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19th Jun '16 12:20:47 AM nombretomado
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16th Jun '16 12:23:57 PM dlchen145
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* The '''M1 Abrams'''' is America's main battle tank. It was born of a resolve to not repeat the horrific American tanker casualties of WWII due to [[ZergRush sacrificing ten inferior tanks to destroy a single German one]]--especially if they were going to defend bottlenecks in West Germany like the Fulda Gap and Hof Corridor during the Cold War from the relatively inexpensive and even more numerous Soviet tanks. That's why the first iteration of the Abrams, rolled out in 1981, had features like Chobham composite laminate armor[[note]]Disputed. Some say it's only the original M1 that uses it, while others claim it always has been using another type of Depleted Uranium based armor that is very similar to the English Chobham armor. Nevertheless, the way the armor works is supposed to be very similar to how Chobham is described to work[[/note]], a FLIR sensor suite (''very'' expensive for the time), laser rangefinder and ballistic computer. It got the last piece of its original wish list with the [=M1A1=], replacing the older 105mm/L52 M68 rifled main gun with the [[{{BFG}} German Rheinmetall 120mm/L44 smoothbore main gun]], licensed-made as the M256. The Abrams is also powered by a gas turbine. It's so fast that the Army puts a governor on the engine to keep them from speeding. With the governor removed, it can reach 70mph on a decent road--even though it weighs 68 tons. That's putting the "lightning" in LightningBruiser. Unfortunately, this means it's also a gas guzzler (roughly 1 gallon per mile, and it takes 10 gallons just to ''start'' the engine), and its speed leads to problems like having an entire Abrams unit run out of fuel and wait for five hours for fuel trucks to arrive. [[note]]Oops...:The unit happened to be in downtown Baghdad at the time surrounded by hostiles and with only a few Bradleys as back-ups. In addition, without fuel the Abrams isn't even a very expensive pillbox as it cannot even fire its cannon or power its electronics.[[/note]] On the other hand, its engine can accept most any commonly available flammable or combustible liquids as a fuel, compared to a diesel engine needing well, diesel. In a nonfiction book of his (Armored Cav), Creator/TomClancy recounted a story of an Abrams tank in the Gulf War. Having been immobilized by an enemy shot while deep in hostile territory, the crew of the tank found themselves in what military experts would call "a crappy situation". In the space of thirty seconds or so the immobilized tank destroyed four enemy tanks, two of which got shots off, hitting the tank but completely bouncing off of its proprietary DU-laced armor. When reinforcements arrived they decided it was too much trouble to lug the tank back, and decided to destroy it on site. The American tanks took turns shooting another 8 or 9 times before the turret was penetrated, detonating the ammo stocks--which had little effect due to the blowout hatches installed. The tank's turret was taken back to the US for analysis while the chassis was refit with another turret and returned to action in a week. That's some serious armor. In another example contained in David Zucchino's book, Thunder Run: The Armored Strike to Capture Baghdad, one of the Abrams was disabled by enemy fire. Forces attempting to destroy it on-site set off thermite grenades in the main hatch, detonating both the explosives and the ammunition stored in the tank. This was followed by the tank receiving a HEAT round from another Abrams, and then an AGM-65 Maverick anti-armor missile, as well as two AGM Hellfire missiles were fired via gunship into the tank. The end result? The interior of the tank was demolished, but its armor and exterior appeared relatively unharmed. This tank's a God-damned "[[MechWarrior Battlemech]]".

