History VideoGame / SeikenDensetsu3

15th Apr '16 3:51:01 PM Delphi
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* MonstrosityEqualsWeakness: Despite the large number of huge, monstrous bosses in the game, by far the hardest fights are against the human-sized villains.
13th Apr '16 6:20:37 PM AnotherDuck
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** BigFancyCastle: Almost too many to list.
*** Each of the villains resides in one. Even Drakonis has a throne room built into the fixtures of his caves.
*** Let's be blunt: Most of the "good guy" castles (Altena, Valsena, Ferolia, Nevarl, and to a lesser extent Laurent) are a pain in the ass to negotiate in the ''tutorial'', let alone once they fill up with enemies: {{Empty Room Psych}}s, staircases to nowhere, and a forked road to the boss that has a one-in-two chance of bypassing the healing statues entirely. Your lead character is given the opportunity to map out their home base in the prologue; you should take it.

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** * BigFancyCastle: Almost too many to list.
*** ** Each of the villains resides in one. Even Drakonis has a throne room built into the fixtures of his caves.
*** ** Let's be blunt: Most of the "good guy" castles (Altena, Valsena, Ferolia, Nevarl, and to a lesser extent Laurent) are a pain in the ass to negotiate in the ''tutorial'', let alone once they fill up with enemies: {{Empty Room Psych}}s, staircases to nowhere, and a forked road to the boss that has a one-in-two chance of bypassing the healing statues entirely. Your lead character is given the opportunity to map out their home base in the prologue; you should take it.
10th Apr '16 11:38:09 AM KingLyger
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** Angela's first trek through the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Sub-Zero Snowfield]] goes about as well as you'd expect.
** Bonus epic LampshadeHanging, that.

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** Angela's prologue has her thrown into the aptly named Sub Zero Snowfield wearing nothing but a highly {{Stripperiffic}} leotard. Less than ten minutes later, she starts coming down with hypothermia.
** In contrast to the LovableRogue type of mercenary, Duran is loud, brutish, uncouth, and smells bad. Also, the
first trek through the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Sub-Zero Snowfield]] time Duran goes about up against the Red Wizard, he gets curbstomped, because Duran's never faced anyone who uses magic before.
** Hawk is a thief in a gang of them. Once Hawk decides he no longer wants to be part of the gang because of their growing corruption, they don't graciously let him leave; [[ResignationsNotAccepted they try to have him killed]]. It didn't help that he was framed in the murder of one of their own. When he returns to the gang
as well a hero trying to stop the end of the world, only two of Hawk's former gang members side with him; the rest are all {{Mook}}s who have to be cut down.
** Kevin can transform into a werewolf and kick major amounts of ass, [[InvoluntaryShapeshifting but he can't control it]]. The first time he transforms, Kevin kills his beloved pet Carl ([[spoiler:or so he thinks]]), and spends the rest of the game [[CursedWithAwesome hating his power]].
** Both Kevin and Carlie are HalfHumanHybrids whose genetics give them significant abilities, but also cause a fair share of problems. Both of them have some sort of brain deficiency
as you'd expect.
a result of being a mix of two species, with Kevin talking in HulkSpeak and Carlie still having the mindset of a small child despite being physically sixteen.
** Bonus epic LampshadeHanging, that.Lise is a BadassPrincess, but she's not a OneManArmy. When raiders invade her kingdom, kill her people and kidnap her brother, she has to run in order to find help. She also never gets a chance to go on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge, instead having to find ways to stop the plans of the BigBad while putting her kingdom's reconstruction on hold.
2nd Apr '16 9:13:36 PM speyeker
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** CaveBehindTheFalls[=/=]NoobCave: The Cave of Waterfalls.

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** * CaveBehindTheFalls[=/=]NoobCave: The Cave of Waterfalls.
20th Mar '16 4:22:15 PM MrUnderhill
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** Purim and Popie? Angela and Carlie fit the bill. Interestingly you can complete this game with ever having recruited a mage or healer. Magic isn't as devastating as it used to be, and you can scrape by with healing items, but the latter makes boss fights a lot tougher.

