History UsefulNotes / NorthKorea

18th Jun '16 9:06:12 AM ZangotheChua
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North Korea's national identity is largely shaped by the Korean War. The near-complete domination of the South in the early part of the conflict are lionized as communist internationalism at it's finest and the prevailing narrative to this day is that the United States (and to the lesser extent, the UN the US forces were leading) used the early advances as an excuse to fiendishly get involved and take over. The later pushes past the 38th parallel, when US general MacArthur attempted to push the communists entirely out of the peninsula, served as vindication of this. It is against the law in North Korea to use the [[InsistentTerminology term 'north' to describe it]] as by official stance it is the only Korea and the south is land held by capitalist traitors and US forces. North Korean media portrays southerners as malnourished and suffering in a sort of capitalist wasteland ruled by the Americans rather than one of the most prosperous countries in Asia. To this end North Korea also places an extensive importance preserving traditional Korean culture as the last holdout against the Western imperialists. For example, wives of leading Party members often go outside to do things like shopping in elaborate cheongsam.
17th Jun '16 10:23:55 AM Terran117
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The [[NonIndicativeName Democratic]] [[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny People's]] [[HereditaryRepublic Republic of Korea]], far better known as North Korea, is a [[BlatantLies workers' paradise]] in East Asia which controls much of the northern Korean peninsula. It was founded in 1948, something the late Creator/ChristopherHitchens noted: "You almost get the feeling that Kim Il-sung was handed a copy of ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' in Korean that year and asked, 'Do you think we could make this work?' And he thought, 'Well I don't know, but we can sure give it the old college try.'" Indeed, North Korea is probably the closest any society has ever come to realizing a real life Oceania. A highly isolationist and rigidly controlled society, it has reasonable relations with its two powerful northern neighbors, the [[UsefulNotes/{{China}} People's Republic of China]][[note]] Relations have soured considerably after the whole nuclear weapons rigmarole, now North Korea is more likely to serve as an embarrassment to China than anything else. The interest China has in North Korea these days is keeping the government from collapsing so their border won't be swamped by a flood of North Korean refugees.[[/note]] and UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}; while maintaining unbelievably terrible relations with its southern neighbor, [[UsefulNotes/SouthKorea the Republic of Korea]][[note]] although the ceasefire from the Korean War was established in 1953 and continues to this day, North and South have always technically been at war, and every so often the North sends the South a poke, or some artillery shells[[/note]], as well as with the UsefulNotes/UnitedStates, UsefulNotes/{{Japan}}, and UsefulNotes/{{Israel}}[[note]] North Korea does not officially recognize the state of Israel, and as per Cold War politics, they officially back the Arab states like the Soviet Union did, and support the terrorist group Hamas. Some of North Korean propaganda is filled with antisemitic rhetoric as well[[/note]]; keeping good relations with UsefulNotes/{{Iran}}, UsefulNotes/{{Syria}}, UsefulNotes/{{Cuba}}, UsefulNotes/{{Venezuela}}, and UsefulNotes/{{Pakistan}}[[note]] All five of these states have been hostile to the United States, Japan, Israel, and/or South Korea in one way or another. Pakistan's ''government'' had a long history of good relations with the USA until [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror the Bin Laden raid]] blew that up and caused the US to pivot to more overt support of India (a reversal of the situation during the Cold War, where India did not enjoy much American support due to its vaguely socialist policies and elected Marxist government in Bengal); Pakistan's ''people'', however, despise Americans more than anyone else on Earth. Cuba and Venezuela are Socialist states known to spat with the USA, though Cuba has since restored ties with the US[[/note]], and bad relations with just about everybody else. It also possesses one of the largest armies in the world, and holds the record for highest military spending as percentage of GDP – so much, that rather than a country with a military, it has been described as a military with a country – but there's no need to worry because the army is so badly equipped. Spending most of a country's GDP on the military doesn't amount to much when there's not much GDP to begin with, after all (which in turn is probably not unrelated to the fact that so much output is swallowed by the military, instead of used to support economic growth).

