History VideoGame / ProfessorLaytonVSAceAttorney

18th May '17 10:23:36 AM nowaymanguy
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** Ironically, however, in a few small ways the court is shown to be more reasonable than the normal Ace Attorney courts. Namely in the first witch trial, where when Phoenix shatters the credibility of the witnesses, the Judge and Inquisitor Barnham briefly both strongly consider throwing out the whole case and letting Espella go (despite not having found the actual culprit) because the eyewitness testimony they are relying on is clearly completely worthless as proof of Espella's guilt. Normally the court treats the witnesses with sufficient credibility to condemn the defendant until their entire story is demonstrated to be physically impossible, and if you can't find the true culprit, the court almost never lets your client go free.
15th Apr '17 11:58:23 PM ThatFanwiththeGlasses
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* NostalgicMusicbox: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hbiQzWGkXA "Turnabout Sisters ~ Music Box Melody"]] takes Maya's theme from her home series and turns it into a slow music box piece. Extremely fitting, considering it plays [[spoiler:when Phoenix is lamenting her apparent death]].
3rd Apr '17 6:38:55 PM nombretomado
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* NeverTrustATrailer: The first trailer had a number of aspects that are now completely contradictory, such as Layton being the one to prosecute Espella, Luke using his design from ''ProfessorLaytonAndTheLastSpecter'', and the scene described at the top of the page. [[spoiler:While he does prosecute Espella in the last case, it's to prove her innocence rather than her guilt.]] Even the parts that are used qualify as {{Missing Trailer Scene}}s, as the events were completely redrawn.

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* NeverTrustATrailer: The first trailer had a number of aspects that are now completely contradictory, such as Layton being the one to prosecute Espella, Luke using his design from ''ProfessorLaytonAndTheLastSpecter'', ''VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheLastSpecter'', and the scene described at the top of the page. [[spoiler:While he does prosecute Espella in the last case, it's to prove her innocence rather than her guilt.]] Even the parts that are used qualify as {{Missing Trailer Scene}}s, as the events were completely redrawn.
21st Feb '17 8:21:28 AM RaustBD
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** Ironically, however, in a few small ways the court is shown to be more reasonable than the normal Ace Attorney courts. Namely in the first witch trial, where when Phoenix shatters the credibility of the witnesses, the Judge and Inquisitor Barnham briefly both strongly consider throwing out the whole case and letting Espella go (despite not having found the actual culprit) because the eyewitness testimony they are relying on is clearly completely worthless as proof of Espella's guilt. Normally the court treats the witnesses with sufficient credibility to condemn the defendant until their entire story is demonstrated to be physically impossible, and if you can't find the true culprit, the court almost never lets your client go free.
23rd Nov '16 5:15:26 PM DragonRanger
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* BigBad: Both the Storyteller and the Great Witch Bezella are set up to be these. [[spoiler:However, Bezella is merely a legend and the Storyteller has no real power. The game has no BigBad, making this a Subverted Trope]].

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* BigBad: Both the Storyteller and the Great Witch Bezella are set up to be these. [[spoiler:However, Bezella is merely a legend and the Storyteller has no real power. The game has no BigBad, making this a Subverted Trope]].real "bad guy" is Darklaw, who tried to twist the Story so it hurt the Storyteller out of revenge and in fact was the one who started the mess in the first place, even if she didn't realize it]].



** IntercontinuityCrossover: Including the addition, it seems, of a third world for the characters of the first two to jump into. [[spoiler:It turns out that this isn't the case at all - Layton, Wright and Labrynthia all exist in the same world.]]

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** %%** IntercontinuityCrossover: Including the addition, it seems, of a third world for the characters of the first two to jump into. [[spoiler:It turns out that this isn't the case at all - Layton, Wright and Labrynthia all exist in the same world.]]



* FakeCrossover: The special episodes couldn't possibly exist within the Ace Attorney timeline. Since Maya uses Luke Atmey's BorrowedCatchphrase "Zvarri!" and [[spoiler:Phoenix still clearly has his badge]], it can be concluded that the main events of the game must take place between Case 3-2 on October 11-14, 2018 and [[spoiler:Phoenix's disbarment]] on April 19, 2019. While this gives ample time for the events in Labrynthia to take place, it's explicitly mentioned that the special episodes take place a year afterwards, putting them in late 2019 or early 2020. By this point, [[spoiler:Phoenix is disbarred and Maya is off serving as the Master of the Fey clan]], so there is no logical reason for the Ace Attorney characters to be in London at all.

