History UsefulNotes / IndonesiansWithInfantry

26th Oct '17 12:32:47 AM KanekiKun
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UsefulNotes/{{Indonesia}}'s military force is called the TNI (Tentara Nasional Indonesia, Indonesia National Armed Forces). The branches are TNI Angkatan Darat (Army), TNI Angkatan Laut (Navy) and TNI Angkatan Udara (Air Force). They have several spec ops groups, most notably Kopassus (Komando Pasukan Khusus). The spec ops units are notorious for friendly fire incidents in Timor Leste, friendly fire incidents in Aceh, friendly fire incidents during training [[note]] Just kidding, but it's more likely than you'd like to believe.[[/note]], atrocities against Malaysian civilians, atrocities against East Timorese civilians, atrocities against Acehnese civilians, and probably shooting protesting college students. Indonesian equipments boast very high reliability, and in some cases, abilities not present in their foreign counterparts. For example, during several trainings in the 80s (or is it the 90s?), several APCs were able to dive underwater for a very long stretch of time. [[note]] So long, in fact, that said APCs still haven't resurfaced... yet.[[/note]] The most recent accident involving TNI's military equipments was in May 2009, when a C-130 Hercules carrying about 100 soldiers crashed into a village in East Java, killing almost everyone on board and several villagers. If you ask an Indonesian about this, there's a pretty high chance they would just say "What?"

Aside from doing things the government isn't comfortable to admit in Timor Leste, Malaysia and Aceh, they've also participated in the UNPROFOR. They also have a marine corps, which is attached to the Navy. They're pretty well-equipped, operating BTR-80 APCs, the BMP-3 IFV and PT-76 amphibious tanks, however they're relatively unheard of compared to the other branches.

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UsefulNotes/{{Indonesia}}'s military force is called the TNI (Tentara Nasional Indonesia, Indonesia National Armed Forces). The branches are TNI Angkatan Darat (Army), TNI Angkatan Laut (Navy) and TNI Angkatan Udara (Air Force). They have several spec ops groups, most notably Kopassus (Komando Pasukan Khusus). The spec ops units are notorious for friendly fire incidents in Timor Leste, friendly fire incidents in Aceh, friendly fire incidents during training [[note]] Just kidding, but it's more likely than you'd like to believe.[[/note]], atrocities against Malaysian civilians, atrocities against East Timorese civilians, atrocities against Acehnese civilians, and probably shooting protesting college students. Indonesian equipments boast very high reliability, and in some cases, abilities not present in their foreign counterparts. For example, during several trainings in the 80s (or is it the 90s?), several APCs were able to dive underwater for a very long stretch of time. [[note]] So long, in fact, that said APCs still haven't resurfaced... yet.[[/note]] The most recent accident involving TNI's military equipments was in May 2009, when a C-130 Hercules carrying about 100 soldiers crashed into a village in East Java, killing almost everyone on board and several villagers. If you ask an Indonesian about this, there's a pretty high chance they would just say "What?"\n\nAside from doing things the government isn't comfortable to admit in Timor Leste, Malaysia and Aceh, they've

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also participated in the UNPROFOR. They also have a marine corps, which is attached to the Navy. They're pretty well-equipped, operating BTR-80 APCs, the BMP-3 IFV and PT-76 amphibious tanks, however they're relatively unheard of compared to the other branches.



** Indonesia has a rare record of few nations which their F-16-s have accidents. Embarassingly, this happened 5 times in 3 decades.
* The police force is called Polri (Polisi Republik Indonesia). Regional units are called Polda (Polisi Daerah). They're quite prone to human right abuses such as torturing prisoners and extracting informations at gunpoint. Indonesian detention facilities are generally not very nice, with drug circulation, low ventilation, bad hygiene and beating everywhere. Except if you happen to be a rich corruptor, in which case you can get a hidden air conditioned room with luxurious facilities, and occasionally porn [=DVDs=]...hell, sometimes you can even get the real thing. Formerly a part of the Armed Forces, today the POLRI is a directly reporting agency of the Ministry of Home Affairs and the Office of the President.

