History VideoGame / BreathOfFireII

11th Feb '17 2:23:21 PM mlsmithca
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* InformedDeformity: It would make a lot more sense if Nina's black wings were actually... You know, black. This might be explained by 1)
with the 8-Bit engine, if they really were black, they'd likely just look like a shadow following her, and 2) you meet Nina around the same time you meet Patty, so the colour change was so you wouldn't mistake one for the other.

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* InformedDeformity: It would make a lot more sense if Nina's black wings were actually... You know, black. This might be explained by 1)
1) with the 8-Bit engine, if they really were black, they'd likely just look like a shadow following her, and 2) you meet Nina around the same time you meet Patty, so the colour change was so you wouldn't mistake one for the other.
30th Jan '17 10:17:07 PM dragonheart1986
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* WakeUpCallBoss: Augus. He gets two turns every round, and one of his actions is to charge up his next attack to do extra damage. Charging up then attacking in the same round will [[OneHitKill one-shot]] Katt even at full health (and Ryu and Rand if they're not pretty close to full health). Oh, and he can heal himself.

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* WakeUpCallBoss: Augus. He gets two turns every round, and one of his actions is to charge up his next attack to do extra damage. Charging up then attacking in the same round will [[OneHitKill one-shot]] Katt even at full health (and Ryu and Rand if they're not pretty close to full health). Oh, and he can heal himself. It's also worth mentioning that charging up his attack doesn't guarantee he won't also get a critical. If he happens to get a critical on his charged attack, it'll easily one-shot even Rand.
30th Jan '17 9:44:36 PM Diesel
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* AmericanKirbyIsHardcore: The page picture is the original Japanese box art. North America got something close to what one would find in ''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian''. In short, [[http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/0/563530_29076_front.jpg Bow looks like he wants to chew you... with the rest of the crew trying to do the same to you.]]

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* AmericanKirbyIsHardcore: The page picture is the original Japanese box art. North America got something close to what one would find in ''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian''. In short, [[http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/0/563530_29076_front.[[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Breathoffire2_box.jpg Bow looks like he wants to chew you... with the rest of the crew trying to do the same to you.]]
23rd Dec '16 1:50:08 PM Gosicrystal
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* [[AbsurdlySpaciousSewer Absurdly Spacious Toilet]]

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* [[AbsurdlySpaciousSewer Absurdly Spacious Toilet]]%%* AbsurdlySpaciousSewer: The toilet.



* AnyoneCanDie: [[spoiler: Particularly if you're in the Church of Saint Eva. Tiga, Claris, Ray, Rand's mother, and potentially Ganer all bite it in that area.]]
* ApatheticCitizens: Two flavors.
** First: The citizens of [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Fantasy Counterpart Amphibian France]] Sima Fort on the whole can tell that the person claiming to be prince Jean is an impostor bent on stealing the throne. They also on the whole care a great deal more about [[FrenchCuisineIsHaughty haute cuisine]] and pursuing their various artistic passions than they do about the ongoing coup d'etat. See {{Cloudcuckooland}}, below.

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* AnyoneCanDie: [[spoiler: Particularly [[spoiler:Particularly if you're in the Church of Saint Eva. Tiga, Claris, Ray, Rand's mother, and potentially Ganer all bite it in that area.]]
* ApatheticCitizens: Two flavors.
flavors:
** First: The citizens of [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Fantasy Counterpart Amphibian France]] Sima Fort on the whole can tell that the person claiming to be prince Jean is an impostor bent on stealing the throne. They also on the whole care a great deal more about [[FrenchCuisineIsHaughty haute cuisine]] and pursuing their various artistic passions than they do about the ongoing coup d'etat. See {{Cloudcuckooland}}, below.



* BadassPreacher: Ray.

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* %%* BadassPreacher: Ray.



* BigBad: Deathevan.

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* %%* BigBad: Deathevan.



* BlindIdiotTranslation: A famous exponent, to boot; this game came as close to a TranslationTrainWreck as is possible without becoming totally incoherent.
** Led to the ''extremely'' well-done d4s German FanTranslation (complete with the GBA gameplay tweaks added into the SNES game and a new intro that makes great use of original game art). The d4s version has since led to other-language retranslations of the game, such as Ryusui's 2009 English translation.

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* BlindIdiotTranslation: A famous exponent, to boot; this game came as close to a TranslationTrainWreck as is possible without becoming totally incoherent.
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incoherent. Led to the ''extremely'' well-done d4s German FanTranslation (complete with the GBA gameplay tweaks added into the SNES game and a new intro that makes great use of original game art). The d4s version has since led to other-language retranslations of the game, such as Ryusui's 2009 English translation.



* BrokenAesop: There's a touching scene with Katt/Lin/Rinpoo (depending on translation), where she [[spoiler: explains to Tiga that people don't just fall in love at first sight. Then it turns out that Ganer and Valerie, Ryu's parents, fell in love at first sight.]]
** [[spoiler: Since we never really see how long Ganer and Valerie dated before they got married, the point may be that it's not good to rush things, especially with love-at-first-sight cases. After all, Tiga practically proposed to Katt the very second he laid eyes on her, which Ganer did ''not'' do.]]

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* BrokenAesop: BrokenAesop:
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There's a touching scene with Katt/Lin/Rinpoo (depending on translation), where she [[spoiler: explains to Tiga that people don't just fall in love at first sight. Then it turns out that Ganer and Valerie, Ryu's parents, fell in love at first sight.]]
** [[spoiler: Since [[spoiler:Since we never really see how long Ganer and Valerie dated before they got married, the point may be that it's not good to rush things, especially with love-at-first-sight cases. After all, Tiga practically proposed to Katt the very second he laid eyes on her, which Ganer did ''not'' do.]]



* ColonyDrop: In the best ending.

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* %%* ColonyDrop: In the best ending.



* CrystalDragonJesus: The BigBad is one.

