21st Jan '18 10:18:41 AM Etheru
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* AmbiguousTimePeriod: The games are fairly vague on exactly when they take place, but ''II'' has an oddly "[[TheFifties Fifties]]" vibe, with the design of Mike Dawson's mother and Jack's [[Series/HappyDays Fonzie]]-like shtick, along with the prominence of a carnival in the games plot.
4th Jan '18 6:06:23 AM Enhas
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** Two notable instances in the second game. Upon your first visit to the Dark World, [[spoiler:you are in effect given an extra life by the death of the Keeper of the Light. If you die before getting the data card you are revived, but stuck because you ''have'' to die to exit after getting the data card, and without the extra life at that point you get a game over.]] The second is [[spoiler:making the wrong call in the phone booth outside the Sheriff's office, much later into the game. The correct thing to do is call him to lure him away, and there are several wrong options. You only get one coin, so making the wrong choice gets you stuck forever with no way to progress.]]
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** Two A notable instances instance in the second game. Upon your first visit to the Dark World, [[spoiler:you are in effect given an extra life by the death of the Keeper of the Light. If you die before getting the data card you are revived, but stuck because you ''have'' to die to exit after getting the data card, and without the extra life at that point you get a game over.]] The second is [[spoiler:making the wrong call in the phone booth outside the Sheriff's office, much later into the game. The correct thing to do is call him to lure him away, and there are several wrong options. You only get one coin, so making the wrong choice gets you stuck forever with no way to progress.]]
24th Nov '16 4:49:12 PM GoombasAreGods
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* DullSurprise: The CD version of the first game added voice acting, leading to Mike narrating everything in the same nonchalant voice, from washing up in the morning to wandering around a DarkWorld full of monsters.
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* DullSurprise: DullSurprise:
** The CD version of the first game added voice acting, leading to Mike narrating everything in the same nonchalant voice, from washing up in the morning to wandering around a DarkWorld full ofmonsters.monsters.
** Mike also has his moments in ''II'', notably when talking to [[spoiler: Paul, who is dying in his arms.]] He asks him a series of questions in the same vaguely curious tone he normally uses.
** Rita's "scream of terror" as she falls to her death comes more across as someone going “Ahhhhhh” in a very bored tone.
** The CD version of the first game added voice acting, leading to Mike narrating everything in the same nonchalant voice, from washing up in the morning to wandering around a DarkWorld full of
** Mike also has his moments in ''II'', notably when talking to [[spoiler: Paul, who is dying in his arms.]] He asks him a series of questions in the same vaguely curious tone he normally uses.
** Rita's "scream of terror" as she falls to her death comes more across as someone going “Ahhhhhh” in a very bored tone.
2nd May '16 12:38:51 PM supergod
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** He has to use DarkWorld gadgets to win ''carnival games''. To be fair, the Wheel of Fortune might have been rigged, but there's still no excuse for the shooting gallery and the ring toss.
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** He has to use DarkWorld gadgets to win ''carnival games''. To be fair, the Wheel of Fortune might have been rigged, but there's still no excuse for the indication shooting gallery and the ring toss.toss were.
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* InsurmountableWaistHighFence: While not a physical barrier, nearly a third of ''Dark Seed II'''s gameplay is driven by Mike Dawson being unable to legitimately win simple carnival games, forcing him to find ways of cheating at all of them.
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* InsurmountableWaistHighFence: While not a physical barrier, nearly a third of ''Dark Seed II'''s gameplay is driven by Mike Dawson being unable to legitimately win simple at carnival games, forcing him to find ways of cheating at all of them.
2nd May '16 12:33:09 PM supergod
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*** To be fair though, both of these games are also [[http://www.aarp.org/money/scams-fraud/info-07-2012/rigged-carnival-games.html pretty notorious]] for being rigged, moreso than the Wheel of Fortune game, so Mike might not actually be at fault for this.
2nd May '16 11:34:33 AM IAMELIPHAS
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*** To be fair though, both of these games are also [[http://www.aarp.org/money/scams-fraud/info-07-2012/rigged-carnival-games.html pretty notorious]] for being rigged, moreso than the Wheel of Fortune game, so mike not
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*** To be fair though, both of these games are also [[http://www.aarp.org/money/scams-fraud/info-07-2012/rigged-carnival-games.html pretty notorious]] for being rigged, moreso than the Wheel of Fortune game, so mike Mike might not actually be at fault for this.
