History UsefulNotes / SouthKoreansWithMarines

23rd Nov '15 11:30:25 PM jormis29
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* South Korean soldiers appear in the Seoul mission in ''VideoGame/SplinterCell: Chaos Theory''. Notably, they are just as hostile to Sam as North Korean soldiers are, if only because a guy in a full black suit with guns and tools strapped all over sneaking around an active warzone would look pretty suspicious to anyone.

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* South Korean soldiers appear in the Seoul mission in ''VideoGame/SplinterCell: Chaos Theory''.''VideoGame/SplinterCellChaosTheory''. Notably, they are just as hostile to Sam as North Korean soldiers are, if only because a guy in a full black suit with guns and tools strapped all over sneaking around an active warzone would look pretty suspicious to anyone.
19th Aug '15 12:59:28 AM SL
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In the event of war on the Korean Peninsula (most likely the Korean War unpausing), the defense of South Korea would be coordinated from CFC, meaning that all South Korean forces will be commanded by an American officer. UNC still exists as an entity devoid of muscle but it could be [[GondorCallsForAid reactivated]] in the event other countries wish to commit their forces to help in the defense of South Korea.

The CFC arrangement has caused resentment in South Koreans because foreign officer would be commanding their military. This put the United States in a unpopular position when it was perceived to be supporting South Korea's [[TheSpyMaster intelligence chief]] and strongman, Lt General Chun Doo-hwan, during the 1980 crackdown at [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwangju_massacre Gwangju]].

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In the event of war on the Korean Peninsula (most likely the Korean War unpausing), the defense of South Korea would be coordinated from CFC, meaning that all South Korean forces will be commanded by an American officer. UNC still exists to this day but as an entity devoid of muscle but it could be [[GondorCallsForAid reactivated]] in the event other countries wish to commit their forces to help in the defense of South Korea.Korea. Components of UNC remain functional such as UNC Rear based at Yokota airbase, Japan. It is through the UNC where member countries send troops to train with South Korean forces.

The CFC arrangement has caused resentment in South Koreans because foreign the officer who would be commanding lead their military.armies to war answers to the Pentagon, not Seoul. This put the United States in a unpopular position when it was perceived to be supporting South Korea's [[TheSpyMaster intelligence chief]] and strongman, Lt General Chun Doo-hwan, during the 1980 crackdown at [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwangju_massacre Gwangju]].



There has been recent debate within South Korea about whether total OPCON in time of war should be transferred back to the ROK entirely. The government of Park Geun-hye postponed a decision on the matter which was due at the end of 2014. The debate is contentious, but it is substantially less acrimonious than it has been in past years, in large part because of the increasingly positive opinion the Korean public has for the US (as recently as the early 2000s, (South) Korean public opinion consistently hovered in the 60-70% ''anti''-US range, while at present that's almost reversed and South Koreans are among the most pro-American people in East Asia, although not ''quite'' so much as the Filipinos and--oddly--the Vietnamese).

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There has been recent debate within South Korea about Korea, whether it should retain total OPCON in time the event of war should be transferred back to on the ROK entirely.Korean Peninsular, thus ending the need for CFC. The government of Park Geun-hye postponed a decision on the matter which was due at the end of 2014. The debate is contentious, but it is substantially less acrimonious than it has been in past years, in large part because of the increasingly positive opinion the Korean public has for the US (as recently as the early 2000s, (South) Korean public opinion consistently hovered in the 60-70% ''anti''-US range, while at present that's almost reversed and South Koreans are among the most pro-American people in East Asia, although not ''quite'' so much as the Filipinos and--oddly--the Vietnamese).
19th Jul '15 9:59:16 PM karstovich2
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There has been recent debate within South Korea about whether total OPCON in time of war should be transferred back to the ROK entirely. The government of Park Geun-hye postponed a decision on the matter which was due at the end of 2014. The debate is contentious, but it is substantially less acrimonious than it has been in past years, in large part because of the increasingly positive opinion the Korean public has for the US (as recently as the early 2000s, (South) Korean public opinion consistently hovered in the 60-70% ''anti''-US range, while at present that's reversed).

