History VideoGame / PokemonColosseum

24th Sep '17 9:21:52 PM Karxrida
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** Throughout the game, most of the enemies you fight use Pokémon that were available to you at the time of the game's release (Pokemon obtainable in Ruby, Sapphire, Colosseum, or by breeding the Pokemon you Snagged in Colosseum). There are six examples of [=NPCs=] using Pokemon that weren't possible to get yet: Venus's Blissey and Steelix, an Under Colosseum trainer that has a Politoed, A [=Porygon2=] with the trainer you Snag Miltank from, and [[spoiler: Evice's Slowking and Scizor.]] All of these Pokemon would not be available until [=FireRed=] and [=LeafGreen=], which would be released later that year.
** In all Pokemon battles prior to the 4th generation (as in this game), when you use an item in battle it takes effect immediately, while you're ''still on the menu screen'' the actual round of combat hasn't started yet. In double battles this means that you can't cancel/undo the item and make your first Mon perform another action instead. But it does mean that the AI hasn't picked its moves either, so it can make decisions based on ''results'' of any items you use. This means that when you use an item to cure a status effect (such as Poison or Confusion), the AI can re-afflict your Pokemon with that status on the ''same turn''. Another example in double battles is that if you're down to your last Mon and use a Revive, you're required to send the revived Mon out immediately (also before the AI decides its moves), which means that the AI can attack (and possibly KO) the Mon on the same turn it was revived.

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** Throughout the game, most of the enemies you fight use Pokémon that were available to you at the time of the game's release (Pokemon (Pokémon obtainable in Ruby, Sapphire, Colosseum, or by breeding the Pokemon Pokémon you Snagged in Colosseum). There are six examples of [=NPCs=] using Pokemon Pokémon that weren't possible to get yet: Venus's Blissey and Steelix, an Under Colosseum trainer that has a Politoed, A [=Porygon2=] with the trainer you Snag Miltank from, and [[spoiler: Evice's Slowking and Scizor.]] All of these Pokemon Pokémon would not be available until [=FireRed=] and [=LeafGreen=], which would be released later that year.
** In all Pokemon Pokémon battles prior to the 4th generation (as in this game), when you use an item in battle it takes effect immediately, while you're ''still on the menu screen'' the actual round of combat hasn't started yet. In double battles this means that you can't cancel/undo the item and make your first Mon perform another action instead. But it does mean that the AI hasn't picked its moves either, so it can make decisions based on ''results'' of any items you use. This means that when you use an item to cure a status effect (such as Poison or Confusion), the AI can re-afflict your Pokemon Pokémon with that status on the ''same turn''. Another example in double battles is that if you're down to your last Mon and use a Revive, you're required to send the revived Mon out immediately (also before the AI decides its moves), which means that the AI can attack (and possibly KO) the Mon on the same turn it was revived.



** Even the main character, Wes, is darker and grittier than the usual fare of Pokemon protagonists. He's a master thief, a former member of a criminal organization, and owns a badass hoverbike that puts every other bike in the Pokemon universe to shame. The fact that he starts the story by bombing Team Snagem's Hideout really goes to show far he'll go as a newly-reformed vigilante.

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** Even the main character, Wes, is darker and grittier than the usual fare of Pokemon Pokémon protagonists. He's a master thief, a former member of a criminal organization, and owns a badass hoverbike that puts every other bike in the Pokemon Pokémon universe to shame. The fact that he starts the story by bombing Team Snagem's Hideout really goes to show far he'll go as a newly-reformed vigilante.



** The Espeon and Umbreon you start with are locked to always be male. This is to prevent players from breeding them to get Eevees before ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue FireRed and LeafGreen]]'' was released. Ditto was unavailable in ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' so female Pokemon were vital to breeding. The Scizor that's only available from an E-reader card is also always male to prevent the players from getting Scyther before the Kanto remakes came out.

