History VideoGame / SeikenDensetsu3

10th Nov '17 10:35:50 AM DustSnitch
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** Lise is a BadassPrincess, but she's not a OneManArmy. When raiders invade her kingdom, kill her people and kidnap her brother, she has to run in order to find help. She also never gets a chance to go on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge, instead having to find ways to stop the plans of the BigBad while putting her kingdom's reconstruction on hold.

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** Lise is a BadassPrincess, badass, but she's not a OneManArmy. When raiders invade her kingdom, kill her people and kidnap her brother, she has to run in order to find help. She also never gets a chance to go on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge, instead having to find ways to stop the plans of the BigBad while putting her kingdom's reconstruction on hold.
3rd Nov '17 7:29:32 PM Malady
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** The Dark Lord was feared and hated as a child, which hints that he had been prophesied as a harbinger of doom. His status as something to be feared invited demons from the underworld to tempt him over to [[TheDarkSide their side]], thus dooming his kingdom ([[spoiler:revealed to be Lorimar in DawnOfMana]]), which the Dark Lord promptly destroyed.
** [[spoiler:Turns out in DawnOfMana that he was feared and hated for trying to drown his little brother, for eliminating all rivals to declare himself emperor and king of Lorimar, and for being an absolute tyrant. His deal with the demons was actually to open the door to Mavolia/the underworld and his Archdemon form is the result of merging with ''multiple'' Thanatos masks. His killing of the previous ruler of the underworld Medusa/Anise is also revealed to be from striking her host down with the first Mana Sword (it's also revealed that she secretly survived unbeknownst to the Dark Lord).]]

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** The Dark Lord was feared and hated as a child, which hints that he had been prophesied as a harbinger of doom. His status as something to be feared invited demons from the underworld to tempt him over to [[TheDarkSide their side]], thus dooming his kingdom ([[spoiler:revealed to be Lorimar in DawnOfMana]]), VideoGame/DawnOfMana]]), which the Dark Lord promptly destroyed.
** [[spoiler:Turns out in DawnOfMana VideoGame/DawnOfMana that he was feared and hated for trying to drown his little brother, for eliminating all rivals to declare himself emperor and king of Lorimar, and for being an absolute tyrant. His deal with the demons was actually to open the door to Mavolia/the underworld and his Archdemon form is the result of merging with ''multiple'' Thanatos masks. His killing of the previous ruler of the underworld Medusa/Anise is also revealed to be from striking her host down with the first Mana Sword (it's also revealed that she secretly survived unbeknownst to the Dark Lord).]]
25th Oct '17 4:59:54 AM KingLyger
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** Angela's prologue has her thrown into the aptly named Sub Zero Snowfield wearing nothing but a highly {{Stripperiffic}} leotard. Less than ten minutes later, she starts coming down with hypothermia.

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** Angela's prologue has her thrown into the aptly named Sub Zero Sub-Zero Snowfield wearing nothing but a highly {{Stripperiffic}} leotard. Less than ten minutes later, she starts coming down with hypothermia.



** Hawkeye is a thief in a gang of them. Once Hawkeye decides he no longer wants to be part of the gang because of their growing corruption, they don't graciously let him leave; [[ResignationsNotAccepted they try to have him killed]]. It didn't help that he was framed in the murder of one of their own. When he returns to the gang as a hero trying to stop the end of the world, only two of Hawkeye's former gang members side with him; the rest are all {{Mook}}s who have to be cut down.
** Kevin can transform into a werewolf and kick major amounts of ass, [[InvoluntaryShapeshifting but he can't control it]]. The first time he transforms, Kevin kills his beloved pet Carl ([[spoiler:or so he thinks]]), and spends the rest of the game [[CursedWithAwesome hating his power]].