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There has been recent debate within South Korea about whether total OPCON in time of war should be transferred back to the ROK entirely. The government of Park Geun-hye postponed a decision on the matter which was due at the end of 2014. The debate is contentious, but it is substantially less acrimonious than it has been in past years, in large part because of the increasingly positive opinion the Korean public has for the US (as recently as the early 2000s, (South) Korean public opinion consistently hovered in the 60-70% ''anti''-US range, while at present that's reversed).
almost reversed and South Koreans are among the most pro-American people in East Asia, although not ''quite'' so much as the Filipinos and--oddly--the Vietnamese).
19th Jul '15 9:58:17 PM karstovich2
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In the event of war on the Korean Peninsular (most likely the Korean War unpausing), the defence of South Korea would be coordinated from CFC, meaning that all South Korean forces will be commanded by an American officer. UNC still exists as an entity devoid of muscle but it could be [[GondorCallsForAid reactivated]] in the event other countries wish to commit their forces to help in the defence of South Korea.

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In the event of war on the Korean Peninsular Peninsula (most likely the Korean War unpausing), the defence defense of South Korea would be coordinated from CFC, meaning that all South Korean forces will be commanded by an American officer. UNC still exists as an entity devoid of muscle but it could be [[GondorCallsForAid reactivated]] in the event other countries wish to commit their forces to help in the defence defense of South Korea.



There has been recent debate within South Korea about whether total OPCON in time of war should be transferred back to the ROK entirely. The government of Park Geun-hye postponed a decision on the matter which was due at the end of 2014.

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There has been recent debate within South Korea about whether total OPCON in time of war should be transferred back to the ROK entirely. The government of Park Geun-hye postponed a decision on the matter which was due at the end of 2014.
2014. The debate is contentious, but it is substantially less acrimonious than it has been in past years, in large part because of the increasingly positive opinion the Korean public has for the US (as recently as the early 2000s, (South) Korean public opinion consistently hovered in the 60-70% ''anti''-US range, while at present that's reversed).
19th Jul '15 9:55:35 PM karstovich2
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Combined Forces Command (CFC) was created by the ROK and the United States later in 1978, totally separate from the United Nations Command, by which time the United States was the only foreign country with a significant military presence on the Korean peninsular. CFC is headed by an American four star officer (and dual hatting with USFK, rather like how NATO's Supreme Commander is also commanding officer of US European Command) with an ROK officer as deputy.

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Combined Forces Command (CFC) was created by the ROK and the United States later in 1978, totally separate from the United Nations Command, by which time the United States was the only foreign country with a significant military presence on the Korean peninsular.peninsula. CFC is headed by an American four star officer (and dual hatting with USFK, rather like how NATO's Supreme Commander is also commanding officer of US European Command) with an ROK officer as deputy.
9th Jul '15 3:59:10 AM 1nightonly
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South Korea is a key ally of the United States; it is said that losing South Korea (to North Korea or China) would be disastrous for America, and Japan is having doubts about America's ability to protect the region and is considering wheter it should make its own KaijuDefenseForce as badass as shown in anime. Japan's concerns have been curbed somewhat by a new American foreign policy emphasizing focus on East Asia and the Pacific.

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South Korea is a key ally of the United States; it is said that losing South Korea (to North Korea or China) would be disastrous for America, and Japan is having doubts about America's ability to protect the region and is considering wheter whether it should make its own KaijuDefenseForce as badass as shown in anime. Japan's concerns have been curbed somewhat by a new American foreign policy emphasizing focus on East Asia and the Pacific.
17th Feb '15 6:35:27 PM jormis29
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* ROK forces are a thorn in your side in the Soviet Campaign of ''CommandAndConquer Red Alert 2'', conducting a raid on the Russian Far East and screwing up your invasion of Hawaii. They also get quite possibly the most awesome special unit on the Allied side in multiplayer/skirmish mode: the Black Eagle, a better version of the usual Allied Harrier fighter plane.

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* ROK forces are a thorn in your side in the Soviet Campaign of ''CommandAndConquer Red Alert 2'', ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert2'', conducting a raid on the Russian Far East and screwing up your invasion of Hawaii. They also get quite possibly the most awesome special unit on the Allied side in multiplayer/skirmish mode: the Black Eagle, a better version of the usual Allied Harrier fighter plane.
10th Feb '15 7:26:44 AM SL
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The CFC arrangement has caused resentment in South Koreans. This put the United States in a unpopular position when it was perceived to be supporting South Korea's [[TheSpyMaster intelligence chief]] and strongman, Chun Doo-hwan, during the 1980 crackdown at [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwangju_massacre Gwangju]].