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** The Espeon and Umbreon you start with are locked to always be male. This is to prevent players from breeding them to get Eevees before ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue FireRed and LeafGreen]]'' was released. Ditto was unavailable in ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' so female Pokemon Pokémon were vital to breeding. The Scizor that's only available from an E-reader card is also always male to prevent the players from getting Scyther before the Kanto remakes came out.



* HeroicMime: Like most protagonists in Pokémon games, Wes doesn't speak much, but there is one exception during Pokémon Battles when the player uses the Call command, in which Wes simply shouts the Pokemon's name.

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* HeroicMime: Like most protagonists in Pokémon games, Wes doesn't speak much, but there is one exception during Pokémon Battles when the player uses the Call command, in which Wes simply shouts the Pokemon's Pokémon's name.



* KarmaHoudini: All the Cipher admins except Nascour [[spoiler: and Evice]] are never apprehended, if the BonusLevel is canon. Even if it isn't Miror B. for sure never gets caught since he shows up in the sequel as a [[RecurringBoss Recurring]] BonusBoss.
* KickTheDog: Cipher is pretty much all about this trope. For example, during Cipher's attack on Mt. Battle, [[TheBigGuy Dakim]] knocks a Trainer to the ground with a huge punch. That's how evil and strong he is.

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* KarmaHoudini: All It's implied that none of the Cipher admins except members of Cipher's leadership -- bar Nascour [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and Evice]] -- are never apprehended, if the BonusLevel is canon. Even if it isn't ever apprehended. Miror B. for sure never gets caught since he even shows up in the sequel ''[[VideoGame/PokemonXDGaleOfDarkness XD: Gale of Darkness]]'' as a [[RecurringBoss Recurring]] BonusBoss.
RecurringBoss.
* KickTheDog: Cipher is pretty much all about this trope.Cipher's entire plan revolves around being cruel to Pokémon to turn them into Shadow Pokémon, and they occasionally go out of their way just to be jerks. For example, during Cipher's attack on Mt. Battle, [[TheBigGuy Dakim]] Dakim knocks a Trainer to the ground with a huge punch. That's how evil and strong he is.punch.



* MacGuffinSuperPerson: Rui, the girl who can identify Shadow Pokemon by sight.

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* MacGuffinSuperPerson: Rui, the girl who can identify Shadow Pokemon Pokémon by sight.



* MagikarpPower: The Shadow Remoraid comes horribly under-leveled, being available for capture at Level 20 when you're fighting trainers with Pokémon in the early 30's. However, it has a really diverse movepool in a game where many Pokémon don't have a lot of options, and its stats are decent upon evolving into Octillery.



* NintendoHard: The story mode is a huge DifficultySpike compared to the rest of the series, because of the small pool of available Pokémon, and the fact that bosses are '''not''' suffering from CripplingOverspecialization. They use legitimate--and often very effective--strategies which can easily decimate your party.
** A common one in the late game is for one of their Pokémon uses Protect, while the other unleashes Earthquake.

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* NintendoHard: The story mode is a huge DifficultySpike compared to the rest of the series, because of the small pool of available Pokémon, and the fact that bosses are '''not''' suffering from CripplingOverspecialization. They use legitimate--and often very effective--strategies which can easily decimate your party.
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party. A common one in the late game is for one of their Pokémon uses Protect, while the other unleashes Earthquake.



* RandomEncounters: Averted, unlike the main series. There are no wild Pokemon whatsoever in Orre until XD-- the only Mons you battle in Colosseum belong to opposing Trainers.

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* RandomEncounters: Averted, unlike the main series. There are no wild Pokemon Pokémon whatsoever in Orre until XD-- the only Mons you battle in Colosseum belong to opposing Trainers.



* TheScottishTrope: "A distant land" (listed in "Met" in a Pokemon's profile page) is the only reference made to Orre in the rest of the series.

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* TheScottishTrope: "A distant land" (listed in "Met" in a Pokemon's Pokémon's profile page) is the only reference made to Orre in the rest of the series.



