History UsefulNotes / Feminism

28th Aug '17 11:55:48 PM Seeker718
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Most feminists would agree that there are overall differences between sexes. While sentiments like "men on average have two thirds (or 60 to 100%) greater muscular strength in the upper body" can lead to arguments if stated/interpreted wrongly, the majority of feminists would concede that, yes, most men have most women beat in raw physical strength. What ''really'' grinds a feminist's gears are suggestions that:

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Most feminists would agree that there are overall differences between sexes. While sentiments like "men on average have two thirds (or 60 to 100%) greater muscular strength in the upper body" can lead to arguments if stated/interpreted wrongly, the majority of feminists would concede that, yes, most men have most women beat in raw physical strength. (Some argue, though, that women have different kinds of strength, e.g., strong hips and legs, and the ability to endure things like childbirth.) What ''really'' grinds a feminist's gears are suggestions that:
24th Aug '17 10:54:19 AM slvstrChung
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* '''Privilege:''' The advantages (relative to disadvantages) one has when navigating through life. All the things about you that might make your life a little easier than the lives of other people in your social group. When somebody tells you to "check your privilege", they're reminding you to recognize where you're coming from. For example, the popular feminist perception is that if you're straight and white, your experience differs from that of queer women of color; for instance, you can walk down street and kiss the person you love ''and'' not get yelled at to go back to your home country. The hardest part to accept is that privilege is context-sensitive; just because you enjoy certain advantages in one context, that doesn't mean you're not disadvantaged in others (an example is the treatment of Caucasians in South Africa). People who haven't figured this out -- which can range from disenfranchised blue-collar workers from rural America to white feminist women -- often use their contextual disadvantages to claim global disadvantages, or ignore the legitimate suffering of certain people because they are well-off in other ways.
** Privilege is a particularly thorny topic because it proves something most human beings prefer not to admit: ''LifeIsntFair''. (Humans spend a ''great'' deal of time trying to ignore this truth; in fact, scientists have discovered that ignoring it is a necessary component for a healthy, non-clinically-depressed mind.) Additionally, a person who has privilege has had the world be unfair ''[[BornLucky in their favor]]'', something which can be vanishingly rare. Giving up one's privilege is a SelfImposedChallenge -- in a game with an absurd difficulty curve, waaaaay too many players to keep track of, a capricious RandomNumberGod, a crapton of LoopholeAbuse (almost all of which, again, seems to be done by other players) and AllDeathsFinal. While the morality of retaining one's privilege can be debated, even the most justice-obsessed liberals must admit that, in the face of such odds, ''wanting'' to retain one's privilege is perfectly reasonable.

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* '''Privilege:''' The advantages (relative to disadvantages) one has when navigating through life. All the things about you that might make your life a little easier than the lives of other people in your social group. When somebody tells you to "check your privilege", they're reminding you to recognize where you're coming from. For example, the popular feminist perception is that if you're straight and white, your experience differs from that of queer women of color; for instance, you can walk down street and kiss the person you love ''and'' not get yelled at to go back to your home country. The hardest part to accept is that privilege is context-sensitive; just because you enjoy certain advantages in one context, that doesn't mean you're not disadvantaged in others (an example is the treatment of Caucasians in South Africa). People who haven't figured this out -- which can range from disenfranchised blue-collar workers from in rural America to white non-white feminist women -- often use their contextual disadvantages to claim global disadvantages, or ignore the legitimate suffering of certain people because they those people are well-off privileged in other ways.
** Privilege is a particularly thorny topic because it proves something most human beings prefer not to admit: ''LifeIsntFair''. (Humans spend a ''great'' deal of time trying to ignore this truth; LifeIsntFair. (This admission is ''very'' dangerous; in fact, scientists have discovered that ignoring it is a necessary component for a healthy, non-clinically-depressed mind.of ''maintaining'' your SanityMeter.) Additionally, a person who has privilege has had the world be unfair ''[[BornLucky in their favor]]'', something which can be vanishingly rare. Giving up one's privilege is a SelfImposedChallenge -- in a game with an absurd difficulty curve, waaaaay too many players to keep track of, a capricious RandomNumberGod, a crapton of LoopholeAbuse (almost all of which, again, seems to be done perpetrated by other players) players), rampant cheating and corruption, and AllDeathsFinal. While the morality of retaining using one's privilege can be debated, when it's this hard to get ahead, even the most justice-obsessed liberals must admit that, in the face of such odds, ''wanting'' that being ''tempted'' to retain one's privilege use it is perfectly reasonable.
17th Aug '17 5:23:49 PM slvstrChung
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** Privilege is a particularly thorny topic because it proves something most human beings prefer not to admit: ''the world is unfair''. (Humans spend a ''great'' deal of time trying to ignore this truth; in fact, scientists have discovered that ignoring it is a necessary component for a healthy, non-clinically-depressed mind.) Additionally, a person who has privilege has had the world be unfair ''in their favor'', something which can be vanishingly rare. Giving up one's privilege is a SelfImposedChallenge -- in a game with an absurd difficulty curve, waaaaay too many players to keep track of, a capricious RandomNumberGod, a crapton of LoopholeAbuse (almost all of which, again, seems to be done by other players) and AllDeathsFinal. While the morality of retaining one's privilege can be debated, even the most justice-obsessed liberals must admit that ''wanting'' to retain one's privilege is perfectly reasonable in the face of such odds.

