. These include all the starting Deck Leaders, all the Immortals, Kinetic Soldier, Arsenal Bug, Woodland Sprite, and Creature Swap. The artwork of After The the Struggle shows up in the Japanese version, as well.



* JokeCharacter: T. Tristan Grey. The strongest monster he can easily summon is the 2000-ATK Patrician of Darkness (his strongest is Chakra, but he will never, ever get it out), he has all of two Spells, which have random effects, and his monsters are a jumble with no unifying type or strategy and weak abilities. His AI's strategy ([[ArtificialStupidity when it remembers it]]) is to move cards into rows where they have bonuses and then patrol sideways along it, but this spreads him thin and takes way too long to set up. And to top it off, most of his monsters have "balanced" stats, meaning they cost way more than they should. This makes his Deck Cost one of the highest in the game, on par with the endgame opponents, meaning you can play all your strongest cards against him.

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* JokeCharacter: T. Tristan Grey. The strongest monster he can easily summon is the 2000-ATK Patrician of Darkness (his strongest is Chakra, but he will never, ever get it out), he has all of two Spells, which have random effects, and his monsters are a jumble with no unifying type or strategy and weak abilities. His AI's A.I.'s strategy ([[ArtificialStupidity when it remembers it]]) is to move cards into rows where they have bonuses and then patrol sideways along it, but this spreads him thin and takes way too long to set up. And to top it off, most of his monsters have "balanced" stats, meaning they cost way more than they should. This makes his Deck Cost one of the highest in the game, on par with the endgame opponents, meaning you can play all your strongest cards against him.



** The usage of real historical names, mostly in proper context (Tea taking the place of Henry Tudor's wife Elizabeth of York), show that someone on the development team had a history textbook handy. For instance, Pegasus [[spoiler:betrays Richard to aid Yugi when he attacks England, and Thomas Stanley was a secret supporter of Henry Tudor and his treachery to Richard was discovered during the Battle of Bosworth Field]].

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** The usage of real historical names, mostly in proper context (Tea taking the place of Henry Tudor's wife Elizabeth of York), show that someone on the development team had a history textbook handy. For instance, Pegasus [[spoiler:betrays Richard to aid Yugi when he attacks England, and Thomas Stanley was a secret supporter of Henry Tudor and his whose treachery to Richard was discovered during the Battle of Bosworth Field]].



* SurpriseCreepy: A lot of the Immortals have the sort of character designs that make you wonder how they ever passed muster in a game that censored cannons. Rigras Leever's VaginaDentata face, Jowls of Dark Demise's rotting dragon head that turns out to be carrying the [[Film/TheThing1982 Thing]], Timeater's [[EyeScream nails sticking from its eyes]]...

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* SurpriseCreepy: A lot of the Immortals have the sort of character designs that make you wonder how they ever passed muster in a game that censored cannons. Rigras Leever's VaginaDentata face, Jowls of Dark Demise's rotting dragon head that turns out to be carrying the [[Film/TheThing1982 the Thing]], Timeater's [[EyeScream nails sticking from its eyes]]...
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* EarlyGameHell: Both sides the player goes down will lead to them struggling desperately to defeat the first few opponents, with progression becoming much smoother around the time Mai on the Yorkist side and Keith on the Lancastrian side are defeated.
4th Aug '17 1:52:23 PM MBG
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* EarlyBirdCameo: A number of cards showed up here first before they made their way to the card game proper. These include all the starting Deck Leaders, all the Immortals, Kinetic Soldier, Woodland Sprite, and Creature Swap. The artwork of After The Struggle shows up in the Japanese version, as well.

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* EarlyBirdCameo: A number of cards showed up here first before they made their way to the card game proper. These include all the starting Deck Leaders, all the Immortals, Kinetic Soldier, Arsenal Bug, Woodland Sprite, and Creature Swap. The artwork of After The Struggle shows up in the Japanese version, as well.
4th Aug '17 1:22:13 PM MBG
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* EarlyBirdCameo: A number of cards showed up here first before they made their way to the card game proper. These include all the starting Deck Leaders, all the Immortals, Kinetic Soldier, Woodland Sprite, and Creature Swap.

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* EarlyBirdCameo: A number of cards showed up here first before they made their way to the card game proper. These include all the starting Deck Leaders, all the Immortals, Kinetic Soldier, Woodland Sprite, and Creature Swap. The artwork of After The Struggle shows up in the Japanese version, as well.


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* SurpriseCreepy: A lot of the Immortals have the sort of character designs that make you wonder how they ever passed muster in a game that censored cannons. Rigras Leever's VaginaDentata face, Jowls of Dark Demise's rotting dragon head that turns out to be carrying the [[Film/TheThing1982 Thing]], Timeater's [[EyeScream nails sticking from its eyes]]...
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