In 1994 South Korea's government assumed all responsibility for its own military's affairs in peacetime. In the event of war however, operational control (OPCON) however falls to CFC. All ROK military deployments in [[WaronTerror Afghanistan]] and [[IraqWar Iraq]] were undertaken on the initiative of its government and OPCON of their forces fell to ISAF (NATO) or Multinational Force-Iraq (USCENTCOM) respectively, not CFC.

There has been recent debate within South Korea about whether total OPCON in time of war should be transferred back to it the ROK entirely. The government of Park Geun-hye postponed a decision on the matter which was due at the end of 2014.

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The CFC arrangement has caused resentment in South Koreans. Koreans because foreign officer would be commanding their military. This put the United States in a unpopular position when it was perceived to be supporting South Korea's [[TheSpyMaster intelligence chief]] and strongman, Lt General Chun Doo-hwan, during the 1980 crackdown at [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwangju_massacre Gwangju]].

In 1994 South Korea's government assumed all responsibility for its own military's affairs in during peacetime. In the event of war however, operational control (OPCON) however falls to CFC. All ROK military deployments in [[WaronTerror Afghanistan]] and [[IraqWar Iraq]] were undertaken on the initiative of its government and OPCON of their forces fell to ISAF (NATO) or Multinational Force-Iraq (USCENTCOM) respectively, not CFC.

There has been recent debate within South Korea about whether total OPCON in time of war should be transferred back to it the ROK entirely. The government of Park Geun-hye postponed a decision on the matter which was due at the end of 2014.
14th Jan '15 8:32:32 PM SL
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\n!!OPCON

After the Armistice in 1953 which paused the [[UsefulNotes/KoreanWar Korean War]], the [[TheAlliance United Nations Command (UNC)]], the multinational agency created by the UN and placed under American command eventually wound down its mission as the contributing nations withdrew their forces. The United States and South Korea signed a military alliance later and a status of forces agreement to keep [[YankswithTanks American troops]] in the country under the auspices of US Forces-Korea (USFK).

Combined Forces Command (CFC) was created by the ROK and the United States later in 1978, totally separate from the United Nations Command, by which time the United States was the only foreign country with a significant military presence on the Korean peninsular. CFC is headed by an American four star officer (and dual hatting with USFK, rather like how NATO's Supreme Commander is also commanding officer of US European Command) with an ROK officer as deputy.

In the event of war on the Korean Peninsular (most likely the Korean War unpausing), the defence of South Korea would be coordinated from CFC, meaning that all South Korean forces will be commanded by an American officer. UNC still exists as an entity devoid of muscle but it could be [[GondorCallsForAid reactivated]] in the event other countries wish to commit their forces to help in the defence of South Korea.

The CFC arrangement has caused resentment in South Koreans. This put the United States in a unpopular position when it was perceived to be supporting South Korea's [[TheSpyMaster intelligence chief]] and strongman, Chun Doo-hwan, during the 1980 crackdown at [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwangju_massacre Gwangju]].

In 1994 South Korea's government assumed all responsibility for its own military's affairs in peacetime. In the event of war however, operational control (OPCON) however falls to CFC. All ROK military deployments in [[WaronTerror Afghanistan]] and [[IraqWar Iraq]] were undertaken on the initiative of its government and OPCON of their forces fell to ISAF (NATO) or Multinational Force-Iraq (USCENTCOM) respectively, not CFC.

There has been recent debate within South Korea about whether total OPCON in time of war should be transferred back to it the ROK entirely. The government of Park Geun-hye postponed a decision on the matter which was due at the end of 2014.
18th Nov '14 5:12:02 PM Str8taim
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* The South Korean Army appears in ''{{Mercenaries}}'' as one of the factions invading North Korea. They are depicted as being supported by the American CIA, and are equipped at the same level as the Allied Nations expedition.

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* The South Korean Army appears in ''{{Mercenaries}}'' as one of the factions invading North Korea. They are depicted as being supported by the American CIA, and are equipped at the same level as the Allied Nations expedition.
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