History VideoGame / DragonQuestVIII

21st Jun '17 11:17:04 AM Someoneman
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* NostalgiaFilter: The Western version of this game gets criticized by ''Dragon Quest'' purists complaining about the inclusion of voice acting; replacing the dated, Super NES-era synthesized music in the Japanese version with the orchestral score; and removing the classic battle sound effects [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks ruining the classic feel of the series]], completely ignoring the fact that this game STILL PLAYS like a classic Dragon Quest game.]]
16th Jun '17 11:00:49 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* NostalgiaFilter: The Western version of this game gets criticized by ''Dragon Quest'' purists complaining about the inclusion of voice acting; replacing the dated, Super NES-era synthesized music in the Japanese version with the orchestral score; and removing the classic battle sound effects [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks ruining the classic feel of the series]], [[CompletelyMissingThePoint completely ignoring the fact that this game STILL PLAYS like a classic Dragon Quest game.]]
* OfficialCouple: The Hero and Medea have loved each other since their childhood years but were never able to act upon it due to their own respective duties getting in the way. [[spoiler: In the good ending, the Hero runs away with Medea on her wedding day to Charmles and in the best ending, they get married instead.]]
* OneCurseLimit: Why the castle's curse did not affect [[spoiler:the Hero]] and why he cannot be cursed in battle.

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* NostalgiaFilter: The Western version of this game gets criticized by ''Dragon Quest'' purists complaining about the inclusion of voice acting; replacing the dated, Super NES-era synthesized music in the Japanese version with the orchestral score; and removing the classic battle sound effects [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks ruining the classic feel of the series]], [[CompletelyMissingThePoint completely ignoring the fact that this game STILL PLAYS like a classic Dragon Quest game.]]
* OfficialCouple: The Hero and Medea have loved each other since their childhood years but were never able to act upon it due to their own respective duties getting in the way. [[spoiler: In the good ending, the Hero runs away with Medea on her wedding day to Charmles and in the best ending, they get married instead.]]
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* OneCurseLimit: Why the castle's curse did not affect [[spoiler:the Hero]] and why he cannot be cursed in battle. The one he already has blocks the others.



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** Angelo flirts with Jessica quite a bit (and WhenAJerkLovesATsundere....)
*** At one point when Angelo is shown to be hitting on an NPC [[spoiler:during the feast at the restored Trodain Castle in the wake of Rhapthorne's defeat]], [[FunnyBackgroundEvent Jessica can be seen lining up a Frizz spell to pelt Angelo with (much to the alarm of the children she was just showing it off to)]], so it's not entirely one-sided.

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** Angelo flirts with Jessica quite a bit (and WhenAJerkLovesATsundere....)
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bit. At one point when Angelo is shown to be hitting on an NPC [[spoiler:during the feast at the restored Trodain Castle in the wake of Rhapthorne's defeat]], [[FunnyBackgroundEvent Jessica can be seen lining up a Frizz spell to pelt Angelo with (much to the alarm of the children she was just showing it off to)]], so it's not entirely one-sided.



* ShootTheDog: You do this quite literally, albeit with medieval weapons rather than firearms. The dog had it coming, though.



* UnexplainedRecovery: It's not explained in the ending just ''how'' [[spoiler:the new Lord High Priest Rolo]] survived.
** An interpretation for this is late in the game, as the party [[spoiler: escapes from Purgatory Island after being imprisoned with Rolo for one month after being wrongfully accused by Marcello for killing the Lord High Priest. They could not raise the cage lift without using the nearby lever to activate it. Rolo elected to stay behind and activate the lift. The two guards whom were knocked out so they could make their escape cornered Rolo, who accepted his fate. As the party gets off the lift when it reached the top, the chain snaps, sending the lift plummeting into the shaft. Note that Rolo and the two guards were standing in the vicinity of where the lift was. This still does not explain how Rolo got out, though.]]
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* UnexplainedRecovery: It's not explained in the ending just ''how'' [[spoiler:the new Lord High Priest Rolo]] survived.
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survived. An interpretation for this is late in the game, as the party [[spoiler: escapes from Purgatory Island after being imprisoned with Rolo for one month after being wrongfully accused by Marcello for killing the Lord High Priest. They could not raise the cage lift without using the nearby lever to activate it. Rolo elected to stay behind and activate the lift. The two guards whom were knocked out so they could make their escape cornered Rolo, who accepted his fate. As the party gets off the lift when it reached the top, the chain snaps, sending the lift plummeting into the shaft. Note that Rolo and the two guards were standing in the vicinity of where the lift was. This still does not explain how Rolo got out, though.but it's something.]]
%%* UnitsNotToScale: Actually averted.
31st May '17 10:14:45 PM TheShadow
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* LikeBrotherAndSister: If you visit the Mystical Spring near the end of the game, [[BlatantLies Medea will tell the Hero he's like a brother to her]]. This is after she told him she sees him as a man.
** This is one possible interpretation of the scene added in 3DS remake where Jessica temporarily envisions the Hero as her brother.
* LoveDodecahedron: The Hero and Princess Medea are in love with each other, but Medea is betrothed to Prince Charmles. However, [[spoiler: Jessica is also in love with the Hero and it's possible to reciprocate (as of the 3DS version), but she's engaged to Lorenzo and seems to have a thing for Angelo as well.]]
27th May '17 9:32:21 PM Eagal
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* DiscOneNuke: Use the Alchemy Pot. That is all. (Especially in the VideoGameRemake, where you no longer have to run around to "cook" the items).

