History UsefulNotes / RMSTitanic

29th Apr '16 7:11:16 AM Aquila89
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* ''Titanic'': "TheyJustDidntCare" would be a good way to describe this 1953 Clifton Webb and Barbara Stanwyck movie, which concerns itself more with a fictional custody battle between two catty first class passengers than the actual ship and the subsequent disaster.

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* ''Titanic'': "TheyJustDidntCare" would be a good way to describe this 1953 Clifton Webb and Barbara Stanwyck Creator/BarbaraStanwyck movie, which concerns itself more with a fictional custody battle between two catty first class passengers than the actual ship and the subsequent disaster.
26th Apr '16 2:10:39 PM DrOO7
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* The heroine of the Creator/DanielleSteel novel ''No Greater Love'' takes charge of her younger siblings after surviving the disaster but losing her parents and fiance.
25th Apr '16 9:02:03 PM jameygamer
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* MeaningfulName: The first two ships of the Olympic Class were named after generations of gods from Myth/ClassicalMythology

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* MeaningfulName: The first two ships of the Olympic ''Olympic'' Class were named after generations of gods from Myth/ClassicalMythology
25th Apr '16 8:09:31 PM TPPR10
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[[caption-width-right:350:''God Himself cannot sink this ship."'']]

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[[caption-width-right:350:''God [[caption-width-right:350:''"God Himself cannot sink this ship."'']]
25th Apr '16 8:08:00 PM jameygamer
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** And there is the famed story of Benjamin Guggenheim and his valet, the former of whom famously told a steward: "We are dressed in our best, and are prepared to go down as gentlemen."

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** And there is the famed story of Benjamin Guggenheim and his valet, the former of whom famously told a steward: "We are dressed in our best, and are prepared to go down as gentlemen."[[note]] (but we would like a brandy! (this is from Creator/JamesCameron's film; it's unknown if he actually said it) [[/note]]"
25th Apr '16 8:05:04 PM jameygamer
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** Stanley Lord, the captain of the ''Californian'', was fired with prejudice from his line that August after he did not respond to the ''Titanic's'' sinking. Neither he nor any of his crew were ever criminally charged for ignoring the rockets and wireless telegraphs, but the mess still turned him into a hated man. He joined a different company and worked there until 1927, but his career and reputation were forever stained.
25th Apr '16 7:58:50 PM jameygamer
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* Averted with the actual builders of the ship, Harland and Wolff, who continued to build ocean liners for decades until the jet airplane made it considerably easier to get around the globe. H&W are still in operation in the 21st century.

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* ** Averted with the actual builders of the ship, Harland and Wolff, who continued to build ocean liners for decades until the jet airplane made it considerably easier to get around the globe. H&W are still in operation in the 21st century.
25th Apr '16 7:57:38 PM jameygamer
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* Averted with the actual builders of the ship, Harland and Wolff, who continued to build ocean liners for decades until the jet airplane made it considerably easier to get around the globe. H&W are still in operation in the 21st century.
25th Apr '16 7:54:17 PM jameygamer
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** Of course, watertight decks have their own problems in an emergency situation, such as what is known as the "Free-Surface Effect," where the water sloshes around and pools on one side or the other. If the water gathers in the lower decks this isn't an issue, as the center of gravity is better at staying where it needs to be. But if the water is higher up, the center of gravity shifts, and the ship capsizes. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdCXDkF0LfA This actually happened to the Normandie when a fire broke out, and the firefighters weren't able to hose off the ship evenly.]] And as the ''Olympic''-Class wasn't being built for wartime use conversion like Cunard's ''Lusitania'' and ''Mauritania'', they didn't need to adhere to the Admiralty's standards for warships, which include watertight decks as well as longitudinal (lengthwise) bulkheads (in fact, those bulkheads did nothing but make Lusitania's sinking ''worse'' by collecting water on one side, rather than letting it evenly flood the interior). Then there's the fact that watertight decks require hatches so that passengers and crew would be able to move about the ship, hatches that could easily be forgotten about during an emergency, such as when the HMS Audacious struck a mine in 1914 (leading to the loss of the ship). So it's not like White Star and H&W were being arrogant about safety.