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** Indonesia has a rare record of few nations which their F-16-s have accidents. Embarassingly, this This happened 5 times in 3 decades.
* The police force is called Polri (Polisi Republik Indonesia). Regional units are called Polda (Polisi Daerah). They're quite prone to human right abuses such as torturing prisoners and extracting informations at gunpoint. Indonesian detention facilities are generally not very nice, with drug circulation, low ventilation, bad hygiene and beating everywhere. Except if you happen to be a rich corruptor, in which case you can get a hidden air conditioned room with luxurious facilities, and occasionally porn [=DVDs=]...hell, sometimes you can even get the real thing. Formerly a part of the Armed Forces, today the POLRI is a directly reporting agency of the Ministry of Home Affairs and the Office of the President.



* The KOPASKA or Naval Frogmen Unit, modeled on the Navy SEALs and with a similar recuriting policy (and have continued joint training with them as it was in the early days of its formation). Organized into two Battalion Combat Teams with 6 Teams per fleet command.

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* The KOPASKA or Naval Frogmen Unit, modeled on the Navy SEALs and with a similar recuriting recruiting policy (and have continued joint training with them as it was in the early days of its formation). Organized into two Battalion Combat Teams with 6 Teams per fleet command.
18th Aug '17 7:12:58 PM JohnRamos88
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* Miliary Police Command




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* Air Education and Training Command



** The fact that Suharto would later become a dictator who served for 31 years in the presidential office is the OldShame of the unit, especially veterans who served under him when he was the founding commanding general from 1962 to 1965, when he was promoted to Chief of the Army after distinguishing himself in the events of the 30 September Movement attempted coup that very same year in the capital area. (Not much right given the ban on Communism that started under his government.)

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** The fact that Suharto would later become a dictator who served for 31 years in the presidential office is the OldShame of the unit, especially veterans who served under him when he was the founding commanding general from 1962 to 1965, when he was promoted to Chief of the Army after distinguishing himself in the events of the 30 September Movement attempted coup that very same year in the capital area. (Not much right bad given the ban on Communism that started under his government.government, and it's an established fact.)



* The Presidential Security Forces (Paspampres), successor to the infamous Tjakrabirawa Regiment (in service 1962-65 and had been possibly the ones responsible for the 1965 coup) is the official presidential guard brigade of the armed forces, formed into 4 regiments plus other support units that serve the President, the Vice President, foreign guests, and former heads of state, the First Family and families of former Presidents and Vice Presidents. Identified by their ceremonial red shakos, blue peaked caps and scarlet dress uniforms on ceremonial events or blue berets during normal days and weekends. Formed by personnel seconded from the elite forces of the Armed Forces and the Police.

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* The Presidential Security Forces (Paspampres), successor to the infamous Tjakrabirawa Regiment (in service 1962-65 and had been possibly the ones responsible for the 1965 coup) is the official presidential guard brigade of the armed forces, formed into 4 regiments plus other support units that serve the President, the Vice President, foreign guests, and former heads of state, the First Family and families of former Presidents and Vice Presidents. Identified by their ceremonial red shakos, blue peaked caps and scarlet dress uniforms on ceremonial events or blue berets during normal days and weekends. Formed by personnel seconded from the elite forces of the Armed Forces and formerly from the Police.
Police Mobile Brigade.
17th Aug '17 7:59:43 PM JohnRamos88
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* The Presidential Security Forces (Paspampres), successor to the infamous Tjakrabirawa Regiment (in service 1962-65 and had been possibly the ones responsible for the 1965 coup) is the official presidential guard regiment of the armed forces, formed into 4 battalions that serve the President, the Vice President, foreign guests, and former heads of state. Identified by their ceremonial red shakos and blue peaked caps and uniforms on ceremonial events or blue berets during normal days and weekends. Formed by personnel seconded from the elite forces of the Armed Forces and the Police.