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* %%* CrystalDragonJesus: The BigBad is one.



* EarlyBirdCameo: [[spoiler: The worst ending]] shows the silhouette of the BigBad, far before he normally appears.

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* EarlyBirdCameo: [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The worst ending]] shows the silhouette of the BigBad, far before he normally appears.



* {{Glamour}} / MassHypnosis: Evrai seems like a utopia full of happy citizens. [[spoiler: Try to leave, however, and they're revealed to be muttering, brainwashed puppets.]]

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* {{Glamour}} / MassHypnosis: Evrai seems like a utopia full of happy citizens. [[spoiler: Try [[spoiler:Try to leave, however, and they're revealed to be muttering, brainwashed puppets.]]



** The Township's potential inhabitants themselves are a large GuideDangIt on top of that. To the uninitiated: From an early point in the game, you're tasked with turning a single run-down building into a bustling town. The first step is to find a carpenter to build a few houses; the choice of carpenter decides the layout and style of the residential buildings, as well as the function he and his wife serve in their own building. (Hint: The one you want will eventually allow you to cook items, which is a huge GameBreaker when you consider that you can buy two cheap items and turn them into one item that permanently raises one's stats.) Pick a carpenter you don't like, and you can't change them. More to the point, your town has a rather paltry maximum of six houses, so if you're too generous early in the game, you're stuck with losers like Poo (who sits around thanking you and eventually sells an item... ONCE) or El (who literally does nothing). Inviting some of these losers leaves you unable to give houses to people like Yozo (who offers the unique deal of raising one's max AP) or the LostForever Barose (who offers the equally-unique deal of granting spells to any party member you want). The real problem comes into play when you realize that each tenant will only occupy a "certain" house in the township; if you invite El, you can never invite Yozo. A real GuideDangIt for people wondering why a prospective tenant suddenly lost all interest in moving into your town.

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** The Township's potential inhabitants themselves are a large GuideDangIt on top of that. To the uninitiated: From an early point in the game, you're tasked with turning a single run-down building into a bustling town. The first step is to find a carpenter to build a few houses; the choice of carpenter decides the layout and style of the residential buildings, as well as the function he and his wife serve in their own building. (Hint: The one you want will eventually allow you to cook items, which is a huge GameBreaker when you consider that you can buy two cheap items and turn them into one item that permanently raises one's stats.) Pick a carpenter you don't like, and you can't change them. More to the point, your town has a rather paltry maximum of six houses, so if you're too generous early in the game, you're stuck with losers like Poo (who sits around thanking you and eventually sells an item... ONCE) or El (who literally does nothing). Inviting some of these losers leaves you unable to give houses to people like Yozo (who offers the unique deal of raising one's max AP) or the LostForever {{Permanently Missable|Content}} Barose (who offers the equally-unique deal of granting spells to any party member you want). The real problem comes into play when you realize that each tenant will only occupy a "certain" house in the township; if you invite El, you can never invite Yozo. A real GuideDangIt for people wondering why a prospective tenant suddenly lost all interest in moving into your town.



** Yet ''another'' example: Finding all six of the elemental shamans. Using these can power up your characters drastically, but only two of them are encountered in the course of normal play, and of the remaining four, only one (Shin) fails to qualify for this trope, and you get her right before TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon. Seso is at least possible to run into by chance... Except that when you do, she's TakenForGranite, and good luck remembering to go back for her after you lift the curse on everyone in the tower. Solo requires you to donate 2000Z to Namanda, when the game only lets you donate 100Z at a time - the only hint you're given is a wise tree telling you to "be generous with your donations!" and it's entirely probable for a player to miss this tree altogether. The worst part is that Solo won't even show up until after [[spoiler: you level the St. Eva Church]], in a place the player is less than likely to return to, and if you didn't donate 2000Z by this point, Solo is LostForever. And the last shaman, Seny, somehow manages to be even worse - randomly showing up in a dungeon the player beat three hours ago, with no indication whatsoever that anything is different there. This, by the way, is the second method of finding Seny - the first method is such utter GuideDangIt that it took the playerbase '''fifteen years''' after the game's release to find it. If this isn't indicative of ''II'' taking GuideDangIt UpToEleven, nothing is.
* [[HalfDressedCartoonAnimal Half-Dressed Petting Zoo People]]: [[CatGirl Katt]], [[BeastMan Tiga]] and [[SnakePeople Bleu / Deis]].

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** Yet ''another'' example: Finding all six of the elemental shamans. Using these can power up your characters drastically, but only two of them are encountered in the course of normal play, and of the remaining four, only one (Shin) fails to qualify for this trope, and you get her right before TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon. Seso is at least possible to run into by chance... Except that when you do, she's TakenForGranite, and good luck remembering to go back for her after you lift the curse on everyone in the tower. Solo requires you to donate 2000Z to Namanda, when the game only lets you donate 100Z at a time - the only hint you're given is a wise tree telling you to "be generous with your donations!" and it's entirely probable for a player to miss this tree altogether. The worst part is that Solo won't even show up until after [[spoiler: you level the St. Eva Church]], in a place the player is less than likely to return to, and if you didn't donate 2000Z by this point, Solo is LostForever.[[PermanentlyMissableContent lost forever]]. And the last shaman, Seny, somehow manages to be even worse - randomly showing up in a dungeon the player beat three hours ago, with no indication whatsoever that anything is different there. This, by the way, is the second method of finding Seny - the first method is such utter GuideDangIt that it took the playerbase '''fifteen years''' after the game's release to find it. If this isn't indicative of ''II'' taking GuideDangIt UpToEleven, nothing is.
* [[HalfDressedCartoonAnimal Half-Dressed Petting Zoo People]]: HalfDressedCartoonAnimal: [[CatGirl Katt]], [[BeastMan Tiga]] and [[SnakePeople Bleu / Deis]].