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* FakeCrossover: The special episodes couldn't possibly exist within the Ace Attorney timeline. Since Besides the fact that those episodes gleefully break the fourth wall, Maya uses Luke Atmey's BorrowedCatchphrase "Zvarri!" and [[spoiler:Phoenix still clearly has his badge]], so it can be concluded that the main events of the game must take place between Case 3-2 on October 11-14, 2018 and [[spoiler:Phoenix's disbarment]] on April 19, 2019. While this gives ample time for the events in Labrynthia to take place, it's explicitly mentioned that the special episodes take place a year afterwards, putting them in late 2019 or early 2020. By this point, [[spoiler:Phoenix is disbarred and Maya is off serving as the Master of the Fey clan]], so there is no logical reason for the Ace Attorney characters to be in London at all.



* GivingSomeoneThePointerFinger: It's ''Phoenix Wright'' and ''Professor Layton'', people. The very first batch of promo pictures included shots of [[http://ds.ign.com/dor/objects/89847/professor-layton-vs-ace-attorney/images/layton-and-ace-attorney-team-up-on-3ds-20101019072705952.html each]] [[http://ds.ign.com/dor/objects/89847/professor-layton-vs-ace-attorney/images/layton-and-ace-attorney-team-up-on-3ds-20101019072659264.html one]] dramatically pointing. This is, of course, how [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbWfXEdW1fk the TGS 2011 trailer]] ends as well.

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* GivingSomeoneThePointerFinger: It's ''Phoenix Wright'' and ''Professor Layton'', people. The very first batch Layton''; of promo pictures included shots ''course'' there's a lot of [[http://ds.ign.com/dor/objects/89847/professor-layton-vs-ace-attorney/images/layton-and-ace-attorney-team-up-on-3ds-20101019072705952.html each]] [[http://ds.ign.com/dor/objects/89847/professor-layton-vs-ace-attorney/images/layton-and-ace-attorney-team-up-on-3ds-20101019072659264.html one]] dramatically pointing. This is, pointing going on. In addition to the regular puzzle and court pointing, every Witch Trial has a climactic moment where both simultaneously point as BackToBackBadasses. [[spoiler:This happens even when the Professor's a gold statue, as he's already in a pointing pose and Espella and Luke rotate him to give the same effect.]]
** Layton's pointer finger even becomes a ''key piece
of course, evidence'' in one trial, giving everyone the opportunity to compliment how [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbWfXEdW1fk the TGS 2011 trailer]] ends as well.strong and authoritative it is. (Meanwhile, Phoenix [[ButtMonkey complains to himself that he's known for pointing, too...]])



** Mary the goatkeeper is meant to evoke Mary had A Little Lamb. Lampshaded in the Special Episodes, when she points out that she has a little goat, not a little lamb.

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** Mary the goatkeeper is meant to evoke Mary had A Little Lamb. Lampshaded in the Special Episodes, when she points out that she has a little goat, not a little lamb.



** Lampshaded in one of the special episodes, where several villagers get together to complain about the names the developers stuck them with; including Mary (who has a ''goat'', not a lamb), Kira (who thinks that naming her "[[spoiler:Killer]]" was just lazy), and Emeer (who was named for the sake of the aforementioned {{Mondegreen}}). Emeer thinks "Punchenbaug" is a good strong name, though, and when Luke starts to work out its meaning Layton advises him not to share with Emeer.



* PhraseCatcher: A lot of people pick up on Layton's "that's what a gentleman does" and start using it themselves with their profession of choice in place of 'gentleman'.