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The [[NonIndicativeName Democratic]] [[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny People's]] [[HereditaryRepublic Republic of Korea]], far better known as North Korea, is a [[BlatantLies workers' paradise]] in East Asia which controls much of the northern Korean peninsula. It was founded in 1948, something the late Creator/ChristopherHitchens noted: "You almost get the feeling that Kim Il-sung was handed a copy of ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' in Korean that year and asked, 'Do you think we could make this work?' And he thought, 'Well I don't know, but we can sure give it the old college try.'" Indeed, North Korea is probably the closest any society has ever come to realizing a real life Oceania. A highly isolationist and rigidly controlled society, it has reasonable relations with its two powerful northern neighbors, the [[UsefulNotes/{{China}} People's Republic of China]][[note]] Relations have soured considerably after the whole nuclear weapons rigmarole, now North Korea is more likely to serve as an embarrassment to China than anything else. The interest China has in North Korea these days is keeping the government from collapsing so their border won't be swamped by a flood of North Korean refugees.refugees and because North Korea getting annexed by the South would mean American bases on their borders.[[/note]] and UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}; while maintaining unbelievably terrible relations with its southern neighbor, [[UsefulNotes/SouthKorea the Republic of Korea]][[note]] although the ceasefire from the Korean War was established in 1953 and continues to this day, North and South have always technically been at war, and every so often the North sends the South a poke, or some artillery shells[[/note]], as well as with the UsefulNotes/UnitedStates, UsefulNotes/{{Japan}}, and UsefulNotes/{{Israel}}[[note]] North Korea does not officially recognize the state of Israel, and as per Cold War politics, they officially back the Arab states like the Soviet Union did, and support the terrorist group Hamas. Some of North Korean propaganda is filled with antisemitic rhetoric as well[[/note]]; keeping good relations with UsefulNotes/{{Iran}}, UsefulNotes/{{Syria}}, UsefulNotes/{{Cuba}}, UsefulNotes/{{Venezuela}}, and UsefulNotes/{{Pakistan}}[[note]] All five of these states have been hostile to the United States, Japan, Israel, and/or South Korea in one way or another. Pakistan's ''government'' had a long history of good relations with the USA until [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror the Bin Laden raid]] blew that up and caused the US to pivot to more overt support of India (a reversal of the situation during the Cold War, where India did not enjoy much American support due to its vaguely socialist policies and elected Marxist government in Bengal); Pakistan's ''people'', however, despise Americans more than anyone else on Earth. Cuba and Venezuela are Socialist states known to spat with the USA, though Cuba has since restored ties with the US[[/note]], and bad relations with just about everybody else. It also possesses one of the largest armies in the world, and holds the record for highest military spending as percentage of GDP – so much, that rather than a country with a military, it has been described as a military with a country – but there's no need to worry because the army is so badly equipped. Spending most of a country's GDP on the military doesn't amount to much when there's not much GDP to begin with, after all (which in turn is probably not unrelated to the fact that so much output is swallowed by the military, instead of used to support economic growth).
14th Jun '16 9:38:36 AM MysteriousZorua1994
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The [[NonIndicativeName Democratic]] [[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny People's]] [[HereditaryRepublic Republic of Korea]], far better known as North Korea, is a [[BlatantLies workers' paradise]] in East Asia which controls much of the northern Korean peninsula. It was founded in 1948, something the late Creator/ChristopherHitchens noted: "You almost get the feeling that Kim Il-sung was handed a copy of ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' in Korean that year and asked, 'Do you think we could make this work?' And he thought, 'Well I don't know, but we can sure give it the old college try.'" Indeed, North Korea is probably the closest any society has ever come to realizing a real life Oceania. A highly isolationist and rigidly controlled society, it has reasonable relations with its two powerful northern neighbors, the [[UsefulNotes/{{China}} People's Republic of China]][[note]] Relations have soured considerably after the whole nuclear weapons rigmarole, now North Korea is more likely to serve as an embarrassment to China than anything else. The interest China has in North Korea these days is keeping the government from collapsing so their border won't be swamped by a flood of North Korean refugees.[[/note]] and UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}; while maintaining unbelievably terrible relations with its southern neighbor, [[UsefulNotes/SouthKorea the Republic of Korea]][[note]] although the ceasefire from the Korean War was established in 1953 and continues to this day, North and South have always technically been at war, and every so often the North sends the South a poke, or some artillery shells[[/note]], as well as with the UsefulNotes/UnitedStates, UsefulNotes/{{Japan}}, and UsefulNotes/{{Israel}}[[note]] North Korea does not officially recognize the state of Israel, and as per Cold War politics, they officially back the Arab states like the Soviet Union did. Some of North Korean propaganda is filled with antisemitic rhetoric as well[[/note]]; keeping good relations with UsefulNotes/{{Iran}}, UsefulNotes/{{Syria}}, UsefulNotes/{{Cuba}}, UsefulNotes/{{Venezuela}}, and UsefulNotes/{{Pakistan}}[[note]] All five of these states have been hostile to the United States, Japan, Israel, and/or South Korea in one way or another. Pakistan's ''government'' had a long history of good relations with the USA until [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror the Bin Laden raid]] blew that up and caused the US to pivot to more overt support of India (a reversal of the situation during the Cold War, where India did not enjoy much American support due to its vaguely socialist policies and elected Marxist government in Bengal); Pakistan's ''people'', however, despise Americans more than anyone else on Earth. Cuba and Venezuela are Socialist states known to spat with the USA[[/note]], and bad relations with just about everybody else. It also possesses one of the largest armies in the world, and holds the record for highest military spending as percentage of GDP – so much, that rather than a country with a military, it has been described as a military with a country – but there's no need to worry because the army is so badly equipped. Spending most of a country's GDP on the military doesn't amount to much when there's not much GDP to begin with, after all (which in turn is probably not unrelated to the fact that so much output is swallowed by the military, instead of used to support economic growth).