* HandInTheHole

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* %%* HandInTheHole



* HopelessBossFight: The first battle with Barubary.
** Also, optionally, the duel with Tiga.

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* HopelessBossFight: HopelessBossFight:
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The first battle with Barubary.
** Also, optionally, Optionally, the duel with Tiga.



* [[IHaveYourWife I Have Your Mom]]: [[spoiler: The Church of St. Eva]], after Rand's mother refuses to donate her land.
* InevitableTournament: The contest in Coursair.
* InformedDeformity: It would make a lot more sense if Nina's black wings were actually... You know, black.
** To be fair, in the 8-Bit engine, if they really were black, they'd likely just look like a shadow following her. They could have made them greyscale, but it likely would have made her sprite look bland, so thusly... We have purple.
*** Also you meet Nina around the same time you meet Patty, it's likely the colour change was solely so you wouldn't mistake one for the other.

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* [[IHaveYourWife I Have Your Mom]]: [[spoiler: The IHaveYourWife: [[spoiler:The Church of St. Eva]], after Rand's mother refuses to donate her land.
* %%* InevitableTournament: The contest in Coursair.
* InformedDeformity: It would make a lot more sense if Nina's black wings were actually... You know, black.
** To
black. This might be fair, in explained by 1)
with
the 8-Bit engine, if they really were black, they'd likely just look like a shadow following her. They could have made them greyscale, but it likely would have made her sprite look bland, so thusly... We have purple.
*** Also
her, and 2) you meet Nina around the same time you meet Patty, it's likely so the colour change was solely so you wouldn't mistake one for the other.



* [[spoiler: ItsPersonal: Midway through the game, the Rangers Guild gets what their most veteran members declare an impossible task to slay a monster near the town of Gate, where Ryu and Bow first met. They quickly realize it's Barubary, the same monster that nearly killed them as children and [[JumpedAtTheCall take up the mission without a moment's hesitation]]. You can opt to ramp this trope's invocation UpToEleven in the final dungeon, by having Ryu take Barubary on ''solo.'' Revenge will ''never'' be sweeter.]]

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* [[spoiler: ItsPersonal: Midway [[spoiler:Midway through the game, the Rangers Guild gets what their most veteran members declare an impossible task to slay a monster near the town of Gate, where Ryu and Bow first met. They quickly realize it's Barubary, the same monster that nearly killed them as children and [[JumpedAtTheCall take up the mission without a moment's hesitation]]. You can opt to ramp this trope's invocation UpToEleven in the final dungeon, by having Ryu take Barubary on ''solo.'' Revenge will ''never'' be sweeter.]]



* ListingTheFormsOfDegenerates: The [[FanTranslation fan retranslation]] has Father Halk delivering such a litany when describing "all of society's refuse" that the Church will nonetheless gladly take in. [[spoiler: [[ReligionOfEvil No doubt as fodder to summon]] [[EldritchAbomination their dark god.]]]]

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* ListingTheFormsOfDegenerates: The [[FanTranslation fan retranslation]] has Father Halk delivering such a litany when describing "all of society's refuse" that the Church will nonetheless gladly take in. [[spoiler: [[ReligionOfEvil [[spoiler:[[ReligionOfEvil No doubt as fodder to summon]] [[EldritchAbomination their dark god.]]]]



* LostInTranslation: Most of the {{Punny Name}}s and ThemeNaming.
** Also, Gandaroof should've been Romanized as Gandalf.
** The "A" in "A. Sludge" stand for "Atomic", which might explain [[spoiler: why most of the monsters in the island where you fight them are giant]].
* LostForever: Building up the [=TownShip=] community requires previous planning, as there are only 6 available houses, each one with their corresponding tenant. Since it only takes speaking to the tenant to make him/her join, it is quite easy to talk to the wrong {{NPC}} and have a house with an important one occupied forever.
** There's also the [[spoiler: Great Bird]], lost very close to the end, which also leaves Ryu's InfinityPlusOneSword out of reach.
** The Earth Shaman, as mentioned under GuideDangIt.
* LostSuperweapon: [[spoiler: Highfort]]. Surprisingly for a JRPG, Shupkay ''fails'' to reactivate it.

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* LostInTranslation: LostInTranslation:
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Most of the {{Punny Name}}s and ThemeNaming.
** Also, Gandaroof should've been Romanized as Gandalf.
** The "A" in "A. Sludge" stand stands for "Atomic", which might explain [[spoiler: why [[spoiler:why most of the monsters in the island where you fight them are giant]].
* LostForever: Building up the [=TownShip=] community requires previous planning, as there are only 6 available houses, each one with their corresponding tenant. Since it only takes speaking to the tenant to make him/her join, it is quite easy to talk to the wrong {{NPC}} and have a house with an important one occupied forever.
** There's also the [[spoiler: Great Bird]], lost very close to the end, which also leaves Ryu's InfinityPlusOneSword out of reach.
** The Earth Shaman, as mentioned under GuideDangIt.
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LostSuperweapon: [[spoiler: Highfort]].[[spoiler:Highfort]]. Surprisingly for a JRPG, Shupkay ''fails'' to reactivate it.



* MeaningfulName: [[FloatingContinent Township]].

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* MeaningfulName: MeaningfulName:
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[[FloatingContinent Township]].



* MissingMom: [[spoiler: She's around, she's just not able to do much...]]

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* MissingMom: [[spoiler: She's [[spoiler:She's around, she's just not able to do much...]]



* [[MyCountryRightOrWrong My Religion, Right or Wrong]]: Ray knows that [[spoiler: the Church of St. Eva is bad]], but fights you anyway out of loyalty to his adopted father.

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* [[MyCountryRightOrWrong My Religion, Right or Wrong]]: MyCountryRightOrWrong: Ray knows that [[spoiler: the Church of St. Eva is bad]], but fights you anyway out of loyalty to his adopted father.