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* The '''M1 Abrams'''' is America's main battle tank. It was born of a resolve to not repeat the horrific American tanker casualties of WWII due to [[ZergRush sacrificing ten inferior tanks to destroy a single German one]]--especially if they were going to defend bottlenecks in West Germany like the Fulda Gap and Hof Corridor during the Cold War from the relatively inexpensive and even more numerous Soviet tanks. That's why the first iteration of the Abrams, rolled out in 1981, had features like Chobham composite laminate armor[[note]]Disputed. Some say it's only the original M1 that uses it, while others claim it always has been using another type of Depleted Uranium based armor that is very similar to the English Chobham armor. Nevertheless, the way the armor works is supposed to be very similar to how Chobham is described to work[[/note]], a FLIR sensor suite (''very'' expensive for the time), laser rangefinder and ballistic computer. It got the last piece of its original wish list with the [=M1A1=], replacing the older 105mm/L52 M68 rifled main gun with the [[{{BFG}} German Rheinmetall 120mm/L44 smoothbore main gun]], licensed-made as the M256. The Abrams is also powered by a gas turbine. It's so fast that the Army puts a governor on the engine to keep them from speeding. With the governor removed, it can reach 70mph on a decent road--even though it weighs 68 tons. That's putting the "lightning" in LightningBruiser. Unfortunately, this means it's also a gas guzzler (roughly 1 gallon per mile, and it takes 10 gallons just to ''start'' the engine), and its speed leads to problems like having an entire Abrams unit run out of fuel and wait for five hours for fuel trucks to arrive. [[note]]Oops...:The unit happened to be in downtown Baghdad at the time surrounded by hostiles and with only a few Bradleys as back-ups. In addition, without fuel the Abrams isn't even a very expensive pillbox as it cannot even fire its cannon or power its electronics.[[/note]] On the other hand, its engine can accept most any commonly available flammable or combustible liquids as a fuel, compared to a diesel engine needing well, diesel. In a nonfiction book of his (Armored Cav), Creator/TomClancy recounted a story of an Abrams tank in the Gulf War. Having been immobilized by an enemy shot while deep in hostile territory, the crew of the tank found themselves in what military experts would call "a crappy situation". In the space of thirty seconds or so the immobilized tank destroyed four enemy tanks, two of which got shots off, hitting the tank but completely bouncing off of its proprietary DU-laced armor. When reinforcements arrived they decided it was too much trouble to lug the tank back, and decided to destroy it on site. The American tanks took turns shooting another 8 or 9 times before the turret was penetrated, detonating the ammo stocks--which had little effect due to the blowout hatches installed. The tank's turret was taken back to the US for analysis while the chassis was refit with another turret and returned to action in a week. That's some serious armor. In another example contained in David Zucchino's book, Thunder Run: The Armored Strike to Capture Baghdad, one of the Abrams was disabled by enemy fire. Forces attempting to destroy it on-site set off thermite grenades in the main hatch, detonating both the explosives and the ammunition stored in the tank. This was followed by the tank receiving a HEAT round from another Abrams, and then an AGM-65 Maverick anti-armor missile, as well as two AGM Hellfire missiles were fired via gunship into the tank. The end result? The interior of the tank was demolished, but its armor and exterior appeared relatively unharmed. This tank's a God-damned "[[MechWarrior Battlemech]]".
18th May '16 3:15:14 PM nombretomado
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* The Marine Corps are usually depicted as the most "military" branch, with [[JustFollowingOrders emphasis on order and discipline]]. Although they may look like the Army, what separates the Marines from the Army is their use of naval terminology and all Marines (always a capital "M") have a huge degree of pride in their own service and its achievements (all other so-called "armed services" are nothing but worthless maggots). However, there are cases of intelligent retired Marines (there are no such thing as "ex-marines", unless you get a "Dishonorable Discharge"), such as [[CSINewYork Mac Taylor]], [[Series/{{NCIS}} Jethro Gibbs]] and Literature/JackRyan.

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* The Marine Corps are usually depicted as the most "military" branch, with [[JustFollowingOrders emphasis on order and discipline]]. Although they may look like the Army, what separates the Marines from the Army is their use of naval terminology and all Marines (always a capital "M") have a huge degree of pride in their own service and its achievements (all other so-called "armed services" are nothing but worthless maggots). However, there are cases of intelligent retired Marines (there are no such thing as "ex-marines", unless you get a "Dishonorable Discharge"), such as [[CSINewYork [[Series/{{CSINY}} Mac Taylor]], [[Series/{{NCIS}} Jethro Gibbs]] and Literature/JackRyan.
15th May '16 8:04:55 AM WiddershinsDaughter
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''Kearsarge'' class battleships USS ''Kearsarge'' and ''Kentucky''
''Illinois'' class battleships ''Illinois'' and ''Alabama''
''Maine'' class battleships USS ''Maine,'' ''Missouri'' and ''Ohio''
''Virginia'' class battleships USS ''Virginia,'' ''New Jersey,'' ''Georgia'' and ''Rhode Island''
''Connecticut'' class battleships USS ''Connecticut,'' ''Kansas,'' ''Vermont,'' ''Louisiana'' and ''Minnesota''

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''Kearsarge'' *''Kearsarge'' class battleships USS ''Kearsarge'' and ''Kentucky''
''Illinois'' *''Illinois'' class battleships ''Illinois'' and ''Alabama''
''Maine'' *''Maine'' class battleships USS ''Maine,'' ''Missouri'' and ''Ohio''
''Virginia'' *''Virginia'' class battleships USS ''Virginia,'' ''New Jersey,'' ''Georgia'' and ''Rhode Island''
''Connecticut'' *''Connecticut'' class battleships USS ''Connecticut,'' ''Kansas,'' ''Vermont,'' ''Louisiana'' and ''Minnesota''
''Minnesota''

