History VideoGame / SeikenDensetsu3

26th Jun '16 2:12:07 PM dotchan
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* AnotherSideAnotherStory: Out of six playable characters, you can only choose three to build your party for any given playthrough, and only ''one'' can be the Mana Knight (which grants him or her additional screen time and also determines who the final boss will be). The remaining three become [=NPCs=] who you may or may not cross paths at various points. Thus, every playthrough with a different party combination can become Another Story.\\\
Another thing to consider is each character has a rival who is also the Big Bad's right-hand man. Rivals have an adversarial relationship with at least two main characters (e.g. Deathjester orchestrates the murder of Karl, then makes off with Heath).

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* AnotherSideAnotherStory: AnotherSideAnotherStory:
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Out of six playable characters, you can only choose three to build your party for any given playthrough, and only ''one'' can be the Mana Knight (which grants him or her additional screen time and also determines who the final boss will be). The remaining three become [=NPCs=] who you may or may not cross paths at various points. Thus, every playthrough with a different party combination can become Another Story.\\\
Story.
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Another thing to consider is each character has a rival who is also the Big Bad's right-hand man. Rivals have an adversarial relationship with at least two main characters (e.g. Deathjester orchestrates the murder of Karl, then makes off with Heath).
26th Jun '16 2:03:39 PM dotchan
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* LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards: Averted. Seems to fall into this trope in the early game, where the male characters (and Lise) have to rely solely on their weapons and have to use healing or magic items, while the two spellcasters can make excelent use of their MP. After the first class change, however, everyone begins learning spells and skills of their own.

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* LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards: Averted. Seems to fall into this trope in the early LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards:
** Early
game, where the male physical attackers do tend to be more powerful than the casters (who need a meat shield to tank hits for them while they stand immobile to cast), and pure casters do outdamage pure hitters, but most of the main characters (and Lise) have to rely solely end up being some kind of MagicKnight (depending on their weapons and have to use healing or magic items, while which of the two spellcasters can make excelent use of their MP. After upgraded classes they choose).
** InUniverse, Duran's motivation to get
the first class change, however, everyone begins learning spells and skills of their own.Mana Sword is because the Lotus Sorcerer handily defeated him in a CurbStompBattle.
13th Jun '16 1:23:40 PM morenohijazo
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* PumpkinPerson: Mispolm, God-Beast of the Woods, takes the form of a giant jack-o-lantern sat atop a mass of roots.
31st May '16 12:16:12 PM Morgenthaler
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* BlondGuysAreEvil:
** The Wizard of the Crimson Lotus. The blond werewolf, Lugar, is no boy scout either.
** The Dark Lord takes over a blond boy's body following his resurrection, fulfilling this trope.
15th Apr '16 3:51:01 PM Delphi
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* MonstrosityEqualsWeakness: Despite the large number of huge, monstrous bosses in the game, by far the hardest fights are against the human-sized villains.
13th Apr '16 6:20:37 PM AnotherDuck
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** BigFancyCastle: Almost too many to list.
*** Each of the villains resides in one. Even Drakonis has a throne room built into the fixtures of his caves.
*** Let's be blunt: Most of the "good guy" castles (Altena, Valsena, Ferolia, Nevarl, and to a lesser extent Laurent) are a pain in the ass to negotiate in the ''tutorial'', let alone once they fill up with enemies: {{Empty Room Psych}}s, staircases to nowhere, and a forked road to the boss that has a one-in-two chance of bypassing the healing statues entirely. Your lead character is given the opportunity to map out their home base in the prologue; you should take it.

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** * BigFancyCastle: Almost too many to list.
*** ** Each of the villains resides in one. Even Drakonis has a throne room built into the fixtures of his caves.
*** ** Let's be blunt: Most of the "good guy" castles (Altena, Valsena, Ferolia, Nevarl, and to a lesser extent Laurent) are a pain in the ass to negotiate in the ''tutorial'', let alone once they fill up with enemies: {{Empty Room Psych}}s, staircases to nowhere, and a forked road to the boss that has a one-in-two chance of bypassing the healing statues entirely. Your lead character is given the opportunity to map out their home base in the prologue; you should take it.
10th Apr '16 11:38:09 AM KingLyger
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** Angela's first trek through the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Sub-Zero Snowfield]] goes about as well as you'd expect.
** Bonus epic LampshadeHanging, that.

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** Angela's prologue has her thrown into the aptly named Sub Zero Snowfield wearing nothing but a highly {{Stripperiffic}} leotard. Less than ten minutes later, she starts coming down with hypothermia.
** In contrast to the LovableRogue type of mercenary, Duran is loud, brutish, uncouth, and smells bad. Also, the
first trek through the [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Sub-Zero Snowfield]] time Duran goes about up against the Red Wizard, he gets curbstomped, because Duran's never faced anyone who uses magic before.
** Hawk is a thief in a gang of them. Once Hawk decides he no longer wants to be part of the gang because of their growing corruption, they don't graciously let him leave; [[ResignationsNotAccepted they try to have him killed]]. It didn't help that he was framed in the murder of one of their own. When he returns to the gang
as well a hero trying to stop the end of the world, only two of Hawk's former gang members side with him; the rest are all {{Mook}}s who have to be cut down.
** Kevin can transform into a werewolf and kick major amounts of ass, [[InvoluntaryShapeshifting but he can't control it]]. The first time he transforms, Kevin kills his beloved pet Carl ([[spoiler:or so he thinks]]), and spends the rest of the game [[CursedWithAwesome hating his power]].
** Both Kevin and Carlie are HalfHumanHybrids whose genetics give them significant abilities, but also cause a fair share of problems. Both of them have some sort of brain deficiency
as you'd expect.
a result of being a mix of two species, with Kevin talking in HulkSpeak and Carlie still having the mindset of a small child despite being physically sixteen.
** Bonus epic LampshadeHanging, that.Lise is a BadassPrincess, but she's not a OneManArmy. When raiders invade her kingdom, kill her people and kidnap her brother, she has to run in order to find help. She also never gets a chance to go on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge, instead having to find ways to stop the plans of the BigBad while putting her kingdom's reconstruction on hold.
2nd Apr '16 9:13:36 PM speyeker
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** CaveBehindTheFalls[=/=]NoobCave: The Cave of Waterfalls.

