History UsefulNotes / TheBechdelTest

19th Sep '17 8:50:45 AM ThomasProofreader
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For other tropes regarding the representation of gender in media, see TheSmurfettePrinciple (one female character included strictly for demographic appeal in a work with many male characters, making it impossible to pass rule 1), NeverASelfMadeWoman (a female character is only relevant to the story by her relationship to a man), GenderEqualEnsemble (an EnsembleCast has nearly 50-50 ratio of genders), and ChromosomeCasting (works featuring only male characters or only female, but not both). The prevalence of TokenRomance and RomanticPlotTumor contribute to works failing rule 3 of the test. On the other hand, works in the PinkBishoujoGhetto will usually pass, if only for the dearth of male characters.

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For other tropes regarding the representation of gender in media, see TheSmurfettePrinciple (one female character included strictly for demographic appeal in a work with many male characters, making it impossible to pass rule 1), NeverASelfMadeWoman (a female character is only relevant to the story by her relationship to a man), GenderEqualEnsemble (an EnsembleCast has nearly 50-50 ratio of genders), and ChromosomeCasting (works featuring only male characters or only female, but not both). The prevalence of TokenRomance and RomanticPlotTumor contribute to works failing rule 3 of the test. On the other hand, works in the PinkBishoujoGhetto ImprobablyFemaleCast will usually pass, if only for the dearth of male characters.
7th Sep '17 8:55:33 AM Sinister_Sandwich
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* [[Film/WonderWoman2017 2017's live-action]] ''[[Film/WonderWoman2017 Wonder Woman]]'' passes the Furiosa test.
21st Aug '17 8:45:52 PM OnGreenDolphinStreet
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* Creator/{{NPR}} GameShow ''Radio/AskMeAnother'' [[http://n.pr/2kGgSu1 based a game on their 02/17/17 show on the test.]] Contestants had a scene from a movie that unexpectedly allows it to pass the Bechdel test described to them and had to name the film. Answers included ''Film/DieHard'', ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', and ''Film/FerrisBeullersDayOff''.

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* Creator/{{NPR}} GameShow ''Radio/AskMeAnother'' [[http://n.pr/2kGgSu1 based a game on their 02/17/17 show on the test.]] Contestants had a scene from a movie that unexpectedly allows it to pass the Bechdel test described to them and had to name the film. Answers included ''Film/DieHard'', ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', and ''Film/FerrisBeullersDayOff''.''Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff''.
21st Aug '17 8:45:28 PM OnGreenDolphinStreet
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There are also lesser-known variations of the test, such as UsefulNotes/DeggansRule (aka Race Bechdel Test), in which two characters of color talk about anything other than the white leads, the [[https://www.glaad.org/sri/2014/vitorusso Vito Russo Test aka gay Bechdel Test]], in which two LGBT characters talk about everything other than straight people, and the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[GenderFlip with the roles of men and women swapped]].[[note]]An estimated 90% of works pass the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[http://www.passthebechdeltest.com/faq according to this link]], which, in comparison to the Bechdel Test, highlights the gender disparity problems.[[/note]] The film ''Film/MadMaxFuryRoad'' has inspired the "Furiosa Test" ([[https://twitter.com/photopuck/status/607259980631273473 Do any misogynists ban this work?]]) and ''Film/PacificRim'' inspired the "Mako Mori Test" ([[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/8695-Blecch-Dull-Tests Does a female lead]] get a CharacterArc that doesn't revolve around male characters?). And there is even the MacGyver Test, inspired by [[Series/{{MacGyver}} television series of the same name]] that determines the comparative shallowness and stereotypical nature of most male characters in fiction by asking questions like "Does the male protagonist solve problems in creative and intelligent ways, only using violence as an absolute last resort?" (It is just as shocking to discover how many films and shows fail ''that'' test as fail the Bechdel Test.

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There are also lesser-known variations of the test, such as UsefulNotes/DeggansRule (aka Race Bechdel Test), in which two characters of color talk about anything other than the white leads, the [[https://www.glaad.org/sri/2014/vitorusso Vito Russo Test aka gay Bechdel Test]], in which two LGBT characters talk about everything other than straight people, and the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[GenderFlip with the roles of men and women swapped]].[[note]]An estimated 90% of works pass the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[http://www.passthebechdeltest.com/faq according to this link]], which, in comparison to the Bechdel Test, highlights the gender disparity problems.[[/note]] The film ''Film/MadMaxFuryRoad'' has inspired the "Furiosa Test" ([[https://twitter.com/photopuck/status/607259980631273473 Do any misogynists ban this work?]]) and ''Film/PacificRim'' inspired the "Mako Mori Test" ([[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/8695-Blecch-Dull-Tests Does a female lead]] get a CharacterArc that doesn't revolve around male characters?). And there is even the MacGyver Test, "[=MacGyver=] Test", inspired by [[Series/{{MacGyver}} television series of the same name]] that determines the comparative shallowness and stereotypical nature of most male characters in fiction by asking questions like "Does the male protagonist solve problems in creative and intelligent ways, only using violence as an absolute last resort?" (It is just as shocking to discover how many films and shows fail ''that'' test as fail the Bechdel Test.
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* Creator/{{NPR}} GameShow ''Radio/AskMeAnother [[http://n.pr/2kGgSu1 based a game on their 02/17/17 show on the test.]] Contestants had a scene from a movie that unexpectedly allows it to pass the Bechdel test described to them and had to name the film. Answers included ''Film/DieHard'', ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', and ''Film/FerrisBeullersDayOff''.

