History VideoGame / DragonquestVIII

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* PanderingToTheBase: The 3DS remake allows a bonus alternate ending [[spoiler:where the hero can marry Jessica instead of Medea because fans preferred her]].
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* DrowningMySorrows: The once-great Fortuneteller Kalderasha is found in a pub, drinking hard. He eventually gets better and returns to his profession, thanks to the party and Valentina.
** King Trode immediately hits the pub once you get to Pickham.

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* DrowningMySorrows: DrowningMySorrows:
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The once-great Fortuneteller Kalderasha is found in a pub, drinking hard. He eventually gets better and returns to his profession, thanks to the party and Valentina.
** Yangus suggests they take a side-trip to [[WretchedHive Pickham]] so that the King can [[PetTheDog get a drink for once]]. King Trode immediately hits the pub once you get to Pickham.arrive.
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* ArtifactOfDoom: The Sceptre of Trodain, which is locked up in a vault in Castle Trodain, chained to every single wall in the room, in the dead center of a MagicCircle. Or, it ''was'', until Dhoulmagus stole it and unleashed Hell. [[spoiler:It's original name was the Godbird Sceptre, and it was used to seal away Rhapthorne, Lord of Darkness]].

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* ArtifactOfDoom: The Sceptre of Trodain, which is locked up in a vault in Castle Trodain, what was once the castle, chained to every single wall in the room, in the dead center of a MagicCircle.[[GeometricMagic Magic Circle]]. Or, it ''was'', until Dhoulmagus stole it and unleashed Hell. [[spoiler:It's original name was the Godbird Sceptre, and it was used to seal away Rhapthorne, Lord of Darkness]].
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* ArtifactOfDoom: The scepter Dhoulmagus takes, which King Trode keeps referring to as the "Royal Treasure" despite all the mounting evidence that it has no real market ''value''. [[spoiler:It's later revealed to be holding Rhapthorne, the ultimate evil.]]

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* ArtifactOfDoom: The scepter Sceptre of Trodain, which is locked up in a vault in Castle Trodain, chained to every single wall in the room, in the dead center of a MagicCircle. Or, it ''was'', until Dhoulmagus takes, which King Trode keeps referring to as the "Royal Treasure" despite all the mounting evidence that stole it has no real market ''value''. and unleashed Hell. [[spoiler:It's later revealed original name was the Godbird Sceptre, and it was used to be holding seal away Rhapthorne, the ultimate evil.]]Lord of Darkness]].


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** Downplayed with Castle Trodain, which is implied to have neglected its history and thus forgotten; King Trode, for example, hasn't got much of a clue about what the sceptre actually is, only that it's a great treasure ([[ArtifactOfDoom it's not]]) and it has major hocus-pocus ([[ArtifactOfDoom it does]]).
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* OutDemonsAreDifferent: One of the first things to be seen in the Dark Ruins is an imposing statue of a bewinged goatlike demon, distinctly modeled after the classic Baphomet. [[spoiler:Cameron's Codex in the 3DS version indicates it to depict a former incarnation of Rhapthorne, Lord of Darkness, which lends a little extra meaning to fight with Dhoulmagus after he goes OneWingedAngel]].

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* OutDemonsAreDifferent: OurDemonsAreDifferent: One of the first things to be seen in the Dark Ruins is an imposing statue of a bewinged goatlike demon, distinctly modeled after the classic Baphomet. [[spoiler:Cameron's Codex in the 3DS version indicates it to depict a former incarnation of Rhapthorne, Lord of Darkness, which lends a little extra meaning to fight with Dhoulmagus after he goes OneWingedAngel]].



** Everything Munchie, who is occasionally mentioned by other characters to be a very special mouse. Considering that he can use {{Breath Attack}}s that would put a dragon to shame by eating certain types of cheese, it's a fair assessment. [[spoiler:He's actually a member of an ancient species of Dragon-folk in disguise]].

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** Everything Munchie, who is occasionally mentioned by other characters to be a very special mouse. Considering that he can use {{Breath Attack}}s Weapon}}s that would put a dragon to shame by eating certain types of cheese, it's a fair assessment. [[spoiler:He's actually a member of an ancient species of Dragon-folk in disguise]].


