History VideoGame / CommandAndConquerRedAlertSeries

16th May '17 9:27:19 AM nombretomado
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* IdiotBall: The Western Allies in the RA verse apparently decided that rather than, say, occupying, disarming, dismantling, and forcibly reforming the old Soviet Empire and its satellites after defeating them in the bloodiest war mankind had seen at the time, it would be better to reconstitute it, place [[DirtyCommunists Alexei]] [[TsaristRussia Romanov]] in the Kremlin, and then back off while ignoring Soviet rearmament and moves to reconstruct the old Stalinist alliances. [[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong What could possibly go wrong]]? To be fair, we more or less made the same mistake in our own history with Germany after UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, and we know what [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII happened then]]. Considering the RA-verse Allies wouldn't have that same template, this may be [[JustifiedTrope justified]].

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* IdiotBall: The Western Allies in the RA verse apparently decided that rather than, say, occupying, disarming, dismantling, and forcibly reforming the old Soviet Empire and its satellites after defeating them in the bloodiest war mankind had seen at the time, it would be better to reconstitute it, place [[DirtyCommunists Alexei]] [[TsaristRussia [[UsefulNotes/TsaristRussia Romanov]] in the Kremlin, and then back off while ignoring Soviet rearmament and moves to reconstruct the old Stalinist alliances. [[WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong What could possibly go wrong]]? To be fair, we more or less made the same mistake in our own history with Germany after UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, and we know what [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII happened then]]. Considering the RA-verse Allies wouldn't have that same template, this may be [[JustifiedTrope justified]].
10th Apr '17 12:41:41 AM Theharbo
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* TelsaTechTimeline: Tesla himself is never mentioned, nor shown, but boy do the Soviets love to use Tesla coil-like weapons and inventions.
** Tesla coils show up in all the alternate timelines of ''Videogame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert'' - not as transformers, but as the SovietUnion's advanced base defences.
** [[Videogame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert2 The second game]] has a Soviet mission which involves turning the Eiffel tower into a giant tesla coil to defend against enemies.
** [[Videogame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert3 The third game's events]] are caused by the soviets travelling back in time to assassinate AlbertEinstein. Their time machine is basically a cockpit surrounded by tesla coils, and that's before you get into the spider-legged speedboat with tesla coils for weapons.
15th Feb '17 7:11:42 PM Willbyr
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26th Jan '17 12:47:18 PM Statzkeen
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** A bigger case is the Empire of the Rising Sun in [=RA=] 3, who are clearly modeled after [[UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan Imperialist Japan]], which in real life was infamous for its war crimes, which include pointless mass murders by the hundreds of thousands, enslavement of tens of thousands of women as sex slaves, and performing medical experiments on prisoners from their colonies that killed thousands of people. Even the whole honor aspect that's presented as a joke in the game was a scary thing in real life; they considered surrender dishonorable and would execute or use enemies who surrendered as slave labor, and fed their civilians propaganda about the Allies that drove them to commit suicide by the tens of thousands when America invaded the Japanese home islands. All of these thing are of course never brought up in the game and the Empire is simply presented as an over-the-top comedic organization, though interestingly it is brought up in an in-progress mod called ''VideoGame/RedAlert3Paradox'' where in the mod's version of [=RA=] 3 events, [[MoralEventHorizon the Empire butchered a major Soviet city]].

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** A bigger case is the Empire of the Rising Sun in [=RA=] 3, who are clearly modeled after [[UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan Imperialist Japan]], which in real life was infamous for its war crimes, which include pointless mass murders by the hundreds of thousands, enslavement of tens of thousands of women as sex slaves, and performing medical experiments on prisoners from their colonies that killed thousands of people. Even the whole honor aspect that's presented as a joke in the game was a scary thing in real life; they considered surrender dishonorable and would execute or use enemies who surrendered as slave labor, and fed their civilians propaganda about the Allies that drove them to commit suicide by the tens of thousands when America invaded the Japanese home their outlying islands. All of these thing are of course never brought up in the game and the Empire is simply presented as an over-the-top comedic organization, though interestingly it is brought up in an in-progress mod called ''VideoGame/RedAlert3Paradox'' where in the mod's version of [=RA=] 3 events, [[MoralEventHorizon the Empire butchered a major Soviet city]].
26th Jan '17 12:44:54 PM Statzkeen
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* GratuitousRussian: While the intro cutscene in the first game contains fairly accurate German [[note]][[ArtisticLicenseHistory well, if you exclude the fact that Shickelgruber didn't adopted the alias "Hitler" at that time, and even that doesn't make the dialogue less accurate to the language]][[/note]], the Russian text is relatively or [[{{Egregious}} straight]] gibberish, not to mention this trope goes all the way through the series.