During the first leg of the fleet, USS ''Connecticut'' led the first squadron of the fleet and USS ''Minnesota'' led the second; a reorganization of the fleet at San Francisco to bring the newest and finest ships in the fleet up to the first squadron (since those ships would be anchored closer to the shore and be more visible) brought ''Minnesota'' into the first squadron, replacing her as second squadron flagship with ''Louisiana.''
15th May '16 8:01:49 AM WiddershinsDaughter
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* '''New Navy Monitors:''' In the late 1870s, the US Navy that had been built during the Civil War mostly languished in reserve, its ships slowly moldering and rusting away. To modernize the fleet, the Navy built a series of six new monitors that were ostensibly ''repairs'' of rotting Civil War-era ships. When the ruse was found out, there was an outcry, but the result was the construction of four new ships without the same pretense, and the beginning of the 20th Century US Navy. The New Navy monitors were marginally more useful than the earlier ones, but still not very seaworthy and underpowered by the standards of the battleships that the Royal Navy was putting to sea. The last of them was built in the 1890s, around the end of the Spanish-American War, and all were discarded at the end of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI World War I]].

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* '''New Navy Monitors:''' In the late 1870s, the US Navy that had been built during the Civil War mostly languished in reserve, its ships slowly moldering and rusting away. To modernize the fleet, the Navy built a series of six new monitors that were ostensibly ''repairs'' ''[[BlatantLies repairs]]'' of rotting Civil War-era ships. When the ruse was found out, there was an outcry, but the result was the construction of four new ships without the same pretense, and the beginning of the 20th Century US Navy. The New Navy monitors were marginally more useful than the earlier ones, but still not very seaworthy and underpowered by the standards of the battleships that the Royal Navy was putting to sea. The last of them was built in the 1890s, around the end of the Spanish-American War, and all were discarded at the end of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI World War I]].
15th May '16 8:00:56 AM WiddershinsDaughter
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* '''New Navy Monitors:''' In the late 1870s, the US Navy that had been built during the Civil War mostly languished in reserve, its ships slowly moldering and rusting away. To modernize the fleet, the Navy built a series of six new monitors that were ostensibly ''repairs'' of rotting Civil War-era ships. When the ruse was found out, there was an outcry, but the result was the construction of four new ships without the same pretense, and the beginning of the 20th Century US Navy. The New Navy monitors were marginally more useful than the earlier ones, but still not very seaworthy and underpowered by the standards of the battleships that the Royal Navy was putting to sea. The last of them was built in the 1890s, around the end of the Spanish-American War, and all were discarded at the end of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI]].

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* '''New Navy Monitors:''' In the late 1870s, the US Navy that had been built during the Civil War mostly languished in reserve, its ships slowly moldering and rusting away. To modernize the fleet, the Navy built a series of six new monitors that were ostensibly ''repairs'' of rotting Civil War-era ships. When the ruse was found out, there was an outcry, but the result was the construction of four new ships without the same pretense, and the beginning of the 20th Century US Navy. The New Navy monitors were marginally more useful than the earlier ones, but still not very seaworthy and underpowered by the standards of the battleships that the Royal Navy was putting to sea. The last of them was built in the 1890s, around the end of the Spanish-American War, and all were discarded at the end of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI]].[[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI World War I]].
15th May '16 8:00:26 AM WiddershinsDaughter
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* '''Civil War Monitors:''' Generally built on the pattern of USS ''Monitor,'' these ships consisted of a single turret on a very low hull, with minimal upper works to get shot up by enemy fire. They were slow (typical top speed was under 12 knots), cumbersome, and unseaworthy, which limited their utility to coastal waters and rivers, but they were extremely powerful for their size and cost, and took their Confederate counterparts (almost all of them ''Virginia''-style broadside ironclads) apart.