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* %%* PhraseCatcher: A lot of people pick up on Layton's "that's what a gentleman does" and start using it themselves with their profession of choice in place of 'gentleman'.
22nd Oct '16 2:18:06 PM nombretomado
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* BritishAccents: Every character, with the exception of Nick and Maya (who have American accents), and Carmine and Olivia (who have Italian accents). The accents are far more varied than most other non-British works; while the more prominent Labyrinthians (such as the Judge and Barnham) have reasonably generic RP accents, witnesses and villagers lean more towards regional accents, such as Mary's thick Yorkshire accent and Kira's noticeable Estuary dialect.
5th Oct '16 5:38:17 AM Gosicrystal
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** In addition [[spoiler:all of the murders by witchcraft were faked. The only deaths are in the backstory: one from a suicide and the rest from an accident, so there's actually ''not a single murder in the entire game''.]]
* AnachronisticClue: As they explore the story teller's tower, they find a photo. Up to this point, everything has been medieval in technology level.

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** In addition addition, [[spoiler:all of the murders by witchcraft were faked. The only deaths are in the backstory: one from a suicide and the rest from an accident, so there's actually ''not a single murder in the entire game''.]]
* AnachronisticClue: As they you explore the story teller's storyteller's tower, they you find a photo. Up to this point, everything has been medieval in technology level.



** The number of hint coins available and number of hidden puzzles for every location are also shown in the location description when walking around on the world map, and like in every Layton game so far, any puzzles you miss can be solved later at your leisure, although without the dialogue that would normally accompany it.
** At least one of the puzzles also specifically notes that you cannot lose picarats for a wrong answer to that particular puzzle, and invites you to use "Check" as often as you like.

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** The number of hint coins available and number of hidden puzzles for every location are also shown in the location description when walking around on the world map, map; and like in every Layton game so far, any puzzles you miss can be solved later at your leisure, although without the dialogue that would normally accompany it.
** At least one of the puzzles also specifically notes that you cannot lose picarats for a wrong answer to that particular puzzle, and invites you to use "Check" as often as you like.



** When you play final main story puzzle, [[spoiler: "The Last Spell"]], the background music doesn't switch to the puzzle-solving theme. Instead, the music from the cutscene before it,[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5lYFVpso4E Pursuit ~ Casting Magic]] continues to play while you solve it.

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** When you play the final main story puzzle, [[spoiler: "The [[spoiler:"The Last Spell"]], the background music doesn't switch to the puzzle-solving theme. Instead, the music from the cutscene before it,[[https://www.it, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5lYFVpso4E Pursuit ~ Casting Magic]] Magic]], continues to play while you solve it.



** Phoenix when he's [[spoiler: mourning the apparent death of Maya.]]
** Layton after he [[spoiler: saves Maya.]] He easily beats back and disarms five thugs armed only with [[ImprovisedWeapon stick]], and when it looks like they're about to regroup, he stands his ground and asks, "Now, which one of you are first?".

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** Phoenix when he's [[spoiler: mourning [[spoiler:mourning the apparent death of Maya.]]
Maya]].
** Layton after he [[spoiler: saves Maya.]] [[spoiler:saves Maya]]. He easily beats back and disarms five thugs armed only with a [[ImprovisedWeapon stick]], and when it looks like they're about to regroup, he stands his ground and asks, "Now, which one of you are is first?".



* CallBack: Luke's habit of touching fire or hot things comes up again.

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* CallBack: CallBack:
**
Luke's habit of touching fire or hot things comes up again.again.
** This is the third time that [[spoiler:Maya has been put on trial]].
** Phoenix gets to [[spoiler:cross-examine a parrot]] again.
** [[spoiler:This isn't the first time the trick with the fire pit has been shown -- in ''Miracle Mask'', pretending to set people on fire was actually one of the tricks the Masked Gentleman used.]]
** Some of the major plot twists are similar to those of previous games in both the ''Layton'' and ''Ace Attorney'' series, including [[spoiler:the entire town being subject to hypnotic suggestion caused by a gas]] from ''VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheDiabolicalBox'' and [[spoiler:young children witnessing traumatic events which lead them to misinterpret their memories and put the blame on the wrong people]] from ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney''.
** Layton presents [[spoiler:a photograph of Darklaw]] at one point in the final case. When Phoenix objects to [[spoiler:the evidence's apparent anachronism]], Layton claims that "the end justifies the means" -- a commonly used phrase in ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies'', and one used to depict that game's Dark (Age of the) Law.