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* The Presidential Security Forces (Paspampres), successor to the infamous Tjakrabirawa Regiment (in service 1962-65 and had been possibly the ones responsible for the 1965 coup) is the official presidential guard regiment brigade of the armed forces, formed into 4 battalions regiments plus other support units that serve the President, the Vice President, foreign guests, and former heads of state. state, the First Family and families of former Presidents and Vice Presidents. Identified by their ceremonial red shakos and shakos, blue peaked caps and scarlet dress uniforms on ceremonial events or blue berets during normal days and weekends. Formed by personnel seconded from the elite forces of the Armed Forces and the Police.
17th Aug '17 7:57:00 PM JohnRamos88
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* The Brimob (Brigade Mobil) is pretty much the Indonesian SWAT, only they're less specialized and often perform tasks commonly done by the normal cops in foreign countries. Founded in 1946, recognized by their red berets.
* The Kopassus (Komando Pasukan Khusus, i.e. The Special Forces) have tales of rampant badassery throughout its ranks. Some of it even stray into the supernatural sometimes, the most famous being one tale where a Kopassus soldier shrugging off a sniper round to the temple in a live-fire exercise. Formed as a Regiment of 6 SF Groups, recognized by their red berets given that its founder was an ex-Netherlands Army Special Forces operator.

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* The Brimob (Brigade Mobil) is pretty much the Indonesian SWAT, only they're less specialized and often perform tasks commonly done by the normal cops in foreign countries. Founded in 1946, recognized by their red berets.
berets, and organized as a full Corps with regional regiments nationwide.
* The Kopassus (Komando Pasukan Khusus, i.e. The Special Forces) have tales of rampant badassery throughout its ranks. Some of it even stray into the supernatural sometimes, the most famous being one tale where a Kopassus soldier shrugging off a sniper round to the temple in a live-fire exercise. Formed as a Regiment full division of 6 4 SF Groups, Regiments and one training center, recognized by their red berets given that its founder was an ex-Netherlands Army Special Forces operator.
17th Aug '17 7:55:00 PM JohnRamos88
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** Recently, TNI AD has purchased MBT, specifically Leopards. The decision is questioned as Indonesia has limited use of it because Indonesian Terrain doesn't support it: Java has to many open terrain but primary staple is rice which is planted on muddy rice paddies, so open terrain is muddy; elsewhere either has limited open terrain or mountainous.
* They have F-16 and Su-27 fighters. They also have A-4 Skyhawk and OV-10 Bronco ground attack crafts and BAE Hawk light fighters, but don't like to admit it, the former because they were bought from Israel, and the latter because they were bought for COIN operations in East Timor (alongside the Hawks). The TNI AU is the second military force outside of the US to operate the C-130 Hercules cargo planes, though all of them are very very very [[BrokenRecord very very]] rickety. They have several [[SoGoodWeMentionedItTwice (presumably rickety)]] black Mi-24 Hind gunships. The Mi-8 Hip helicopter is used by both the army and the police. The navy owns several types of naval helicopters, mostly British, plus nationally made transports. [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment (A similarity that runs across every single one of their equipments is that they like to break down. A lot.)]]

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** Recently, TNI AD has purchased MBT, specifically Leopards. Leopards, for the Kostrad. The decision is questioned as Indonesia has limited use of it because Indonesian Terrain doesn't support it: Java has to many open terrain but primary staple is rice which is planted on muddy rice paddies, so open terrain is muddy; elsewhere either has limited open terrain or mountainous.
mountainous, to solve these problems a new medium tank is being made with Turkish assistance to adapt to the wide range of terrain the country has.
* They have F-16 and Su-27 fighters.fighters (plus new Su-30MK2s). They also have A-4 Skyhawk and OV-10 Bronco ground attack crafts and BAE Hawk light fighters, but don't like to admit it, the former because they were bought from Israel, and the latter because they were bought for COIN operations in East Timor (alongside the Hawks). The TNI AU is the second military force outside of the US to operate the C-130 Hercules cargo planes, though all of them are very very very [[BrokenRecord very very]] rickety. They have several [[SoGoodWeMentionedItTwice (presumably rickety)]] black Mi-24 Hind gunships. The Mi-8 Hip helicopter is used by both the army and the police. The navy owns several types of naval helicopters, mostly British, plus nationally made transports. [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment (A similarity that runs across every single one of their equipments is that they like to break down. A lot.)]]
1st Jul '17 4:43:55 PM nombretomado
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Oldest of the services, as per TheOtherWiki the Army - in its beginnings made up of both pro-Japan militias and the anti-Japanese resistance fighters - is also the biggest and has the lion's share of the defense budget and modern equipment. Has 13 territorial divisional commands plus the Strategic Reserve Corps, the Kopassus, the Women's Army Corps and the Army Air Service. Several of these commands trace their lineage and battle honors to the National Revolution years.

