History UsefulNotes / VictimBlaming

20th Apr '16 8:00:48 AM IzzyMaleficent
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* Be careful with the words "You're just asking for it!", because no one ever is. Unless someone is deliberately harming or violating the rights of others (and no, no one has the right to be exist in a perfect vacuum where they never have to hear or see anything objectionable), they are not doing anything that gives those others the right to punish or retaliate against them. An intelligent being (or a group of intelligent beings) that presents a danger to others because of their intolerance does ''not'' mean that anyone they choose not to tolerate is "asking for it". Doing this holds the victim responsible for the behavior of the perpetrator, and absolves the perpetrator of being responsible for their own behavior. Unless the perpetrator is a very small child, a mindless animal, or otherwise mentally compromised, their inability to behave properly is no one's fault but their own.

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* Be careful with the words "You're just asking for it!", it!" and "You bring it on yourself", because no one ever is. Unless someone is deliberately harming or violating the rights of others (and no, no one has the right to be exist in a perfect vacuum where they never have to hear or see anything objectionable), they are not doing anything that gives those others the right to punish or retaliate against them. An intelligent being (or a group of intelligent beings) that presents a danger to others because of their intolerance does ''not'' mean that anyone they choose not to tolerate is "asking for it". Doing this holds the victim responsible for the behavior of the perpetrator, and absolves the perpetrator of being responsible for their own behavior. Unless the perpetrator is a very small child, a mindless animal, or otherwise mentally compromised, their inability to behave properly is no one's fault but their own.
18th Apr '16 10:49:07 PM MAI742
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* Victim blaming comforts you by reassuring you that bad things only happen to people who 'deserve' it because they didn't 'do the right thing': '''"The world operates according to simple cause-and-effect"'''
* Victim blaming gives you the illusion of control over your fate, giving you hope that bad things won't happen to you if you 'do the right thing': '''"I can't be a victim."'''

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* Victim blaming comforts you by reassuring you that bad things only happen to people who 'deserve' it because they didn't 'do the right thing': '''"The world operates according '''"People choose to simple cause-and-effect"'''
* Victim blaming gives you the illusion of control over your fate, giving you hope that bad things won't happen to you if you 'do the right thing': '''"I can't be a victim.
become victims."'''
* Victim blaming gives you the illusion of control over your fate, giving you hope that bad things won't happen to you if you 'do the right thing': '''"I can't be a victim because I choose not to be one."'''



* Bad things happen to people who don't 'deserve' it: '''"The world is complex."'''

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* Bad things happen to people who don't 'deserve' it: '''"The world is complex.'''"People have no choice in becoming victims."'''
18th Apr '16 4:40:58 AM MAI742
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* Victim blaming comforts you by reassuring you that bad things only happen to people who 'deserve' it because they didn't 'do the right thing': '''"I am better than victims."'''

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* Victim blaming comforts you by reassuring you that bad things only happen to people who 'deserve' it because they didn't 'do the right thing': '''"I am better than victims."''''''"The world operates according to simple cause-and-effect"'''



* Bad things happen to people who don't 'deserve' it: '''"Victims are just like me."'''

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* Bad things happen to people who don't 'deserve' it: '''"Victims are just like me.'''"The world is complex."'''
17th Apr '16 4:29:56 AM MAI742
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* Victim blaming comforts you by reassuring you that bad things only happen to people who 'deserve' it because they didn't 'do the right thing'.
* Victim blaming gives you the illusion of control over your fate, giving you hope that bad things won't happen to you if you 'do the right thing'.

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* Victim blaming comforts you by reassuring you that bad things only happen to people who 'deserve' it because they didn't 'do the right thing'.
thing': '''"I am better than victims."'''
* Victim blaming gives you the illusion of control over your fate, giving you hope that bad things won't happen to you if you 'do the right thing'.
thing': '''"I can't be a victim."'''



* Bad things happen to people who don't 'deserve' it.
* Even if you 'do the right thing' bad things could still happen to ''you''.

