Follow TV Tropes

Following

History UsefulNotes / CelticKingdoms

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* ''VideoGame/AgeOfEmpiresII'' has the Celts, depicting medieval Scotland, which are featured in the William Wallace tutorial campaign as the player's civilisation, and appears as the enemy in the Edward Longshanks campaign in the ''Lords of the West'' expansion.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


In practice, however, other than the common root of their languages and a few very occasional aesthetic features like Celtic crosses (such as the one depicted above)there is little in common between these groups. These are two groups of very different nations with their own histories, cultures, and literatures, and lumping them together is a modern practice - starting in the nineteenth century with the foundation of academic disciplines like linguistics and ethnography - rather than one which has a real historical basis. Welsh texts before the nineteenth century, for example, do not express any sense of common "Celticness" with the Irish, and vice-versa; and when it comes to what's frequently referred to as Myth/CelticMythology we're really talking about two largely unrelated traditions: that of Old Irish, and that of old Welsh, the latter including the ''Literature/{{Mabinogion}}'', from which Myth/ArthurianLegend originated.

to:

In practice, however, other than the common root of their languages and a few very occasional aesthetic features like Celtic crosses (such as the one depicted above)there above) there is little in common between these groups. These are two groups of very different nations with their own histories, cultures, and literatures, and lumping them together is a modern practice - starting in the nineteenth century with the foundation of academic disciplines like linguistics and ethnography - rather than one which has a real historical basis. Welsh texts before the nineteenth century, for example, do not express any sense of common "Celticness" with the Irish, and vice-versa; and when it comes to what's frequently referred to as Myth/CelticMythology we're really talking about two largely unrelated traditions: that of Old Irish, and that of old Welsh, the latter including the ''Literature/{{Mabinogion}}'', from which Myth/ArthurianLegend originated.



TimeMarchesOn however, and after two hundred years of being treated as if it did exist, the concept of a common Celtic-ness binding these nations together has taken on a mind of its own, with concepts like Celtic Art, Celtic Music etc.; even if most of its manifestations in practice draw only on Irish traditions. This is likely due firstly to the prominence of Irishness in the popular cosciousness of both England and the US, and secondly due to the LanguageBarrier meaning Welsh (which has retained its langauge better than the others) is less familiar and accessible to English-speaking culture. All this has led to the common misconception that Celtic, Gaelic and Irish all mean the same thing, as seen with e.g. American sports teams using the terms this way, as well as things like the Irish bands Music/CelticThunder and Music/CelticWoman.

to:

TimeMarchesOn however, and after two hundred years of being treated as if it did exist, the concept of a common Celtic-ness binding these nations together has taken on a mind of its own, with concepts like Celtic Art, Celtic Music etc.; even if most of its manifestations in practice draw only on Irish traditions. This is likely due firstly to the prominence of Irishness in the popular cosciousness consciousness of both England and the US, and secondly due to the LanguageBarrier meaning Welsh (which has retained its langauge language better than the others) is less familiar and accessible to English-speaking culture. All this has led to the common misconception that Celtic, Gaelic and Irish all mean the same thing, as seen with e.g. American sports teams using the terms this way, as well as things like the Irish bands Music/CelticThunder and Music/CelticWoman.

Top