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** Privilege is a particularly thorny topic because it proves something most human beings prefer not to admit: ''the world is unfair''.''LifeIsntFair''. (Humans spend a ''great'' deal of time trying to ignore this truth; in fact, scientists have discovered that ignoring it is a necessary component for a healthy, non-clinically-depressed mind.) Additionally, a person who has privilege has had the world be unfair ''in ''[[BornLucky in their favor'', favor]]'', something which can be vanishingly rare. Giving up one's privilege is a SelfImposedChallenge -- in a game with an absurd difficulty curve, waaaaay too many players to keep track of, a capricious RandomNumberGod, a crapton of LoopholeAbuse (almost all of which, again, seems to be done by other players) and AllDeathsFinal. While the morality of retaining one's privilege can be debated, even the most justice-obsessed liberals must admit that that, in the face of such odds, ''wanting'' to retain one's privilege is perfectly reasonable in the face of such odds.reasonable.
17th Aug '17 5:20:46 PM slvstrChung
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* '''Privilege:''' The advantages (relative to disadvantages) one has when navigating through life. All the things about you that might make your life a little easier than the lives of other people in your social group. When somebody tells you to "check your privilege", they're reminding you to recognize where you're coming from. For example, the popular feminist perception is that if you're straight and white, your experience differs from that of queer women of color; for instance, you can walk down street and kiss the person you love ''and'' not get yelled at to go back to your home country. The hardest part to accept is that privilege is context-sensitive; just because you enjoy certain advantages in one context, that doesn't mean you're not disadvantaged in others (an example is the treatment of Caucasians in South Africa). Sadly some feminists who haven't figured this out yet often use their contextual disadvantages to claim global disadvantages or ignore the legitimate suffering of certain people because they are well-off in other places and areas (though this can be said of people from all walks of life regarding views they oppose).

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* '''Privilege:''' The advantages (relative to disadvantages) one has when navigating through life. All the things about you that might make your life a little easier than the lives of other people in your social group. When somebody tells you to "check your privilege", they're reminding you to recognize where you're coming from. For example, the popular feminist perception is that if you're straight and white, your experience differs from that of queer women of color; for instance, you can walk down street and kiss the person you love ''and'' not get yelled at to go back to your home country. The hardest part to accept is that privilege is context-sensitive; just because you enjoy certain advantages in one context, that doesn't mean you're not disadvantaged in others (an example is the treatment of Caucasians in South Africa). Sadly some feminists People who haven't figured this out yet -- which can range from disenfranchised blue-collar workers from rural America to white feminist women -- often use their contextual disadvantages to claim global disadvantages disadvantages, or ignore the legitimate suffering of certain people because they are well-off in other places and areas (though ways.
** Privilege is a particularly thorny topic because it proves something most human beings prefer not to admit: ''the world is unfair''. (Humans spend a ''great'' deal of time trying to ignore
this truth; in fact, scientists have discovered that ignoring it is a necessary component for a healthy, non-clinically-depressed mind.) Additionally, a person who has privilege has had the world be unfair ''in their favor'', something which can be said vanishingly rare. Giving up one's privilege is a SelfImposedChallenge -- in a game with an absurd difficulty curve, waaaaay too many players to keep track of, a capricious RandomNumberGod, a crapton of people from LoopholeAbuse (almost all walks of life regarding views they oppose).which, again, seems to be done by other players) and AllDeathsFinal. While the morality of retaining one's privilege can be debated, even the most justice-obsessed liberals must admit that ''wanting'' to retain one's privilege is perfectly reasonable in the face of such odds.
15th Aug '17 3:11:30 PM Steam_Lord
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!!!If it’s about equality, shouldn’t it be called "equalism"?