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The [[NonIndicativeName Democratic]] [[PeoplesRepublicOfTyranny People's]] [[HereditaryRepublic Republic of Korea]], far better known as North Korea, is a [[BlatantLies workers' paradise]] in East Asia which controls much of the northern Korean peninsula. It was founded in 1948, something the late Creator/ChristopherHitchens noted: "You almost get the feeling that Kim Il-sung was handed a copy of ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' in Korean that year and asked, 'Do you think we could make this work?' And he thought, 'Well I don't know, but we can sure give it the old college try.'" Indeed, North Korea is probably the closest any society has ever come to realizing a real life Oceania. A highly isolationist and rigidly controlled society, it has reasonable relations with its two powerful northern neighbors, the [[UsefulNotes/{{China}} People's Republic of China]][[note]] Relations have soured considerably after the whole nuclear weapons rigmarole, now North Korea is more likely to serve as an embarrassment to China than anything else. The interest China has in North Korea these days is keeping the government from collapsing so their border won't be swamped by a flood of North Korean refugees.[[/note]] and UsefulNotes/{{Russia}}; while maintaining unbelievably terrible relations with its southern neighbor, [[UsefulNotes/SouthKorea the Republic of Korea]][[note]] although the ceasefire from the Korean War was established in 1953 and continues to this day, North and South have always technically been at war, and every so often the North sends the South a poke, or some artillery shells[[/note]], as well as with the UsefulNotes/UnitedStates, UsefulNotes/{{Japan}}, and UsefulNotes/{{Israel}}[[note]] North Korea does not officially recognize the state of Israel, and as per Cold War politics, they officially back the Arab states like the Soviet Union did.did, and support the terrorist group Hamas. Some of North Korean propaganda is filled with antisemitic rhetoric as well[[/note]]; keeping good relations with UsefulNotes/{{Iran}}, UsefulNotes/{{Syria}}, UsefulNotes/{{Cuba}}, UsefulNotes/{{Venezuela}}, and UsefulNotes/{{Pakistan}}[[note]] All five of these states have been hostile to the United States, Japan, Israel, and/or South Korea in one way or another. Pakistan's ''government'' had a long history of good relations with the USA until [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror the Bin Laden raid]] blew that up and caused the US to pivot to more overt support of India (a reversal of the situation during the Cold War, where India did not enjoy much American support due to its vaguely socialist policies and elected Marxist government in Bengal); Pakistan's ''people'', however, despise Americans more than anyone else on Earth. Cuba and Venezuela are Socialist states known to spat with the USA[[/note]], USA, though Cuba has since restored ties with the US[[/note]], and bad relations with just about everybody else. It also possesses one of the largest armies in the world, and holds the record for highest military spending as percentage of GDP – so much, that rather than a country with a military, it has been described as a military with a country – but there's no need to worry because the army is so badly equipped. Spending most of a country's GDP on the military doesn't amount to much when there's not much GDP to begin with, after all (which in turn is probably not unrelated to the fact that so much output is swallowed by the military, instead of used to support economic growth).
24th Apr '16 1:42:16 PM RobTan
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** I one episode he's shown having a meeting with four Asian men, one wearing what looks like a KPA uniform, although when he speaks to them in Korean, none of them understand him.
22nd Apr '16 12:56:56 PM TargetmasterJoe
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* ''Film/TheInterview'' has [[Creator/JamesFranco a dense TV interviewer]] and [[Creator/SethRogen his more down-to-earth producer/best friend]] finding themselves going to North Korea for an interview with Kim Jong-Un (who happens to be a fan of their show)...which quickly turns into a CIA-backed mission to assassinate the dictator. Needless to say, [[{{Understatement}} the real North Korea was quite upset at this movie]]. So much so that it formed the Guardians of Peace and infamously leaked the hell out of Creator/{{Sony}}. This got Sony to cancel the theatrical release...but that didn't stop the movie from being seen on Creator/{{Netflix}} and other forms of media.

