History VideoGame / Jak3Wastelander

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Seem's scene when he's rescued in the temple in Act 3 actually gives a major clue about [[spoiler: the [[WeaselMascot Precursor]]'s true nature]].
13th Jan '16 12:19:02 PM TheNerfGuy
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* PurposefullyOverpowered: The Peace Maker and Supernova weapons.

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* PurposefullyOverpowered: PurposelyOverpowered: The Peace Maker and Supernova weapons.
13th Dec '15 12:27:39 PM Chubzhac
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* PlotHole: When Ashelin meets with the banished Jak in the Wasteland to try and get him to return and help Haven City, he refuses, telling her that everyone in Haven City can rot for all he cares. The missions following this scene lead up to Jak returning to Haven City without anything that explains this sudden change of heart.
** Ashelin was unable to stop the Grand Council from banishing Jak in the beginning of the game but near the end she suddenly has enough power and authority to dissolve the entire Grand Council by herself just because she was tired of dealing with Veger.
20th Nov '15 8:45:28 AM Mooncinder
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* KnightInSourArmor: Some of the idle chatter among the Freedom Guards reveal that many of them have given up any hope of victory, feeling like they're
{{Red Shirt}}s in a ForeverWar. Others openly pine for the days when Praxis was in charge, or give half-hearted assurances that Torn will see them through the crisis. When the fighting starts, though, you'd never guess they doubt their cause for a second.

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* KnightInSourArmor: Some of the idle chatter among the Freedom Guards reveal that many of them have given up any hope of victory, feeling like they're
they're {{Red Shirt}}s in a ForeverWar. Others openly pine for the days when Praxis was in charge, or give half-hearted assurances that Torn will see them through the crisis. When the fighting starts, though, you'd never guess they doubt their cause for a second.



* LargeHam: Veger, thanks to some delightfully over-the-top voice acting. His entire MotiveRant and TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Jak just before the Precursor Robot fight is Made of Ham. [[spoiler:Cyber-Errol]] gets in on the act, too. This is probably why the animators during the commentary said that it was such good

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* LargeHam: Veger, thanks to some delightfully over-the-top voice acting. His entire MotiveRant and TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Jak just before the Precursor Robot fight is Made of Ham. [[spoiler:Cyber-Errol]] gets in on the act, too. This is probably why the animators during the commentary said that it was such good fun animating these characters.



fun animating these characters.
1st Nov '15 9:56:07 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* LargeHam: Veger, thanks to some delightfully over-the-top voice acting. His entire MotiveRant and TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Jak just before the Precursor Robot fight is Made of Ham. [[spoiler:Cyber-Errol]] gets in on the act, too. This is probably why the animators during the commentary said that it was such good



fun animating these characters.
* LaserSight: The Morph Gun.



* LargeHam: Veger, thanks to some delightfully over-the-top voice acting. His entire MotiveRant and TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Jak just before the Precursor Robot fight is Made of Ham. [[spoiler:Cyber-Errol]] gets in on the act, too. This is probably why the animators during the commentary said that it was such good fun animating these characters.
* LaserSight: The Morph Gun.



%%* NeglectfulPrecursors: Literally. See TheGodsMustBeLazy above.

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%%* NeglectfulPrecursors: Literally. See TheGodsMustBeLazy above.NeglectfulPrecursors



* ThreeActStructure

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* UnexpectedGameplayChange

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* %%* UnexpectedGameplayChange



** SwissArmyGun: Jak now has extra weapon mods, taking the grand total of guns up to twelve. That's three times the number of guns he had in the previous game.

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** SwissArmyGun: Jak now has extra weapon mods, taking the grand total of guns up to twelve. That's three times the number of guns he had in the previous game.



** {{Minigames}}: Some, like the jetboard challenge and 'find the orb' timed missions, make a comeback, but there's also FirstPersonShooter games, a RidingTheBomb mission, a ride down the Catacombs and even a pac-man style game.

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** {{Minigames}}: Some, Some {{Minigames}}, like the jetboard challenge and 'find the orb' timed missions, make a comeback, but there's also FirstPersonShooter games, a RidingTheBomb mission, a ride down the Catacombs and even a pac-man style game.



* SuicideMission: Damas sends Jak and [[spoiler:Sig]] on one in order to redeem themselves. Them being them, [[ForegoneConclusion they survive.]]