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!!!If it’s about equality, shouldn’t it be called "equalism"?"egalitarianism"?



Oh, and "equalism" [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra is already taken]].
15th Aug '17 12:23:11 AM SkidTroper
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Most feminists don't think sexism is primarily something all individual men do to all individual women. The problem as they see it is that ''patriarchy'' is nebulous, widespread and intangible. Just as men can, and do, fight patriarchy, women can, and do, act in ways that support it. The point of feminism (as much as such a vast and highly fragmented movement can be said to ''have'' a point) is to raise women to the level of rights/respect that men have had for centuries. Its goal is to render men and women ''equal'', not to drag men down to subhuman levels as some cosmic act of revenge.

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Most feminists don't think sexism is primarily something all individual men do to all individual women. The problem as they see it is that ''patriarchy'' is nebulous, widespread and intangible. Just as men can, and do, fight patriarchy, women can, and do, act in ways that support it. The point of feminism (as much as such a vast and highly fragmented movement can be said to ''have'' a point) is to raise women to the level of rights/respect that men have had for centuries. Its Ideally, the goal is to render men and women ''equal'', not to drag men down to subhuman levels as some cosmic act of revenge.



There are places and times in which feminists ''can'' come across as a sort of StopHavingFunGuy: you're going about your day, making a joke about some AcceptableTargets, and suddenly a feminist says, "Hey, that's not actually funny."

Also, feminists can come across as angry at everything in general, constantly railing about the things that are wrong with it and acting as though we live in a CrapsackWorld. But, in a lot of ways, they have a point. Think about the furor when Brock Turner was convicted of three counts of felony sexual assault, punishable by up to six years in prison... and sentenced to only three months, because the judge very explicitly wanted Turner to avoid harsh punishment. And ''then'' consider that this was already in an extreme minority; ''[[http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/100000-assaults-1000-rapists-sentenced-shockingly-low-conviction-rates-revealed-8446058.html ninety-seven percent of sexual assaulters]]'' get away without conviction or punishment. Feminists get angry about this because it's an entirely ''fixable'' CrapsackWorld, if people actually cared enough to do it. Add in the many, many other things that feminists worry about (unequal wages, {{Double Standard}}s, gender & sex politics, the plight of women in countries where patriarchy is not balanced by feminism, etc) and it's honestly no wonder that they come across as being pretty irritated.

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There are places and times in which feminists ''can'' come across as a sort of StopHavingFunGuy: you're going about your day, making a joke about some AcceptableTargets, and suddenly a feminist says, "Hey, that's not actually funny."

" Also, feminists can come across as angry at everything in general, constantly railing about the things that are wrong with it and acting as though we live in a CrapsackWorld. But, in a lot CrapsackWorld. While some fit the bill of ways, they a WindmillCrusader, and some champion causes that [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement may or may not]] have a point. Think about arisen due to [[ArtisticLicenseStatistics misreading information]] (such as the furor when Brock Turner was convicted of three counts of felony sexual assault, punishable by up to six years in prison... and sentenced to only three months, because wage gap) there are several good points feminism has raised.