* SecretCharacter: [[spoiler: Ho-oh. You have to purify all the Shadow Pokemon, then beat Mt. Battle -- not within the story mode itself but in Battle Mode from the frontend menu, using Mons from from your Colosseum save file.]]

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* SecretCharacter: [[spoiler: Ho-oh. You have to purify all the Shadow Pokemon, Pokémon, then beat Mt. Battle -- not within the story mode itself but in Battle Mode from the frontend menu, using Mons from from your Colosseum save file.]]



* StrictlyFormula: Subverted. While you're still fighting an evil syndicate, you've still GottaCatchThemAll, and the story ends with a BossBonanza, that's where the similarities end. There are no [[PlotCoupon Gym Badges]] to collect, no wild Pokemon to catch, and no League to challenge. Instead of [[FeaturelessProtagonist a generic kid]], you play as a teenaged [[HeelFaceTurn reformed criminal]] who is out to [[TheAtoner set things right]]. The only Pokemon available are your two starters, plus whatever [[TheHeartless Shadow Pokemon]] you manage to steal from other trainers. Lastly, all battles are double battles.

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* StrictlyFormula: Subverted. While you're still fighting an evil syndicate, you've still GottaCatchThemAll, and the story ends with a BossBonanza, that's where the similarities end. There are no [[PlotCoupon Gym Badges]] to collect, no wild Pokemon Pokémon to catch, and no League to challenge. Instead of [[FeaturelessProtagonist a generic kid]], you play as a teenaged [[HeelFaceTurn reformed criminal]] who is out to [[TheAtoner set things right]]. The only Pokemon Pokémon available are your two starters, plus whatever [[TheHeartless Shadow Pokemon]] Pokémon]] you manage to steal from other trainers. Lastly, all battles are double battles.



* TooAwesomeToUse: Using a Time Flute instantly purifies a Shadow Pokémon, regardless of its heart gauge, but they are consumed after one use and there are only three available in the game, and one of them is a [[BraggingRightsReward reward for clearing all ten areas of Mt. Battle]].

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* TooAwesomeToUse: Using a Time Flute instantly purifies a Shadow Pokémon, regardless of the state of its heart gauge, Heart Gauge, but they are the Flute is consumed after one a single use and there are only three available in the game, and game. To top it all off, one of them is a [[BraggingRightsReward reward for clearing all ten areas completing one of Mt. Battle]].the hardest (optional) parts of the game]].
24th Sep '17 6:14:51 PM Karxrida
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: A couple of easily missed dialogue lines reference a man who got very rich in the mines of The Under and a rich man building the Tower Colosseum (Cipher's HQ). These seem like throwaway lines until you realize, no one encountered in the Cipher Administration of Colosseum is wealthy. They're referring to [[spoiler:Mr. Verich aka Grand Master Greevil, the Big Bad]] of ''XD: Gale of Darkness''.

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: {{Foreshadowing}}:
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A couple of easily missed dialogue lines reference a man who got very rich in the mines of The Under and a rich man building the Tower Colosseum (Cipher's HQ). These seem like throwaway lines until you realize, no one encountered in the Cipher Administration of Colosseum is wealthy. They're referring to [[spoiler:Mr. Verich aka Grand Master Greevil, the Big Bad]] of ''XD: Gale of Darkness''.
24th Sep '17 6:14:10 PM Karxrida
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* LastDiscMagic: At the end of the Shadow Pokémon Lab, the second-to-last dungeon, you find the TM for Earthquake. Earthquake is one of the game's strongest moves, being a HerdHittingAttack with a BP of 100 (150 with Same-Type Attack Bonus).
24th Sep '17 6:04:24 PM Karxrida
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* OneGameForThePriceOfTwo: One of the complaints was how in order to get all of the Pokémon before [=FireRed=], [=LeafGreen=], and Emerald were released, you needed this game and one of those [=GameCube=] to Game Boy Advance Link Cables.
* PerkyFemaleMinion: Venus.

