History UsefulNotes / SouthKoreansWithMarines

27th Nov '17 6:12:33 PM nombretomado
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South Korea is a key ally of the United States; it is said that losing South Korea (to North Korea or China) would be disastrous for America, and Japan is having doubts about America's ability to protect the region and is considering whether it should make its own KaijuDefenseForce as badass as shown in anime. Japan's concerns have been curbed somewhat by a new American foreign policy emphasizing focus on East Asia and the Pacific, although confidence is a bit shaky once again.

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South Korea is a key ally of the United States; it is said that losing South Korea (to North Korea or China) would be disastrous for America, and Japan is having doubts about America's ability to protect the region and is considering whether it should make its own KaijuDefenseForce UsefulNotes/KaijuDefenseForce as badass as shown in anime. Japan's concerns have been curbed somewhat by a new American foreign policy emphasizing focus on East Asia and the Pacific, although confidence is a bit shaky once again.



The Republic of Korea Navy is the naval branch of the ROK armed forces. Many ROK navy men revere Admiral Yi Sun Shin, who in the 16th century whacked a Japanese invasion fleet with his Turtle Boats, the world's first ironclads (according to some). The South Korean navy is currently building up its forces, having already introduced into service an amphibious assault ship/light carrier and several modern AEGIS-capable destroyers, to make it a blue-water navy in 2020 like that of its [[{{KaijuDefenseForce}} eastern neighbor and rival]].

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The Republic of Korea Navy is the naval branch of the ROK armed forces. Many ROK navy men revere Admiral Yi Sun Shin, who in the 16th century whacked a Japanese invasion fleet with his Turtle Boats, the world's first ironclads (according to some). The South Korean navy is currently building up its forces, having already introduced into service an amphibious assault ship/light carrier and several modern AEGIS-capable destroyers, to make it a blue-water navy in 2020 like that of its [[{{KaijuDefenseForce}} [[UsefulNotes/KaijuDefenseForce eastern neighbor and rival]].
9th Nov '17 9:43:29 PM KizunaTallis
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* In ''Fanfic/TheConversionBureauTheOtherSideOfTheSpectrum'', the South Korean armed forces are stated to be playing a big role in Earth's military response against the Solar Empire's AssimilationPlot. The fic has a side story centered in Asia detailing the war effort on their side of the Eurasia continent, and one of the main protagonists, Yon-Soo Park, is a former [[CelebritySurvivor entertainer]] who has to remember his training.






** They get more zombie-killing action in ''Animation/SeoulStation'' but are portrayed as the bad guys.

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** * They get more zombie-killing action in ''Animation/SeoulStation'' but are portrayed as the bad guys.
24th Oct '17 7:26:00 PM nombretomado
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The Republic of Korea Armed Forces was founded in 1948 in response to North Korean attacks leading to the UsefulNotes/KoreanWar. Most of the army at that time was more like a gendarmerie than a full army; when the North rolled its troops across the South, they curbstomped South Korea, until the United States decided to step in (and for a while afterward); the ROKAF later TookALevelInBadass, but a [[ChineseWithChopperSupport Chinese]] [[strike:mercenary]] [[BlatantLies voluntary]] army was sent by Mao Zedong, partly to help Kim Il-sung, partly because Mao feared China would be attacked by the U.S. via Manchuria and partly because Mao wanted to avoid having northern China flooded with North Korean refugees; a grinding war ensued until 1953, ending with Korea still being divided into two.

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The Republic of Korea Armed Forces was founded in 1948 in response to North Korean attacks leading to the UsefulNotes/KoreanWar. Most of the army at that time was more like a gendarmerie than a full army; when the North rolled its troops across the South, they curbstomped South Korea, until the United States decided to step in (and for a while afterward); the ROKAF later TookALevelInBadass, but a [[ChineseWithChopperSupport [[UsefulNotes/ChineseWithChopperSupport Chinese]] [[strike:mercenary]] [[BlatantLies voluntary]] army was sent by Mao Zedong, partly to help Kim Il-sung, partly because Mao feared China would be attacked by the U.S. via Manchuria and partly because Mao wanted to avoid having northern China flooded with North Korean refugees; a grinding war ensued until 1953, ending with Korea still being divided into two.
18th Sep '17 9:22:39 AM Gillan1220
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**They get more zombie-killing action in ''Animation/SeoulStation'' but are portrayed as the bad guys.


