History UsefulNotes / TheAmericanCivilWar

28th Mar '17 7:54:02 AM Jhonny
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** American and Confederate doctors and nurses from that time period get an undeservedly bad reputation. Yes, they were working with limited knowledge. However, a soldier with a serious but non-fatal wound who got prompt medical care had about an 80% chance of survival. They didn't have access to antibiotics (Penicillin wasn't widely available until well after WWII, and that's the first one) and did the best they could. While still NightmareFuel, the aid those doctors and nurses gave was the best any army up to that time ever had.

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** American and Confederate doctors and nurses from that time period get an undeservedly bad reputation. Yes, they were working with limited knowledge. However, a soldier with a serious but non-fatal wound who got prompt medical care had about an 80% chance of survival. They didn't have access to antibiotics (Penicillin wasn't widely available until well after WWII, and that's the first one) and did the best they could. While still NightmareFuel, the aid those doctors and nurses gave was the best any army up to that time ever had.
26th Mar '17 1:23:58 PM StarSword
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* The music video for “Some Nights” by fun.

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* The music video for “Some Nights” by fun.Music/{{Fun}}




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* The Swedish PowerMetal band Music/CivilWar, a SpiritualSuccessor to Music/{{Sabaton}}, takes its name from the war, commonly performs in replica Confederate and Union uniforms (former lead vocalist Nils Patrik Johansson's was based on a Union Army musician's uniform, fittingly enough), and named their first three studio albums after the Michael and Jeff Shaara novel trilogy about the war with several songs on each referencing its events.
26th Mar '17 2:09:43 AM kouta
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*** Grant and Sherman used same strategy of go around the enemy instead of through them. Sherman, while advaning on Atlanta, could do this. Grant, during the Overland Campaign, did this too but The Army of the Potomac took far higer casualties because there wasn't enough ground to work with and the Union Army continually ran straight into the retreating Army of Northern Virginia.



** American doctors and nurses from that time period get an undeservedly bad reputation. Yes, they were working with limited knowledge. However, a soldier with a serious but non-fatal wound who got prompt medical care had about an 80% of survival. They didn't have access to antibiotics (Penicillin wasn't widely available until well after WWII, and that's the first one) and did the best they could.

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** American and Confederate doctors and nurses from that time period get an undeservedly bad reputation. Yes, they were working with limited knowledge. However, a soldier with a serious but non-fatal wound who got prompt medical care had about an 80% chance of survival. They didn't have access to antibiotics (Penicillin wasn't widely available until well after WWII, and that's the first one) and did the best they could. While still NightmareFuel, the aid those doctors and nurses gave was the best any army up to that time ever had.
26th Mar '17 1:22:14 AM kouta
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** American doctors and nurses from that time period get an undeservedly bad reputation. Yes, they were working with limited knowledge. However, a soldier with a serious but non-fatal wound who got prompt medical care had about an 80% of survival. They didn't have access to antibiotics (Penicillin wasn't widely available until well after WWII, and that's the first one) and did the best they could.
14th Mar '17 2:10:09 PM StarSword
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** ItSeemedLikeAGoodIdeaAtTheTime: Dig a T-shaped mine under the Confederate lines and pack it with explosives. And then, after you blow a hole in the enemy’s positions, rush in through the gap and force the capitulation of Petersburg. Unfortunately, [[ExecutiveMeddling Meade intervened at (almost literally) the last second]] and ordered Burnside not to use the division of black troops that he had specially trained for the attack.[[note]]Surprisingly, this was not due to racism but because Meade feared that if the attack failed, the Union would be accused of seeing blacks as mere cannon fodder who were more expendable than white troops.[[/note]] Rather then select the best replacement commander for the job, Burnside had his commanders draw straws to see who would get the assignment, and the "winner" happened to be an alcoholic named James H. Ledlie, who gave his division no special orders or training on what to do after the explosion was to take place. Fast forward to the explosion and Ledlie’s troops going INTO, not AROUND, the crater [[note]]Ledlie’s preoccupation with getting himself plastered [[MilesGloriosus in a fortified redoubt a safe distance away]] did not help.[[/note]] and getting slaughtered wholesale by cannons, muskets, and even improvised spears and large rocks.

