History VideoGame / FinalFantasyVIII

24th Aug '16 11:54:39 PM Zaptech
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* ArtisticLicensePhysics: During the Galbadia invasion arc of disc two, Rinoa is knocked from Balamb Garden and left clutching to its side for ''ten minutes'' all while the two Garden bases '''''ram into one another.''''' Miraculously, Rinoa's ironclad grip never weakens the entire time.
23rd Aug '16 12:50:22 PM JoieDeCombat
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** Well, even most global or otherwise political and military conflict, if it's not ''caused'' by it, surely ''escalates'' due to the main characters' immaturity which is especially noteworthy considering most of them are militarily trained mercenaries who should be able to put their emotions aside. This happens three times in disc one alone: when [[spoiler:Rinoa's daddy issues-fueled kidnapping attempt on President Deling gets the whole city of Timber put under martial law]], when [[spoiler:Seifer rushes to Rinoa's aid and Zell lets their provenience from Balamb Garden slip, although conflict is averted]] and, notably, when [[spoiler:Irvine's childhood memories-induced hesitation to shoot Sorceress Edea allows her to survive her assassination attempt, go on, take over a whole nation and take the war to worldwide, missle-launching proportions; that's particularly impressive, for a militarily trained gunman]]. Also, in disc three [[spoiler:Seifer's relentless and blind pursuit of his childhood dream directly causes a major cataclism to befall a whole nation, although he may or may not be totally brainwashed and thus accountable bu that point]].
23rd Aug '16 12:32:39 PM GothicNarcissus
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** Well, even most global or otherwise political and military conflict, if it's not ''caused'' by it, surely ''escalates'' due to the main characters' immaturity which is especially noteworthy considering most of them are militarily trained mercenaries who should be able to put their emotions aside. This happens three times in disc one alone: when [[spoiler:Rinoa's daddy issues-fueled kidnapping attempt on President Deling gets the whole city of Timber put under martial law]], when [[spoiler:Seifer rushes to Rinoa's aid and Zell lets their provenience from Balamb Garden slip, although conflict is averted]] and, notably, when [[spoiler:Irvine's childhood memories-induced hesitation to shoot Sorceress Edea allows her to survive her assassination attempt, go on, take over a whole nation and take the war to worldwide, missle-launching proportions; that's particularly impressive, for a militarily trained gunman]]. Also, in disc three [[spoiler:Seifer's relentless and blind pursuit of his childhood dream directly causes a major cataclism to befall a whole nation, although he may or may not be totally brainwashed and thus accountable bu that point]].
20th Aug '16 2:32:43 PM Bourne~Endeavor
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* ArtisticLicensePhysics: During the Galbadia invasion arc of disc two, Rinoa is knocked from Balamb Garden and left clutching to its side for ''ten minutes'' all while the two Garden bases '''''ram into one another.''''' Miraculously, Rinoa's ironclad grip never weakens the entire time.
12th Aug '16 4:10:24 PM Doug86
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** Zell's final weapon is quite appropriately named for a FightingGame, {{Ehrgeiz}}.

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** Zell's final weapon is quite appropriately named for a FightingGame, {{Ehrgeiz}}.VideoGame/{{Ehrgeiz}}.
6th Aug '16 4:05:26 PM Valiona
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* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler:Edea.]]

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* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler:Edea.[[spoiler:Edea after being defeated and freed from Ultimecia's possession.]]



* IdiotHero: Laguna.

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* IdiotHero: Laguna.Laguna, whose blunders range from getting lost as a result of forgetting a map to pushing his friends off a cliff before accidentally falling off himself. Squall holds nothing back after his first dream of Laguna's life.
-->'''Squall''': I dreamt I was a moron.



** The final dungeon also involves the party splitting into two groups, which the player can switch between. At a few points, players will need both parties in order to proceed, such as having one party hold a lever while another crosses a chandelier that would otherwise fall under their weight.



-->'''Rinoa''': ''(to herself)'' I'm not a SeeD, but... I can do this... This isn't some kind of game...



* OneeSama: [[spoiler:Ellone]] to Squall.

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* OneeSama: [[spoiler:Ellone]] to Squall.Squall, to whom he refers as "Sis."



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Cid.

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Cid. He's highly regarded by most of Balamb Garden, who sides with him over NORG when a civil war breaks out.
* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech:
** Xu to Seifer after his running off on his own costs him his chance at passing the exam.
-->'''Xu''': Seifer, you'll never be a [=SeeD=]. Calling yourself a captain is a joke.
** The fake President Deling gives one to Rinoa and the Forest Owls for falling for his plan.
-->'''Fake Deling''': Boo-hoo... Too bad... I'm not the president. I'm what they call...a body double. All these rumors about the many resistance groups in Timber... You pass along a little false information and they fall for it... How pathetic... Seems like there are only amateurs around here.