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* OneGameForThePriceOfTwo: One of the complaints was how in order to get all of the Pokémon before [=FireRed=], [=LeafGreen=], and Emerald were released, you needed this game and one of those [=GameCube=] to Game Boy Advance Link Cables.
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%%* PerkyFemaleMinion: Venus.



* SaveGameLimits: You have only one save "file" ... per memory card, at least. The file is also locked to the card it was created on; you can't copy it off to a different card.

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* SaveGameLimits: You have only one save "file" ... file per memory card, at least.card. The file is also locked to the card it was created on; you can't copy it off to a different card.



* StandardEvilEmpireHierarchy: The Cipher Syndicate:
** TheEmperor: Nascour
** The Right Hand: [[spoiler:Gonzap]]
** The General: Dakim
** The Guard: Venus/Ein
** The {{Evil Counterpart}}: Skrub/Fein
** The Oddball: Miror B
** {{The Man Behind the Man}}: [[spoiler:Evice]].



* TooAwesomeToUse: Using a Time Flute instantly purifies a Shadow Pokemon, regardless of its heart gauge, but they are consumed after one use and there are only three available in the game, and one of them is a [[BraggingRightsReward reward for clearing all ten areas of Mt. Battle.]]
* TopHeavyGuy: The Bodybuilder Trainer class. This also applies to Dakim, who is so top-heavy that he's perpetually [[PrimalStance hunched over like a gorilla]].
** Interestingly enough, [[BrawnHilda this design aspect]] ''[[BrawnHilda doesn't]]'' [[BrawnHilda change for the female Body Builder class.]]

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* TooAwesomeToUse: Using a Time Flute instantly purifies a Shadow Pokemon, Pokémon, regardless of its heart gauge, but they are consumed after one use and there are only three available in the game, and one of them is a [[BraggingRightsReward reward for clearing all ten areas of Mt. Battle.]]
Battle]].
* TopHeavyGuy: The Characters from the Bodybuilder Trainer class. class only seem to focus on their upper body muscles. This also applies to Dakim, who is so top-heavy that he's perpetually [[PrimalStance hunched over like a gorilla]].
** Interestingly enough, [[BrawnHilda this design aspect]] ''[[BrawnHilda doesn't]]'' [[BrawnHilda change for the female Body Builder class.]]
gorilla]].



* ViceCity: Pyrite Town.
* WakeUpCallBoss / EarlyBirdBoss: Miror B. in ''Colosseum'', as you can't level up any Snagged Pokémon yet, and you have precious few moves that are effective against his team. At least his battle theme is a CrowningMusicOfAwesome.

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* ViceCity: Pyrite Town.
Town is almost totally lawless and rundown.
* WakeUpCallBoss / EarlyBirdBoss: WakeUpCallBoss: Miror B. in ''Colosseum'', as you can't level up any Snagged Pokémon yet, and you have precious few moves that are effective against his team. At least his battle theme is a CrowningMusicOfAwesome.
24th Sep '17 5:02:47 PM Karxrida
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* DifficultySpike: The two final bosses have a significant level advantage over the fights immediately preceeding Fisk. Most of the battles you face before are in the high 40s maximum, but the last two are in the 50s and 60-61 respectively. You'll likely have to grind a bit before you can stand a chance of beating them.

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* DifficultySpike: The two final bosses have a significant level advantage over the fights immediately preceeding Fisk.them. Most of the battles you face before are in the high 40s maximum, but the last two are in the 50s and 60-61 respectively. You'll likely have to grind a bit before you can stand a chance of beating them.
24th Sep '17 5:01:46 PM Karxrida
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* {{Bowdlerise}}: In the Japanese version, Rui's shirt [[BareYourMidriff shows off her navel]] and has a longer skirt. The international versions lengthen her shirt and skirt.