One example is
the judge very explicitly wanted Turner to avoid harsh punishment. And ''then'' consider that this was already in an extreme minority; issue of convictions of sex offenders; ''[[http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/100000-assaults-1000-rapists-sentenced-shockingly-low-conviction-rates-revealed-8446058.html according to this article ninety-seven percent of sexual assaulters]]'' assaulters in the UK]]'' get away without conviction or punishment. punishment. Feminists get angry about this because it's an entirely ''fixable'' CrapsackWorld, if people actually cared enough to do it. it (the aforementioned article stated a key problem was victims not identifying their attackers). Add in the many, many other things fact that feminists worry about (unequal wages, often devote time and energy to pursuing areas of concern (such as the the wage gap, {{Double Standard}}s, gender & sex politics, the plight of women in countries where patriarchy is not balanced by feminism, politics etc) and it's honestly no wonder that they can come across as being pretty irritated.



One area of particular controversy is when feminist blogs and websites have mocking rules against "what about teh menz?" discussions. These rules are typically placed due to hard experience. When feminism became a thing in the 70s, a pro-feminist counterpart movement sprung up called the "Men's liberation movement," which made the (again, not controversial) claim that sexism hurts men in plenty of ways (cited examples include the [[DoubleStandard double standards]] in Divorce Laws, treatment of Domestic Violence and [[MenAreTheExpendableGender women's privileges such as their exemption from the Draft;
[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_rights_movement see here for more information]]. This movement eventually became a mostly academic discourse and/or was partially absorbed by feminism itself, since their goals do not conflict. However, a breakaway group, called the "Men's ''Rights'' Movement", began to campaign actively against feminists, believing that feminism has gone too far, leaving women more privileged than men. While some put forward the contentious but not entirely wrong ideas such as asserting either that men and women to be harmed equally by sexism, and those who view society as promoting female privileges by undermining men. The problems began when some began putting forth the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary reactionary]] view that society should undo some of feminism's achievements (''yes'' controversial; [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment please do not discuss it here]]). For obvious reasons, "Men's Rights Activists" tend to find plenty to disagree with on feminism-centered websites, which has resulted in {{Flame War}}s, {{troll}}ing and worse. This is partially why feminists tend to be cautious about how much of that viewpoint they allow into their discussions.

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One area of particular controversy problem area is when feminist blogs and websites have mocking rules against "what about teh menz?" discussions. These rules are typically placed due to hard experience. When feminism became a thing in the 70s, a pro-feminist counterpart movement sprung up called the "Men's liberation movement," which made the (again, not controversial) claim that sexism also hurts men in plenty of ways (cited examples include the [[DoubleStandard double standards]] in Divorce Laws, treatment of Domestic Violence and [[MenAreTheExpendableGender women's privileges such as their exemption from the Draft;
Draft]];
[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_rights_movement see here for more information]].information]]). This movement eventually became a mostly academic discourse and/or was partially absorbed by feminism itself, since their goals do not conflict. However, Later, a breakaway group, called the "Men's ''Rights'' Movement", began to campaign went a step further and campaigned actively against feminists, believing that feminism has gone too far, leaving women more privileged than men. While some men. Some put forward the contentious but not entirely wrong ideas ideas, such as asserting either that men and women to be are harmed equally by sexism, sexism in different ways, things have gone the other way and those who view now feminists are covertly oppressing men ([[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement not completely true, but not completely wrong either]]) and that society as promoting promotes female privileges by undermining men. at the expense of men. The problems began when some Men's Right's supporters began putting forth to smear all feminists by association with those feminists who are misandrists and gave the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary reactionary]] view that society should undo some of feminism's achievements (''yes'' controversial; [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment please do not discuss it here]]). For obvious reasons, "Men's Rights Activists" tend to find plenty to disagree with on feminism-centered websites, which has resulted in {{Flame War}}s, {{troll}}ing and worse. This is partially why feminists tend to be cautious about how much of that viewpoint they allow into their discussions.



* '''Privilege:''' The advantages (relative to disadvantages) one has when navigating through life. All the things about you that might make your life a little easier than the lives of other people in your social group. When somebody tells you to "check your privilege", they're reminding you to recognize where you're coming from. For example, the popular feminist perception is that if you're straight and white, your experience differs from that of queer women of color; for instance, you can walk down street and kiss the person you love ''and'' not get yelled at to go back to your home country. The hardest part to accept is that privilege is context-sensitive; just because you enjoy certain advantages in one context, that doesn't mean you're not disadvantaged in others (an example is the treatment of Caucasians in South Africa). Sadly some feminists who haven't figured this out yet often use their contextual disadvantages to claim global disadvantages.

