History UsefulNotes / WorldWarII

4th Dec '16 10:09:31 AM MAI742
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World War II, or the Second World War (often abbreviated as WWII or [=WW2=]), was a global war fought from 1939[[note]]Nazi Germany's invasion of Poland is generally accepted as the start date of World War 2, though several other conflicts that would be incorporated into the larger international conflict were already underway, and as America didn't get involved until Pearl Harbour in 1941 many Americans consider the Pearl Harbour attack as the start of World War 2 proper[[/note]] to 1945. It involved 62 out of the 73 existent states at that time, which eventually formed two loose, opposing military alliances: the Allies or Allied powers (China, France, the UK, the USA, the USSR among others) against the Axis powers (chiefly UsefulNotes/NaziGermany, UsefulNotes/FascistItaly and UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan).

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World War II, or the Second World War (often abbreviated as WWII or [=WW2=]), was a global war fought from 1939[[note]]Nazi Germany's invasion of Poland is generally accepted as the start date of World War 2, though several other conflicts that would be incorporated into the larger international conflict were already underway, and as America the Soviet Union didn't get involved until Pearl Harbour operation Barbarossa in 1941 many Americans Citizens of the former Soviet Union consider the Pearl Harbour German attack of 22/6/1941 as the start of World War 2 proper[[/note]] proper. Likewise the USA's self-obsession means that it's schoolchildren are sometimes, to this day, taught that the war only 'really began in December 1941' with the Japanese and German declarations of war upon the USA [[/note]] to 1945. It involved 62 out of the 73 existent states at that time, which eventually formed two loose, opposing military alliances: the Allies or Allied powers (China, France, the UK, the USA, the USSR among others) against the Axis powers (chiefly UsefulNotes/NaziGermany, UsefulNotes/FascistItaly and UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan).
4th Dec '16 9:14:52 AM passivesmoking
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World War II, or the Second World War (often abbreviated as WWII or [=WW2=]), was a global war fought from 1939 to 1945. It involved 62 out of the 73 existent states at that time, which eventually formed two loose, opposing military alliances: the Allies or Allied powers (China, France, the UK, the USA, the USSR among others) against the Axis powers (chiefly UsefulNotes/NaziGermany, UsefulNotes/FascistItaly and UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan).

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World War II, or the Second World War (often abbreviated as WWII or [=WW2=]), was a global war fought from 1939 1939[[note]]Nazi Germany's invasion of Poland is generally accepted as the start date of World War 2, though several other conflicts that would be incorporated into the larger international conflict were already underway, and as America didn't get involved until Pearl Harbour in 1941 many Americans consider the Pearl Harbour attack as the start of World War 2 proper[[/note]] to 1945. It involved 62 out of the 73 existent states at that time, which eventually formed two loose, opposing military alliances: the Allies or Allied powers (China, France, the UK, the USA, the USSR among others) against the Axis powers (chiefly UsefulNotes/NaziGermany, UsefulNotes/FascistItaly and UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan).
12th Nov '16 8:05:44 AM JustKnown
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26th Oct '16 4:36:39 AM Morgenthaler
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* AmericaWonWorldWarII: The US's media depictions of the war are often accused of ignoring the contributions of other states, nations, and nation-states to (winning) the war - with the USSR's pivotal role in particular [[FanonDiscontinuity being almost completely ignored]] due to (lingering) [[UsefulNotes/HistoryOfTheColdWar Cold-War]] [[RedScare anti-Communist]] sentiment. Post-Soviet Russian media might now quite justly be accused of ''Russia Wins The War'' due to it ignoring both the contributions of the other republics that made up the USSR (Ukraine, Estonia, etc.. etc.) as well as all the other countries and peoples who fought The Axis. The historian Stephen Ambrose points out that the title of this trope is literally true, in that although (for example) Britain was nominally one of the victors, it survived the war with major bomb damage and in extreme debt, whereas America was the only allied nation that finished the war better off than it had started it.

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* AmericaWonWorldWarII: AmericaWonWorldWarII:
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The US's media depictions of the war are often accused of ignoring the contributions of other states, nations, and nation-states to (winning) the war - with the USSR's pivotal role in particular [[FanonDiscontinuity being almost completely ignored]] due to (lingering) [[UsefulNotes/HistoryOfTheColdWar Cold-War]] [[RedScare anti-Communist]] sentiment. Post-Soviet Russian media might now quite justly be accused of ''Russia Wins The War'' due to it ignoring both the contributions of the other republics that made up the USSR (Ukraine, Estonia, etc.. etc.) as well as all the other countries and peoples who fought The Axis. The historian Stephen Ambrose points out that the title of this trope is literally true, in that although (for example) Britain was nominally one of the victors, it survived the war with major bomb damage and in extreme debt, whereas America was the only allied nation that finished the war better off than it had started it.
2nd Sep '16 10:42:11 AM Tromboneman
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** An inverse trope might well be 'Nazis Fight Alone'. The only Axis troops ever seen in most media are the Germans - the Italians very rarely make an appearance (aside from North Africa, but not always), and the Hungarians, Slovaks, Romanians, Bulgarians, Finns, and various SS volunteer units like the Northland (Scaninavians), Charlemagne (French), and Blue (Spanish) divisions are almost entirely absent. Quisling logistics troops including the Hiwis (Soviet citizens who served the ''Heer''), are also never seen.

