History VideoGame / ProfessorLaytonVSAceAttorney

1st Jul '17 5:46:51 AM Gosicrystal
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* RuinsForRuinsSake / DungeonCrawling: [[spoiler: The underground ruins below the Great Witch's abode.]]

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* RuinsForRuinsSake / DungeonCrawling: RuinsForRuinsSake: [[spoiler: The underground ruins below the Great Witch's abode.]]



** Maya makes {{callback}}s to the ladder/step-ladder arguments in all the AA games.

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** Maya makes {{callback}}s {{Continuity Nod}}s to the ladder/step-ladder arguments in all the AA games.



* SequelDifficultySpike:
** A weird case. The Phoenix portions of the game are considerably harder than ''Dual Destinies'', which was released earlier outside Japan but developed after this game. Though the fact that the penalties are back to the "5 strikes" system as opposed to health bars combined with SaveScumming being less convenient (there's no easy way to reload saves during a trial, so it requires a full reset, you have to go through the recap dialogue every time and you reload at the start of the testimony rather than at a specific statement) does make it harder than most entries in Phoenix's home series. Thankfully there is a Hint System in place during trials.
** Averted in the Layton portions of the game, with the puzzles being significantly easier and less varied than those in the main games. Nearly all of them can also be solved by using brute force too.

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* SequelDifficultySpike:
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SequelDifficultyDrop: The Layton portions of the game have puzzles that are significantly easier and less varied than those in the main games. Nearly all of them can also be solved by using brute force too.
* SequelDifficultySpike:
A weird case. The Phoenix portions of the game are considerably harder than ''Dual Destinies'', which was released earlier outside Japan but developed after this game. Though the fact that the penalties are back to the "5 strikes" system as opposed to health bars combined with SaveScumming being less convenient (there's no easy way to reload saves during a trial, so it requires a full reset, you have to go through the recap dialogue every time and you reload at the start of the testimony rather than at a specific statement) does make it harder than most entries in Phoenix's home series. Thankfully there is a Hint System in place during trials.
** Averted in the Layton portions of the game, with the puzzles being significantly easier and less varied than those in the main games. Nearly all of them can also be solved by using brute force too.
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** Observing Professor Layton in action, causes Phoenix to muse that they should make a movie of [[Franchise/IndianaJones an Archaeology Professor who goes on epic adventures in his spare time]]

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** Observing Professor Layton in action, action causes Phoenix to muse that they should make a movie of [[Franchise/IndianaJones an Archaeology Professor who goes on epic adventures in his spare time]]time]].



* StealthPun: When the crowd cheers "Barnham! Barnham!" it sounds like they're shouting "[[BurnTheWitch Burn 'em! Burn 'em!]]"

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* StealthPun: StealthPun:
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When the crowd cheers "Barnham! Barnham!" it sounds like they're shouting "[[BurnTheWitch Burn 'em! Burn 'em!]]"
29th Jun '17 4:07:49 PM infernape612
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* LeftHanging: We never do find out who whacked Aldente on the head.
6th Jun '17 12:28:36 PM ThatFanwiththeGlasses
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* MissingSecret: A variation with puzzle 20. Because it isn't available until after puzzle 39 can be completed, the player may think they missed a puzzle somewhere. The only indication that this is not the case is that Ridelle doesn't have it.
26th May '17 11:30:48 PM jnv11
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** The "story" heard upon first entering Labrynthia mentions "two companions" being attacked by a witch. Even people in-universe think it might be referring to Luke and Layton, and warn them to stay out of trouble. [[spoiler: It turns out to be [[RedShirt two random robbers we've never seen before.]]]]