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* SuicideMission: Damas sends Jak and [[spoiler:Sig]] on one in order to redeem themselves. [[{{Badass}} Them being them, [[ForegoneConclusion they survive.]]
1st Nov '15 9:51:08 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* AirborneAircraftCarrier[=/=]OminousFloatingCastle: The War Factory serves as the former because it deploys KG robots and has a flying defense constantly patrolling around it, which can be shot down during the raid at the climax of Act Two, and serves as the latter because it's the KG leader's HQ. The Floating War Factory is so large it almost counts as a man-made FloatingContinent. Quite what keeps it up is anybody's guess, [[RuleOfCool but it]] ''[[RuleOfCool does]]'' [[RuleOfCool look intimidating overshadowing the city]].

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* AirborneAircraftCarrier[=/=]OminousFloatingCastle: AirborneAircraftCarrier: The War Factory serves as the former this because it deploys KG robots and has a flying defense constantly patrolling around it, which can be shot down during the raid at the climax of Act Two, and serves as the OminousFloatingCastle latter because it's the KG leader's HQ. The Floating War Factory is so large it almost counts as a man-made FloatingContinent. Quite what keeps it up is anybody's guess, [[RuleOfCool but it]] ''[[RuleOfCool does]]'' [[RuleOfCool look intimidating overshadowing the city]].



* AlreadyUndoneForYou: Veger manages to get through many of the same areas as Jak, including the [[TempleOfDoom Precursor Temple]] and the ruins of the palace. Possibly justified in the first example because he was with Seem, so the monks probably have their own DeathTrap-free passages to go through, but how the hell did he manage to get through the ruins, which were crawling with [[spoiler: Dark Makers]]? Considering he had access to a giant fireball launching weapon, it wouldn't be hard to guess that he just fought his way to that point. This also means that [[spoiler: Veger killed Damas.]]
* AlwaysChaoticEvil: Those pesky Metal Heads make a comeback, [[spoiler: only to get upstaged by the much more threatening Dark Makers.]]

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* AlreadyUndoneForYou: Veger manages to get through many of the same areas as Jak, including the [[TempleOfDoom Precursor Temple]] and the ruins of the palace. Possibly justified in the first example because he was with Seem, so the monks probably have their own DeathTrap-free passages to go through, but how the hell did he manage to get through the ruins, which were crawling with [[spoiler: Dark [[spoiler:Dark Makers]]? Considering he had access to a giant fireball launching weapon, it wouldn't be hard to guess that he just fought his way to that point. This also means that [[spoiler: Veger [[spoiler:Veger killed Damas.]]
* AlwaysChaoticEvil: Those pesky Metal Heads make a comeback, [[spoiler: only [[spoiler:only to get upstaged by the much more threatening Dark Makers.]]



* BagOfSpilling: You start off with none of Jak's weapons or the JET-board, as they were taken from Jak prior to his being banished. However, he regains them all throughout the game--[[MoreDakka with upgrades]]. Sadly, though, he doesn't get to keep the Dark powers he acquired in ''Jak II'', save for the Dark Bomb.

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* BagOfSpilling: You start off with none of Jak's weapons or the JET-board, as they were taken from Jak prior to his being banished. However, he regains them all throughout the game--[[MoreDakka with upgrades]]. Sadly, though, he doesn't get to keep the Dark powers he acquired in ''Jak II'', save for the Dark Bomb.Bomb and Dark Blast.



* BigDamnHeroes: Damas
* BigDamnFireExit: The conspicuously giant warpgate located in the the Terraformer storage part of the [[spoiler: Dark Maker]] ship is the way Jak and Dax survive the subsequent destruction of it.

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* %%* BigDamnHeroes: Damas
* BigDamnFireExit: The conspicuously giant warpgate located in the the Terraformer storage part of the [[spoiler: Dark [[spoiler:Dark Maker]] ship is the way Jak and Dax survive the subsequent destruction of it.



* BizarreAndImprobableBallistics:
** But let's face it, homing bullets and ricocheting lasers are ''fun''.
** BeamSpam[=/=]ReflectingLaser[=/=]HyperDestructiveBouncingBall: The Beam Reflexor. Especially when combined with the spin kick.

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* BizarreAndImprobableBallistics:
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BizarreAndImprobableBallistics: The [[ReflectingLaser Beam Reflector]], especially when [[BeamSpam combined with the spin kick]] and upgraded for [[HyperDestructiveBouncingBall extra ricochets]]. But let's face it, homing bullets and ricocheting lasers are ''fun''.
** BeamSpam[=/=]ReflectingLaser[=/=]HyperDestructiveBouncingBall: The Beam Reflexor. Especially when combined with the spin kick.
''fun''.