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* '''Privilege:''' The advantages (relative to disadvantages) one has when navigating through life. All the things about you that might make your life a little easier than the lives of other people in your social group. When somebody tells you to "check your privilege", they're reminding you to recognize where you're coming from. For example, the popular feminist perception is that if you're straight and white, your experience differs from that of queer women of color; for instance, you can walk down street and kiss the person you love ''and'' not get yelled at to go back to your home country. The hardest part to accept is that privilege is context-sensitive; just because you enjoy certain advantages in one context, that doesn't mean you're not disadvantaged in others (an example is the treatment of Caucasians in South Africa). Sadly some feminists who haven't figured this out yet often use their contextual disadvantages to claim global disadvantages.disadvantages or ignore the legitimate suffering of certain people because they are well-off in other places and areas (though this can be said of people from all walks of life regarding views they oppose).
14th Aug '17 6:42:37 AM SkidTroper
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* '''Objectification:''' Reducing people from "personhood" (a ''sub''ject) to "thinghood" (an ''ob''ject). Ignoring or taking away everything about a person that makes them a person, and seeing/portraying them as just an object. In feminism, this often involves discussions of sexual objectification, where women are denied agency and intention in order to make them into objects for the sexual desires of heterosexual men; which is not the same thing a simply portraying women as sexy, as it's possible to do this without denying them agency. Where the issue of objectifying women to pander to lesbians or bisexual women fits into this is more controversial and contentious.

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* '''Objectification:''' Reducing people from "personhood" (a ''sub''ject) to "thinghood" (an ''ob''ject). Ignoring or taking away everything about a person that makes them a person, and seeing/portraying them as just an object. In feminism, this often involves discussions of sexual objectification, where women are denied agency and intention in order to make them into objects for the sexual desires of heterosexual men; which is not the same thing a simply portraying women as sexy, as it's possible to do this without denying them agency. Where This does carry the issue problem of objectifying discriminating against men, as it has the PlotHole of overlooking objectification of women to pander that caters to lesbians or and bisexual women fits into this is more controversial and contentious.women.
14th Aug '17 6:38:18 AM SkidTroper
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A good comparison to feminism is a major religion like UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}. They've both got one essential message, but there are many divisions and subgroups with different views on how to interpret/act on that message, and some of them don't get along so well. There are literally dozens of different factions within the feminist movement, which split off of each other due to disagreements over everything from abortion rights to the pairing of feminism with racial/gay/whathaveyou rights movements to how big of a problem gender discrimination really is in the first place.

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A good comparison to feminism feminism's hierarchy is a major religion like UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}}. UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} (at least at the human level, since feminism has followers of various religious beliefs). They've both got one essential message, but there are many divisions and subgroups with different views on how to interpret/act on that message, and some of them don't get along so well. There are literally dozens of different factions within the feminist movement, which split off of each other due to disagreements over everything from abortion rights to the pairing of feminism with racial/gay/whathaveyou rights movements to how big of a problem gender discrimination really is in the first place.



The first part of this statement can be answered with an unqualified "No." It's pretty uncontroversial in feminist circles to point out that [[MenAreTheExpendableGender sexism does]] [[BumblingDad hurt]] [[MenCantKeepHouse men]] [[DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale in]] [[MenDontCry plenty]] [[RealMenHateAffection of]] [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale ways]].