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** Hawkeye is a thief in a gang of them. Once Hawkeye decides he no longer wants to be part of the gang his band of thieves because of their growing corruption, they don't graciously let him leave; [[ResignationsNotAccepted they try to have him killed]]. It didn't help that he was framed in the murder of one of their own. When he returns to the gang as a hero trying to stop the end of the world, only two of Hawkeye's former gang members side with him; the rest are all {{Mook}}s who have to be cut down.
** Kevin can transform into a werewolf and kick major amounts of ass, [[InvoluntaryShapeshifting but he can't control it]]. The first time he transforms, Kevin kills his beloved pet Carl ([[spoiler:or so he thinks]]), thinks, as it's just an illusion created by Deathjester]]), and spends the rest of the game [[CursedWithAwesome hating his power]].



* ShiftingSandLand: Nevarl and the Dragon Hole's outer reaches (Glass Desert is the ''coolest'' name for a desert, hands down).

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* ShiftingSandLand: Nevarl and the Dragon Hole's outer reaches (Glass Desert is the ''coolest'' name for a desert, hands down).reaches.



* SmugSnake: Deathjester. Good Lord, ''Deathjester''.

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* %%* SmugSnake: Deathjester. Good Lord, ''Deathjester''.



* StationaryBoss:
** Quite a few.
** Averted with the Dragon Emperor, a screen-filling FinalBoss who defies expectation by leaping into the foreground.

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* StationaryBoss:
** Quite a few.
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StationaryBoss: Averted with the Dragon Emperor, a screen-filling FinalBoss who defies expectation by leaping into the foreground.
17th Oct '17 7:52:54 PM RainbowPhoenix
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** Both Kevin and Charlotte are HalfHumanHybrids whose genetics give them significant abilities, but also cause a fair share of problems. Both of them have some sort of brain deficiency as a result of being a mix of two species, with Kevin talking in HulkSpeak and Charlotte still having the mindset of a small child despite being physically sixteen.

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** Both Kevin and Charlotte are HalfHumanHybrids whose genetics give them significant abilities, but also cause a fair share of problems. Both of them have some sort of brain deficiency as a result of being a mix of two species, with Kevin talking in HulkSpeak and Charlotte still having both the body and mindset of a small child despite being physically sixteen.chronologically fifteen.
28th Sep '17 4:35:31 PM HeroicJay
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** ??? seeds sprout into Ultimate weapons and armour that are usable by Lv. 3 classes. The problem is, the game doesn't factor in which classes you've chosen, only the characters in your party. It's frustrating to pick a Light-Dark path, plant a seed and get rewarded with Light-Light pieces you can't use. SaveScumming mitigates this a bit, but it shouldn't be coded that way to start with.
13th Aug '17 2:04:53 PM Zuxtron
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* SchrodingersGun: Whoever you selected as the main character is going to be the one that ends up hosting the Faerie. Whoever you selected as the second character is going to join you outside the Cave of Waterfalls, and whoever you selected as the third will join you after [[spoiler:they bust you out of the Beastman-occupied Jadd's dungeons]]. Selecting Charlotte as your second or third character kinda throws that off (if chosen and not the hero, she ''always'' joins you somewhere between where the other second and third choices join), but [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything the dev team thought of that]]: [[spoiler:If Charlotte's on your team and thus you already have three characters by the time you get locked up in Jadd, the person in the other cell who busts you out will be a fourth hero who never joins your team (if Duran's not on your team, it'll usually be him), and your party leaves the person behind when they escape on the ship, but fortunately the person is able to escape the city off-screen.]]

