History UsefulNotes / NazisWithGnarlyWeapons

20th May '18 2:59:11 PM costanton11
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-->-- '''Erwin Rommel''', MagnificentBastard, ''Infanterie greift an''[[note]]''Infantry Attacks'' - the very BOOK! that Patton read.[[/note]]

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-->-- '''Erwin Rommel''', MagnificentBastard, ''Infanterie greift an''[[note]]''Infantry Attacks'' - the very BOOK! that Patton read.[[/note]]



Some of the high-ranking Heer officers were respected by their Allied opponents, if only because said Allied opponents didn't know what they'd been up to on the Eastern Front and in the occupied territories. The most famous of these is Erwin Rommel, the Desert Fox and the TropeNamer of MagnificentBastard. Churchill himself said it was a shame Rommel was on the other side. As most in the Heer were conscripts who believed in "MyCountryRightOrWrong", quite a few officers successfully portrayed themselves as having been this way as well and so salvaged their careers following the war. Erich von Manstein, who promoted himself as an apolitical Master of Strategy (despite his role in executing the Holocaust and litany of defeats against the Soviets), was the most famous of these. The senior ex-Wehrmacht personnel convicted of War Crimes were released by 1955, despite having received much longer sentences, and so advised on the creation of the [[UsefulNotes/WeAreNotTheWehrmacht Bundeswehr in 1955.]] Friedrich Foertsch, the 1961-3 Inspector-General (''de facto'' Chief of Staff) of the Bundeswehr had actually received a death sentence for his war crimes[[note]] Executing a scorched-earth strategy which destroyed a half-dozen cities (including the ancient trade-city of Novgorod) during the winter of 1944-5 and so imperiled the lives of hundreds of thousands of Soviet civilians. It must be stated that this was standard procedure for German forces operating in the Eastern Theatre and was not anything particularly heinous by the standards of his fellow commanders. The Soviets were probably more pissed at his role in maintaining The Siege of Leningrad and the usual killings of Soviet civilians & POW [[/note]]. This was commuted to 25 years' Hard Labour and in 1955 he was released at Chancellor Konrad Adenauer's personal insistence.

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Some of the high-ranking Heer officers were respected by their Allied opponents, if only because said Allied opponents didn't know what they'd been up to on the Eastern Front and in the occupied territories. The most famous of these is Erwin Rommel, the Desert Fox and the TropeNamer of MagnificentBastard.Fox. Churchill himself said it was a shame Rommel was on the other side. As most in the Heer were conscripts who believed in "MyCountryRightOrWrong", quite a few officers successfully portrayed themselves as having been this way as well and so salvaged their careers following the war. Erich von Manstein, who promoted himself as an apolitical Master of Strategy (despite his role in executing the Holocaust and litany of defeats against the Soviets), was the most famous of these. The senior ex-Wehrmacht personnel convicted of War Crimes were released by 1955, despite having received much longer sentences, and so advised on the creation of the [[UsefulNotes/WeAreNotTheWehrmacht Bundeswehr in 1955.]] Friedrich Foertsch, the 1961-3 Inspector-General (''de facto'' Chief of Staff) of the Bundeswehr had actually received a death sentence for his war crimes[[note]] Executing a scorched-earth strategy which destroyed a half-dozen cities (including the ancient trade-city of Novgorod) during the winter of 1944-5 and so imperiled the lives of hundreds of thousands of Soviet civilians. It must be stated that this was standard procedure for German forces operating in the Eastern Theatre and was not anything particularly heinous by the standards of his fellow commanders. The Soviets were probably more pissed at his role in maintaining The Siege of Leningrad and the usual killings of Soviet civilians & POW [[/note]]. This was commuted to 25 years' Hard Labour and in 1955 he was released at Chancellor Konrad Adenauer's personal insistence.
20th May '18 2:11:56 PM costanton11
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* '''The Russian Liberation Army''': Recruited from anti-Bolshevik Soviet [=POWs=] and several other Russian emigre forces, and led by a former general of Josef Stalin's, Andrey Vlasov. Hitler disliked it intensely, and only agreed to its formation on the prompting of a desperate Heinrich Himmler. It was employed against one of the Red Army offensives of 1945, and whilst it performed relatively well its lack of weapons and medical supplies limited its effectiveness and the Red Army soon broke its back. Seeing that the writing was on the wall, Vlasov ordered all the army to concentrate in the south of their assigned front (within the modern-day Czech Republic) so they could attempt to march to Bavaria and surrender to the Western allies (who he hoped wouldn't repatriate him). In a last, desperate attempt to save themselves, the division aided the Czech resistance [[HeelFaceTurn against the Germans]], and was vital to the defense of Prague from Waffen-SS soldiers sent to level it. Afterwards, it splintered. Those caught by the Soviets were sent to Siberia or killed, those caught by the Allies were forcibly repatriated or permitted to escape by officers looking the other way, and those very few who went to Lichtenstein were granted political asylum, as the tiny principality defied the largest country on earth's demands to return them. Vlasov was hanged, according to one witness [[CruelAndUnusualDeath with piano wire and a hook on the base of his skull]].