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** ItSeemedLikeAGoodIdeaAtTheTime: Dig a T-shaped mine under the Confederate lines and pack it with explosives. And then, after you blow a hole in the enemy’s positions, rush in through the gap and force the capitulation of Petersburg. Unfortunately, [[ExecutiveMeddling Meade intervened at (almost literally) the last second]] and ordered Burnside not to use the division of black troops that he had specially trained for the attack.[[note]]Surprisingly, this was not due to racism but because Meade feared that if the attack failed, the Union would be accused of seeing blacks as mere cannon fodder who were more expendable than white troops. Burnside's argument was A) he ''absolutely'' didn't give a damn what color they were and said as much, and B) the black troops in question also happened to be greener and therefore more likely to charge with the zeal the plan required, rather than the more cautious advance of experienced white troops who had already seen massed gunfire chew such charges to pieces.[[/note]] Rather then select the best replacement commander for the job, Burnside had his commanders draw straws to see who would get the assignment, and the "winner" happened to be an alcoholic named James H. Ledlie, who gave his division no special orders or training on what to do after the explosion was to take place. Fast forward to the explosion and Ledlie’s troops going INTO, not AROUND, the crater [[note]]Ledlie’s preoccupation with getting himself plastered [[MilesGloriosus in a fortified redoubt a safe distance away]] did not help.[[/note]] and getting slaughtered wholesale by cannons, muskets, and even improvised spears and large rocks.
13th Mar '17 1:06:29 PM StarSword
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* AscendedMispelling: Union General Joseph Hooker owed his moniker "Fighting Joe Hooker" to a typo in a newspaper: a sentence including the words "heavy fighting," and "Joe Hooker" put a line break after the word 'heavy' and mistakenly left out the comma and capitalized the 'F'.

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* AscendedMispelling: AscendedMisspelling: Union General Joseph Hooker owed his moniker "Fighting Joe Hooker" to a typo in a newspaper: a sentence including the words "heavy fighting," and "Joe Hooker" put a line break after the word 'heavy' and mistakenly left out the comma and capitalized the 'F'.
13th Mar '17 1:05:57 PM StarSword
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* AscendedMispelling: Union General Joseph Hooker owed his moniker "Fighting Joe Hooker" to a typo in a newspaper: a sentence including the words "heavy fighting," and "Joe Hooker" put a line break after the word 'heavy' and mistakenly left out the comma and capitalized the 'F'.
11th Mar '17 6:30:09 PM karstovich2
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* Music/TheDecemberists’ song “Yankee Bayonet (I Will Be Home Then)” is a modern song set during the time of the Civil War, a duet between a Southern soldier (probably killed at one of the Battles of Manassas/Bull Run) and his pining, pregnant wife back in South Carolina. However, the lyrics seem to be inspired in part by the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljyCmWz07s8 letter]] of Rhode Islander and Union officer [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_Ballou Sullivan Ballou]] to his wife shortly before First Bull Run (the bit about the “breath of the wind” is particularly similar). The point, in other words, is that war is hard on families no matter what.

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* Music/TheDecemberists’ song “Yankee “[[WhenImGoneSong Yankee Bayonet (I Will Be Home Then)” Then)]]” is a modern song set during the time of the Civil War, a duet between a young dead Southern soldier (probably killed (killed, most likely, at one of the Battles of Manassas/Bull Run) and his pining, pregnant wife back in South Carolina. However, the lyrics seem to be inspired in part by the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljyCmWz07s8 letter]] of Rhode Islander and Union officer [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_Ballou Sullivan Ballou]] to his wife shortly before First Bull Run (the bit about the “breath of the wind” is particularly similar). The point, in other words, is that war is hard on families no matter what.
3rd Mar '17 8:44:43 PM karstovich2
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* SummonBiggerFish: ''Thwarted.'' The Confederacy (as noted) wanted to bring in foreign powers to recognize it and provide it with military aid. Lincoln promised to declare war upon anyone who actively helped the Confederacy, even just by gun-running. Winning a war with the USA would have been really, really expensive and there was very little in it for Britain — indeed, France ''might'' have taken the opportunity to attack them again. Not to mention the fact that it have been political suicide for a British government to fight alongside the Confederacy, as abolitionism was ''not'' a minority position in Britain. The Empire outlawed the slave trade in 1807[[note]]And when the Royal Navy enforces maritime trade laws, they ''stay'' enforced.[[/note]] and abolished slavery wholesale in 1833. It was much, ''much'' cheaper for British firms simply to invest in developing (pre-existing) Anglo-Indian and -Egyptian plantations.