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* Creator/{{NPR}} GameShow ''Radio/AskMeAnother ''Radio/AskMeAnother'' [[http://n.pr/2kGgSu1 based a game on their 02/17/17 show on the test.]] Contestants had a scene from a movie that unexpectedly allows it to pass the Bechdel test described to them and had to name the film. Answers included ''Film/DieHard'', ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', and ''Film/FerrisBeullersDayOff''.
5th Aug '17 2:41:24 PM PersonalPOV
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There are also lesser-known variations of the test, such as UsefulNotes/DeggansRule (aka Race Bechdel Test), in which two characters of color talk about anything other than the white leads, and the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[GenderFlip with the roles of men and women swapped]].[[note]]An estimated 90% of works pass the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[http://www.passthebechdeltest.com/faq according to this link]], which, in comparison to the Bechdel Test, highlights the gender disparity problems.[[/note]] The film ''Film/MadMaxFuryRoad'' has inspired the "Furiosa Test" ([[https://twitter.com/photopuck/status/607259980631273473 Do any misogynists ban this work?]]) and ''Film/PacificRim'' inspired the "Mako Mori Test" ([[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/8695-Blecch-Dull-Tests Does a female lead]] get a CharacterArc that doesn't revolve around male characters?). And there is even the MacGyver Test, inspired by [[Series/{{MacGyver}} television series of the same name]] that determines the comparative shallowness and stereotypical nature of most male characters in fiction by asking questions like "Does the male protagonist solve problems in creative and intelligent ways, only using violence as an absolute last resort?" (It is just as shocking to discover how many films and shows fail ''that'' test as fail the Bechdel Test.

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There are also lesser-known variations of the test, such as UsefulNotes/DeggansRule (aka Race Bechdel Test), in which two characters of color talk about anything other than the white leads, the [[https://www.glaad.org/sri/2014/vitorusso Vito Russo Test aka gay Bechdel Test]], in which two LGBT characters talk about everything other than straight people, and the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[GenderFlip with the roles of men and women swapped]].[[note]]An estimated 90% of works pass the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[http://www.passthebechdeltest.com/faq according to this link]], which, in comparison to the Bechdel Test, highlights the gender disparity problems.[[/note]] The film ''Film/MadMaxFuryRoad'' has inspired the "Furiosa Test" ([[https://twitter.com/photopuck/status/607259980631273473 Do any misogynists ban this work?]]) and ''Film/PacificRim'' inspired the "Mako Mori Test" ([[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/8695-Blecch-Dull-Tests Does a female lead]] get a CharacterArc that doesn't revolve around male characters?). And there is even the MacGyver Test, inspired by [[Series/{{MacGyver}} television series of the same name]] that determines the comparative shallowness and stereotypical nature of most male characters in fiction by asking questions like "Does the male protagonist solve problems in creative and intelligent ways, only using violence as an absolute last resort?" (It is just as shocking to discover how many films and shows fail ''that'' test as fail the Bechdel Test.



-->'''Rodriguez''': Iíve been making movies with [[Creator/JordanaBrewster Jordana]], who plays the sister of [[Creator/VinDiesel Domestic Toretto]], for 16 years, and I can count on one hand how many lines Iíve had with her. I think thatís pathetic, and itís lack of creativity.

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-->'''Rodriguez''': Iíve been making movies with [[Creator/JordanaBrewster Jordana]], who plays the sister of [[Creator/VinDiesel Domestic Dominic Toretto]], for 16 years, and I can count on one hand how many lines Iíve had with her. I think thatís pathetic, and itís lack of creativity.
29th Jul '17 10:36:49 AM BigJaredMonkey
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There are also lesser-known variations of the test, such as UsefulNotes/DeggansRule (aka Race Bechdel Test), in which two characters of color talk about anything other than the white leads, and the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[GenderFlip with the roles of men and women swapped]].[[note]]An estimated 90% of works pass the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[http://www.passthebechdeltest.com/faq according to this link]], which, in comparison to the Bechdel Test, highlights the gender disparity problems.[[/note]] The film ''Film/MadMaxFuryRoad'' has inspired the "Furiosa Test" ([[https://twitter.com/photopuck/status/607259980631273473 Do any misogynists ban this work?]]) and ''Film/PacificRim'' inspired the "Mako Mori Test" ([[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/8695-Blecch-Dull-Tests Does a female lead]] get a CharacterArc that doesn't revolve around male characters?).