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The first part of this statement can be answered with an unqualified "No." It's pretty uncontroversial in feminist circles to point out that [[MenAreTheExpendableGender sexism sexism]] [[AManIsNotAVirgin does]] [[BumblingDad hurt]] [[MenCantKeepHouse men]] [[DoubleStandardRapeMaleOnMale in]] [[MenDontCry plenty]] [[RealMenHateAffection of]] [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale ways]].
14th Aug '17 6:29:51 AM SkidTroper
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One area of particular controversy is when feminist blogs and websites have mocking rules against "what about teh menz?" discussions. These rules are typically placed due to hard experience. When feminism became a thing in the 70s, a pro-feminist counterpart movement sprung up called the "Men's liberation movement," which made the (again, not controversial) claim that sexism hurts men in plenty of ways. This movement eventually became a mostly academic discourse and/or was partially absorbed by feminism itself, since their goals do not conflict. However, a breakaway group, called the "Men's ''Rights'' Movement", began to campaign actively against feminists, believing that feminism has gone too far, leaving women more privileged than men, and putting forth the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary reactionary]] view that society should undo some of feminism's achievements (''yes'' controversial; [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment please do not discuss it here]]). For obvious reasons, "Men's Rights Activists" tend to find plenty to disagree with on feminism-centered websites, which has resulted in {{Flame War}}s, {{troll}}ing and worse. This is partially why feminists tend to be cautious about how much of that viewpoint they allow into their discussions.

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One area of particular controversy is when feminist blogs and websites have mocking rules against "what about teh menz?" discussions. These rules are typically placed due to hard experience. When feminism became a thing in the 70s, a pro-feminist counterpart movement sprung up called the "Men's liberation movement," which made the (again, not controversial) claim that sexism hurts men in plenty of ways.ways (cited examples include the [[DoubleStandard double standards]] in Divorce Laws, treatment of Domestic Violence and [[MenAreTheExpendableGender women's privileges such as their exemption from the Draft;
[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_rights_movement see here for more information]].
This movement eventually became a mostly academic discourse and/or was partially absorbed by feminism itself, since their goals do not conflict. However, a breakaway group, called the "Men's ''Rights'' Movement", began to campaign actively against feminists, believing that feminism has gone too far, leaving women more privileged than men, men. While some put forward the contentious but not entirely wrong ideas such as asserting either that men and women to be harmed equally by sexism, and those who view society as promoting female privileges by undermining men. The problems began when some began putting forth the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary reactionary]] view that society should undo some of feminism's achievements (''yes'' controversial; [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment please do not discuss it here]]). For obvious reasons, "Men's Rights Activists" tend to find plenty to disagree with on feminism-centered websites, which has resulted in {{Flame War}}s, {{troll}}ing and worse. This is partially why feminists tend to be cautious about how much of that viewpoint they allow into their discussions.



Actually, this is a valid concern, and it's part of why the Men's Liberation Movement sprung up in the 70's over legitimate issues such as [[DoubleStandard double standards]] in Divorce Laws, treatment of Domestic Violence and [[MenAreTheExpendableGender women's privileges such as their exemption from the draft]] (Nowadays a very controversial movement because it, and several subfactions, argues the opposite of feminism, asserting either that men and women to be harmed equally by sexism, and those who view society as promoting female privileges by undermining men; [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_rights_movementsee here for more information]])

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Actually, this is a valid concern, and it's part of why the Men's Liberation Movement sprung up in the 70's over legitimate issues such as [[DoubleStandard double standards]] in Divorce Laws, treatment of Domestic Violence and [[MenAreTheExpendableGender women's privileges such as their exemption from the draft]] (Nowadays a very controversial movement because it, and several subfactions, argues the opposite of feminism, asserting either that men and women to be harmed equally by sexism, and those who view society as promoting female privileges by undermining men; [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men%27s_rights_movementsee here for more information]])
70's.



* '''Gender Binary:''' The dichotomy that splits everything (even things that have no basis in sex or gender) into "male" and "female", masculine and feminine, as opposed existing on a continuum with many people grouped ''toward'' the ends. One of the biggest problems feminist see with the gender binary is that it almost always tends to make genders into a hierarchy, where masculinity is given higher status.
* '''Intersectionality:''' Taking into account anything and everything that can marginalize people - not just sex and gender, but also race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, physical ability, class, etc. For example, being a woman of color means you could be subject to both misogyny and racism. Further, a woman of color experiences misogyny differently from a white woman and racism differently from a man of color.
* '''Objectification:''' Reducing people from "personhood" (a ''sub''ject) to "thinghood" (an ''ob''ject). Ignoring or taking away everything about a person that makes them a person, and seeing/portraying them as just an object. In feminism, this often involves discussions of sexual objectification, where women are denied agency and intention in order to make them into objects for the sexual desires of heterosexual men; which is not the same thing a simply portraying women as sexy, as it's possible to do this without denying them agency.