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* SummonBiggerFish: ''Thwarted.'' The Confederacy (as noted) wanted to bring in foreign powers to recognize it and provide it with military aid. Lincoln promised to declare war upon anyone who actively helped the Confederacy, even just by gun-running. Winning a war with the USA would have been really, really expensive and there was very little in it for Britain — indeed, France ''might'' have taken the opportunity to attack them again. Not to mention the fact that it have been political suicide for a British government to fight alongside the Confederacy, as abolitionism was ''not'' a minority position in Britain. The Empire outlawed the slave trade in 1807[[note]]And when the Royal Navy enforces maritime trade laws, they ''stay'' enforced.[[/note]] and abolished slavery wholesale in 1833. And then there was the small fact that any British participation would rely heavily on using Canada as a base of operations...but the actual Canadians were overwhelmingly pro-Union, for reasons of abolitionism, economics (Canadian trade with the Union was big business), and (by this point) a degree of cultural affinity. It was distinctly possible that in the event of a British intervention, the ''Canadians'' would rebel against Britain. All told, it was much, ''much'' cheaper for British firms simply to invest in developing (pre-existing) Anglo-Indian and -Egyptian plantations.



** Many Confederate warships '''were''' constructed in Britain, however, and sold to the Confederate navy via loopholes in international trade law. The commerce raider CSS ''Alabama'' is the most notorious example. The U.S. government successfully sued the British government for related damages in 1872.

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** Many Confederate warships '''were''' constructed in Britain, however, and sold to the Confederate navy via loopholes in international trade law.law: the shipyards were private firms, who could do business with whomever they pleased, or at least that's what HM Government said. The commerce raider CSS ''Alabama'' is the most notorious example. The U.S. government successfully sued the British government for related damages in 1872.
3rd Mar '17 8:25:47 PM karstovich2
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** Most of Robert E. Lee's early victories could be chalked up to repeated use of Batman Gambits. Lee was able to make highly risky maneuvers and gain the upper hand from a position of weakness because he could predict what the various Union commanders’ behavior would be (Pope would hastily pursue any flanking attempt, [=McClellan=] would overestimate the enemies' numbers, etc.). Interestingly, Lee was just as good at reading Grant as he was reading any of the other Union generals; it's just that the thing Grant would reliably do--"advance, even if you lose, because you just have more men and supplies than they do"--was something Lee couldn't turn to his advantage.

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** Most of Robert E. Lee's early victories could be chalked up to repeated use of Batman Gambits. Lee was able to make highly risky maneuvers and gain the upper hand from a position of weakness because he could predict what the various Union commanders’ behavior would be (Pope would hastily pursue any flanking attempt, [=McClellan=] would overestimate the enemies' numbers, etc.). Interestingly, Lee was just as good at reading Grant as he was reading any of the other Union generals; it's just that the thing Grant would reliably do--"advance, even if you lose, because you just have more men and supplies than they do"--was something Lee couldn't turn to his advantage.advantage on the field. (Lee ''did'' try to turn it to his advantage on the strategic level: knowing that because the South did not have the capacity to directly attack the North's population or industrial base, and recognizing that Grant's strategy relied on the continued willingness of the Union to keep throwing men and materiel at the war effort, he did his damnedest to make sure that Grant's strategy was as costly as possible, pursued strategies targeted at making a big symbolic impression on the Northern public, and encouraged "Copperhead" propaganda. However, nothing Lee did on that front was enough.)
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