* OrphansPlotTrinket: The Dragon Tear.
** RelationshipValues: It also measures how close are the characters to Ryu. Subverted in that it barely has any impact in the storyline.
** It allows Ryu (and by extension, the player) to figure out the feelings of the person he's talking to, which can be useful to get some nice upgrades from a (very shy) recruitable NPC.

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* %%* OrphansPlotTrinket: The Dragon Tear.
** RelationshipValues: It also measures how close are the characters to Ryu. Subverted in that it barely has any impact in the storyline.
** It allows Ryu (and by extension, the player) to figure out the feelings of the person he's talking to, which can be useful to get some nice upgrades from a (very shy) recruitable NPC.
Tear.



* PathOfInspiration: [[spoiler: The Church of St. Eva]]. Probably one of the earliest examples of a video game using a religious organization as an antagonist force.
* PeninsulaOfPowerLeveling: Monster Island.

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* PathOfInspiration: [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The Church of St. Eva]]. Probably one of the earliest examples of a video game using a religious organization as an antagonist force.
* PeninsulaOfPowerLeveling: PeninsulaOfPowerLeveling:
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Monster Island.



* PermanentlyMissableContent:
** Building up the [=TownShip=] community requires previous planning, as there are only 6 available houses, each one with their corresponding tenant. Since it only takes speaking to the tenant to make him/her join, it is quite easy to talk to the wrong {{NPC}} and have a house with an important one occupied forever.
** The [[spoiler:Great Bird]], lost very close to the end, leaves Ryu's InfinityPlusOneSword out of reach.
%%** The Earth Shaman, as mentioned under GuideDangIt.



* RelationshipValues: It also measures how close are the characters to Ryu. Subverted in that it barely has any impact in the storyline. It allows Ryu (and by extension, the player) to figure out the feelings of the person he's talking to, which can be useful to get some nice upgrades from a (very shy) recruitable NPC.
* ReligionOfEvil: Played with [[spoiler: the Church of St. Eva]]. While it's secretly bad to the bone, its believers (and many of its puppet preachers) genuinely believe it's so good and noble as they were told.



* ReligionOfEvil: Played with [[spoiler: the Church of St. Eva]]. While it's secretly bad to the bone, its believers (and many of its puppet preachers) genuinely believe it's so good and noble as they were told.



* TakeAThirdOption

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* TakeAThirdOptionTakeAThirdOption:



** Another happens in the best ending. [[spoiler: Ryu is told that [[BigBad Deathevan]] [[AsLongAsThereIsEvil may return]], so he prepares to sacrifice himself by using his dragon form to seal the entrance to the underworld just as his mother did (which is what happens in the bittersweet ending). Then Ryu's father shows up, flying [[FloatingContinent Township]] overhead, which he [[ColonyDrop drops onto the gate]], burying it completely.]]

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** Another happens in In the best ending. ending, [[spoiler: Ryu is told that [[BigBad Deathevan]] [[AsLongAsThereIsEvil may return]], so he prepares to sacrifice himself by using his dragon form to seal the entrance to the underworld just as his mother did (which is what happens in the bittersweet ending). Then Ryu's father shows up, flying [[FloatingContinent Township]] overhead, which he [[ColonyDrop drops onto the gate]], burying it completely.]]



* TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon: Infinity.

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* %%* TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon: Infinity.



* WellDoneSonGuy: Averted when Rand's mother [[spoiler: sacrifices herself to save him]].
* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: After Patty ([[spoiler: who is really Yua, Ryu's long-lost sister]]) serves her purpose in the plot, close to the end game, she is unceremoniously thrown in the tall grass and ''never seen again''.

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* WellDoneSonGuy: Averted when Rand's mother [[spoiler: sacrifices [[spoiler:sacrifices herself to save him]].
* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: WhatHappenedToTheMouse:
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After Patty ([[spoiler: who ([[spoiler:who is really Yua, Ryu's long-lost sister]]) serves her purpose in the plot, close to the end game, she is unceremoniously thrown in the tall grass and ''never seen again''.



* WhereItAllBegan: [[spoiler: Ryu's hometown Gate is where the final dungeon is located]].
* [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude Who Names Their Kid "Baba(del)"?]]: Ryu gets a lot of flak for his alias.

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* WhereItAllBegan: [[spoiler: Ryu's [[spoiler:Ryu's hometown Gate is where the final dungeon is located]].
* [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude Who Names Their Kid "Baba(del)"?]]: WhoNamesTheirKidDude: Ryu gets a lot of flak for his alias.alias, "Baba(del)".



* YouCantGoHomeAgain

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* %%* YouCantGoHomeAgain
11th Nov '16 11:10:39 PM NoxSky12599
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** The Earth Shaman, as mentioned under GuideDangIt.



* MobileMenace: Teleportation is the ''only'' possible explanation for Habaruku serving as both leader of the St. Eva church ''and'' [[spoiler: priest of a tiny backwater village on another continent]]. For ten years.

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* MobileMenace: Teleportation is the ''only'' possible explanation for Habaruku serving as both leader of the St. Eva church ''and'' [[spoiler: priest of a tiny backwater village on another continent]]. For ten years. (Granted, the game ''does'' have a "Warp" spell.)


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* MutuallyExclusivePowerups: Each of the six Shamans can only be fused to one character at a time, with several characters' most powerful forms requiring a specific combination of Shamans. Want to use Nina's most powerful fused form? Then you're not gonna be having Sten's or Jean's in the same party.
4th Aug '16 7:14:31 PM RichardX1
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* LeotardOfPower: They actually have an armor called [=LeotrdCL=], wearable by the female characters. Not very protective, though.[Note]Apparently, "[=CL=]" stands for either "Cloth" or "Clothing"[/Note]
26th Jul '16 8:48:25 PM PaulA
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* ShoutOutThemeNaming: Elforan and Gedd are named after ''Literature/EarthseaTrilogy'' characters.