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* ''Franchise/Tekken'': Hwoarang was drafted into the ROK Army in Tekken 4. Soldiers and an officer appear in his ending demanding him to surrender. Instead, both Jin Kazama and Hwoarang knock out a few of them before evading their hail of automatic gunfire.
16th Sep '17 5:21:53 PM nombretomado
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The South Korean Armed Forces is modeled after the way the U.S. military worked between the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Act_of_1947 National Security Act of 1947]] and the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater%E2%80%93Nichols_Act Goldwater-Nichols Act]] of 1986; this means that while the chain of command runs from the President through the Minister of National Defense, advised by career military Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Joint Chiefs are also in the operational chain of command of their respective branches, rather than serving as advisors with command running directly from the civilian officials to combatant commands. This difference is rendered irrelevant by the nature of South Korea's defense needs: the U.S. has a combatant command for each theater of operations plus one each for special forces, nuclear weapons, and logistics. However, South Korea only has one theater of operations to speak of (''[[UsefulNotes/NorthKorea ahem]]''), has no nukes, and (being a geographically small country with precisely one military enemy worth talking about) its special forces and logistics needs don't require a top-level command, so the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is basically the commander for the country's lone combatant command. Also borrowed from the YanksWithTanks is the presence of a quasi-independent Marine Corps theoretically subordinate to the Navy but really an elite combined-arms fourth branch of the military. In addition to the US influence, however, because a large number of combat-experienced Koreans who served in the [[UsefulNotes/KatanasOfTheRisingSun Imperial Japanese armed forces]] during UsefulNotes/WorldWar2 played an instrumental role in setting up South Korean military in the beginning, there was a distinctive Japanese flavor in its early days. This was often remarked on by the Vietnamese during UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar, to whom South Koreans (who sent a sizable contingent to support US in that conflict) looked like a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to the Japanese whom they had to deal with a couple of decades before. Furthermore, since many of these Korean veterans of Japanese military had often fought against Leftist Korean guerrillas as Japanese soldiers, this often becomes a point of controversy in South Korean politics.

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The South Korean Armed Forces is modeled after the way the U.S. military worked between the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Act_of_1947 National Security Act of 1947]] and the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldwater%E2%80%93Nichols_Act Goldwater-Nichols Act]] of 1986; this means that while the chain of command runs from the President through the Minister of National Defense, advised by career military Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Joint Chiefs are also in the operational chain of command of their respective branches, rather than serving as advisors with command running directly from the civilian officials to combatant commands. This difference is rendered irrelevant by the nature of South Korea's defense needs: the U.S. has a combatant command for each theater of operations plus one each for special forces, nuclear weapons, and logistics. However, South Korea only has one theater of operations to speak of (''[[UsefulNotes/NorthKorea ahem]]''), has no nukes, and (being a geographically small country with precisely one military enemy worth talking about) its special forces and logistics needs don't require a top-level command, so the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is basically the commander for the country's lone combatant command. Also borrowed from the YanksWithTanks UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks is the presence of a quasi-independent Marine Corps theoretically subordinate to the Navy but really an elite combined-arms fourth branch of the military. In addition to the US influence, however, because a large number of combat-experienced Koreans who served in the [[UsefulNotes/KatanasOfTheRisingSun Imperial Japanese armed forces]] during UsefulNotes/WorldWar2 played an instrumental role in setting up South Korean military in the beginning, there was a distinctive Japanese flavor in its early days. This was often remarked on by the Vietnamese during UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar, to whom South Koreans (who sent a sizable contingent to support US in that conflict) looked like a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute to the Japanese whom they had to deal with a couple of decades before. Furthermore, since many of these Korean veterans of Japanese military had often fought against Leftist Korean guerrillas as Japanese soldiers, this often becomes a point of controversy in South Korean politics.



{{Eagle Squadron}}, except that they serve with [[YankswithTanks U.S. Forces]] in South Korea. Young Korean men have to pass English proficiency tests then are selected by lottery for training. After training, they serve with U.S. units in Korea. Many families would like to see their sons enter the KATUSA program because of the ROK Army and Marines {{training from hell}}/{{Spartan Way}}. KATUSA soldiers do enjoy their time with U.S. units. However if they fail a PT test or violate U.S. and ROK military regulations they get [[OhCrap sent back]] to a ROK Army unit.

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{{Eagle Squadron}}, except that they serve with [[YankswithTanks [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks U.S. Forces]] in South Korea. Young Korean men have to pass English proficiency tests then are selected by lottery for training. After training, they serve with U.S. units in Korea. Many families would like to see their sons enter the KATUSA program because of the ROK Army and Marines {{training from hell}}/{{Spartan Way}}. KATUSA soldiers do enjoy their time with U.S. units. However if they fail a PT test or violate U.S. and ROK military regulations they get [[OhCrap sent back]] to a ROK Army unit.