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* GratuitousRussian: While the intro cutscene in the first game contains fairly accurate German [[note]][[ArtisticLicenseHistory well, if you exclude the fact that Shickelgruber didn't adopted the alias "Hitler" at that time, and even that doesn't make the dialogue less accurate to the language]][[/note]], German, the Russian text is relatively or [[{{Egregious}} straight]] gibberish, not to mention this trope goes all the way through the series.
26th Jan '17 12:42:24 PM Statzkeen
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* {{Camp}} - So much of it. ''Red Alert 1'' was pretty serious, but the camp set in with ''Red Alert 2'', based off cheesy RedScare movies from the 1950s. ''Red Alert 3'' took it even further - it is pretty much the Creator/AdamWest ''Series/{{Batman}}'' of the RealTimeStrategy world.

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* {{Camp}} - So much of it. ''Red Alert 1'' was pretty serious, but the camp set in with ''Red Alert 2'', based off cheesy RedScare movies from the 1950s. 1950s, although the overall tone was still fairly believable outside of some of the fantastic tech. ''Red Alert 3'' took it even further and cartoonier - it is pretty much the Creator/AdamWest ''Series/{{Batman}}'' of the RealTimeStrategy world.



* DenserAndWackier: ''Red Alert 1'' didn't had much camp to begin with, and ''[=2=]'' keeps some seriousness while introducing [=GIs=] that talk in almost the same voice as the famous [[VideoGame/FatalFury Terry]] [[VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters Bogard]], [[{{Eagleland}} the USA as the rest of the world may probably remember it]], the all-communistic Soviet Union units and their buildings loosely based off Saint Basile's Cathedral, and that's not counting Yuri himself [[note]]Who, in fact, due to his psyonic abilities, could be easily purged out from the actual Soviet Russia.[[/note]]. And then ''3'' shows up, complete with the [[BearsAreBadNews armor-equipped bears]] and [[DarkActionGirl a Japanese schoolgirl whose mind could easily kick Yuri's ass]], if he was still around...

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* DenserAndWackier: ''Red Alert 1'' didn't had have much camp to begin with, and ''[=2=]'' keeps some seriousness while introducing [=GIs=] that talk in almost the same voice as the famous [[VideoGame/FatalFury Terry]] [[VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters Bogard]], [[{{Eagleland}} the USA as the rest of the world may probably remember it]], the all-communistic Soviet Union units and their buildings loosely based off Saint Basile's Cathedral, and that's not counting Yuri himself [[note]]Who, in fact, due to his psyonic abilities, could be easily purged out from the actual Soviet Russia.[[/note]]. And then ''3'' shows up, complete with the [[BearsAreBadNews armor-equipped bears]] and [[DarkActionGirl a Japanese schoolgirl whose mind could easily kick Yuri's ass]], if he was still around...
16th Jan '17 12:12:36 PM Morgenthaler
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** A bigger case is the Empire of the Rising Sun in [=RA=] 3, who are clearly modeled after [[ImperialJapan Imperialist Japan]], which in real life was infamous for its war crimes, which include pointless mass murders by the hundreds of thousands, enslavement of tens of thousands of women as sex slaves, and performing medical experiments on prisoners from their colonies that killed thousands of people. Even the whole honor aspect that's presented as a joke in the game was a scary thing in real life; they considered surrender dishonorable and would execute or use enemies who surrendered as slave labor, and fed their civilians propaganda about the Allies that drove them to commit suicide by the tens of thousands when America invaded the Japanese home islands. All of these thing are of course never brought up in the game and the Empire is simply presented as an over-the-top comedic organization, though interestingly it is brought up in an in-progress mod called ''VideoGame/RedAlert3Paradox'' where in the mod's version of [=RA=] 3 events, [[MoralEventHorizon the Empire butchered a major Soviet city]].

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** A bigger case is the Empire of the Rising Sun in [=RA=] 3, who are clearly modeled after [[ImperialJapan [[UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan Imperialist Japan]], which in real life was infamous for its war crimes, which include pointless mass murders by the hundreds of thousands, enslavement of tens of thousands of women as sex slaves, and performing medical experiments on prisoners from their colonies that killed thousands of people. Even the whole honor aspect that's presented as a joke in the game was a scary thing in real life; they considered surrender dishonorable and would execute or use enemies who surrendered as slave labor, and fed their civilians propaganda about the Allies that drove them to commit suicide by the tens of thousands when America invaded the Japanese home islands. All of these thing are of course never brought up in the game and the Empire is simply presented as an over-the-top comedic organization, though interestingly it is brought up in an in-progress mod called ''VideoGame/RedAlert3Paradox'' where in the mod's version of [=RA=] 3 events, [[MoralEventHorizon the Empire butchered a major Soviet city]].
8th Dec '16 7:00:42 PM Xtifr
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The premise of '''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert Red Alert]]''' (Westwood Studios, 1996) is simple: in 1946, operating out of a laboratory in Trinity, New Mexico, UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein uses a time machine to travel to Landsberg, Germany in 1924 and removes UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler from history. While this prevents the [[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany Nazis]] from rising to power and keeps Germany docile, unfortunately it leaves UsefulNotes/JosefStalin with no obstacle to the Soviet Union's expansion. This sparks an even worse version of UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo during the 1950's as the Allies try to withstand the endless hordes of the Red Army, backed by deadly Tesla-based technology. But thanks to Einsteinís chronosphere and [[NonEntityGeneral one nameless European commander]], the Soviets are defeated.