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** An inverse trope might well be 'Nazis Fight Alone'. The only Axis troops ever seen in most media are the Germans - the Italians very rarely make an appearance (aside from North Africa, but not always), and the Hungarians, Slovaks, Romanians, Bulgarians, Finns, and various SS volunteer units like the Northland (Scaninavians), (Scandinavians), Charlemagne (French), and Blue (Spanish) divisions are almost entirely absent. Quisling logistics troops including the Hiwis (Soviet citizens who served the ''Heer''), are also never seen.
28th Aug '16 12:01:44 PM Morgenthaler
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* NazisWithGnarlyWeapons: A detailed guide about the German military at that time.

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* NazisWithGnarlyWeapons: UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons: A detailed guide about the German military at that time.
28th May '16 8:34:30 AM MAI742
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It was the most intensive and extensive war in history, with more than 100 million people serving in military units. In a state of "total war", the major participants eventually placed their entire financial, industrial, and scientific capabilities at the service of the war effort, thereby erasing the distinction between civilian and military resources. This included the enslavement of enemy POW and civilians by the Axis powers. The European Axis powers also perpetrated a number of genocides to maximise their economic performance and national security during the war, measures which generaly considered part of and are largely indistinguishable from UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust. Had the Axis been victorious, these programmes of sterilization and extermination would have been expanded.

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It was the most intensive and extensive war in history, with more than 100 million people serving in military units. In a state of "total war", the major participants eventually placed their entire financial, industrial, and scientific capabilities at the service of the war effort, thereby erasing the distinction between civilian and military resources. This included the enslavement of enemy POW and civilians as manual labourers, or coerced 'recruitment' as police and soldiers, by the Axis powers. The European Axis powers also perpetrated a number of genocides to maximise their economic performance and national security during the war, measures which generaly war. These programmes of enslavement and genocide are considered part of and are largely indistinguishable from UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust. the UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust, which was integral to the War Aims of the European Axis. Had the Axis they been victorious, these programmes of sterilization and extermination would have been expanded.expanded considerably.
28th May '16 8:30:46 AM MAI742
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It was the most intensive and extensive war in history, with more than 100 million people serving in military units. In a state of "total war", the major participants eventually placed their entire financial, industrial, and scientific capabilities at the service of the war effort, thereby erasing the distinction between civilian and military resources. Marked by significant events involving (organized) massacres and genocides, including UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust, large-scale aerial bombardment of civilian populations and the only use of nuclear weapons in warfare, it resulted in some 50 to 70 million dead (some higher estimates go to a nice round 100 million by counting the unborn... or just by simple, and usually not deliberate, miscounting[[note]] One infamous error made by someone compiling figures for military dead, missing, and wounded in the Soviet-German War/Ostfront was made by someone missing a zero, thereby claiming that a Soviet force lost more troops in a single operation/campaign ''than there were in the entire Red Army''. Someone else also arrived at an infamous estimate of 40+ million Soviet dead (versus a usual estimate of no more than 28 million) during the war by effectively mis-counting 'wounded' soldiers as 'dead' soldiers (no more than 20-30% of 'wounded' soldiers died at any point; this guy assumed that it was considerably more than that) and failing to account for the Poles ethnically cleansed (forcibly evicted) from the western USSR in the immediate post-war period. Although the USSR was supposedly his specialty, he also put Chinese dead at 30-40 million (versus a usual estimate of no more than c.10-20 million) by choosing the highest possible estimate of war-dead and attributing the c.10 million dead of the later Chinese Civil War and post-war CCP purges (1946-50) to the Sino-Japanese War (1937-45). This is how he managed to arrive at a figure of 100 million dead, even though there's really no way it could've been more than 70. [[/note]]) - making this war the deadliest and costliest conflict in human history.

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It was the most intensive and extensive war in history, with more than 100 million people serving in military units. In a state of "total war", the major participants eventually placed their entire financial, industrial, and scientific capabilities at the service of the war effort, thereby erasing the distinction between civilian and military resources. Marked by significant events involving (organized) massacres This included the enslavement of enemy POW and genocides, including UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust, civilians by the Axis powers. The European Axis powers also perpetrated a number of genocides to maximise their economic performance and national security during the war, measures which generaly considered part of and are largely indistinguishable from UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust. Had the Axis been victorious, these programmes of sterilization and extermination would have been expanded.