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There are also lesser-known variations of the test, such as UsefulNotes/DeggansRule (aka Race Bechdel Test), in which two characters of color talk about anything other than the white leads, and the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[GenderFlip with the roles of men and women swapped]].[[note]]An estimated 90% of works pass the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[http://www.passthebechdeltest.com/faq according to this link]], which, in comparison to the Bechdel Test, highlights the gender disparity problems.[[/note]] The film ''Film/MadMaxFuryRoad'' has inspired the "Furiosa Test" ([[https://twitter.com/photopuck/status/607259980631273473 Do any misogynists ban this work?]]) and ''Film/PacificRim'' inspired the "Mako Mori Test" ([[http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/8695-Blecch-Dull-Tests Does a female lead]] get a CharacterArc that doesn't revolve around male characters?).
characters?). And there is even the MacGyver Test, inspired by [[Series/{{MacGyver}} television series of the same name]] that determines the comparative shallowness and stereotypical nature of most male characters in fiction by asking questions like "Does the male protagonist solve problems in creative and intelligent ways, only using violence as an absolute last resort?" (It is just as shocking to discover how many films and shows fail ''that'' test as fail the Bechdel Test.
23rd Jul '17 12:46:24 PM Sakubara
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** Although on that note, [[CriticalResearchFailure there is no letter grading scale for the test]]. Just a regular pass or fail system.
22nd Jul '17 6:50:10 AM Ohio9
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There's nothing necessarily wrong with any film flunking the Bechdel Test. Indeed, there are films with female protagonists that fail it, such as the 2013 movie ''Film/Gravity'', a movie about a female astronaut attempting to survive a disaster in space. A fair number of top-notch works have legitimate reasons for [[ChromosomeCasting including no women]]. What's a problem is that ''so many'' movies fail the test, creating a pattern which says [[UnfortunateImplications uncomfortable things]] about the way Hollywood handles gender.

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There's nothing necessarily wrong with any film flunking the Bechdel Test. Indeed, there are films with female protagonists that fail it, such as the 2013 movie ''Film/Gravity'', ''Film/{{Gravity}}'', a movie about a female astronaut attempting to survive a disaster in space. A fair number of top-notch works have legitimate reasons for [[ChromosomeCasting including no women]]. What's a problem is that ''so many'' movies fail the test, creating a pattern which says [[UnfortunateImplications uncomfortable things]] about the way Hollywood handles gender.
22nd Jul '17 6:48:49 AM Ohio9
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There's nothing necessarily wrong with any film flunking the Bechdel Test. A fair number of top-notch works have legitimate reasons for [[ChromosomeCasting including no women]]. What's a problem is that ''so many'' movies fail the test, creating a pattern which says [[UnfortunateImplications uncomfortable things]] about the way Hollywood handles gender.

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There's nothing necessarily wrong with any film flunking the Bechdel Test. Indeed, there are films with female protagonists that fail it, such as the 2013 movie ''Film/Gravity'', a movie about a female astronaut attempting to survive a disaster in space. A fair number of top-notch works have legitimate reasons for [[ChromosomeCasting including no women]]. What's a problem is that ''so many'' movies fail the test, creating a pattern which says [[UnfortunateImplications uncomfortable things]] about the way Hollywood handles gender.
12th Jul '17 10:02:56 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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For instance, ''Film/ManosTheHandsOfFate'' and ''The Bikini Carwash Company'', films whose treatment of women range from incredibly {{squick}}y to tasteless {{fanservice}}, have passed the test. In fact, the original example of a movie that passes is ''Film/{{Alien}}'', which, while it has feminist subtexts, is mostly just a sci-fi/action/horror flick. And believe it or not, the video for Sir-Mix-a-Lot's rather sexist ode to the female ass, "Baby Got Back", '''''also''''' passes the Bechdel Test.[[note]]At the start of the video, two young women are incredulously discussing another woman's ass: 'Oh my god, Becky, look at her ''butt''! It is so big.'[[/note]]

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For instance, ''Film/ManosTheHandsOfFate'' and ''Film/ManosTheHandsOfFate'', ''The Bikini Carwash Company'', Company'' and ''Film/{{Showgirls}}'', films whose treatment of women range from incredibly {{squick}}y to tasteless {{fanservice}}, have passed the test. In fact, the original example of a movie that passes is ''Film/{{Alien}}'', which, while it has feminist subtexts, is mostly just a sci-fi/action/horror flick. And believe it or not, the video for Sir-Mix-a-Lot's rather sexist ode to the female ass, "Baby Got Back", '''''also''''' passes the Bechdel Test.[[note]]At the start of the video, two young women are incredulously discussing another woman's ass: 'Oh my god, Becky, look at her ''butt''! It is so big.'[[/note]]
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