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** Purim If you liked the party from ''VideoGame/SecretOfMana'', Duran, Carlie, and Popie? Angela make good replacements for Randi, Purim, and Carlie fit the bill.Popoie, respectively (though unlike Randi, Duran can learn his own magic). Interestingly you can complete this game with ever having recruited a mage or healer. Magic isn't as devastating as it used to be, and you can scrape by with healing items, but the latter makes boss fights a lot tougher.
8th Mar '16 9:25:56 PM DrRomoray
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[[quoteright:350:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/sd3box.jpg]]The Mana Tree is dying ([[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed again]]), so the Mana Goddess sends her fairies to the world below to find someone worthy of restoring it. [[SoleSurvivor All but one]] perish on route due to the steady loss of magic, and the remaining Fairy settles for the first person it can find. Naturally, that happens to be the first character the player selected. Interestingly, the party leader also determines which of the three {{Big Bad}}s the heroes eventually take on.

'''''Seiken Densetsu 3''''' (聖剣伝説3), released in 1995, is the third game in the ''[[VideoGame/WorldOfMana Mana]]'' series and the first one to [[NoExportForYou never make it Stateside]], though fan translations do exist via [[UsefulNotes/{{Emulation}} emulation]]. It plays very similarly to its predecessor ''VideoGame/SecretOfMana'', the difference being that the percentage meter (which limited the frequency of melee attacks) has been removed. Now the meter builds with each successful hit on the enemy. ''[=SoM=]''[='=]s {{charged attack}}s have also been replaced by {{Limit Break}}s (or "Techs").

In a departure from the norm, ''[=SD3=]'' revolves around six characters of which any three can make up your party. Your heroes start the adventure in a default job, but have opportunities to pursue Light or Dark magicks later on -- sort of a mix between ''VideoGame/The7thSaga'' and the ''VideoGame/{{SaGa}}'' games. Unlike in most [[EasternRPG JRPGs]], there are no takebacks, and the fruits of your labor may not become apparent for a while. These classes add huge replay value to a game already overstuffed with configurations. It's also one of the meaner ''Mana'' entries, ideal for ''[=SoM=]'' veterans but perhaps a tough nut for newbies to crack.

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[[quoteright:350:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/sd3box.jpg]]The Mana Tree is dying ([[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed again]]), so the Mana Goddess sends her fairies to the world below to find someone worthy of restoring it. [[SoleSurvivor All but one]] perish on route due to the steady loss of magic, and the remaining Fairy settles for the first person it can find. Naturally, that happens to be the first character the player selected. Interestingly, the party leader also determines which of the three {{Big Bad}}s the heroes eventually take on.

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'''''Seiken Densetsu 3''''' (聖剣伝説3), released in 1995, is the third game in the ''[[VideoGame/WorldOfMana Mana]]'' series and the first one to [[NoExportForYou never make it Stateside]], though fan translations do exist via [[UsefulNotes/{{Emulation}} emulation]].

The Mana Tree is dying ([[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed again]]), so the Mana Goddess sends her fairies to the world below to find someone worthy of restoring it. [[SoleSurvivor All but one]] perish on route due to the steady loss of magic, and the remaining Fairy settles for the first schmuck it can find. Naturally, that happens to be the initial hero the player selected. Interestingly, the party leader also determines which of the three {{Big Bad}}s the heroes eventually take on.

It plays very similarly to its predecessor ''VideoGame/SecretOfMana'', the big difference being that the percentage meter (which limited the frequency of melee attacks) has been removed. Now the meter builds with each successful hit on the enemy. ''[=SoM=]''[='=]s {{charged attack}}s have also been replaced by {{Limit Break}}s (or "Techs").

"Techs"), greatly speeding up the gameplay.

In a departure from the norm, ''[=SD3=]'' revolves around six characters of which any three can make up your party. Your heroes start the adventure in a default job, but have opportunities to pursue Light or Dark magicks later on -- sort of a mix between ''VideoGame/The7thSaga'' and the ''VideoGame/{{SaGa}}'' games. Unlike in most [[EasternRPG JRPGs]], there are no takebacks, and the fruits of your labor may not become apparent for a while. These The 36 classes add huge replay value to a game already overstuffed with configurations. configurations.

It's also one of the meaner ''Mana'' entries, ideal for ''[=SoM=]'' veterans but perhaps a tough nut for newbies to crack.
8th Mar '16 3:32:26 AM DrRomoray
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* IntrepidMerchant:
** Chiquita and Josephine.
** Given that they're the same race as Neko, expect racketeering and sky-high prices. Oh well, a cat's gotta eat.



** In addition to Shapeshifters (mostly harmless balls of wax that morph into various monsters), you may encounter their UndergroundMonkey equivalent, Shadow Zero. (You mean the hellish copies from ''Secret of Mana''? Yes, the very same.) They'll mimic your class changes along with their special attacks. The problem is that they aren't affected by HealthDamageAsymmetry; their attacks do the same boss-killing damage as yours, to your party's still PC-level hit points. If you have Dark classes in your lineup, and the Zero decides to mimic them, just flee. You can't win.