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* Bad things happen to people who don't 'deserve' it.
it: '''"Victims are just like me."'''
* Even if you 'do the right thing' bad things could still happen to ''you''.
''you'': '''"I could be a victim."'''
17th Apr '16 4:23:45 AM MAI742
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* The world is a place where bad things happen to people who don't 'deserve' it.

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* The world is a place where bad Bad things happen to people who don't 'deserve' it.



We are not instinctively rational beings which decide what to believe on the basis of rational thought. Instead, we instinctively use our reasoning to justify what we believe already. Because belief in victim blaming offers us such great comfort and hope, we look for information which justifies our belief in it. Likewise, because the ''in''-validity of victim blaming fills us with fear we reject or question information which threatens that belief. In this way we are able to continue believing in victim blaming even if there is no rational, factual basis for doing so. We just have to want to believe in it enough.

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We are not instinctively rational beings which decide what to believe on the basis of rational thought. Instead, we instinctively use our reasoning to justify what we believe already. Because belief Belief in victim blaming offers us such great comfort and hope, and abandoning it would give us cause to fear. Accordingly, we look for remember information which justifies our belief in it. Likewise, because the ''in''-validity it and ignore or reject information which inspires doubt. The factual invalidity of victim blaming fills us with fear is irrelevant: if we reject or question information which threatens that belief. In this way wanted to do so badly enough, we are able to continue could keep believing in victim blaming even if there is no rational, factual basis for doing so. We just have to want to believe in it enough.forever.
17th Apr '16 4:05:31 AM MAI742
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Victim blaming is a persistent belief because of this hope-comfort/fear dynamic: acknowledging the invalidity of belief in victim blaming is deeply unappealing because the root causes of belief in victim blaming are emotional, not rational.

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Victim blaming is a persistent belief because of this hope-comfort/fear dynamic: acknowledging We are not instinctively rational beings which decide what to believe on the invalidity basis of rational thought. Instead, we instinctively use our reasoning to justify what we believe already. Because belief in victim blaming is deeply unappealing offers us such great comfort and hope, we look for information which justifies our belief in it. Likewise, because the root causes ''in''-validity of belief victim blaming fills us with fear we reject or question information which threatens that belief. In this way we are able to continue believing in victim blaming are emotional, not rational.even if there is no rational, factual basis for doing so. We just have to want to believe in it enough.
17th Apr '16 3:46:31 AM MAI742
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[[AC: Causes]]

Belief in victim blaming stems from a desire for comfort and hope:

* Victim blaming comforts you by reassuring you that bad things only happen to people who 'deserve' it because they didn't 'do the right thing'.
* Victim blaming gives you the illusion of control over your fate, giving you hope that bad things won't happen to you if you 'do the right thing'.

At the root of this desire for comfort and hope are two fears. Fears that:

* The world is a place where bad things happen to people who don't 'deserve' it.
* Even if you 'do the right thing' bad things could still happen to ''you''.

Victim blaming is a persistent belief because of this hope-comfort/fear dynamic: acknowledging the invalidity of belief in victim blaming is deeply unappealing because the root causes of belief in victim blaming are emotional, not rational.
6th Apr '16 1:32:53 PM ironballs16
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* Blaming X "sinful behavior" for Y disaster (though this is almost exclusively the purview of TheFundamentalist).
26th Mar '16 2:23:08 PM Jeduthun
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* Blaming a DomesticAbuse victim for somehow provoking their abuser into violence. [[UsefulNotes/{{Abuse}} Abusers]] themselves are often known to say things like "WhyDidYouMakeMeHitYou" to portray their actions as NeverMyFault.
7th Jul '15 4:46:58 AM EgoProxy
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** It also implies that the perpetrator has the understood right to deliberately harm another person, if that person meets certain criteria. An easy reference is any movie with an interracial romance where one partner is told they're "asking for trouble" because the other partner's family will have them killed if they found out; regardless of how ''likely'' the negative reaction will be, that doesn't mean it's the lover's fault for falling in love with the wrong person if the family decides to murder the lover, and it doesn't mean the family is morally justified in killing the lover because they don't approve of his or her race.
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