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* '''Gender Binary:''' The dichotomy that splits everything (even things that have no basis in sex or gender) into "male" and "female", masculine and feminine, as opposed existing on a continuum with many people grouped ''toward'' the ends. One of the biggest problems feminist see with issues feminists have raised about the gender binary system is that it almost always tends to make genders into a hierarchy, where masculinity is tends to be given higher status.
* '''Intersectionality:''' Taking into account anything and everything that can marginalize people - not just sex and gender, but also race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, physical ability, class, etc. [[{{Irony}} However, in practice these side issues tend to gets looked at through the lens of gender]]. For example, being a woman of color means you could be subject to both misogyny and racism. Further, a woman of color experiences misogyny differently from a white woman and racism differently from a man of color.
* '''Objectification:''' Reducing people from "personhood" (a ''sub''ject) to "thinghood" (an ''ob''ject). Ignoring or taking away everything about a person that makes them a person, and seeing/portraying them as just an object. In feminism, this often involves discussions of sexual objectification, where women are denied agency and intention in order to make them into objects for the sexual desires of heterosexual men; which is not the same thing a simply portraying women as sexy, as it's possible to do this without denying them agency. Where the issue of objectifying women to pander to lesbians or bisexual women fits into this is more controversial and contentious.



* '''Privilege:''' The advantages (relative to disadvantages) one has when navigating through life. All the things about you that might make your life a little easier than the lives of other people in your social group. When somebody tells you to "check your privilege", they're reminding you to recognize where you're coming from. For example, if you're straight and white, your experience differs from that of queer women of color; for instance, you can walk down street and kiss the person you love ''and'' not get yelled at to go back to your home country. The hardest part to accept is that privilege is context-sensitive; just because you enjoy certain advantages in one context, that doesn't mean you're not disadvantaged in others. (People who haven't figured this out yet often use their contextual disadvantages to claim global disadvantages.)

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* '''Privilege:''' The advantages (relative to disadvantages) one has when navigating through life. All the things about you that might make your life a little easier than the lives of other people in your social group. When somebody tells you to "check your privilege", they're reminding you to recognize where you're coming from. For example, the popular feminist perception is that if you're straight and white, your experience differs from that of queer women of color; for instance, you can walk down street and kiss the person you love ''and'' not get yelled at to go back to your home country. country. The hardest part to accept is that privilege is context-sensitive; just because you enjoy certain advantages in one context, that doesn't mean you're not disadvantaged in others. (People others (an example is the treatment of Caucasians in South Africa). Sadly some feminists who haven't figured this out yet often use their contextual disadvantages to claim global disadvantages.)
14th Aug '17 6:18:53 AM SkidTroper
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The idea that this in turn creates [[DoubleStandard double standards]] that discriminate against and undermine men is controversial, especially since [[HumansAreFlawed women aren't perfect either]]. How feminists fight double standards orginating from the idea of the Patriarchy varies, even from feminist to feminist at times. What's ''not'' controversial is ''acknowledging'' that patriarchy can and does hurt men; this is basically accepted canon within most branches of feminism. Some view women as more oppressed as men, others think that women aren't that much more oppressed but still oppressed a lot, a few even think it's swung the other way with [[PositiveDiscriminaton women being held to unreasonable standards]] and that men are now the more oppressed gender (as can be seen in the controversial idea of the Men's Rights Movement).


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The idea that this in turn creates [[DoubleStandard double standards]] that discriminate against and undermine men is controversial, especially since [[HumansAreFlawed women aren't perfect either]]. How feminists fight double standards orginating from the idea of the Patriarchy varies, even from feminist to feminist at times. What's ''not'' controversial is ''acknowledging'' that patriarchy can and does hurt men; this is basically accepted canon within most branches of feminism. Some view women as more oppressed as men, others think that women aren't that much more oppressed but still oppressed a lot, a few even think it's swung the other way with [[PositiveDiscriminaton [[PositiveDiscrimination women being held to unreasonable standards]] and that men are now the more oppressed gender (as can be seen in the controversial idea of the Men's Rights Movement).

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