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** She apparently gets it from her mum, who gets a solid Misty May during their reconciliation scene.
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* CutscenePowerToTheMax: For some bizarre reason, nobody ever bothers to defend themselves against the Knights Templar, even though they're just a bunch of foot soldiers.
* DeadAllAlong: The game begins with the group's arrival at Farebury to seek out Master Rylus, who can help them find a cure for the cursed king. [[spoiler:Master Rylus is not only dead, it's ''his'' house that's been burned to the ground]].
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* CentralTheme: Know and observe your duties. Continually, the game presents you with contrasts between people who faithfully follow their duties, and those who most assuredly don't. A few examples:

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* CentralTheme: Know and observe The major conflict of the game is between observing your duties. obligations and pursuing personal happiness. Continually, the game presents you with contrasts between people who faithfully follow their duties, and those who most assuredly don't.''don't''. A few examples:



** Dhoulmagus betrayed his master and ultimately killed him in his search for personal power. [[spoiler:Which wouldn't have happened if Dhoulmagus were more patient a student and Rylus less careless as a master]].

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** Dhoulmagus betrayed disobeyed his master and ultimately killed him in his search for personal power. power, and ultimately killed him. [[spoiler:Which wouldn't have happened if Dhoulmagus were more patient a student and Rylus less careless as a master]].
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* OutDevilsAreDifferent: One of the first things to be seen in the Dark Ruins is an imposing statue of a bewinged goatlike demon, distinctly modeled after the classic Baphomet. [[spoiler:Cameron's Codex in the 3DS version indicates it to depict a former incarnation of Rhapthorne, Lord of Darkness, which lends a little extra meaning to fight with Dhoulmagus after he goes OneWingedAngel]].

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* OutDevilsAreDifferent: OutDemonsAreDifferent: One of the first things to be seen in the Dark Ruins is an imposing statue of a bewinged goatlike demon, distinctly modeled after the classic Baphomet. [[spoiler:Cameron's Codex in the 3DS version indicates it to depict a former incarnation of Rhapthorne, Lord of Darkness, which lends a little extra meaning to fight with Dhoulmagus after he goes OneWingedAngel]].
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* CrutchCharacter: For the Monster Arena, Potbelly, the Potty Dragon. He is available to be recruited as soon as the player gains access to the Monster Arena, having no prerequisites before he can appear and being located on the peninsula southwest of Trodain. With having HP over 500, attack approaching 200, and over 100 defense for his base stats, he is by a large margin the strongest monster you can immediately recruit at the earliest point you can gain access to the Monster Arena. He additionally has a flame breath attack that hits the entire enemy party for up to 40 damage each, which when combined with his very high base stats, allows him to crush the first three ranks of the Monster Arena. The power of his flame breath however will quickly grow obsolete as you go up in the ranks, which when combined with his non-damaging sand attack that usually fails to affect enemies, leads to him wasting a lot of turns in later ranks. Then with HP growth during the Hero's level ups that is merely decent at best, low attack growth, and low defense growth, his statistical prowess declines sharply in later ranks, while he gets surpassed by other monsters like Hackzilla and is unable to match the powerhouses you get later in the game.
** Snap Case, the Man-Eater Chest you find near Trodain, is also one. He has pretty good base stats across the board, especially in attack, while also possessing highly valuable abilities in being able to attack twice a turn and critical hit. But with awful HP growth, and poor growth in the rest of his stats, he'll become really frail by the later ranks standards while his offensive prowess will become steadily less impressive.
** Brickman looks like he'll be this; he's one of the strongest monsters you can initially get at the point you gain access to the Monster Arena, with only the aforementioned Potbelly and Hackzilla having greater base stats. In stark contrast though to Hackzilla who has awesome growth rates alongside the hero's levelups to keep him one of the strongest monsters throughout the game, the player will notice that Brickman doesn't get any stronger at all when they level up, and that he starts lagging behind by E rank. This is subverted however when the hero's level reaches the 20s; from that point on Brickman starts "levelling up" with growths that are on par with Hackzilla's, allowing him to become viable again in the later ranks. He can additionally form the "My Three Golems" team alongside Goldman and Stoneman, where they can [[FusionDance fuse into a super Golem named Mazin]], and are capable of beating the S rank.

