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17th May '13 8:16:19 AM snowyowl0

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2nd May '13 4:47:22 AM Nithael

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This is about works that ''reference'' this test, not works that ''pass'' it.

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How in the world is that a spoiler?

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The test is often misunderstood. The requirements are just what they say they are -- it doesn't make any difference if, for instance, the male characters the women talk about are their fathers, sons, brothers, platonic friends, mortal enemies, patients they're trying to save or murderers they're trying to catch, rather than romantic partners. Conversely, if a work seems to pass, it doesn't matter if male characters are present when the female characters talk, nor does it matter if the women only talk about stereotypically girly topics like shoe shopping -- or even relationships, as long as it's not relationships ''with men''.

This is because '''the Bechdel Test is ''not'' meant to give a scorecard of a work's overall level of feminism'''. It is entirely possible for a film to pass without having overt feminist themes -- in fact, the original example of a movie that passes is ''Film/{{Alien}}'', which, while it has feminist subtexts, is mostly just a sci-fi/action/horror flick. A movie can easily pass the Bechdel Test and still be incredibly misogynistic. Conversely, it's also possible for a story to fail the test and still be strongly feminist in other ways, and there's nothing necessarily wrong with that. What's a problem is that it becomes a pattern -- when ''so many'' movies fail the test, while very few show male characters whose lives seem to revolve around women, that says [[UnfortunateImplications uncomfortable things]] about the way Hollywood handles gender. There are also lesser-known variations of the rule, such as the [[DeggansRule Race Bechdel Test]], in which two characters of colour talk about anything other than the white leads and the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[GenderFlip with the roles of men and women swapped]].

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This is because the Bechdel Test is ''not'' meant to give a scorecard of a work's overall level of feminism. It is entirely possible for a film to pass without having overt feminist themes -- in fact, the original example of a movie that passes is ''Film/{{Alien}}'', which, while it has feminist subtexts, is mostly just a sci-fi/action/horror flick. A movie can easily pass the Bechdel Test and still be incredibly misogynistic. Conversely, it's also possible for a story to fail the test and still be strongly feminist in other ways, and there's nothing necessarily wrong with that. What's a problem is that it becomes a pattern -- when ''so many'' movies fail the test, while very few show male characters whose lives seem to revolve around women, that says [[UnfortunateImplications uncomfortable things]] about the way Hollywood handles gender. There are also lesser-known variations of the rule, such as the [[DeggansRule Race Bechdel Test]], in which two characters of colour talk about anything other than the white leads and the Reverse Bechdel Test, [[GenderFlip with the roles of men and women swapped]].

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