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Oldest of the services, as per TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki the Army - in its beginnings made up of both pro-Japan militias and the anti-Japanese resistance fighters - is also the biggest and has the lion's share of the defense budget and modern equipment. Has 13 territorial divisional commands plus the Strategic Reserve Corps, the Kopassus, the Women's Army Corps and the Army Air Service. Several of these commands trace their lineage and battle honors to the National Revolution years.
25th May '17 2:10:17 AM JohnRamos88
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* TC-5 (Eastern Java)

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* TC-5 "Diponegoro" (Eastern Java)



* TC 8 (Southern Sulawesi)

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* TC 8 TC-14 "Hasanuddin" (Southern Sulawesi)



Second oldest. Founded with the same personnel as the Army but in a later period, also one of the biggest naval forces in Southeast Asia, with a mix of foreign-made and nationally produced vessels. Divided into 3 Fleet Commands, a naval air service and the Marine Corps, the 2nd oldest (after Thailand) in Southeast Asia.

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Second oldest. Founded with the same personnel as the Army but in a later period, also one of the biggest naval forces in Southeast Asia, with a mix of foreign-made and nationally produced vessels. Divided into 3 2 Fleet Commands, a naval air service and the Marine Corps, the 2nd oldest (after Thailand) in Southeast Asia.



* Central Fleet Forces



** 1st Marine Force
** 2nd Marine Force
** 3rd Marine Brigade




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* Naval Education and Training Command
20th Apr '17 6:25:04 AM EvilKid
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* They own several French AMX light tanks, as main battle tanks aren't suitable for the Indonesian streets... Or so they think. Indonesian buildings aren't very tough, you see. They also operate BTR-80 and BTR-50 armored personnel carriers and V-150 Commando and M113 IFVs. Early Cold War-era British armored cars also appear occassionally. Land Rover Defenders and Singapore's Flyer are used by both the police and the army, sometimes mounted with anti-aircraft guns or Singapore's CIS automatic grenade launchers. The South African Casspir is used by the police. Also, the older BTR APCs are very very rickety: some of them sank during amphibious assault trainings. As for the local ones, Pindad also has started producing the Pindad Panser (meaning armored car), a rather plain looking APC, but that wouldn't be necessarily bad if Indonesia's equipments didn't have the nasty tendency to fall apart at the worst possible moment. Some BMP-2 and PT-76 are in use by the marine corps, as well as a small number of BMP-3. They have also made several anti-riot vehicles. Recently, some Leopard 2 tanks alongside Marder IFV have been purchased from the Netherlands, plus the nationally produced Pindad Panser Anoa APC series.

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* They own several French AMX light tanks, as main battle tanks aren't suitable for the Indonesian streets... Or so they think. Indonesian buildings aren't very tough, you see. They also operate BTR-80 and BTR-50 armored personnel carriers and V-150 Commando and M113 IFVs.IFV-s. Early Cold War-era British armored cars also appear occassionally. Land Rover Defenders and Singapore's Flyer are used by both the police and the army, sometimes mounted with anti-aircraft guns or Singapore's CIS automatic grenade launchers. The South African Casspir is used by the police. Also, the older BTR APCs are very very rickety: some of them sank during amphibious assault trainings. As for the local ones, Pindad also has started producing the Pindad Panser (meaning armored car), a rather plain looking APC, but that wouldn't be necessarily bad if Indonesia's equipments didn't have the nasty tendency to fall apart at the worst possible moment. Some BMP-2 and PT-76 are in use by the marine corps, as well as a small number of BMP-3. They have also made several anti-riot vehicles. Recently, some Leopard 2 tanks alongside Marder IFV have been purchased from the Netherlands, plus the nationally produced Pindad Panser Anoa APC series.series.
** Recently, TNI AD has purchased MBT, specifically Leopards. The decision is questioned as Indonesia has limited use of it because Indonesian Terrain doesn't support it: Java has to many open terrain but primary staple is rice which is planted on muddy rice paddies, so open terrain is muddy; elsewhere either has limited open terrain or mountainous.