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* CrutchCharacter: CrutchCharacter:
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For the Monster Arena, Potbelly, the Potty Dragon. He is available to be recruited as soon as the player gains access to the Monster Arena, having no prerequisites before he can appear and being located on the peninsula southwest of Trodain. With having HP over 500, attack approaching 200, and over 100 defense for his base stats, he is by a large margin the strongest monster you can immediately recruit at the earliest point you can gain access to the Monster Arena. He additionally has a flame breath attack that hits the entire enemy party for up to 40 damage each, which when combined with his very high base stats, allows him to crush the first three ranks of the Monster Arena. The power of his flame breath however will quickly grow obsolete as you go up in the ranks, which when combined with his non-damaging sand attack that usually fails to affect enemies, leads to him wasting a lot of turns in later ranks. Then with HP growth during the Hero's level ups that is merely decent at best, low attack growth, and low defense growth, his statistical prowess declines sharply in later ranks, while he gets surpassed by other monsters like Hackzilla and is unable to match the powerhouses you get later in the game.
** *** Snap Case, the Man-Eater Chest you find near Trodain, is also one. He has pretty good base stats across the board, especially in attack, while also possessing highly valuable abilities in being able to attack twice a turn and critical hit. But with awful HP growth, and poor growth in the rest of his stats, he'll become really frail by the later ranks standards while his offensive prowess will become steadily less impressive.
** *** Brickman looks like he'll be this; he's one of the strongest monsters you can initially get at the point you gain access to the Monster Arena, with only the aforementioned Potbelly and Hackzilla having greater base stats. In stark contrast though to Hackzilla who has awesome growth rates alongside the hero's levelups to keep him one of the strongest monsters throughout the game, the player will notice that Brickman doesn't get any stronger at all when they level up, and that he starts lagging behind by E rank. This is subverted however when the hero's level reaches the 20s; from that point on Brickman starts "levelling up" with growths that are on par with Hackzilla's, allowing him to become viable again in the later ranks. He can additionally form the "My Three Golems" team alongside Goldman and Stoneman, where they can [[FusionDance fuse into a super Golem named Mazin]], and are capable of beating the S rank.
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* ArcWords:
** "Such a pity." Not merely Dhoulmagus' CatchPhrase, [[spoiler:but a symbol of Rhapthorne's disdain for futility]]. In the remake, [[spoiler: the sight of Marta's razed home causes ''Morrie'' to think of them]].
** [[UsefulNotes/BritishEnglish Cor Blimey]]! At the first end of the game, Medea herself says it to her father.

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* ArcWords:
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ArcWords: "Such a pity." Not merely Dhoulmagus' CatchPhrase, [[spoiler:but a symbol of Rhapthorne's disdain for futility]]. In the remake, [[spoiler: the sight of It actually ends up being used on accident by various heroes, [[spoiler:including Morrie, who feels it fitting after witnessing Marta's razed home causes ''Morrie'' burned to think of them]].
** [[UsefulNotes/BritishEnglish Cor Blimey]]! At
the first end of the game, ground even though he's never actually heard it before]].
* ArrangedMarriage: Princess
Medea herself says of Trodain has been betrothed from birth to Prince Charmles of Argonia because the current kings wish to fulfill a marriage that never happened between the previous generation of rulers. Ironically, even though their grandparents weren't able to MarryForLove as they wished, it becomes apparent that Medea's and Charmles' marriage would have no love lost between them in the slightest. \\
It resolves in different ways depending on which ending you've chosen. [[spoiler:In the standard ending, Medea becomes a RunawayBride
to elope with the hero, and in the original GoldenEnding, the hero is revealed to be Argonian royalty in his own right, allowing them to properly fulfill their grandparents' promise. In the new alternate ending for the 3DS, if the player decides the hero loves Jessica instead, Medea pushes him to wed the sorceress despite her father.own feelings]].



** King Clavius is the only member of the Argonian royal family to try and observe his duties to his parents and his people even as his brother abandoned the throne and his son intends to abuse it.

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** King Clavius is the only member of the Argonian royal family to try and observe his duties to his parents and his people even as his brother Eltrio abandoned the throne and his son Charmles intends to abuse it.
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