After the Armistice in 1953 which paused the [[UsefulNotes/KoreanWar Korean War]], the [[TheAlliance United Nations Command (UNC)]], the multinational agency created by the UN and placed under American command eventually wound down its mission as the contributing nations withdrew their forces. The United States and South Korea signed a military alliance later and a status of forces agreement to keep [[YankswithTanks American troops]] in the country under the auspices of US Forces-Korea (USFK).

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After the Armistice in 1953 which paused the [[UsefulNotes/KoreanWar Korean War]], the [[TheAlliance United Nations Command (UNC)]], the multinational agency created by the UN and placed under American command eventually wound down its mission as the contributing nations withdrew their forces. The United States and South Korea signed a military alliance later and a status of forces agreement to keep [[YankswithTanks [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks American troops]] in the country under the auspices of US Forces-Korea (USFK).
9th Jul '17 3:52:48 PM WaterBlap
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South Korea is a key ally of the United States; it is said that losing South Korea (to North Korea or China) would be disastrous for America, and Japan is having doubts about America's ability to protect the region and is considering whether it should make its own KaijuDefenseForce as badass as shown in anime. Japan's concerns have been curbed somewhat by a new American foreign policy emphasizing focus on East Asia and the Pacific, although confidence is a bit shaky once again, now that [[DonaldTrump the new guy in Washington]] has mentioned [[DealWithTheDevil making some kind of deal]] with Pyongyang.

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South Korea is a key ally of the United States; it is said that losing South Korea (to North Korea or China) would be disastrous for America, and Japan is having doubts about America's ability to protect the region and is considering whether it should make its own KaijuDefenseForce as badass as shown in anime. Japan's concerns have been curbed somewhat by a new American foreign policy emphasizing focus on East Asia and the Pacific, although confidence is a bit shaky once again, now that [[DonaldTrump the new guy in Washington]] has mentioned [[DealWithTheDevil making some kind of deal]] with Pyongyang.
again.
3rd Jul '17 4:59:15 AM bombadil211
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To show just how seriously military service is, Music/{{Psy}} was actually forced to reenlist when the government determined that he hadn't satisfactorily completed his obligation to the country[[note]]He'd originally been given special permission to work at a software company rather than complete active military service as part of a government policy trying to encourage people go into STEM fields but actually spent his time continuing his music career. He was then required to complete two years with an active duty army unit to make up for his indiscretion[[/note]], and the misbehavior of many singers (including drinking binges, frequenting massage parlors, or just [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking visiting girlfriends]] while on active duty) led to the army entertainment unit being permanently disbanded. In fact when singer Yoo Seung-jun, at the height of his fame, renounced his Korean citizenship and became a naturalized US citizen to avoid the draft, the Korean government responded by ''banning him from ever entering the country again''. He's been quite literally begging to be let back into the country ever since (even releasing a video where he gets on his knees and tearfully grovels), but the courts refuse to change the decision and a public opinion poll showed that Koreans support the government in this matter.

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To show just how seriously military service is, Music/{{Psy}} was actually forced to reenlist when the government determined that he hadn't satisfactorily completed his obligation to the country[[note]]He'd originally been given special permission to work at a software company rather than complete active military service as part of a government policy trying to encourage people go into STEM fields but actually spent his time continuing his music career. He was then required to complete two years with an active duty army unit to make up for his indiscretion[[/note]], and the misbehavior of many singers (including drinking binges, frequenting massage parlors, or just [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking visiting girlfriends]] while on active duty) led to the army entertainment unit being permanently disbanded.disbanded and its members being reassigned to front line combat units. In fact when singer Yoo Seung-jun, at the height of his fame, renounced his Korean citizenship and became a naturalized US citizen to avoid the draft, the Korean government responded by ''banning him from ever entering the country again''. He's been quite literally begging to be let back into the country ever since (even releasing a video where he gets on his knees and tearfully grovels), but the courts refuse to change the decision and a public opinion poll showed that Koreans support the government in this matter.
3rd Jul '17 4:58:40 AM bombadil211
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To show just how seriously military service is, Music/{{Psy}} was actually forced to reenlist when the government determined that he hadn't satisfactorily completed his obligation to the country[[note]]He'd originally been given special permission to work at a software company rather than complete active military service as part of a government policy trying to encourage people go into STEM fields but actually spent his time continuing his music career. He was then required to complete two years with an active duty army unit to make up for his indiscretion[[/note]], and the misbehavior of many singers (including drinking binges, frequenting massage parlors, or just [[ArsonMuderAndJaywalking visiting girlfriends]] while on active duty) led to the army entertainment unit being permanently disbanded. In fact when singer Yoo Seung-jun, at the height of his fame, renounced his Korean citizenship and became a naturalized US citizen to avoid the draft, the Korean government responded by ''banning him from ever entering the country again''. He's been quite literally begging to be let back into the country ever since (even releasing a video where he gets on his knees and tearfully grovels), but the courts refuse to change the decision and a public opinion poll showed that Koreans support the government in this matter.