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* {{Bowdlerise}}: In the Japanese version, Rui's shirt [[BareYourMidriff shows off her navel]] and has she sports a longer pretty short skirt. The international versions lengthen her shirt and skirt.
24th Sep '17 5:00:54 PM Karxrida
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* AfterCombatRecovery: When doing Colosseum matches (outside of the plot-driven ones) and taking on the Mt. Battle challenge, your team will be healed after each battle.

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* AfterCombatRecovery: When doing the optional Colosseum matches (outside of the plot-driven ones) and taking on the Mt. Battle challenge, your team will be healed after each battle.



* AerithAndBob: The two main characters have the fairly normal-sounding names of Wes and Rui. However, everyone ''else'' has really weird, made-up-sounding names like Gonzap and Nascour. This is in very sharp contrast with the handheld games where human characters have regular that follow a theme or pun.

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* AerithAndBob: The two main characters have the fairly normal-sounding names of Wes and Rui. However, everyone ''else'' has really weird, made-up-sounding names like Gonzap and Nascour. This is in very sharp contrast with the handheld games Creator/GameFreak games, where human characters have regular names that follow a theme or pun.



* BookEnds: [[spoiler:Both the first and last battles of the game take place outside of the Outskirt Stand.]]

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* BookEnds: [[spoiler:Both {{Bookends}}: Both the first and last battles of the game take place outside of the Outskirt Stand.]]



* {{Bowdlerise}}: Rui's shirt no longer [[BareYourMidriff shows off her navel]] and has her skirt lengthened in international releases.

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* {{Bowdlerise}}: In the Japanese version, Rui's shirt no longer [[BareYourMidriff shows off her navel]] and has her skirt lengthened in a longer skirt. The international releases.versions lengthen her shirt and skirt.



* CoversAlwaysLie: You see Groudon and Kyogre up there with Wes? You can't actually obtain either of them without transferring them in from another game.

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* CoversAlwaysLie: You see Groudon and Kyogre up there on the cover with Wes? You can't actually obtain either of them without transferring them in from another game.



* DeusExMachina: In the ending, [[spoiler:Evice would've escaped in his helicopter if it weren't for the fact that Ho-Oh came and blasted the aforementioned helicopter into smithereens before he could get into it.]]

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* DeusExMachina: In the ending, [[spoiler:Evice would've escaped in his [[spoiler:Evice's helicopter if it weren't for the fact that Ho-Oh came and blasted escape is thwarted by Ho-Oh, who comes out of nowhere with no foreshadowing to blast the aforementioned helicopter into smithereens before he could get into it.]]smithereens]].



** One example that doesn't work in the player's favor is the fact that Espeon and Umbreon are locked to always be male. This is to prevent players from breeding them to get Eevees before ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Fire Red and Leaf Green]]'' was released. Ditto was unavailable in ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' so female Pokemon were vital to breeding. The Scizor that's only available from an E-reader card is also always male to prevent the players from getting Scyther before the Kanto remakes came out.
* DifficultySpike: The two final bosses. Most of the battles you've faced so far are up to the high 40s maximum, but the last two are in the 50s and 60-61 respectively. You'll likely have to grind a bit before you can stand a chance of beating them.

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** One example that doesn't work in the player's favor is the fact that The Espeon and Umbreon you start with are locked to always be male. This is to prevent players from breeding them to get Eevees before ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Fire Red FireRed and Leaf Green]]'' LeafGreen]]'' was released. Ditto was unavailable in ''VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire'' so female Pokemon were vital to breeding. The Scizor that's only available from an E-reader card is also always male to prevent the players from getting Scyther before the Kanto remakes came out.
* DifficultySpike: The two final bosses. bosses have a significant level advantage over the fights immediately preceeding Fisk. Most of the battles you've faced so far you face before are up to in the high 40s maximum, but the last two are in the 50s and 60-61 respectively. You'll likely have to grind a bit before you can stand a chance of beating them.