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** Indonesia has a rare record of few nations which their F-16-s have accidents. Embarassingly, this happened 5 times in 3 decades.
10th Mar '17 8:09:25 AM JohnRamos88
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Aside from doing things the government isn't comfortable to admit in Timor Leste, Malaysia and Aceh, they've also participated in the UNPROFOR. They also have a marine corps, which is attached to the Navy. They're pretty well-equipped, operating BTR-80 AP Cs, the BMP-3 IFV and PT-76 amphibious tanks, however they're relatively unheard of compared to the other branches.

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Aside from doing things the government isn't comfortable to admit in Timor Leste, Malaysia and Aceh, they've also participated in the UNPROFOR. They also have a marine corps, which is attached to the Navy. They're pretty well-equipped, operating BTR-80 AP Cs, APCs, the BMP-3 IFV and PT-76 amphibious tanks, however they're relatively unheard of compared to the other branches.




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* Training and Doctrine Command
* Support Command




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* Military Sealift Command




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* Air Force Police



* The police force is called Polri (Polisi Republik Indonesia). Regional units are called Polda (Polisi Daerah). They're quite prone to human right abuses such as torturing prisoners and extracting informations at gunpoint. Indonesian detention facilities are generally not very nice, with drug circulation, low ventilation, bad hygiene and beating everywhere. Except if you happen to be a rich corruptor, in which case you can get a hidden air conditioned room with luxurious facilities, and occasionally porn [=DVDs=]...hell, sometimes you can even get the real thing. Formerly a part of the Armed Forces, today the POLRI is a directly reporting agency of the Ministry of Home Affairs.

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* The police force is called Polri (Polisi Republik Indonesia). Regional units are called Polda (Polisi Daerah). They're quite prone to human right abuses such as torturing prisoners and extracting informations at gunpoint. Indonesian detention facilities are generally not very nice, with drug circulation, low ventilation, bad hygiene and beating everywhere. Except if you happen to be a rich corruptor, in which case you can get a hidden air conditioned room with luxurious facilities, and occasionally porn [=DVDs=]...hell, sometimes you can even get the real thing. Formerly a part of the Armed Forces, today the POLRI is a directly reporting agency of the Ministry of Home Affairs.
Affairs and the Office of the President.
* Local police forces (''Satpol PP'') are tasked for protection of cities and municipalities and also act in coordination with the national police. These local police forces are responsible to the Ministry of Home Affairs through their respective local governments.



* The Brimob (Brigade Mobil) is pretty much the Indonesian SWAT, only they're less specialized and often perform tasks commonly done by the normal cops in foreign countries.

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* The Brimob (Brigade Mobil) is pretty much the Indonesian SWAT, only they're less specialized and often perform tasks commonly done by the normal cops in foreign countries. Founded in 1946, recognized by their red berets.



* Marine Force Recon (''Yontalfib'') is organized as a regiment of 2 special force recon battalions within the Marine Corps. Known for their violet berets.



** The fact that Suharto would later become a dictator who served for 31 years in the presidential office is the OldShame of the unit, especially veterans who served under him when he was the founding commanding general from 1962 to 1965, when he was promoted to Chief of the Army after distinguishing himself in the events of the 30 September Movement attempted coup that very same year in the capital area. (Not much rightm given the ban on Communism that started under his government.)

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** The fact that Suharto would later become a dictator who served for 31 years in the presidential office is the OldShame of the unit, especially veterans who served under him when he was the founding commanding general from 1962 to 1965, when he was promoted to Chief of the Army after distinguishing himself in the events of the 30 September Movement attempted coup that very same year in the capital area. (Not much rightm right given the ban on Communism that started under his government.)
6th Dec '16 6:21:55 PM JohnRamos88
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* TC-2 (South Sumatra)

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* TC-2 (South "Sriwijaya"(South Sumatra)



* TC 11 (Western Kalimantan)
* TC 8 (Eastern Kalimantan)
* TC 7 (Sulawesi)

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* TC 11 TC-6 (Eastern Kalimantan)
* TC-12
(Western Kalimantan)
* TC 8 (Eastern Kalimantan)
(Southern Sulawesi)
* TC 7 (Sulawesi)TC-13 "Merdeka"(Northern Sulawesi, reformed 2016 after being disbanded in 1983)



* TC 17 (Western Papua)

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* TC 17 (Central Papua)
* TC-18
(Western Papua)
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