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* ''Film/TheInterview'' has [[Creator/JamesFranco a dense TV interviewer]] talk show host Dave Skylark]] and [[Creator/SethRogen his more down-to-earth producer/best friend]] friend Dave Rapaport]] finding themselves going to North Korea for an interview with Kim Jong-Un (who happens to be a fan of their show)...which quickly turns into a CIA-backed mission to assassinate the dictator. Needless to say, [[{{Understatement}} the real North Korea was quite upset at this movie]]. So much so that it formed the Guardians of Peace and infamously leaked the hell out of Creator/{{Sony}}. This got Sony to cancel the theatrical release...but that didn't stop the movie from being seen on Creator/{{Netflix}} and other forms of media.YouTube.
22nd Apr '16 12:51:31 PM TargetmasterJoe
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* ''Film/TheInterview'' has [[Creator/JamesFranco a dense TV interviewer]] and [[Creator/SethRogen his more down-to-earth producer/best friend]] finding themselves going to North Korea for an interview with Kim Jong-Un (who happens to be a fan of their show)...which quickly turns into a CIA-backed mission to assassinate the dictator. Needless to say, [[{{Understatement}} the real North Korea was quite upset at this movie]]. So much so that it formed the Guardians of Peace and infamously leaked the hell out of Creator/{{Sony}}. This got Sony to cancel the theatrical release...but that didn't stop the movie from being seen on Creator/{{Netflix}} and other forms of media.
19th Apr '16 2:07:44 PM Willbyr
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* ''TheLegendOfKoizumi'' has Kim Jong-Il as one of Koizumi's early opponents. He later returns [[spoiler:as a {{Cyborg}}]].

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* ''TheLegendOfKoizumi'' ''Manga/TheLegendOfKoizumi'' has Kim Jong-Il as one of Koizumi's early opponents. He later returns [[spoiler:as a {{Cyborg}}]].
6th Apr '16 11:49:14 PM Wuz
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* Featured as the antagonists in a CaptainErsatz [[BannedInChina of sorts of the PRC]] in ''VideoGame/{{CRYSIS}}''.

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* Featured as the antagonists in a CaptainErsatz [[BannedInChina of sorts of the PRC]] in ''VideoGame/{{CRYSIS}}''.''VideoGame/{{Crysis}}''.
23rd Mar '16 7:11:52 AM quirkygenius
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Whilst its portrayal as the CardCarryingVillain of world politics is [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain frequently played for laughs]], it may do you good to recall that this country is indeed home to 25 million people who never asked to live in a totalitarian nightmare. So, RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment very much applies.

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Whilst its portrayal as the CardCarryingVillain of world politics is [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain frequently played for laughs]], it may do you good to recall that this country is indeed home to 25 million people who never asked to live in a totalitarian nightmare.nightmare; that said regime is responsible for the deaths of over a million people and the destitution of many more. So, RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment very much applies.
3rd Mar '16 10:43:12 PM memememememe
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The second North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il was seen by the West as a real-life [[Film/AustinPowers Dr. Evil]] and actually a ''Film/JamesBond'' fan. (Except ''Film/DieAnotherDay'', [[CaptainObvious obviously]]. But then, there are claims by former White House adviser Victor Cha in his book that Kim Jong-il watched the film and was impressed. Knowing him, he would probably have ordered a few hovercraft thinking it would be a good idea.) He died in December 2011, with the announcement coming a couple of days after the fact, having reigned since his father's death in 1994. North Korean state media announced that he will be succeeded by his youngest son, Kim Jong-un. It should be noted that neither Kim Jong-il nor Kim Jong-un were given the title "head of state", that title still belongs to Kim Il-Sung… who died in 1994. [[CaptainObvious They take his title as the "Eternal President" very seriously]], [[UpToEleven continually referring to him in the present tense]].

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The second North Korean dictator Kim Jong-il was seen by the West as a real-life [[Film/AustinPowers Dr. Evil]] and actually a ''Film/JamesBond'' fan. (Except ''Film/DieAnotherDay'', [[CaptainObvious obviously]]. But then, there are claims by former White House adviser Victor Cha in his book that Kim Jong-il watched the film and was impressed. Knowing him, he would probably have ordered a few hovercraft thinking it would be a good idea.) He died in December 2011, with the announcement coming a couple of days after the fact, having reigned since his father's death in 1994. North Korean state media announced that he will be succeeded by his youngest son, Kim Jong-un. It should be noted that neither Kim Jong-il nor Kim Jong-un were given the title "head of state", that title still belongs to Kim Il-Sung… who died in 1994. [[CaptainObvious They take his title as the [[GodEmperor "Eternal President" President"]] very seriously]], seriously, [[UpToEleven continually referring to him in the present tense]].
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