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** * CaveBehindTheFalls[=/=]NoobCave: The Cave of Waterfalls.
20th Mar '16 4:22:15 PM MrUnderhill
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** Purim and Popie? Angela and Carlie fit the bill. Interestingly you can complete this game with ever having recruited a mage or healer. Magic isn't as devastating as it used to be, and you can scrape by with healing items, but the latter makes boss fights a lot tougher.

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** Purim If you liked the party from ''VideoGame/SecretOfMana'', Duran, Carlie, and Popie? Angela make good replacements for Randi, Purim, and Carlie fit the bill.Popoie, respectively (though unlike Randi, Duran can learn his own magic). Interestingly you can complete this game with ever having recruited a mage or healer. Magic isn't as devastating as it used to be, and you can scrape by with healing items, but the latter makes boss fights a lot tougher.
8th Mar '16 9:25:56 PM DrRomoray
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[[quoteright:350:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/sd3box.jpg]]The Mana Tree is dying ([[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed again]]), so the Mana Goddess sends her fairies to the world below to find someone worthy of restoring it. [[SoleSurvivor All but one]] perish on route due to the steady loss of magic, and the remaining Fairy settles for the first person it can find. Naturally, that happens to be the first character the player selected. Interestingly, the party leader also determines which of the three {{Big Bad}}s the heroes eventually take on.

'''''Seiken Densetsu 3''''' (聖剣伝説3), released in 1995, is the third game in the ''[[VideoGame/WorldOfMana Mana]]'' series and the first one to [[NoExportForYou never make it Stateside]], though fan translations do exist via [[UsefulNotes/{{Emulation}} emulation]]. It plays very similarly to its predecessor ''VideoGame/SecretOfMana'', the difference being that the percentage meter (which limited the frequency of melee attacks) has been removed. Now the meter builds with each successful hit on the enemy. ''[=SoM=]''[='=]s {{charged attack}}s have also been replaced by {{Limit Break}}s (or "Techs").

In a departure from the norm, ''[=SD3=]'' revolves around six characters of which any three can make up your party. Your heroes start the adventure in a default job, but have opportunities to pursue Light or Dark magicks later on -- sort of a mix between ''VideoGame/The7thSaga'' and the ''VideoGame/{{SaGa}}'' games. Unlike in most [[EasternRPG JRPGs]], there are no takebacks, and the fruits of your labor may not become apparent for a while. These classes add huge replay value to a game already overstuffed with configurations. It's also one of the meaner ''Mana'' entries, ideal for ''[=SoM=]'' veterans but perhaps a tough nut for newbies to crack.

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[[quoteright:350:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/sd3box.jpg]]The Mana Tree is dying ([[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed again]]), so the Mana Goddess sends her fairies to the world below to find someone worthy of restoring it. [[SoleSurvivor All but one]] perish on route due to the steady loss of magic, and the remaining Fairy settles for the first person it can find. Naturally, that happens to be the first character the player selected. Interestingly, the party leader also determines which of the three {{Big Bad}}s the heroes eventually take on.

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'''''Seiken Densetsu 3''''' (聖剣伝説3), released in 1995, is the third game in the ''[[VideoGame/WorldOfMana Mana]]'' series and the first one to [[NoExportForYou never make it Stateside]], though fan translations do exist via [[UsefulNotes/{{Emulation}} emulation]].

The Mana Tree is dying ([[TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed again]]), so the Mana Goddess sends her fairies to the world below to find someone worthy of restoring it. [[SoleSurvivor All but one]] perish on route due to the steady loss of magic, and the remaining Fairy settles for the first schmuck it can find. Naturally, that happens to be the initial hero the player selected. Interestingly, the party leader also determines which of the three {{Big Bad}}s the heroes eventually take on.

It plays very similarly to its predecessor ''VideoGame/SecretOfMana'', the big difference being that the percentage meter (which limited the frequency of melee attacks) has been removed. Now the meter builds with each successful hit on the enemy. ''[=SoM=]''[='=]s {{charged attack}}s have also been replaced by {{Limit Break}}s (or "Techs").

"Techs"), greatly speeding up the gameplay.

In a departure from the norm, ''[=SD3=]'' revolves around six characters of which any three can make up your party. Your heroes start the adventure in a default job, but have opportunities to pursue Light or Dark magicks later on -- sort of a mix between ''VideoGame/The7thSaga'' and the ''VideoGame/{{SaGa}}'' games. Unlike in most [[EasternRPG JRPGs]], there are no takebacks, and the fruits of your labor may not become apparent for a while. These The 36 classes add huge replay value to a game already overstuffed with configurations. configurations.

It's also one of the meaner ''Mana'' entries, ideal for ''[=SoM=]'' veterans but perhaps a tough nut for newbies to crack.
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