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** Of course, watertight decks have their own problems in an emergency situation, such as what is known as the "Free-Surface Effect," where the water sloshes around and pools on one side or the other. If the water gathers in the lower decks this isn't an issue, as the center of gravity is better at staying where it needs to be. But if the water is higher up, the center of gravity shifts, and the ship capsizes. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdCXDkF0LfA This actually happened to the Normandie when a fire broke out, and the firefighters weren't able to hose off the ship evenly.]] And as the ''Olympic''-Class wasn't being built for wartime use conversion like Cunard's ''Lusitania'' and ''Mauritania'', they didn't need to adhere to the Admiralty's standards for warships, which include watertight decks as well as longitudinal (lengthwise) bulkheads (in fact, those bulkheads did nothing but make Lusitania's sinking ''worse'' by collecting water on one side, rather than letting it evenly flood the interior). Then there's the fact that watertight decks require hatches so that passengers and crew would be able to move about the ship, hatches that could easily be forgotten about during an emergency, such as when the HMS Audacious ''Audacious'' struck a mine in 1914 (leading to the loss of the that ship). So it's not like White Star and H&W were being arrogant about safety.
25th Apr '16 7:52:36 PM jameygamer
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** As a matter of fact, the only really noteworthy crew member who both survived and did not get shamed for surviving was the ship's chief baker, Charles Joughlin; he is technically considered to be the final passenger of the Titanic to disembark the ship (by way of riding the stern down in the final plunge; the ship fully submerged into the water under his feet, thereby forcing him off the Titanic). He spent a good chunk of time in the freezing water until he found Collapsible B and hung onto the overturned boat until he and the other 5 people on it were rescued. He was heavily drunk for the final stages of the sinking, yet the alcohol actually gave him the ability to survive the freezing cold (it should have done the opposite), and he spent the rest of the night on the sea before being rescued by a lifeboat and taken to the Carpathia in the morning. This rather odd story about how he both stayed aboard and survived the whole ordeal more or less gave him immunity from the shame, and he lived to 1956.
** The sinking of the Titanic also was a critical hit to the viability of White Star Line as a whole. They were the subject of an inquiry on both sides of the Atlantic and were heavily shamed by the sinking, cementing them into the second best spot behind ArchEnemy Cunard Lines (who owned the Carpathia). This wasn't helped when one of the other two ''Olympic''-class ships they built and the third and last one, the Brittanic, never entered service before World War I broke out, which got it converted into a medical ship. IT sunk during the war when it hit a sea mine. The stock market crash of 1929, which started the Great Depression, finished off White Star Line and allowed Cunard to absorb the company. What exists of White Star now is part of the Carnival Cruise Corporation, who are the current owners of Cunard (along with Costa Cruises, who would be involved in another historic maritime disaster with the Concordia in 2012.)

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** As a matter of fact, the only really noteworthy crew member who both survived and did not get shamed for surviving was the ship's chief baker, Charles Joughlin; he is technically considered to be the final passenger of the Titanic ''Titanic'' to disembark the ship (by way of riding the stern down in the final plunge; the ship fully submerged into the water under his feet, thereby forcing him off the Titanic).''Titanic''). He spent a good chunk of time in the freezing water until he found Collapsible B and hung onto the overturned boat until he and the other 5 people on it were rescued. He was heavily drunk for the final stages of the sinking, yet the alcohol actually gave him the ability to survive the freezing cold (it should have done the opposite), and he spent the rest of the night on the sea before being rescued by a lifeboat and taken to the Carpathia ''Carpathia'' in the morning. This rather odd story about how he both stayed aboard and survived the whole ordeal more or less gave him immunity from the shame, and he lived to 1956.
** The sinking of the Titanic ''Titanic'' also was a critical hit to the viability of White Star Line as a whole. They were the subject of an inquiry on both sides of the Atlantic and were heavily shamed by the sinking, sinking (which was also a crippling financial hit to them thanks to all the investment they put in the ship's creation), cementing them into the second best spot behind ArchEnemy Cunard Lines (who owned the Carpathia). ''Carpathia''). This wasn't helped when one of the other two ''Olympic''-class ships they built and the third and last one, the Brittanic, ''Brittanic'', never entered service before World War I broke out, which got it converted into a medical ship. IT sunk during the war when it hit a sea mine. The stock market crash of 1929, which started the Great Depression, finished off White Star Line and allowed Cunard to absorb the company. What exists of White Star now is part of the Carnival Cruise Corporation, who are the current owners of Cunard (along with Costa Cruises, who would be involved in another historic maritime disaster with the Concordia ''Concordia'' in 2012.)
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