* BoringButPractical: The Scatter Gun and the Blaster.

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* %%* BoringButPractical: The Scatter Gun and the Blaster.



* BossBanter: [[spoiler: Cyber-Errol]] just won't stop taunting Jak.

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* BossBanter: [[spoiler: Cyber-Errol]] [[spoiler:Cyber-Errol]] just won't stop taunting Jak.



* BottomlessBladder

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* %%* BottomlessBladder



* BreakTheHaughty[=/=]LaserGuidedKarma:
** Veger gets his comeuppance when [[spoiler: he discovers the Precursors (who he idolized) are ottsels, gets turned into one, and becomes Kleiver's sidekick.]] Almost makes you feel sorry for him... oh, wait, no it doesn't.
** Veger appeals to Jak's friends and tries to persuade them to let him lead the expedition to the catacombs. Not only do they all side with Jak, but Ashelin removes him from authority. The cutscene is even called [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin "Veger Gets Humiliated"]].



* CurseCutShort[=/=]LastSecondWordSwap: After the second Metal Head Nest challenge with Sig:
--> '''Sig:''' It's gonna be a big pile...\\
'''Daxter:''' Yeah, a big pile of sh-- ''(picks up the peace maker)'' --ould I cock this?



* DynamicLoading: Usually a door opening.



* FlippingTheBird: Daxter does this to Pecker (censored by the top of the screen of course). [[BerserkButton Pecker is not pleased]].
** StealthPun

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* FlippingTheBird: Daxter does this to Pecker [[StealthPun who's half-bird]] (censored by the top of the screen of course). [[BerserkButton Pecker is not pleased]].
** StealthPun
pleased]].



* HordeOfAlienLocusts: Metal Heads, though this is mostly inferred by fans as no other motivation appears to guide them. See MotiveDecay below.

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* HordeOfAlienLocusts: Metal Heads, though this is mostly inferred by fans as no other motivation appears to guide them. See MotiveDecay below.
* HostileTerraforming: [[spoiler:The Dark Maker's Terraformer will do this to the planet, making it completely uninhabitable to current life.]]



* [[IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHer If You Ever Do Anything To Hurt Him]]: Tess warns Jak that if he fails to protect Daxter, she'll hunt him down and hurt him REAL BAD.

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* [[IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHer If You Ever Do Anything To Hurt Him]]: IfYouEverDoAnythingToHurtHim: Tess warns Jak that if he fails to protect Daxter, she'll hunt him down and hurt him REAL BAD.



* KarmaHoudini: Not totally, but considering the things he does, Veger gets off lightly.



* KickTheDog: Veger's actions, some of which border on MoralEventHorizon. Needless to say, trying to have Jak banished as a scapegoat for all the problems in the city wasn't even the worst he did.

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* KickTheDog: Veger's actions, some of which border on MoralEventHorizon. Needless to say, you'll find trying to have Jak banished as a scapegoat for all the problems in the city wasn't even the worst he did.



* KnightInSourArmor: Some of the idle chatter among the Freedom Guards reveal that many of them have given up any hope of victory, [[GenreSavvy feeling like they're]] [[RedShirt RedShirts]] in a ForeverWar. Others openly pine for the days when Praxis was in charge, or give half-hearted assurances that Torn will see them through the crisis. When the fighting starts, though, you'd never guess they doubt their cause for a second.

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* KnightInSourArmor: Some of the idle chatter among the Freedom Guards reveal that many of them have given up any hope of victory, [[GenreSavvy feeling like they're]] [[RedShirt RedShirts]] they're
{{Red Shirt}}s
in a ForeverWar. Others openly pine for the days when Praxis was in charge, or give half-hearted assurances that Torn will see them through the crisis. When the fighting starts, though, you'd never guess they doubt their cause for a second.



* KudzuPlot: The story is practically impossible to sum up quickly, and the revelations made in that game raise many questions that may never be answered.
* LaserGuidedKarma:
** Veger gets his comeuppance when [[spoiler: he discovers the Precursors (who he idolized) are ottsels, gets turned into one, and becomes Kleiver's sidekick.]] Almost makes you feel sorry for him... oh, wait, no it doesn't.
** Veger appeals to Jak's friends and tries to persuade them to let him lead the expedition to the catacombs. Not only do they all side with Jak, but Ashelin removes him from authority. The cutscene is even called [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin "Veger Gets Humiliated"]].