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** In addition to Shapeshifters (mostly harmless balls of wax that morph into various monsters), you may encounter their UndergroundMonkey equivalent, Shadow Zero. (You mean the hellish copies ones from ''Secret of Mana''? Yes, the very same.) They'll mimic your class changes along with their special attacks. The problem is that they aren't affected by HealthDamageAsymmetry; their attacks do the same boss-killing damage as yours, to your party's still PC-level hit points. If you have Dark classes in your lineup, and the Zero decides to mimic them, just flee. You can't win.



* SuspiciousVideoGameGenerosity: If you are given a gold statue (which saves your game and heals your party), you will need it. It usually means there is a painful boss fight just around the corner.

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* SuspiciousVideoGameGenerosity: SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute:
** Purim and Popie? Angela and Carlie fit the bill. Interestingly you can complete this game with ever having recruited a mage or healer. Magic isn't as devastating as it used to be, and you can scrape by with healing items, but the latter makes boss fights a lot tougher.
** Chiquita and Josephine. Given that they're the same race as Neko, expect racketeering and sky-high prices. Oh well, a cat's gotta eat.
* SuspiciousVideoGameGenerosity:
If you are given a gold statue (which saves your game and heals your party), you will need it. It usually means there is a painful boss fight just around the corner.



** Jenova can be quite difficult for underleveled players as he is a MookMaker, casts some really strong spells, and if one is unlucky the mooks (which happens to be shapeshifters) will morph into something that will constantly Poison the party.

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** Jenova Genova can be quite difficult for underleveled players as he is a MookMaker, casts some really strong spells, and if one is unlucky the mooks (which happens to be shapeshifters) will morph into something that will constantly Poison the party.
7th Mar '16 12:31:32 PM DrRomoray
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'''''Seiken Densetsu 3''''' (聖剣伝説3), released in 1995, is the third game in the ''[[VideoGame/WorldOfMana Mana]]'' series and the first one to [[NoExportForYou never make it Stateside]], though fan translations do exist via [[UsefulNotes/{{Emulation}} emulation]]. It plays very similarly to its predecessor ''VideoGame/SecretOfMana'', but instead of being able to charge attacks, the meter builds with [[LimitBreak each successful hit on the enemy]]. In addition, standard attacks can be done continuously, as ''Secret of Mana''s percentage meter (which limited the speed of repeated standard attacks) has been removed.

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'''''Seiken Densetsu 3''''' (聖剣伝説3), released in 1995, is the third game in the ''[[VideoGame/WorldOfMana Mana]]'' series and the first one to [[NoExportForYou never make it Stateside]], though fan translations do exist via [[UsefulNotes/{{Emulation}} emulation]]. It plays very similarly to its predecessor ''VideoGame/SecretOfMana'', but instead of the difference being able to charge attacks, that the meter builds with [[LimitBreak each successful hit on the enemy]]. In addition, standard attacks can be done continuously, as ''Secret of Mana''s percentage meter (which limited the speed frequency of repeated standard melee attacks) has been removed.
removed. Now the meter builds with each successful hit on the enemy. ''[=SoM=]''[='=]s {{charged attack}}s have also been replaced by {{Limit Break}}s (or "Techs").
1st Feb '16 10:19:31 PM MrUnderhill
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* AccidentalPervert: If, as a male character, you talk to Angela while she's sleeping at the inn in Jad, she'll accuse you of being this. If you play as Lise (the only female who can get into this situation), [[DevelopersForesight she just expresses annoyance at being woken up.]]

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* AccidentalPervert: If, as a male character, you talk to Angela while she's sleeping at the inn in Jad, she'll accuse you of being this. If you play as Lise (the only female who can get into this situation), [[DevelopersForesight she Angela just expresses annoyance at being woken up.]]
1st Feb '16 10:17:28 PM MrUnderhill
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* AccidentalPervert: If, as a male character, you talk to Angela while she's sleeping at the inn in Jad, she'll accuse you of being this. If you play as Lise (the only female who can get into this situation), [[DeveloperForesight she just expresses annoyance at being woken up.]]

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* AccidentalPervert: If, as a male character, you talk to Angela while she's sleeping at the inn in Jad, she'll accuse you of being this. If you play as Lise (the only female who can get into this situation), [[DeveloperForesight [[DevelopersForesight she just expresses annoyance at being woken up.]]
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