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* '''The Russian Liberation Army''': Recruited from anti-Bolshevik Soviet [=POWs=] and several other Russian emigre forces, and led by a former general of Josef Stalin's, Andrey Vlasov. Hitler disliked it intensely, and only agreed to its formation on the prompting of a desperate Heinrich Himmler. It was employed against one of the Red Army offensives of 1945, and whilst it performed relatively well its lack of weapons and medical supplies limited its effectiveness and the Red Army soon broke its back. Seeing that the writing was on the wall, Vlasov ordered all the army to concentrate in the south of their assigned front (within the modern-day Czech Republic) so they could attempt to march to Bavaria and surrender to the Western allies (who he hoped wouldn't repatriate him). In a last, desperate attempt to save themselves, the division aided the Czech resistance [[HeelFaceTurn against the Germans]], Germans, and was vital to the defense of Prague from Waffen-SS soldiers sent to level it. Afterwards, it splintered. Those caught by the Soviets were sent to Siberia or killed, those caught by the Allies were forcibly repatriated or permitted to escape by officers looking the other way, and those very few who went to Lichtenstein were granted political asylum, as the tiny principality defied the largest country on earth's demands to return them. Vlasov was hanged, according to one witness [[CruelAndUnusualDeath with piano wire and a hook on the base of his skull]].
11th Apr '18 10:21:10 PM zaja
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** SS-Oberscharführer (Translates to ?Sergeant First Class?)

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** SS-Oberscharführer (Translates (Equivalent to ?Sergeant Sergeant First Class?)Class)
7th Apr '18 12:46:36 PM Shamrock95
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->''Whether ten-thousand Russian females die digging an anti-tank ditch interests me only insofar as Germany's antitank ditch gets finished.''

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->''Whether ten-thousand ten thousand Russian females die digging an anti-tank antitank ditch interests me only insofar as Germany's antitank ditch gets finished.''
6th Apr '18 9:47:26 PM nombretomado
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The iconic pistol associated with Nazis is the Pistole 08, universally known as the "Luger", and also as ''Parabellum''. The pistol was actually used in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, but was gradually being replaced by the Walther P38 after 1938. The pistol just [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Parabellum_1586.jpg looks evil]] ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Walter_HP_Speerwerke_1428.jpg so does the P38]], just that it's [[OurWeaponsWillBeBoxyInTheFuture slightly boxier]]) and enough were [[{{Plunder}} collected as trophies]] by Allied soldiers to ensure continued currency. The Walther P38 was also still manufactured until 2004 as an updated version called the P1 and was still used by the German army until being phased out. As with the K98 example above, however, despite its refinements in mass production technology there were simply not enough P38s to go around that the Luger could be removed from service (even had any of the servicemen who were lucky enough to have one been inclined to do so), so the two sidearms soldiered along side by side for the duration of the war. The P38 is also associated with another evil figure in modern culture, [[TheTransformers Megatron]]. Another iconic pistol is the Walther PPK; the gun that Film/JamesBond uses is also the one that Hitler used to kill himself.