* RedemptionEarnsLife: [[spoiler:Raijin and Fuujin refuse to serve Seifer when they discover he is merely Ultimecia's pawn. The ending shows the three of them together, alive and well.]]

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* RedemptionEarnsLife: [[spoiler:Raijin and Fuujin refuse to serve Seifer when they discover he is merely Ultimecia's pawn.pawn, and Fujin even lets Ellone go. The ending shows the three of them together, alive and well.]]



** BadassTeacher
** FiredTeacher

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** BadassTeacher
BadassTeacher: She's not only a [=SeeD=], but has been since a younger age than most of the others.
** FiredTeacherFiredTeacher: She loses her position after the Dollet mission as a result of lacking leadership skills.


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* ViolationOfCommonSense: The Queen of Cards sidequest is advanced by losing specific rare cards to the Queen.
29th Jul '16 1:43:11 PM slvstrChung
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The eighth entry into the [[RunningGag finger-flayingly popular]] ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' series. Originally released on UsefulNotes/PlayStation and home computer, and ported to the UsefulNotes/PlayStationNetwork for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation3, PSP, and UsefulNotes/PlayStationVita. The PC version later got a UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} re-release on December 5th 2013.

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The eighth entry into the [[RunningGag finger-flayingly popular]] ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' series. Originally released on UsefulNotes/PlayStation and home computer, computer in 1999, and ported to the UsefulNotes/PlayStationNetwork for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation3, PSP, and UsefulNotes/PlayStationVita. The PC version later got a UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} re-release on December 5th 2013.



''Final Fantasy VIII'' deals with the conflict between childhood and adulthood. It examines the consequences of being forced to "grow up", and the nostalgia for an earlier and simpler past and the fear of an uncertain future that goes hand-in-hand with that. The main characters are [[ChildSoldiers teenage orphans trained as soldiers]] from a young age and taught to suppress their emotions and free will for the sake of the mission. Unfortunately, human emotion cannot be so easily repressed in minds so young, and the "save the world" story is merely a FramingDevice for a sombre ComingOfAgeStory between the main characters. On a cosmetic note, this is where ''Final Fantasy'' started to eschew the SuperDeformed characters traditionally found on {{overworld}}s and battle screens, and the tone generally feels [[SlidingScaleOfRealisticVersusFantastic more serious than before.]]

''VIII'' followed in its predecessor's footsteps for the most part, mixing swords and sorcery with a sci-fi vibe (sans FantasyGunControl). Instead of [=VII=]'s Materia system or a ManaMeter, characters now equip (or "junction") VancianMagic directly to their bodies instead of their armour. Any spell in the game can be junctioned to each character's stats using captive [[SummonMagic summoned creatures]], which means that using magic leads to stat reduction. Monsters use LevelScaling to beef up relative to the party average, making it entirely worthless to [[OneManParty level up to Lv.100]] because every enemy will get stronger to invalidate your grinding. Modern ''Final Fantasy'' games continue to tinker with the "no armor" approach, most notably ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX X]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII XIII]]''.

Triple Triad, an in-depth CardBattleGame, is another feature of ''VIII'' with many in-game uses. Though optional, mastering Triple Triad allows you to transform rare cards into [[DiscOneNuke unbelievably game-breaking items and weapon components]]. The minigame received a real-life version. It was so popular that a (somewhat simpler) SpiritualSuccessor called Tetra Master was included in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' and ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXI XI]]''. Triple Triad was also added to ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' by popular demand and it plays pretty much the same way, but without the item refinement and adding some new rules.

Starting with this game, Square took the localisation process a lot more seriously: the company hired translators (both for English and the other European languages) to work alongside the Japanese development team as the game was being created, which is now pretty much standard procedure for ''Final Fantasy'' translations.

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''Final Fantasy VIII'' deals with the conflict between childhood and adulthood. It examines the consequences of being forced to "grow up", and the nostalgia for an earlier and simpler past and the fear of an uncertain future that goes hand-in-hand with that. The main characters are [[ChildSoldiers teenage orphans trained as soldiers]] from a young age and taught to suppress their emotions and free will for the sake of the mission. Unfortunately, human emotion cannot be so easily repressed in minds so young, and the "save the world" story is merely a FramingDevice for a sombre ComingOfAgeStory between the main characters. Its other theme, the one used for marketing, is love. In addition to various couples, the bonds between parents and children are examined, as well as between friends and siblings. On a cosmetic note, this is where ''Final Fantasy'' started to eschew the SuperDeformed characters traditionally found on {{overworld}}s and battle screens, screens. Additionally, Square took the localisation process a lot more seriously: the company hired translators (both for English and the other European languages) to work alongside the Japanese development team as the game was being created, which is now pretty much standard procedure for ''Final Fantasy'' translations. Finally, the in-game technology level was similar to that of the RealLife world it was released into; characters could rent cars along with chocobos, interact on Internet posting boards, and play a CollectibleCardGame. The resulting tone is surprisingly mundane; the characters are grounded and approachable, the story generally feels [[SlidingScaleOfRealisticVersusFantastic more serious than before.]]

before,]] and the world not too different.