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* ShoutOutThemeNaming: ShoutOutThemeNaming:
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Elforan and Gedd are named after ''Literature/EarthseaTrilogy'' ''Literature/{{Earthsea}}'' characters.
25th Jun '16 11:29:39 PM gewunomox
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The second entry into the long-running and popular Franchise/BreathOfFire Japanese RolePlayingGame series. It was released for the SuperNintendo in December 1994 in Japan and December 1995 for North America. It was later ported to the GameBoyAdvance in December 2001 in Japan, April 2002 for North America and June 2002 for Europe. It includes updated {{Character Portrait}}s, a dash button, upraded graphics for the menu screens, a trade option between games (with a few bonus items) and a re-balancing of Exp/Money given by enemies.

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The second entry into the long-running and popular Franchise/BreathOfFire Japanese RolePlayingGame series. It was released for the SuperNintendo [[UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem SNES]] in December 1994 in Japan and December 1995 for North America. It was later ported to the GameBoyAdvance UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance in December 2001 in Japan, April 2002 for North America and June 2002 for Europe. It includes updated {{Character Portrait}}s, a dash button, upraded upgraded graphics for the menu screens, a trade option between games (with a few bonus items) and a re-balancing of Exp/Money given by enemies.
enemies.






!!Provides Examples Of:

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!!Provides
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* AndNowForSomeoneCompletelyDifferent: In some events you take control of Sten, then Nina, and then [[spoiler:Ryu's mother Valerie]].
* AnyoneCanDie: [[spoiler:Particularly if you're in the Church of Saint Eva. Tiga, Claris, Ray, Rand's mother, and potentially Ganer all bite it in that area.]]

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* AndNowForSomeoneCompletelyDifferent: In some events you take control of Sten, then Nina, and then [[spoiler:Ryu's [[spoiler: Ryu's mother Valerie]].
* AnyoneCanDie: [[spoiler:Particularly [[spoiler: Particularly if you're in the Church of Saint Eva. Tiga, Claris, Ray, Rand's mother, and potentially Ganer all bite it in that area.]]



* AwesomeButImpractical: Averted by the Death spell; unlike most SNES jRPGs this one is SimpleYetAwesome since it works on a majority of non-boss enemies (but has a pretty simple animation).

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* AwesomeButImpractical: Averted by the Death spell; unlike most SNES jRPGs JRPG's this one is SimpleYetAwesome since it works on a majority of non-boss enemies (but has a pretty simple animation).



* BrokenAesop: There's a touching scene with Katt/Lin/Rinpoo (depending on translation), where she [[spoiler:explains to Tiga that people don't just fall in love at first sight. Then it turns out that Ganer and Valerie, Ryu's parents, fell in love at first sight.]]

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* BrokenAesop: There's a touching scene with Katt/Lin/Rinpoo (depending on translation), where she [[spoiler:explains [[spoiler: explains to Tiga that people don't just fall in love at first sight. Then it turns out that Ganer and Valerie, Ryu's parents, fell in love at first sight.]]



* ChekhovsGun: Arguably [[spoiler:the Township itself]], for a role it will play in the true ending of the game.

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* ChekhovsGun: Arguably [[spoiler:the [[spoiler: the Township itself]], for a role it will play in the true ending of the game.



* DubNameChange: Plenty, mostly due to the BlindIdiotTranslation as it seems the translator doesn't even knew how to render names right (''Rand Marks'' instead of Land Marks). Other cases are due to space restrictions (Jean and Spar), making up new ones (Katt) or, randomly, because they wanted to adhere to VideoGame/{{Breath of Fire|I}}'s translation (Bleu, some magic spells)

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* DubNameChange: Plenty, mostly due to the BlindIdiotTranslation as it seems the translator doesn't even knew how to render names right (''Rand Marks'' instead of Land Marks). Other cases are due to space restrictions (Jean and Spar), making up new ones (Katt) or, randomly, because they wanted to adhere to VideoGame/{{Breath of Fire|I}}'s translation (Bleu, some magic spells)spells).



* EarlyBirdCameo: [[spoiler:The worst ending]] shows the silhouette of the BigBad, far before he normally appears.
* EldritchAbomination: The more you go through the game, the more the enemies start becoming this. In the beginning, we're talking things like two-headed werewolves. By the end of the game, you'll be seeing mini-Cthulhu's in priest gear, giant bloated scorpions with ''human skulls for heads'' and... and... [[http://spriters-resource.com/snes/breathfire2/sheet/19935 and whatever the hell THIS is supposed to be]]!
* EvilTowerOfOminousness: Infinity is an ''underground'' variant. Specially seen in the game's intro.
* FantasticVoyagePlot: A wizard shrinks the party in order for them to enter the body of Tunlan's Queen, who is growing obese due to the demons inside her.

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* EarlyBirdCameo: [[spoiler:The [[spoiler: The worst ending]] shows the silhouette of the BigBad, far before he normally appears.
* EldritchAbomination: The more you go through the game, the more the enemies start becoming this. In the beginning, we're talking things like two-headed werewolves. By the end of the game, you'll be seeing mini-Cthulhu's in priest gear, giant bloated scorpions with ''human skulls for heads'' and... and...And... [[http://spriters-resource.com/snes/breathfire2/sheet/19935 and whatever the hell THIS is supposed to be]]!
* EvilTowerOfOminousness: Infinity is an ''underground'' variant. Specially seen in the game's intro.
intro.
* FantasticVoyagePlot: A wizard shrinks the party in order for them to enter the body of Tunlan's Queen, who is growing obese due to the demons inside her.



* ForeignQueasine: The frog-people's culinary, with its use of worms, roaches and flies. Ryu gets to taste some...with [[VomitDiscretionShot predictable results.]]

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* ForeignQueasine: The frog-people's culinary, with its use of worms, roaches and flies. Ryu gets to taste some...with With [[VomitDiscretionShot predictable results.]]



* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: As stated above, numerous - and explicit - references to both death and religion. Even more bizarre that Nintendo allowed this, yet denied the Snes version of Final Fantasy II/IV from using the word holy.

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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: As stated above, numerous - and explicit - references to both death and religion. Even more bizarre that Nintendo allowed this, yet denied the Snes SNES version of Final Fantasy II/IV from using the word holy.



* GlobalAirship: The Great Bird, and later [[spoiler:Township]].
* GodsNeedPrayerBadly: The entire point of the [[spoiler:St. Eva]] scam.

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* GlobalAirship: The Great Bird, and later [[spoiler:Township]].
[[spoiler: Township]].
* GodsNeedPrayerBadly: The entire point of the [[spoiler:St.[[spoiler: St. Eva]] scam.



** The Township's potential inhabitants themselves are a large GuideDangIt on top of that. To the uninitiated: from an early point in the game, you're tasked with turning a single run-down building into a bustling town. The first step is to find a carpenter to build a few houses; the choice of carpenter decides the layout and style of the residential buildings, as well as the function he and his wife serve in their own building. (Hint: the one you want will eventually allow you to cook items, which is a huge GameBreaker when you consider that you can buy two cheap items and turn them into one item that permanently raises one's stats.) Pick a carpenter you don't like, and you can't change them. More to the point, your town has a rather paltry maximum of six houses, so if you're too generous early in the game, you're stuck with losers like Poo (who sits around thanking you and eventually sells an item...ONCE) or El (who literally does nothing). Inviting some of these losers leaves you unable to give houses to people like Yozo (who offers the unique deal of raising one's max AP) or the LostForever Barose (who offers the equally-unique deal of granting spells to any party member you want). The real problem comes into play when you realize that each tenant will only occupy a "certain" house in the township; if you invite El, you can never invite Yozo. A real GuideDangIt for people wondering why a prospective tenant suddenly lost all interest in moving into your town.
** Another example involves a secret character: [[spoiler:Deis, a recurring character from the first game.]] Sure, finding this character isn't as hard as some of the others on the page, but it's still a GuideDangIt in its own right. The search involves two simple steps: first, you have to walk into a random (albeit marked) spot in the middle of a desert to find an empty abode, containing little more than two unhelpful spirits that simply proclaim that "[their] master is away". Then, you're expected to visit a building in the first town--one that you've had no business in for the whole game--and talk to a random NPC within, who inexplicably transforms into [[spoiler:Deis]]. Considering that the character is met at a high level (relative to the level you're expected to be when you first enter the aforementioned desert) and knows a ton of powerful magic, pulling this off [[GameBreaker makes things considerably easier.]]
** Yet ''another'' example: finding all six of the elemental shamans. Using these can power up your characters drastically, but only two of them are encountered in the course of normal play, and of the remaining four, only one (Shin) fails to qualify for this trope, and you get her right before TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon. Seso is at least possible to run into by chance...except that when you do, she's TakenForGranite, and good luck remembering to go back for her after you lift the curse on everyone in the tower. Solo requires you to donate 2000Z to Namanda, when the game only lets you donate 100Z at a time - the only hint you're given is a wise tree telling you to "be generous with your donations!" and it's entirely probable for a player to miss this tree altogether. The worst part is that Solo won't even show up until after [[spoiler:you level the St. Eva Church]], in a place the player is less than likely to return to, and if you didn't donate 2000Z by this point, Solo is LostForever. And the last shaman, Seny, somehow manages to be even worse - randomly showing up in a dungeon the player beat three hours ago, with no indication whatsoever that anything is different there. This, by the way, is the second method of finding Seny - the first method is such utter GuideDangIt that it took the playerbase '''fifteen years''' after the game's release to find it. If this isn't indicative of ''II'' taking GuideDangIt UpToEleven, nothing is.

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** The Township's potential inhabitants themselves are a large GuideDangIt on top of that. To the uninitiated: from From an early point in the game, you're tasked with turning a single run-down building into a bustling town. The first step is to find a carpenter to build a few houses; the choice of carpenter decides the layout and style of the residential buildings, as well as the function he and his wife serve in their own building. (Hint: the The one you want will eventually allow you to cook items, which is a huge GameBreaker when you consider that you can buy two cheap items and turn them into one item that permanently raises one's stats.) Pick a carpenter you don't like, and you can't change them. More to the point, your town has a rather paltry maximum of six houses, so if you're too generous early in the game, you're stuck with losers like Poo (who sits around thanking you and eventually sells an item... ONCE) or El (who literally does nothing). Inviting some of these losers leaves you unable to give houses to people like Yozo (who offers the unique deal of raising one's max AP) or the LostForever Barose (who offers the equally-unique deal of granting spells to any party member you want). The real problem comes into play when you realize that each tenant will only occupy a "certain" house in the township; if you invite El, you can never invite Yozo. A real GuideDangIt for people wondering why a prospective tenant suddenly lost all interest in moving into your town.
** Another example involves a secret character: [[spoiler:Deis, [[spoiler: Deis, a recurring character from the first game.]] Sure, finding this character isn't as hard as some of the others on the page, but it's still a GuideDangIt in its own right. The search involves two simple steps: first, First, you have to walk into a random (albeit marked) spot in the middle of a desert to find an empty abode, containing little more than two unhelpful spirits that simply proclaim that "[their] master is away". Then, you're expected to visit a building in the first town--one town -- one that you've had no business in for the whole game--and game -- and talk to a random NPC within, who inexplicably transforms into [[spoiler:Deis]].[[spoiler: Deis]]. Considering that the character is met at a high level (relative to the level you're expected to be when you first enter the aforementioned desert) and knows a ton of powerful magic, pulling this off [[GameBreaker makes things considerably easier.]]
** Yet ''another'' example: finding Finding all six of the elemental shamans. Using these can power up your characters drastically, but only two of them are encountered in the course of normal play, and of the remaining four, only one (Shin) fails to qualify for this trope, and you get her right before TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon. Seso is at least possible to run into by chance...except Except that when you do, she's TakenForGranite, and good luck remembering to go back for her after you lift the curse on everyone in the tower. Solo requires you to donate 2000Z to Namanda, when the game only lets you donate 100Z at a time - the only hint you're given is a wise tree telling you to "be generous with your donations!" and it's entirely probable for a player to miss this tree altogether. The worst part is that Solo won't even show up until after [[spoiler:you [[spoiler: you level the St. Eva Church]], in a place the player is less than likely to return to, and if you didn't donate 2000Z by this point, Solo is LostForever. And the last shaman, Seny, somehow manages to be even worse - randomly showing up in a dungeon the player beat three hours ago, with no indication whatsoever that anything is different there. This, by the way, is the second method of finding Seny - the first method is such utter GuideDangIt that it took the playerbase '''fifteen years''' after the game's release to find it. If this isn't indicative of ''II'' taking GuideDangIt UpToEleven, nothing is.



* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: Sten fakes us out of one, then Nina gets robbed of hers by Mina. Just after you enter Evrai, the amount of sacrifices is considerably increased; Tiga and Ray go down for your sake, followed by Rand's attempt only for his mother to switch places with him, and Ganer is more than willing but it depends on you; some time later it's Valerie's turn so you can progress; and finally Ryu has two different situations: one in which everyone is willing but he must ''not'' sacrifice a friend, and the last one in the [[MultipleEndings normal ending]] where he takes up his mother's place.]]

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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: Sten fakes us out of one, then Nina gets robbed of hers by Mina. Just after you enter Evrai, the amount of sacrifices is considerably increased; Tiga and Ray go down for your sake, followed by Rand's attempt only for his mother to switch places with him, and Ganer is more than willing but it depends on you; some time later it's Valerie's turn so you can progress; and finally Ryu has two different situations: one One in which everyone is willing but he must ''not'' sacrifice a friend, and the last one in the [[MultipleEndings normal ending]] where he takes up his mother's place.]]



* HumanResources: There are several ancient machines powered by draining life energy. [[spoiler:One under Evrai, in which Ryu's father has been imprisoned, one in Highfort, which the princess must be rescued from, and one under the Township, which Ryu's father [[HeroicSacrifice insists on powering]] if you rescue him, allowing Township to fly.]]
* IHaveNoSon: Windia's royal family has disowned Nina. Her mother refuses to acknowledge they're even related. [[spoiler:They were supposed to kill Nina because of a prophecy about a black winged royal bringing destruction to Windia. Instead, they sent her to [=HomeTown=] when she was a little girl, and they faked her death to ensure that she would be safe]].
* [[IHaveYourWife I Have Your Mom]]: [[spoiler:The Church of St. Eva]], after Rand's mother refuses to donate her land.
* InevitableTournament: The contest in Coursair.
* InformedDeformity: It would make a lot more sense if Nina's black wings were actually... you know, black.
** To be fair, in the 8-Bit engine, if they really were black, they'd likely just look like a shadow following her. They could have made them greyscale, but it likely would have made her sprite look bland, so thusly...we have purple.

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* HumanResources: There are several ancient machines powered by draining life energy. [[spoiler:One [[spoiler: One under Evrai, in which Ryu's father has been imprisoned, one in Highfort, which the princess must be rescued from, and one under the Township, which Ryu's father [[HeroicSacrifice insists on powering]] if you rescue him, allowing Township to fly.]]
* IHaveNoSon: Windia's royal family has disowned Nina. Her mother refuses to acknowledge they're even related. [[spoiler:They [[spoiler: They were supposed to kill Nina because of a prophecy about a black winged royal bringing destruction to Windia. Instead, they sent her to [=HomeTown=] when she was a little girl, and they faked her death to ensure that she would be safe]].
* [[IHaveYourWife I Have Your Mom]]: [[spoiler:The [[spoiler: The Church of St. Eva]], after Rand's mother refuses to donate her land.
* InevitableTournament: The contest in Coursair.
Coursair.
* InformedDeformity: It would make a lot more sense if Nina's black wings were actually... you You know, black.
** To be fair, in the 8-Bit engine, if they really were black, they'd likely just look like a shadow following her. They could have made them greyscale, but it likely would have made her sprite look bland, so thusly...we We have purple.



* LongLostRelative: [[spoiler:Patty is actually Yua, Ryu's sister]]. This is barely alluded to, with only one quick line ("[[spoiler: I want my brother!"]]) despite being a central aspect of the TheDragon's plan, and is never followed up. See What Happened To The Mouse?

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* LongLostRelative: [[spoiler:Patty [[spoiler: Patty is actually Yua, Ryu's sister]]. This is barely alluded to, with only one quick line ("[[spoiler: I want my brother!"]]) despite being a central aspect of the TheDragon's plan, and is never followed up. See What Happened To The to the Mouse?



** There's also the [[spoiler:Great Bird]], lost very close to the end, which also leaves Ryu's InfinityPlusOneSword out of reach.
* LostSuperweapon: [[spoiler:Highfort]]. Surprisingly for a JRPG, Shupkay ''fails'' to reactivate it.
* LoveTriangle: Trubo hates Sten for abandoning the Princess, who loves him. Made more complicated by the fact Trubo pines for the Princess, himself.

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** There's also the [[spoiler:Great [[spoiler: Great Bird]], lost very close to the end, which also leaves Ryu's InfinityPlusOneSword out of reach.
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* LostSuperweapon: [[spoiler:Highfort]].[[spoiler: Highfort]]. Surprisingly for a JRPG, Shupkay ''fails'' to reactivate it.
* LoveTriangle: Trubo hates Sten for abandoning the Princess, who loves him. Made more complicated by the fact Trubo pines for the Princess, himself.



* MissingMom: [[spoiler:She's around, she's just not able to do much...]]