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* SchrodingersGun: Whoever you selected as the main character is going to be the one that ends up hosting the Faerie. Whoever you selected as the second character is going to join you outside the Cave of Waterfalls, and whoever you selected as the third will join you after [[spoiler:they bust you out of the Beastman-occupied Jadd's dungeons]]. Selecting Charlotte as your second or third character kinda throws that off (if chosen and not the hero, she ''always'' joins you somewhere between where the other second and third choices join), but [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything [[DevelopersForesight the dev team thought of that]]: [[spoiler:If Charlotte's on your team and thus you already have three characters by the time you get locked up in Jadd, the person in the other cell who busts you out will be a fourth hero who never joins your team (if Duran's not on your team, it'll usually be him), and your party leaves the person behind when they escape on the ship, but fortunately the person is able to escape the city off-screen.]]
2nd Aug '17 11:41:37 AM dotchan
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* NoticeThis: In combat ready mode, all playable characters turn to face their foes no matter how they move.
11th Jun '17 12:00:10 PM IKEZE-KISAMA
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* DarkIsNotEvil: You can use darkness element spells and weapons, and the darkness summon spirit Shade is not evil, though [[EldritchAbomination Zable Fahr God-Beast]] is ThatOneBoss for some people. Your characters' class alignment can become dark (or dark-dark), which is just a fancier way to say that the classes are more offensive based and enfeebling in their specialties. Even their descriptions are up to the player. For example, the Nightblade: a ruthless remorseless coldblooded murdererr who revels in the act of stealing lives, or an assassin who preys upon the villainous, corrupted, and nonredeemable in the dark? The Death Hand: a brutal, tasteless savage who turns to internal turmoil for the sake of limitless power, or a wielder of a well kept secret martial art that makes use of unorthodox but effective means to swiftly ensure quick and painless death on opponents? You decide.

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* DarkIsNotEvil: You can use darkness element spells and weapons, and the darkness summon spirit Shade is not evil, though [[EldritchAbomination Zable Fahr God-Beast]] is ThatOneBoss for some people. Your characters' class alignment can become dark (or dark-dark), which is just a fancier way to say that the classes are more offensive based and enfeebling in their specialties. Even their descriptions are up to the player. For example, the Nightblade: a ruthless remorseless coldblooded murdererr murderer who revels in the act of stealing lives, or an assassin who preys upon the villainous, corrupted, and nonredeemable in the dark? The Death Hand: a brutal, tasteless savage who turns to internal turmoil for the sake of limitless power, or a wielder of a well kept secret martial art that makes use of unorthodox but effective means to swiftly ensure quick and painless death on opponents? You decide.


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* DarkerAndEdgier: Even for a series whose theme is all about a cute and charming fairy tale aesthetic meshed with very stark and mature story elements, Seiken Densetsu 3 was and is the only installment that marked where the mature elements were at their highest. Human sacrifice? The want of those of the underworld wishing to take over the world of the living? Warfare that veers on near genocide? This isn't even including equipment and spells described in overseas guide books and official materials. A suit of armor made from the bones of demons feared to bite into its user's flesh and turn them into bloodthirsty murderers? A mask reminiscent of serial killers meant to scare and unleash the killing instinct? A skull themed glove with pointy finger claws meant to rip and tear at the head of the opponent? A spear made for obscene amounts of collateral damage and to remind people of the threat of violent giants that once terrorized the world in the past? It's there.
11th Jun '17 11:49:07 AM IKEZE-KISAMA
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* DarkIsNotEvil: You can use darkness element spells and weapons, and the darkness summon spirit Shade is not evil, though [[EldritchAbomination Zable Fahr God-Beast]] is ThatOneBoss for some people. Your characters' class alignment can become dark (or dark-dark).

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* DarkIsNotEvil: You can use darkness element spells and weapons, and the darkness summon spirit Shade is not evil, though [[EldritchAbomination Zable Fahr God-Beast]] is ThatOneBoss for some people. Your characters' class alignment can become dark (or dark-dark).dark-dark), which is just a fancier way to say that the classes are more offensive based and enfeebling in their specialties. Even their descriptions are up to the player. For example, the Nightblade: a ruthless remorseless coldblooded murdererr who revels in the act of stealing lives, or an assassin who preys upon the villainous, corrupted, and nonredeemable in the dark? The Death Hand: a brutal, tasteless savage who turns to internal turmoil for the sake of limitless power, or a wielder of a well kept secret martial art that makes use of unorthodox but effective means to swiftly ensure quick and painless death on opponents? You decide.
21st Feb '17 10:02:26 PM Arutema
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* TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything:

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* TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: DevelopersForesight:
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