* '''New Navy Monitors:''' In the late 1870s, the US Navy that had been built during the Civil War mostly languished in reserve, its ships slowly moldering and rusting away. To modernize the fleet, the Navy built a series of six new monitors that were ostensibly ''repairs'' of rotting Civil War-era ships. When the ruse was found out, there was an outcry, but the result was the construction of four new ships without the same pretense, and the beginning of the 20th Century US Navy. The New Navy monitors were marginally more useful than the earlier ones, but still not very seaworthy and underpowered by the standards of the battleships that the Royal Navy was putting to sea. The last of them was built in the 1890s, around the end of the Spanish-American War, and all were discarded at the end of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI]].
15th May '16 7:48:20 AM WiddershinsDaughter
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During the 1800s, navies the world over started experimenting with armor plating on their warships, starting with the French ''Gloire'' class and British ''Warrior'' class ironclads in 1857 and 59. Americans entered the ironclad party in 1862 with CSS ''Virginia,'' a Confederate ironclad ram built on the unburnt portion of the steam frigate USS ''Merrimack'' (not ''Merrimac'') and USS ''Monitor,'' a 700-ton gunboat that gave its name to a new type of warship. Of the two, ''Monitor'' was immediately world-changing; its small number of very heavy guns in a revolving turret would change the way that naval warfare was thought of. As a prototype, ''Monitor'' was immensely flawed, of course - she leaked, she was top-heavy even with her miniscule freeboard of only fourteen inches (even that required substantial lightening of the hull), and her turret motor was so weak that the best solution for her guns was to start the turret revolving, keep it revolving, and fire when the guns trained on an enemy vessel.

The two ironclads met only once, at the Battle of Hampton Roads on March 8-9, 1862, but their meeting changed naval warfare forever. On the 8th, ''Virginia'' attacked and ravaged the Union blockading squadron at Hampton Roads, sinking the sloop-of-war USS ''Cumberland'' with her ram, setting USS ''Congress'' ablaze, and driving USS ''Minnesota,'' her former sister ship, aground.

''Monitor'' arrived under cover of night and took up position guarding the grounded ''Minnesota''. In the morning, ''Virginia'' waded back out, expecting to easily complete the destruction of ''Minnesota.'' Instead, she was engaged in a six-hour running battle with the tiny ''Monitor,'' which her guns had a difficult time engaging. ''Monitor'' herself, ordered to use half-charges in her guns (the Navy didn't trust the Dahlgren cannon), couldn't generate enough velocity to penetrate ''Virginia'''s sloped armor, so the battle ended inconclusively.

The Union, however, encouraged, ran off nearly 100 additional ships on the ''Monitor'' platform before the end of the Civil War, and these vessels made up the core of the postwar fleet - despite their slow speed and almost total lack of seaworthiness.
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15th May '16 6:53:18 AM RustyBill
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* The '''Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II''' takes the opposite approach of the F-117A, being the MightyGlacier of aircraft. She's slow and God bless her, she's uglier than an episode of ''Real Housewives'', but boy does she get the job done. More widely known as "Warthog" or "Hog", the A-10 is designed to kill tanks, armored vehicles--and everyone in them. It can carry up to eight tons of bombs or missiles, but its primary weapon is the [[GatlingGood GAU-8 Avenger Gatling gun]]. A seven-barreled, 30mm cannon with '''UNIMAGINABLE''' [[MoreDakka amounts of dakka]][[note]]Tech Specs: it fires up to seventy rounds per second, each bullet weighing close to a pound ([[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/30mm_5044.jpg Image of it next to a 20oz Coke bottle and a .50 BMG round]]), at 3,250 feet per second muzzle velocity. The ''recoil'' from the gun is more powerful than one of the plane's 2 engines ''at full throttle.''[[/note]]; you do ''not'' want to be on the receiving end of it. If you are, your coffin will probably be about the size of a snuff tin.\\

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* The '''Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II''' takes the opposite approach of the F-117A, being the MightyGlacier of aircraft. She's slow and God bless her, she's uglier than an episode of ''Real Housewives'', but boy does she get the job done. More widely known as "Warthog" or "Hog", the A-10 is designed to kill tanks, armored vehicles--and everyone in them. It can carry up to eight tons of bombs or missiles, but its primary weapon is the [[GatlingGood GAU-8 Avenger Gatling gun]]. A seven-barreled, 30mm cannon with '''UNIMAGINABLE''' [[MoreDakka amounts of dakka]][[note]]Tech Specs: it fires up to seventy rounds per second, each bullet weighing close to a pound ([[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/30mm_5044.jpg Image of it next to a 20oz Coke bottle and a .50 BMG round]]), at 3,250 feet per second muzzle velocity. The ''recoil'' from the gun is more powerful than one of the plane's 2 engines ''at full throttle.''[[/note]]; you do ''not'' want to be on the receiving end of it. If you are, your coffin will probably be about the size of a snuff tin. Note that the A-10 was literally designed around the GAU-8, which is roughly the size of a small sports car.\\
15th May '16 5:55:13 AM WiddershinsDaughter
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