2nd May '16 11:09:19 AM IAMELIPHAS
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*** To be fair though, both of these games are also [[http://www.aarp.org/money/scams-fraud/info-07-2012/rigged-carnival-games.html pretty notorious]] for being rigged, moreso than the Wheel of Fortune game, so mike not
22nd Dec '15 1:02:11 PM Shadoboy
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* StopPokingMe: In ''Dark Seed II'', repeatedly talking to characters without advancing the plot will cause them to get annoyed with you.
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* StopPokingMe: In ''Dark Seed II'', repeatedly talking to characters without advancing the plot will cause them to get annoyed with you. And you don't want to annoy the Dark Worlders who have guns...
15th Nov '15 10:42:16 AM MrLavisherMoot
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* AffablyEvil: [[spoiler:Paul]] in Dark Seed II.
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* AffablyEvil: [[spoiler:Paul]] in Dark ''Dark Seed II.II''.
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* AlmostDeadGuy: [[spoiler:In Dark Seed II, Paul gives tons of exposition as he dies.]]
* AndThenJohnWasAZombie: [[spoiler:Occurs in Dark Seed II]].
* AndThenJohnWasAZombie: [[spoiler:Occurs in Dark Seed II]].
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* AlmostDeadGuy: [[spoiler:In Dark ''Dark Seed II, II'', Paul gives tons of exposition as he dies.]]
* AndThenJohnWasAZombie: [[spoiler:Occurs inDark ''Dark Seed II]].II'']].
* AndThenJohnWasAZombie: [[spoiler:Occurs in
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* ClassicalAntihero: In Dark Seed II, Mike Dawson becomes one; a whiny, cowardly manchild, whom nobody (in-universe) seems to like.
* ConvenientComa: In ''Dark Seed II'', Jimmy Gardner gets put into a coma when Jack punches him.]]
* ConvenientComa: In ''Dark Seed II'', Jimmy Gardner gets put into a coma when Jack punches him.]]
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* ClassicalAntihero: In Dark ''Dark Seed II, II'', Mike Dawson becomes one; a whiny, cowardly manchild, whom nobody (in-universe) seems to like.
* ConvenientComa: In ''Dark Seed II'', Jimmy Gardner gets put into a coma when Jack punches him.]]
* ConvenientComa: In ''Dark Seed II'', Jimmy Gardner gets put into a coma when Jack punches him.
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* CrapsackWorld: Dark Seed II. [[spoiler: Both of the worlds.]]
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* CrapsackWorld: Dark ''Dark Seed II.II''. [[spoiler: Both of the worlds.]]
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* CutsceneBoss [[spoiler:In Dark Seed II, the Behemoth is killed by Mike in an extremely flashy cutscene.]]
* DarkerAndEdgier: Dark Seed, despite its dark art, was not that ''dark'' and had a HappyEnding, where good defeats evil. Dark Seed II, on the other hand... [[spoiler:not only killed humans off, unlike its predecessor, but had a high death count and a total DownerEnding.]]
* DarkerAndEdgier: Dark Seed, despite its dark art, was not that ''dark'' and had a HappyEnding, where good defeats evil. Dark Seed II, on the other hand... [[spoiler:not only killed humans off, unlike its predecessor, but had a high death count and a total DownerEnding.]]
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* CutsceneBoss [[spoiler:In Dark ''Dark Seed II, II'', the Behemoth is killed by Mike in an extremely flashy cutscene.]]
* DarkerAndEdgier:Dark Seed, ''Dark Seed'', despite its dark art, was not that ''dark'' and had a HappyEnding, where good defeats evil. Dark ''Dark Seed II, II'', on the other hand... [[spoiler:not only killed humans off, unlike its predecessor, but had a high death count and a total DownerEnding.]]
* DarkerAndEdgier:
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* DerangedAnimation: The digitized characters in Dark Seed II.
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* DerangedAnimation: The digitized characters in Dark ''Dark Seed II.II''.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Attempted in Dark Seed II: Jack only appears every now and then to talk or help out and then leaves as abruptly as he showed up. [[spoiler:The only time he interacts with the other characters is when he punches out Jimmy, which only Slim and Mike witnessed and the former claims it was actually ''Mike'' who punched him. Later on this indicates him as the Shapeshifter as several characters tell Mike about the Shapeshifter's ability to temporarily come into the Regular world.]]
** [[spoiler: Mike's first nightmare in Dark Seed II ends with him seeing a reflection of himself turning into the Shapeshifter. And then later you realize that everyone in the game's regular world has a Dark World counterpart - except for Mike himself... and Jack.]]