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** The "story" heard upon first entering Labrynthia mentions "two companions" being attacked by a witch. Even people in-universe think it might be referring to Luke and Layton, and warn them to stay out of trouble. [[spoiler: It turns out to be [[RedShirt [[DisposableVagrant two random robbers we've never seen before.]]]]
18th May '17 10:23:36 AM nowaymanguy
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** Ironically, however, in a few small ways the court is shown to be more reasonable than the normal Ace Attorney courts. Namely in the first witch trial, where when Phoenix shatters the credibility of the witnesses, the Judge and Inquisitor Barnham briefly both strongly consider throwing out the whole case and letting Espella go (despite not having found the actual culprit) because the eyewitness testimony they are relying on is clearly completely worthless as proof of Espella's guilt. Normally the court treats the witnesses with sufficient credibility to condemn the defendant until their entire story is demonstrated to be physically impossible, and if you can't find the true culprit, the court almost never lets your client go free.
15th Apr '17 11:58:23 PM ThatFanwiththeGlasses
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* NostalgicMusicbox: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbiQzWGkXA "Turnabout Sisters ~ Music Box Melody"]] takes Maya's theme from her home series and turns it into a slow music box piece. Extremely fitting, considering it plays [[spoiler:when Phoenix is lamenting her apparent death]].
3rd Apr '17 6:38:55 PM nombretomado
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* NeverTrustATrailer: The first trailer had a number of aspects that are now completely contradictory, such as Layton being the one to prosecute Espella, Luke using his design from ''ProfessorLaytonAndTheLastSpecter'', and the scene described at the top of the page. [[spoiler:While he does prosecute Espella in the last case, it's to prove her innocence rather than her guilt.]] Even the parts that are used qualify as {{Missing Trailer Scene}}s, as the events were completely redrawn.

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* NeverTrustATrailer: The first trailer had a number of aspects that are now completely contradictory, such as Layton being the one to prosecute Espella, Luke using his design from ''ProfessorLaytonAndTheLastSpecter'', ''VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheLastSpecter'', and the scene described at the top of the page. [[spoiler:While he does prosecute Espella in the last case, it's to prove her innocence rather than her guilt.]] Even the parts that are used qualify as {{Missing Trailer Scene}}s, as the events were completely redrawn.
21st Feb '17 8:21:28 AM RaustBD
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** Ironically, however, in a few small ways the court is shown to be more reasonable than the normal Ace Attorney courts. Namely in the first witch trial, where when Phoenix shatters the credibility of the witnesses, the Judge and Inquisitor Barnham briefly both strongly consider throwing out the whole case and letting Espella go (despite not having found the actual culprit) because the eyewitness testimony they are relying on is clearly completely worthless as proof of Espella's guilt. Normally the court treats the witnesses with sufficient credibility to condemn the defendant until their entire story is demonstrated to be physically impossible, and if you can't find the true culprit, the court almost never lets your client go free.
23rd Nov '16 5:15:26 PM DragonRanger
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* BigBad: Both the Storyteller and the Great Witch Bezella are set up to be these. [[spoiler:However, Bezella is merely a legend and the Storyteller has no real power. The game has no BigBad, making this a Subverted Trope]].

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* BigBad: Both the Storyteller and the Great Witch Bezella are set up to be these. [[spoiler:However, Bezella is merely a legend and the Storyteller has no real power. The game has no BigBad, making this a Subverted Trope]].real "bad guy" is Darklaw, who tried to twist the Story so it hurt the Storyteller out of revenge and in fact was the one who started the mess in the first place, even if she didn't realize it]].



** IntercontinuityCrossover: Including the addition, it seems, of a third world for the characters of the first two to jump into. [[spoiler:It turns out that this isn't the case at all - Layton, Wright and Labrynthia all exist in the same world.]]

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** %%** IntercontinuityCrossover: Including the addition, it seems, of a third world for the characters of the first two to jump into. [[spoiler:It turns out that this isn't the case at all - Layton, Wright and Labrynthia all exist in the same world.]]



* FakeCrossover: The special episodes couldn't possibly exist within the Ace Attorney timeline. Since Maya uses Luke Atmey's BorrowedCatchphrase "Zvarri!" and [[spoiler:Phoenix still clearly has his badge]], it can be concluded that the main events of the game must take place between Case 3-2 on October 11-14, 2018 and [[spoiler:Phoenix's disbarment]] on April 19, 2019. While this gives ample time for the events in Labrynthia to take place, it's explicitly mentioned that the special episodes take place a year afterwards, putting them in late 2019 or early 2020. By this point, [[spoiler:Phoenix is disbarred and Maya is off serving as the Master of the Fey clan]], so there is no logical reason for the Ace Attorney characters to be in London at all.