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The iconic pistol associated with Nazis is the Pistole 08, universally known as the "Luger", and also as ''Parabellum''. The pistol was actually used in UsefulNotes/WorldWarI, but was gradually being replaced by the Walther P38 after 1938. The pistol just [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Parabellum_1586.jpg looks evil]] ([[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Walter_HP_Speerwerke_1428.jpg so does the P38]], just that it's [[OurWeaponsWillBeBoxyInTheFuture slightly boxier]]) and enough were [[{{Plunder}} collected as trophies]] by Allied soldiers to ensure continued currency. The Walther P38 was also still manufactured until 2004 as an updated version called the P1 and was still used by the German army until being phased out. As with the K98 example above, however, despite its refinements in mass production technology there were simply not enough P38s to go around that the Luger could be removed from service (even had any of the servicemen who were lucky enough to have one been inclined to do so), so the two sidearms soldiered along side by side for the duration of the war. The P38 is also associated with another evil figure in modern culture, [[TheTransformers [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers Megatron]]. Another iconic pistol is the Walther PPK; the gun that Film/JamesBond uses is also the one that Hitler used to kill himself.
6th Apr '18 9:44:15 PM Caps-luna
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As for the performance of said surface vessels, Nearly all of Germany's surface ships from its destroyers all the way up to its battleships followed a design philosophy called a "commerce raider". The idea was to build ships capable of destroying the entirety of a convoy by itself or with very little support. As such, rate of fire was normally prioritized and secondary gun battery armament on cruisers and battleships were taken more seriously than on other nations. They also tended to be individually far more powerful than other comparable types in other nations due to limited amounts of ship yards available and a desire the maximize the efforts of each one. The commerce raider concept would initially prove to be effective with the pocket battleship, a sort of hybrid between a heavy cruiser and a battleship, was able to go on an anti commerce rampage in the Atlantic before being stopped. However improved reconnaissance soon meant that these small raiding parties could no longer slip in and out of the Atlantic uncontested and the numerically inferior surface force was essentially condemned to their ports while they were outstripped in terms of performance by waves of new improved allied surface vessels.
21st Jan '18 2:09:10 PM zsax
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** SS-Obersturmführer (Equivalent to (1st) Lieutenant)

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** SS-Obersturmführer (Equivalent to (1st) First Lieutenant)



** SS-Oberführer (Equivalent to Senior-Colonel)

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** SS-Oberführer (Equivalent to Senior-Colonel)Senior Colonel)
21st Jan '18 2:05:24 PM zsax
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** SS-Oberführer (Equivalent to Brigadier-General)
** SS-Brigadeführer (Equivalent to Major General)
** SS-Gruppenführer (Equivalent to Lieutenant General)
** SS-Obergruppenführer (Equivalent to General)
** SS-Oberst-Gruppenführer (Equivalent to Field Marshal or General of the Army)
** Reichsführer-SS (Special rank for the head of the entire Schutzstaffel. Equivalent to General of the Armies)

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** SS-Oberführer (Equivalent to Brigadier-General)
Senior-Colonel)
** SS-Brigadeführer (Equivalent to Major Brigadier General)
** SS-Gruppenführer (Equivalent to Lieutenant Major General)
** SS-Obergruppenführer (Equivalent to Lieutenant General)
** SS-Oberst-Gruppenführer (Equivalent to Field Marshal or General of the Army)
General)
** Reichsführer-SS (Special rank for the head of the entire Schutzstaffel. Equivalent to Field Marshal or General of the Armies)Army)
2nd Jan '18 5:31:45 AM CrowTR0bot
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** SS-Oberstgruppenführer (Equivalent to Field Marshal or General of the Army)

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** SS-Oberstgruppenführer SS-Oberst-Gruppenführer (Equivalent to Field Marshal or General of the Army)
27th Nov '17 6:34:30 PM nombretomado
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** Not to be confused with the ''Azad Hind Fauj'', or Indian National Army, the revolutionary force led by Bose after his departure from Germany and sponsored by [[KatanasOfTheRisingSun Imperial Japan]]. By contrast, the INA took part in a general uprising in the Subcontinent that led to the British responding with an actual ''aerial bombardments'' on British India.

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** Not to be confused with the ''Azad Hind Fauj'', or Indian National Army, the revolutionary force led by Bose after his departure from Germany and sponsored by [[KatanasOfTheRisingSun [[UsefulNotes/KatanasOfTheRisingSun Imperial Japan]]. By contrast, the INA took part in a general uprising in the Subcontinent that led to the British responding with an actual ''aerial bombardments'' on British India.
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