** [[spoiler: Mike's first nightmare in Dark Seed II ends with him seeing a reflection of himself turning into the Shapeshifter. And then later you realize that everyone in the game's regular world has a Dark World counterpart - except for Mike himself... and Jack.]]
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Attempted in Dark ''Dark Seed II: II'': Jack only appears every now and then to talk or help out and then leaves as abruptly as he showed up. [[spoiler:The only time he interacts with the other characters is when he punches out Jimmy, which only Slim and Mike witnessed and the former claims it was actually ''Mike'' who punched him. Later on this indicates him as the Shapeshifter as several characters tell Mike about the Shapeshifter's ability to temporarily come into the Regular world.]]
** [[spoiler: Mike's first nightmare inDark ''Dark Seed II II'' ends with him seeing a reflection of himself turning into the Shapeshifter. And then later you realize that everyone in the game's regular world has a Dark World counterpart - except for Mike himself... and Jack.]]
** [[spoiler: Mike's first nightmare in
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*** [[spoiler:Or the events of the first Dark Seed actually ''did'' happen, but he lost his mind after the traumatic events of the first game.]]
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*** [[spoiler:Or the events of the first Dark Seed ''Dark Seed'' actually ''did'' happen, but he lost his mind after the traumatic events of the first game.]]
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* InsurmountableWaistHighFence: While not a physical barrier, nearly a third of Dark Seed II's gameplay is driven by Mike Dawson being unable to legitimately win simple carnival games, forcing him to find ways of cheating at all of them.
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* InsurmountableWaistHighFence: While not a physical barrier, nearly a third of Dark ''Dark Seed II's II'''s gameplay is driven by Mike Dawson being unable to legitimately win simple carnival games, forcing him to find ways of cheating at all of them.
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* LoserProtagonist: In Dark Seed II, almost everyone hates Mike Dawson, and a large portion of his quest is ''figuring out how to cheat at carnival games.'' He never even had enough sense to [[spoiler:attempt to open a closet that he believed to be locked in his room before he gets a flashback vision revealing that his mother had been lying to him about it the entire time.]]
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* LoserProtagonist: In Dark ''Dark Seed II, II'', almost everyone hates Mike Dawson, and a large portion of his quest is ''figuring out how to cheat at carnival games.'' He never even had enough sense to [[spoiler:attempt to open a closet that he believed to be locked in his room before he gets a flashback vision revealing that his mother had been lying to him about it the entire time.]]
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* NonIronicClown: The clown at the entrance to the carnival in Dark Seed II, though grouchy, doesn't seem to be evil or creepy in any way. This is in contrast to the rest of the carnival itself, which prominently features Giger art in the attractions.
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* NonIronicClown: The clown at the entrance to the carnival in Dark ''Dark Seed II, II'', though grouchy, doesn't seem to be evil or creepy in any way. This is in contrast to the rest of the carnival itself, which prominently features Giger art in the attractions.
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* SequelEscalation: Dark Seed was a simple little game that you could complete in about an hour, [[GuideDangIt if you knew exactly what to do]]. Dark Seed II on the other hand...
* SequelHook: [[spoiler:Dark Seed II ends with Jack ominously implying that the Ancients will make a third attempt to conquer the world. An especially odd example because by that point the Ancients are ''all dead''.]]
* SequelHook: [[spoiler:Dark Seed II ends with Jack ominously implying that the Ancients will make a third attempt to conquer the world. An especially odd example because by that point the Ancients are ''all dead''.]]
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* SequelEscalation: Dark Seed ''Dark Seed'' was a simple little game that you could complete in about an hour, [[GuideDangIt if you knew exactly what to do]]. Dark ''Dark Seed II II'' on the other hand...
* SequelHook:[[spoiler:Dark [[spoiler:''Dark Seed II II'' ends with Jack ominously implying that the Ancients will make a third attempt to conquer the world. An especially odd example because by that point the Ancients are ''all dead''.]]
* SequelHook:
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* SleepsWithEveryoneButYou: By the end of Dark Seed II, Mike discovers [[spoiler: almost everyone in town had been getting some from [[ReallyGetsAround Rita]]... except for [[ButtMonkey Mike himself.]]]]
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* SleepsWithEveryoneButYou: By the end of Dark ''Dark Seed II, II'', Mike discovers [[spoiler: almost everyone in town had been getting some from [[ReallyGetsAround Rita]]... except for [[ButtMonkey Mike himself.]]]]
3rd Oct '15 2:59:09 PM GreatWyrmGold
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* PortalPicture: Averted; There are paintings on the wall similar to the dark world, but the object used for teleportation is a mirror.
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