* LastSecondWordSwap: After the second Metal Head Nest challenge with Sig:
--> '''Sig:''' It's gonna be a big pile...\\
'''Daxter:''' Yeah, a big pile of sh-- ''(picks up the peace maker)'' --ould I cock this?



* LightIsNotGood: Count Veger is revealed to be this. He compounds this in his aforementioned TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Jak.
* LikeYouWereDying: After a fashion, anyway.

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* LightIsNotGood: Count Veger is revealed to be this. He compounds this in his aforementioned TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Jak.
* %%* LikeYouWereDying: After a fashion, anyway.



** DynamicLoading: Usually a door opening.



%%* NeglectfulPrecursors: Literally. See TheGodsMustBeLazy above.



* [[PhysicalGod Physical Gods]][=/=]PowersThatBe: The Precursors, again. This game finally out-and-out confirms their nature.

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* [[PhysicalGod Physical Gods]][=/=]PowersThatBe: PhysicalGod: The Precursors, again. This game finally out-and-out confirms their nature.



* {{Precursors}}
** NeglectfulPrecursors: Literally. See TheGodsMustBeLazy above.
* PrimalFear: BorderPatrol for the Wasteland section is CombatTentacles. Sounds like NarmCharm? Think again.

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* %%* {{Precursors}}
** NeglectfulPrecursors: Literally. See TheGodsMustBeLazy above.
* PrimalFear: BorderPatrol for the Wasteland section is CombatTentacles. Sounds like NarmCharm? silly? Think again.



* RandomEventsPlot[=/=]KudzuPlot: The story is practically impossible to sum up quickly, and the revelations made in that game raise many questions that may never be answered.



* [[RedShirt Blue Shirts]]: The Freedom Guards, who are literally Krimzon Guards painted blue.

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* [[RedShirt Blue Shirts]]: RedShirt: The Freedom Guards, who are literally Krimzon Guards painted blue.



* SwissArmyGun[=/=][[SwissArmyWeapon Weapon]]: The Morph Gun has a shotgun, a rifle, a sub-machine gun, a lightning gun, lightning-''ball'' gun, an RPG launcher, a shockwave generator, a ReflectingLaser, a drone launcher, an Anti-Gravity generator, a homing-dart gun, and a ''mini-nuke''.

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* SwissArmyGun[=/=][[SwissArmyWeapon Weapon]]: SwissArmyGun: The Morph Gun has a shotgun, a rifle, a sub-machine gun, a lightning gun, lightning-''ball'' gun, an RPG launcher, a shockwave generator, a ReflectingLaser, a drone launcher, an Anti-Gravity generator, a homing-dart gun, and a ''mini-nuke''.



* {{Terraforming}}: [[spoiler:Deconstructed. The Dark Maker's Terraformer will fix the unfinished planet, by making it completely uninhabitable to current life.]]



* ThirdPersonShooter

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* WideOpenSandbox

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1st Nov '15 9:17:21 PM nombretomado
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** One of the bonus features allows you to set up a ''RatchetAndClank'' gun course in Haven City.

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** One of the bonus features allows you to set up a ''RatchetAndClank'' ''Franchise/RatchetAndClank'' gun course in Haven City.
15th Sep '15 4:34:29 PM Psi001
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* KarmaHoudini: Considering the things he does, Veger gets off lightly.

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* KarmaHoudini: Considering Not totally, but considering the things he does, Veger gets off lightly.



* LighterAndSofter: Subtle case. The plot takes some rather dark turns from the very start, but the tone is not quite as brooding as the second game, with a larger amount of whimsy akin to the first.

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* LighterAndSofter: Subtle case. The plot takes some rather dark turns from the very start, but the tone is not quite as brooding as the second game, with a larger amount of whimsy and comedy akin to the first.
15th Sep '15 4:33:38 PM Psi001
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* LighterAndSofter: Subtle case. The plot takes some rather dark turns from the very start, but the tone is not quite as brooding as the second game, with a larger amount of whimsy and [[[spoiler: the ending reveal and the villain's comeuppance having a far more comical twist.]]

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* LighterAndSofter: Subtle case. The plot takes some rather dark turns from the very start, but the tone is not quite as brooding as the second game, with a larger amount of whimsy and [[[spoiler: akin to the ending reveal and the villain's comeuppance having a far more comical twist.]]first.
15th Sep '15 4:30:01 PM Psi001
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* LighterAndSofter: Subtle case. The plot takes some rather dark turns from the very start, but the tone is not quite as brooding as the second game, with a larger amount of whimsy and [[[spoiler: the ending reveal and the villain's comeuppance having a far more comical twist.]]
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