* TheDogWasTheMastermind: [[spoiler: The mayor of Phenac City is the leader of Cipher.]]

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* TheDogWasTheMastermind: [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The mayor of Phenac City City]] is the leader of Cipher.]]



* EndgamePlus: After beating the game, Wes starts receiving email from the Kids' Grid members hinting about where to find more Shadow Pokémon, including the old Team Snagem hideout which he blew up during the opening movie. On the other hand, nobody acknowledges the defeat and arrest of Cipher's leaders, and the player may return to Realgam Tower Colosseum to challenge the final battles again.

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* EndgamePlus: After beating the game, Wes starts receiving email from the Kids' Grid members hinting about where to find more Shadow Pokémon, including the old Team Snagem hideout which he blew up during the opening movie. On the other hand, nobody acknowledges the defeat and arrest of Cipher's leaders, and the player you may return to Realgam Tower Colosseum to challenge the final battles again.



* FacelessGoons: Cipher Peons. Ironically, they are the only evil team grunts in the series with individual names.

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* FacelessGoons: Cipher Peons.Peons wear masks, obscuring their faces. Ironically, they are the only evil team grunts in the series with individual names.



* {{Foreshadowing}}: A couple of easily missed dialogue lines reference a man who got very rich in the mines of The Under and a rich man building the Tower Colosseum (Cipher's HQ). These seem like throwaway lines until you realize, no one encountered in the Cipher Administration of Colosseum is wealthy. They're referring to [[spoiler: Mr. Verich aka Grand Master Greevil, the Big Bad]] of ''XD: Gale of Darkness''.
** Remember where you first meet [[spoiler:Nascour? The mayor's office]]? Yeah. [[spoiler: The Mayor turns out to be the BigBad in the end.]]

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: A couple of easily missed dialogue lines reference a man who got very rich in the mines of The Under and a rich man building the Tower Colosseum (Cipher's HQ). These seem like throwaway lines until you realize, no one encountered in the Cipher Administration of Colosseum is wealthy. They're referring to [[spoiler: Mr.[[spoiler:Mr. Verich aka Grand Master Greevil, the Big Bad]] of ''XD: Gale of Darkness''.
** Remember where you You first meet [[spoiler:Nascour? The mayor's office]]? Yeah. [[spoiler: The Mayor [[spoiler:Nascour outside of the Phenac City Mayor's office]]. It turns out to be the BigBad in the end.that [[spoiler:Nascour was meeting with his boss and real head of Cipher, Mayor Es Cade (aka Evice).]]
10th Aug '17 12:28:08 PM rmctagg09
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* TooAwesomeToUse: Using a Time Flute instantly purifies a Shadow Pokemon, regardless of it's heart gauge, but they are consumed after one use and there are only three available in the game, and one of them is a [[BraggingRightsReward reward for clearing all ten areas of Mt. Battle.]]

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* TooAwesomeToUse: Using a Time Flute instantly purifies a Shadow Pokemon, regardless of it's its heart gauge, but they are consumed after one use and there are only three available in the game, and one of them is a [[BraggingRightsReward reward for clearing all ten areas of Mt. Battle.]]
10th Aug '17 7:40:55 AM Digsu
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* TooAwesomeToUse: Using a Time Flute instantly purifies a Shadow Pokemon, regardless of it's heart gauge, but they are consumed after one use and there are only three available in the game, and one of them is a [[BraggingRightsReward reward for clearing all ten areas of Mt. Battle.]]
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* AmericansAreCowboys: WordOfGod gives the basis for the crime ridden wasteland of Orre [[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nom/0311/soft/interv01.html as Phoenix, Arizona.]]

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* AmericansAreCowboys: WordOfGod gives Nintendo and Genius Sonority give the basis for the crime ridden wasteland of Orre [[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/nom/0311/soft/interv01.html as Phoenix, Arizona.]]
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