Ironically,
''VIII'' followed in its predecessor's footsteps for took some major liberties with gameplay. Though the most part, mixing swords and sorcery swords-and-sorcery mixed with a sci-fi vibe (sans FantasyGunControl). Instead of [=VII=]'s Materia system or a ManaMeter, characters FantasyGunControl) was not unusual, ''VIII'' did away with the ManaMeter entirely, as well as with almost all equipment options. Characters now equip (or "junction") "junction" VancianMagic directly to their bodies instead of their armour. Any spell in the game can be junctioned to each character's stats using Foremost amongst these are captive [[SummonMagic summoned creatures]], which means that using magic leads themselves unlock other junctioning options, allowing characters to stat reduction. enhance their other primary statistics. Monsters use LevelScaling to beef up relative to the party average, making it entirely worthless to [[OneManParty level up to Lv.100]] because every enemy will get stronger to invalidate your grinding. Modern ''Final Fantasy'' games continue to tinker with the "no armor" approach, most notably ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX X]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII XIII]]''.

XIII]]''. Gameplay met with a mixed reception. Some complained that that magic use led to stat reduction, as spells are stored on the person as quantified inventory; others complained that the ability to LevelGrind powerful magic, and use your summons multiple times per battle, essentially destroyed the difficulty curve.

Triple Triad, an in-depth the aforementioned CardBattleGame, is another feature of ''VIII'' with many in-game uses. Though optional, mastering Triple Triad allows you to transform rare cards into [[DiscOneNuke unbelievably game-breaking items and weapon components]]. The minigame received a real-life version. It was so popular that a (somewhat simpler) SpiritualSuccessor called Tetra Master was included in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX'' and ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXI XI]]''. Triple Triad was also added to ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' by popular demand and it plays pretty much the same way, but without the item refinement and adding some new rules.

Starting with this game, Square took
rules. It is also available on smartphones, though under the localisation process guise of a lot more seriously: the company hired translators (both for English and the other European languages) to work alongside the Japanese development team as the game was being created, which is now pretty much standard procedure for ''Final Fantasy'' translations.
separate app.



* AbsurdlyPowerfulStudentCouncil: The Balamb Garden disciplinary committee - although how much official power they actually have and how much of it is just Seifer bullying other cadets is never really clear.

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* AbsurdlyPowerfulStudentCouncil: The Balamb Garden disciplinary committee - although how much official power they actually have have, and how much of it is just Seifer bullying other cadets cadets, is never really clear.
27th May '16 9:20:44 AM CynicalBastardo
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** Vinzer Deling resembles Creator/GeorgeWBush. [[HilariousInHindsight The game came out before he became president]].


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* DifficultButAwesome: In universe, gunblades are considered this. Apparently, it takes much skill and practice to become proficient with one. Squall, Seifer and Laguna are the only ones shown to have shown ability with one, with Laguna noting that he hasn't used one since basic training. When Squall becomes a [=SeeD=], Cid notes that they finally have a gunblade specialist, implying that Squall is the first [=SeeD=] to use one. This difficulty is represented in gameplay by requiring the player to push R1 as Squall strikes for extra damage. You can set it to automatic, but manual gunblade triggering does more damage.
20th May '16 4:26:44 PM nombretomado
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The eighth entry into the [[RunningGag finger-flayingly popular]] ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' series. Originally released on PlayStation and home computer, and ported to the PlayStationNetwork for the PlayStation3, PSP, and Playstation Vita. The PC version later got a UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} re-release on December 5th 2013.

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The eighth entry into the [[RunningGag finger-flayingly popular]] ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' series. Originally released on PlayStation UsefulNotes/PlayStation and home computer, and ported to the PlayStationNetwork UsefulNotes/PlayStationNetwork for the PlayStation3, UsefulNotes/PlayStation3, PSP, and Playstation Vita.UsefulNotes/PlayStationVita. The PC version later got a UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} re-release on December 5th 2013.
14th May '16 7:09:07 PM jameygamer
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* NonStandardGameOver: Final Fantasy VIII LOVES these. There is at least one on each disc.

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* NonStandardGameOver: Final ''Final Fantasy VIII VIII'' LOVES these. There is at least one on each disc.
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