** [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney "ZVARRI!"]] from ''Trials and Tribulations'' is quipped by Maya.

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** [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney "ZVARRI!"]] Luke Atmey's catchphrase "ZVARRI!" from ''Trials ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney Trials and Tribulations'' Tribulations]]'' is quipped by Maya.



** This is the third time that [[spoiler: Maya was put on trial.]]
** ----> Phoenix: I'm more of a grape juice man myself (His love for grape juice has been mentioned in ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'')
** Phoenix is apparently the world's most experienced expert in the art of [[spoiler: parrot cross-examination]].
** Some of the major plot twists are similar to those of previous games in both the ''Layton'' and ''Ace Attorney'' series, including [[spoiler:[[VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheDiabolicalBox the entire town being subject to hypnotic suggestion caused by a gas]] and [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney young children witnessing traumatic events which lead them to misinterpret their memories and put the blame on the wrong people]]]].
** Layton presents [[spoiler:a photograph of Darklaw]] at one point in the final case. When Phoenix objects to [[spoiler:the evidence's apparent anachronism]], Layton claims that "the end justifies the means". A commonly used phrase in ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies'', and one used to depict that game's Dark (Age of the) Law.
** When discussing Phoenix's combat potential in a Special Episode, Phoenix mentions that his fighting catchprase would be something like "It's time to pay for your crimes." He uses this quote during his Ace Attorney Hyper Combo in ''[[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3]]''.
** [[spoiler:This isn't the first time the trick with the fire pit has been shown--in Miracle Mask, pretending to set people on fire was actually one of the tricks the Masked Gentleman used.]]

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** This is the third time that [[spoiler: Maya was put on trial.]]
** ----> Phoenix: I'm more of a grape juice man myself (His
Phoenix's love for grape juice has been mentioned in ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'')
**
''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'', and returns here with Phoenix is apparently the world's most experienced expert in the art of [[spoiler: parrot cross-examination]].
** Some of the major plot twists are similar to those of previous games in both the ''Layton'' and ''Ace Attorney'' series, including [[spoiler:[[VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheDiabolicalBox the entire town being subject to hypnotic suggestion caused by a gas]] and [[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney young children witnessing traumatic events which lead them to misinterpret their memories and put the blame on the wrong people]]]].
** Layton presents [[spoiler:a photograph of Darklaw]] at one point in the final case. When Phoenix objects to [[spoiler:the evidence's apparent anachronism]], Layton claims that "the end justifies the means". A commonly used phrase in ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies'', and one used to depict that game's Dark (Age of the) Law.
** When discussing Phoenix's combat potential in a Special Episode, Phoenix mentions that his fighting catchprase would be something like "It's time to pay for your crimes." He uses this quote during his Ace Attorney Hyper Combo in ''[[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3]]''.
** [[spoiler:This isn't the first time the trick with the fire pit has been shown--in Miracle Mask, pretending to set people on fire was actually one of the tricks the Masked Gentleman used.]]
himself lampshading it.


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* MythologyGag: When discussing Phoenix's combat potential in a Special Episode, Phoenix mentions that his fighting catchprase would be something like "It's time to pay for your crimes". He uses this quote during his Ace Attorney Hyper Combo in ''[[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3]]''.
5th Oct '16 1:29:35 AM ShiroAkuma
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* AnachronisticClue: As they explore the story teller's tower, they find a photo. Up to this point, everything has been medival in technology level.

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* AnachronisticClue: As they explore the story teller's tower, they find a photo. Up to this point, everything has been medival medieval in technology level.
7th Sep '16 12:04:29 AM drac0blade
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* MotionlessChin: Layton originating characters have this, despite original and Ace Attorney characters not.

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* MotionlessChin: Layton originating characters have this, despite that original and Ace Attorney characters do not.
6th Sep '16 11:39:34 PM drac0blade
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** IntercontinuityCrossover: Including the addition, it seems, of a third world for the characters of the first two to jump into.

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** IntercontinuityCrossover: Including the addition, it seems, of a third world for the characters of the first two to jump into. [[spoiler:It turns out that this isn't the case at all - Layton, Wright and Labrynthia all exist in the same world.]]
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