The war was also marked by the
large-scale aerial bombardment of civilian populations and the only use of nuclear weapons in warfare, it and resulted in some 50 to 70 million dead (some higher estimates go to a nice round 100 million by counting the unborn... or just by simple, and usually not deliberate, miscounting[[note]] One infamous error made by someone compiling figures for military dead, missing, and wounded in the Soviet-German War/Ostfront was made by someone missing a zero, thereby claiming that a Soviet force lost more troops in a single operation/campaign ''than there were in the entire Red Army''. Someone else also arrived at an infamous estimate of 40+ million Soviet dead (versus a usual estimate of no more than 28 million) during the war by effectively mis-counting 'wounded' soldiers as 'dead' soldiers (no more than 20-30% of 'wounded' soldiers died at any point; this guy assumed that it was considerably more than that) and failing to account for the Poles ethnically cleansed (forcibly evicted) from the western USSR in the immediate post-war period. Although the USSR was supposedly his specialty, he also put Chinese dead at 30-40 million (versus a usual estimate of no more than c.10-20 million) by choosing the highest possible estimate of war-dead and attributing the c.10 million dead of the later Chinese Civil War and post-war CCP purges (1946-50) to the Sino-Japanese War (1937-45). This is how he managed to arrive at a figure of 100 million dead, even though there's really no way it could've been more than 70. [[/note]]) - making this war the deadliest and costliest conflict in human history.
12th Apr '16 2:22:50 AM 06tele
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* AmericaWonWorldWarII: The US's media depictions of the war are often accused of ignoring the contributions of other states, nations, and nation-states to (winning) the war - with the USSR's pivotal role in particular [[FanonDiscontinuity being almost completely ignored]] due to (lingering) [[UsefulNotes/HistoryOfTheColdWar Cold-War]] [[RedScare anti-Communist]] sentiment. Post-Soviet Russian media might now quite justly be accused of ''Russia Wins The War'' due to it ignoring both the contributions of the other republics that made up the USSR (Ukraine, Estonia, etc.. etc.) as well as all the other countries and peoples who fought The Axis.

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* AmericaWonWorldWarII: The US's media depictions of the war are often accused of ignoring the contributions of other states, nations, and nation-states to (winning) the war - with the USSR's pivotal role in particular [[FanonDiscontinuity being almost completely ignored]] due to (lingering) [[UsefulNotes/HistoryOfTheColdWar Cold-War]] [[RedScare anti-Communist]] sentiment. Post-Soviet Russian media might now quite justly be accused of ''Russia Wins The War'' due to it ignoring both the contributions of the other republics that made up the USSR (Ukraine, Estonia, etc.. etc.) as well as all the other countries and peoples who fought The Axis. The historian Stephen Ambrose points out that the title of this trope is literally true, in that although (for example) Britain was nominally one of the victors, it survived the war with major bomb damage and in extreme debt, whereas America was the only allied nation that finished the war better off than it had started it.
12th Apr '16 2:20:00 AM 06tele
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* AwakeningTheSleepingGiant: The TropeNamer. The USA was nominally neutral in this war, although its trade embargo against Japan and its lend-lease policy with the British and quiet participation protecting British shipping from German U-Boat attacks on its side of the Atlantic was annoying the Axis powers. However, the Axis powers, despite warnings from IgnoredExpert authorities like Admiral Yamamoto, eventually went out of their way to provoke the United States into joining the fight. The result was that a country with a large population and a massive industrial base that was completely beyond the reach of any military attack beyond their shipping with an underestimated will to win at almost any cost now joined Britain and the USSR to crush their enemies. As for the Allied leaders like Prime Minister Churchill of Britain, he went to bed after hearing the news of the Americans joining the fight for a welcome rest knowing that America is now joining the fight as a full ally.

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* AwakeningTheSleepingGiant: The TropeNamer. The USA was nominally neutral in this at the beginning of the war, although its trade embargo against Japan and its lend-lease policy with the British and quiet participation protecting British shipping from German U-Boat attacks on its side of the Atlantic was annoying the Axis powers. However, the Axis powers, despite warnings from IgnoredExpert authorities like Admiral Yamamoto, eventually went out of their way to provoke the United States into joining the fight. The result was that a country with a large population and a massive industrial base that was completely beyond the reach of any military attack beyond their shipping (except for its shipping), and with an underestimated will to win at almost any cost cost, was now joined on the same side as Britain and the USSR to crush their enemies. As for the Allied leaders like USSR. The night Britain's Prime Minister Winston Churchill of Britain, heard about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, he went to bed after hearing the news with a deep sense of the Americans joining the fight for a welcome rest knowing relief, because he knew that at long last America is now joining was going to join the fight as war and that allied victory, although it might take a full ally.long time, was nevertheless inevitable.
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