'''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert2 Red Alert 2]]''' (Westwood Studios, 2000) is set during the 70's, when the supposed puppet-Premier of the USSR leads a world communist alliance in a surprise invasion of the United States, with the help of the mindbending psychic Yuri. Though once more the Allies rally to win the war, Yuri has his own plans and steals a time machine in an attempt to conquer the past. He's thwarted, but the time travel shenanigans aren't finished.

In '''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert3 Red Alert 3]]''' (Electronic Arts, 2008) Soviet scientists conclude that the Allies keep winning due to possessing Albert Einstein's technology, and so they build their own time machine to [[HoistByHisOwnPetard remove the physicist from history]]. This has the unintended side-effect of allowing a third faction to emerge, the Japan-based Empire of the Rising Sun. By the 1980's all three powers struggle once more for dominance, using some of the most insane arsenals ever imagined. And to make things [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking more over-the-top]], Creator/TimCurry is the Premier of the USSR.

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The premise of '''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert ''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert Red Alert]]''' Alert]]'' (Westwood Studios, 1996) is simple: in 1946, operating out of a laboratory in Trinity, New Mexico, UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein uses a time machine to travel to Landsberg, Germany in 1924 and removes UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler from history. While this prevents the [[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany Nazis]] from rising to power and keeps Germany docile, unfortunately it leaves UsefulNotes/JosefStalin with no obstacle to the Soviet Union's expansion. This sparks an even worse version of UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo during the 1950's as the Allies try to withstand the endless hordes of the Red Army, backed by deadly Tesla-based technology. But thanks to Einsteinís chronosphere and [[NonEntityGeneral one nameless European commander]], the Soviets are defeated.

'''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert2 ''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert2 Red Alert 2]]''' 2]]'' (Westwood Studios, 2000) is set during the 70's, when the supposed puppet-Premier of the USSR leads a world communist alliance in a surprise invasion of the United States, with the help of the mindbending psychic Yuri. Though once more the Allies rally to win the war, Yuri has his own plans and steals a time machine in an attempt to conquer the past. He's thwarted, but the time travel shenanigans aren't finished.

In '''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert3 ''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert3 Red Alert 3]]''' 3]]'' (Electronic Arts, 2008) Soviet scientists conclude that the Allies keep winning due to possessing Albert Einstein's technology, and so they build their own time machine to [[HoistByHisOwnPetard remove the physicist from history]]. This has the unintended side-effect of allowing a third faction to emerge, the Japan-based Empire of the Rising Sun. By the 1980's all three powers struggle once more for dominance, using some of the most insane arsenals ever imagined. And to make things [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking more over-the-top]], Creator/TimCurry is the Premier of the USSR.
21st Oct '16 10:12:13 AM Morgenthaler
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The premise of '''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert Red Alert]]''' (Westwood Studios, 1996) is simple: in 1946, operating out of a laboratory in Trinity, New Mexico, UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein uses a time machine to travel to Landsberg, Germany in 1924 and removes UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler from history. While this prevents the [[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany Nazis]] from rising to power and keeps Germany docile, unfortunately it leaves JosefStalin with no obstacle to the Soviet Unionís expansion. This sparks an even worse version of UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo during the 1950's as the Allies try to withstand the endless hordes of the Red Army, backed by deadly Tesla-based technology. But thanks to Einsteinís chronosphere and [[NonEntityGeneral one nameless European commander]], the Soviets are defeated.

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The premise of '''[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert Red Alert]]''' (Westwood Studios, 1996) is simple: in 1946, operating out of a laboratory in Trinity, New Mexico, UsefulNotes/AlbertEinstein uses a time machine to travel to Landsberg, Germany in 1924 and removes UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler from history. While this prevents the [[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany Nazis]] from rising to power and keeps Germany docile, unfortunately it leaves JosefStalin UsefulNotes/JosefStalin with no obstacle to the Soviet Unionís Union's expansion. This sparks an even worse version of UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo during the 1950's as the Allies try to withstand the endless hordes of the Red Army, backed by deadly Tesla-based technology. But thanks to Einsteinís chronosphere and [[NonEntityGeneral one nameless European commander]], the Soviets are defeated.
12th Sep '16 11:34:14 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheEmpire: The Soviet Union (especially under Stalin, & more literally under [[TsaristRussia Romanov]]) and the Empire of the Rising Sun.

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* TheEmpire: The Soviet Union (especially under Stalin, & more literally under [[TsaristRussia [[UsefulNotes/TsaristRussia Romanov]]) and the Empire of the Rising Sun.
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