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* FakeCrossover: The special episodes couldn't possibly exist within the Ace Attorney timeline. Since Besides the fact that those episodes gleefully break the fourth wall, Maya uses Luke Atmey's BorrowedCatchphrase "Zvarri!" and [[spoiler:Phoenix still clearly has his badge]], so it can be concluded that the main events of the game must take place between Case 3-2 on October 11-14, 2018 and [[spoiler:Phoenix's disbarment]] on April 19, 2019. While this gives ample time for the events in Labrynthia to take place, it's explicitly mentioned that the special episodes take place a year afterwards, putting them in late 2019 or early 2020. By this point, [[spoiler:Phoenix is disbarred and Maya is off serving as the Master of the Fey clan]], so there is no logical reason for the Ace Attorney characters to be in London at all.



* GivingSomeoneThePointerFinger: It's ''Phoenix Wright'' and ''Professor Layton'', people. The very first batch of promo pictures included shots of [[http://ds.ign.com/dor/objects/89847/professor-layton-vs-ace-attorney/images/layton-and-ace-attorney-team-up-on-3ds-20101019072705952.html each]] [[http://ds.ign.com/dor/objects/89847/professor-layton-vs-ace-attorney/images/layton-and-ace-attorney-team-up-on-3ds-20101019072659264.html one]] dramatically pointing. This is, of course, how [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbWfXEdW1fk the TGS 2011 trailer]] ends as well.

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* GivingSomeoneThePointerFinger: It's ''Phoenix Wright'' and ''Professor Layton'', people. The very first batch Layton''; of promo pictures included shots ''course'' there's a lot of [[http://ds.ign.com/dor/objects/89847/professor-layton-vs-ace-attorney/images/layton-and-ace-attorney-team-up-on-3ds-20101019072705952.html each]] [[http://ds.ign.com/dor/objects/89847/professor-layton-vs-ace-attorney/images/layton-and-ace-attorney-team-up-on-3ds-20101019072659264.html one]] dramatically pointing. This is, pointing going on. In addition to the regular puzzle and court pointing, every Witch Trial has a climactic moment where both simultaneously point as BackToBackBadasses. [[spoiler:This happens even when the Professor's a gold statue, as he's already in a pointing pose and Espella and Luke rotate him to give the same effect.]]
** Layton's pointer finger even becomes a ''key piece
of course, evidence'' in one trial, giving everyone the opportunity to compliment how [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbWfXEdW1fk the TGS 2011 trailer]] ends as well.strong and authoritative it is. (Meanwhile, Phoenix [[ButtMonkey complains to himself that he's known for pointing, too...]])



** Mary the goatkeeper is meant to evoke Mary had A Little Lamb. Lampshaded in the Special Episodes, when she points out that she has a little goat, not a little lamb.

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** Mary the goatkeeper is meant to evoke Mary had A Little Lamb. Lampshaded in the Special Episodes, when she points out that she has a little goat, not a little lamb.



** Lampshaded in one of the special episodes, where several villagers get together to complain about the names the developers stuck them with; including Mary (who has a ''goat'', not a lamb), Kira (who thinks that naming her "[[spoiler:Killer]]" was just lazy), and Emeer (who was named for the sake of the aforementioned {{Mondegreen}}). Emeer thinks "Punchenbaug" is a good strong name, though, and when Luke starts to work out its meaning Layton advises him not to share with Emeer.



* PhraseCatcher: A lot of people pick up on Layton's "that's what a gentleman does" and start using it themselves with their profession of choice in place of 'gentleman'.

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* %%* PhraseCatcher: A lot of people pick up on Layton's "that's what a gentleman does" and start using it themselves with their profession of choice in place of 'gentleman'.
22nd Oct '16 2:18:06 PM nombretomado
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* BritishAccents: Every character, with the exception of Nick and Maya (who have American accents), and Carmine and Olivia (who have Italian accents). The accents are far more varied than most other non-British works; while the more prominent Labyrinthians (such as the Judge and Barnham) have reasonably generic RP accents, witnesses and villagers lean more towards regional accents, such as Mary's thick Yorkshire accent and Kira's noticeable Estuary dialect.
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