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To show just how seriously military service is, Music/{{Psy}} was actually forced to reenlist when the government determined that he hadn't satisfactorily completed his obligation to the country[[note]]He'd originally been given special permission to work at a software company rather than complete active military service as part of a government policy trying to encourage people go into STEM fields but actually spent his time continuing his music career. He was then required to complete two years with an active duty army unit to make up for his indiscretion[[/note]], and the misbehavior of many singers (including drinking binges, frequenting massage parlors, or just [[ArsonMuderAndJaywalking [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking visiting girlfriends]] while on active duty) led to the army entertainment unit being permanently disbanded. In fact when singer Yoo Seung-jun, at the height of his fame, renounced his Korean citizenship and became a naturalized US citizen to avoid the draft, the Korean government responded by ''banning him from ever entering the country again''. He's been quite literally begging to be let back into the country ever since (even releasing a video where he gets on his knees and tearfully grovels), but the courts refuse to change the decision and a public opinion poll showed that Koreans support the government in this matter.
3rd Jul '17 4:58:12 AM bombadil211
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Conscription is mandatory for males 18 and above for at least two years. It is regarded as a SeriousBusiness for South Koreans and being convicted of draft dodging comes with a mandatory ten year prison sentence, even for conscientious objectors. Actors and entertainers all have to put their careers on hold to fulfill their obligations and any misbehavior during their time in service can result in their fanbases turning on them and permanently damaging their careers. Failure to fulfill one's obligation, barring severe medical issues, is considered an embarassment in Korean society and can result in humiliation and ostracization. In fact when Yoo Seung-jun, a one-time popular entertainer, renounced his Korean citizenship and became a naturalized US citizen to avoid the draft, the Korean government responded by ''banning him from ever entering the country again'' and a public opinion poll showed that Koreans overwhelmingly supported the decision.

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Conscription is mandatory for males 18 and above for at least two years. It is regarded as a SeriousBusiness for South Koreans and being convicted of draft dodging comes with a mandatory ten year prison sentence, even for conscientious objectors. Actors and entertainers all have to put their careers on hold to fulfill their obligations and any misbehavior during their time in service can result in their fanbases turning on them and permanently damaging their careers. Failure to fulfill one's obligation, barring severe medical issues, is considered an embarassment embarrassment in Korean society and can result in humiliation and ostracization. ostracism.

To show just how seriously military service is, Music/{{Psy}} was actually forced to reenlist when the government determined that he hadn't satisfactorily completed his obligation to the country[[note]]He'd originally been given special permission to work at a software company rather than complete active military service as part of a government policy trying to encourage people go into STEM fields but actually spent his time continuing his music career. He was then required to complete two years with an active duty army unit to make up for his indiscretion[[/note]], and the misbehavior of many singers (including drinking binges, frequenting massage parlors, or just [[ArsonMuderAndJaywalking visiting girlfriends]] while on active duty) led to the army entertainment unit being permanently disbanded.
In fact when singer Yoo Seung-jun, a one-time popular entertainer, at the height of his fame, renounced his Korean citizenship and became a naturalized US citizen to avoid the draft, the Korean government responded by ''banning him from ever entering the country again'' again''. He's been quite literally begging to be let back into the country ever since (even releasing a video where he gets on his knees and tearfully grovels), but the courts refuse to change the decision and a public opinion poll showed that Koreans overwhelmingly supported support the decision.
government in this matter.
30th Jun '17 5:46:26 AM Gillan1220
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* Both alive and [[TechnicallyLivingZombie infected]] personnel of the ROK Army appear in ''Film/TrainToBusan''. [[spoiler: They are even stated to have secured Busan as a safe zone, a historical CallBack to the [[UsefulNotes/KoreanWar Korean War. Sadly, we do not see them kicking zombie ass though.]]]]
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