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* DiscOneNuke: Use the Alchemy Pot. That is all. (Especially in the VideoGameRemake, where you no longer have to run around to "cook" the items).DiscOneNuke:


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%%** Use the Alchemy Pot.
27th May '17 9:30:59 PM Eagal
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* FiveManBand
** TheHero: [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment The Hero]]
** TheLancer / TheBigGuy: Yangus
** TheSmartGuy: Angelo
** TheChick: Jessica
** TeamPet: Munchie
*** King Trode and Princess Medea also count as {{TeamPet}}s, and Trode is on rare occasion TheMentor.
26th May '17 6:00:12 PM Tavernier
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** It's played with by King Trode, [[spoilered:whose reward for helping to save the world is to regain his human form... which is just as ugly as his monster form]].

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** It's played with by King Trode, [[spoilered:whose [[spoiler:whose reward for helping to save the world is to regain his human form... which is just as ugly as his monster form]].
26th May '17 5:59:27 PM Tavernier
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* BeautyEqualsGoodness:
** Played straight with Princess Medea (who ''is'' beautiful) and Prince Charmles (who's a squinting BeadyEyedLoser too fat to wear anything properly).
** Inverted with Yangus, who's a serious case of StoutStrength, but who had his HiddenHeartOfGold uncovered before the game begins.
** It's played with by King Trode, [[spoilered:whose reward for helping to save the world is to regain his human form... which is just as ugly as his monster form]].
26th May '17 11:13:03 AM Tavernier
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* BreakTheHaughty: The haughty in this game ''exist'' [[AnAesop to be broken]]. Dominico, who abuses his absolutely loyal manservant David? Broken. King Trode, who's egotism makes him think the quest is [[ItsAllAboutMe AllAboutMe]]? Broken. Various officials of the CorruptChurch? Broken.

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* BreakTheHaughty: The haughty in this game ''exist'' [[AnAesop to be broken]]. Dominico, who abuses his absolutely loyal manservant David? Broken. King Trode, who's egotism makes him think the quest is [[ItsAllAboutMe AllAboutMe]]? All About Me]]? Broken. Various officials of the CorruptChurch? Broken.
26th May '17 11:12:29 AM Tavernier
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* BreakTheHaughty: The haughty in this game ''exist'' [[AnAesop to be broken]]. Dominico, who abuses his absolutely loyal manservant David? Broken. King Trode, who's egotism makes him think the quest is AllAboutMe? Broken. Various officials of the CorruptChurch? Broken.

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* BreakTheHaughty: The haughty in this game ''exist'' [[AnAesop to be broken]]. Dominico, who abuses his absolutely loyal manservant David? Broken. King Trode, who's egotism makes him think the quest is AllAboutMe? [[ItsAllAboutMe AllAboutMe]]? Broken. Various officials of the CorruptChurch? Broken.
26th May '17 11:12:01 AM Tavernier
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* BrutalBonusLevel: In the 3DS version, [[spoiler:the Monster Arena's X Rank. Every monster has around 800 HP, they all will dish out well over a hundred damage with their attacks, about half of them can crit, others can inflict statuses that will end your run if they proc, and the final match will exploit the hell out of your monster's targeting AI, to get them stuck in an endless loop of repeatedly targeting a monster that can be endlessly revived when it dies. There's an extremely shallow pool of monsters remotely viable for the rank, that will pretty much require the hero to be at postgame levels for his monsters to be strong enough to win, and even then it's a huge gamble on if so many things will go right for you to win it. Trying to clear the X Rank is RNG hell.]]

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* BrutalBonusLevel: In the The 3DS version, [[spoiler:the Monster Arena's X Rank.version adds two.
** The MonsterArena has an extra level, Rank X.
Every monster has around 800 HP, they all will dish out well over a hundred damage with their attacks, about half of them can crit, others can inflict statuses that will end your run if they proc, and the final match will exploit the hell out of your monster's targeting AI, to get them stuck in an endless loop of repeatedly targeting a monster that can be endlessly revived when it dies. There's an extremely shallow pool of monsters remotely viable for the rank, that will pretty much require the hero to be at postgame levels for his monsters to be strong enough to win, and even then it's a huge gamble on if so many things will go right for you to win it. Trying to clear the X Rank is RNG hell.]]hell.
** Memories Lane, which is a BossRush "training ground" you can gain access to by beating the BonusBoss of the Dragovian Sanctuary. Not only will you have to fight all your favorite bosses with souped up stats, many of them will have extra skills, more inventive ways to cripple you, go more often in a single turn, and increased critical hit rates, and the difficulty curve is huge -- you can probably squeak past the first few bosses while your levels are in the fifties, but many aren't able to handle the last few until they're in the nineties.
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