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* MissingMom: [[spoiler:She's [[spoiler: She's around, she's just not able to do much...]]



* MultipleEndings: There's a bad ending [[spoiler:where everyone gets killed and the demons win]], a bittersweet ending [[spoiler:where the world is saved but Ryu sacrifices himself to seal the entrance to the underworld]], and the good ending, [[spoiler:where Ryu's sacrifice is averted by his father, who plummets Township onto the underworld's entrance, sealing it under thousands and thousands of tons of rock]]. You can only get the good one if you don't kill a certain person during a boss battle.

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* MultipleEndings: There's a bad ending [[spoiler:where [[spoiler: where everyone gets killed and the demons win]], a bittersweet ending [[spoiler:where [[spoiler: where the world is saved but Ryu sacrifices himself to seal the entrance to the underworld]], and the good ending, [[spoiler:where [[spoiler: where Ryu's sacrifice is averted by his father, who plummets Township onto the underworld's entrance, sealing it under thousands and thousands of tons of rock]]. You can only get the good one if you don't kill a certain person during a boss battle.



* SaintlyChurch: The Dragon Clan and their religious beliefs. There's something very Literature/BookOfRevelation-y about the story, with the people ignoring the benevolent deity and [[spoiler:worshiping a demon who poses as one]].

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* SaintlyChurch: The Dragon Clan and their religious beliefs. There's something very Literature/BookOfRevelation-y about the story, with the people ignoring the benevolent deity and [[spoiler:worshiping [[spoiler: worshiping a demon who poses as one]].



* ShoutOut: The tenants are full of these: the fortuneteller is named after Creator/WhoopiGoldberg, the old guy Barose/Burroughs from the dreamworld is named after a character from ''Film/FreddysDeadTheFinalNightmare'', artist Salvador is named after Creator/SalvadorDali, etc...

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* ShoutOut: The tenants are full of these: the The fortuneteller is named after Creator/WhoopiGoldberg, the old guy Barose/Burroughs from the dreamworld is named after a character from ''Film/FreddysDeadTheFinalNightmare'', artist Salvador is named after Creator/SalvadorDali, etc...



** All the bouncers on Wildcat's Cafe have their names given in the CreativeClosingCredits. They are all characters from {{Capcom}}'s WrestlingGame ''VideoGame/SaturdayNightSlammasters''.

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** All the bouncers on Wildcat's Cafe have their names given in the CreativeClosingCredits. They are all characters from {{Capcom}}'s Creator/{{Capcom}}'s WrestlingGame ''VideoGame/SaturdayNightSlammasters''. ''VideoGame/SaturdayNightSlammasters''.



** Another happens in the best ending. [[spoiler: Ryu is told that [[BigBad Deathevan]] [[AsLongAsThereIsEvil may return]], so he prepares to sacrifice himself by using his dragon form to seal the entrance to the underworld just as his mother did (which is what happens in the bitterweet ending). Then Ryu's father shows up, flying [[FloatingContinent Township]] overhead, which he [[ColonyDrop drops onto the gate]], burying it completely.]]

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** Another happens in the best ending. [[spoiler: Ryu is told that [[BigBad Deathevan]] [[AsLongAsThereIsEvil may return]], so he prepares to sacrifice himself by using his dragon form to seal the entrance to the underworld just as his mother did (which is what happens in the bitterweet bittersweet ending). Then Ryu's father shows up, flying [[FloatingContinent Township]] overhead, which he [[ColonyDrop drops onto the gate]], burying it completely.]]



* UglyGuyHotWife: Ryu and Patty's parents. Their mom is a hot young winged woman who can turn into a gigantic dragon and their dad, while not necessarily ugly, is a normal old human:[[http://images.wikia.com/bof/images/2/2e/958876-bof2_ganer_super.jpg Ganer official artwork]] / [[http://images.wikia.com/bof/images/4/4b/Valerie.jpg Valerie official artwork]]

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* UglyGuyHotWife: Ryu and Patty's parents. Their mom is a hot young winged woman who can turn into a gigantic dragon and their dad, while not necessarily ugly, is a normal old human:[[http://images.wikia.com/bof/images/2/2e/958876-bof2_ganer_super.jpg Ganer official artwork]] / [[http://images.wikia.com/bof/images/4/4b/Valerie.jpg Valerie official artwork]]artwork]].



** And let's not forget Algernon and her friends who... well, let's say she's been known to put a stop to progression for many people.

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** And let's not forget Algernon and her friends who... well, Well, let's say she's been known to put a stop to progression for many people.



* WrenchWench: Eichichi ([[FanTranslation a.k.a. Gigi]]). Has massive breasts and finds machines… stimulating. Probably would be MsFanservice, too, if the sprites in this game were large and detailed enough.

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* WrenchWench: Eichichi ([[FanTranslation a.k.a. Gigi]]). Has massive breasts and finds machines… stimulating.machines... Stimulating. Probably would be MsFanservice, too, if the sprites in this game were large and detailed enough.



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* ReligionOfEvil: Played with [[spoiler: the Church of St. Eva]]. While it's secretly bad to the bone, it's believers (and many of it's puppet preachers) genuinely believe it's so good and noble as they were told.

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* ReligionOfEvil: Played with [[spoiler: the Church of St. Eva]]. While it's secretly bad to the bone, it's its believers (and many of it's its puppet preachers) genuinely believe it's so good and noble as they were told.
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* AmericanKirbyIsHardcore: The page picture is the original Japanese box art. North America got something close to what one would find in ConanTheBarbarian. In short, [[http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/0/563530_29076_front.jpg Bow looks like he wants to chew you... with the rest of the crew trying to do the same to you.]]

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* AmericanKirbyIsHardcore: The page picture is the original Japanese box art. North America got something close to what one would find in ConanTheBarbarian.''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian''. In short, [[http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/0/563530_29076_front.jpg Bow looks like he wants to chew you... with the rest of the crew trying to do the same to you.]]
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