History UsefulNotes / BerlinWall

20th Sep '16 8:50:55 AM LondonKdS
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Finally, the Wall isn't just still in human heads - a biological research project in the early 21st century revealed that the boundaries of the territories of deer herds in the Harz Mountains still followed the line of the "inner German border", which passed through the region, even though no physical trace of the border remained.
17th Sep '16 4:12:14 AM SilentHunterUK
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* Friedrichstraße station, which also served as the border crossing point for long-distance trains crossing from West Berlin and by extension the West. This facility became a positive maze of corridors as people navigated their way between the areas for 'western trains' or transited to the other side for East Berlin or trains further on. The border crossing became known as the Tränenpalast or "Palace of Tears" as it was where Western visitors would say goodbye to those not permitted to cross.
** The 'Western' side of the platforms also held an Intershop - the East German duty free shops designed to part travellers (and East Germans after 1974 when they were allowed to possess foreign currency) from their hard currency as the East German mark was not accepted, selling higher quality goods than available elsewhere. The Intershop here allowed West Berliners to buy these goods i.e. alcohol and tobacco without going through the border and hop straight back on a train... although West German customs would sometimes conduct checks on the other side.


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There were also a number of 'spy doors' that the East German intelligence agencies used to sneak operatives into and out of West Berlin - such as at Friedrichstraße station, where the warren of corridors made it easy to get someone around the border checkpoints and onto the platforms for West Berlin trains.
7th Sep '16 1:12:25 AM Morgenthaler
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* Going over it. One escape involving a hot air balloon was successful, yet very dangerous. Another attempt featuring a home-made motorized aircraft (using among others a butchered motorcycle) failed; TheStasi got them first. Another time, a brother of three escaped via a home-made zip-line, and later picked up his brothers with a private plane with fake Soviet colorings from an inner-Berlin ''city park''.

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* Going over it. One escape involving a hot air balloon was successful, yet very dangerous. Another attempt featuring a home-made motorized aircraft (using among others a butchered motorcycle) failed; TheStasi UsefulNotes/TheStasi got them first. Another time, a brother of three escaped via a home-made zip-line, and later picked up his brothers with a private plane with fake Soviet colorings from an inner-Berlin ''city park''.
13th Aug '16 3:32:00 AM Random888
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* The otherwise forgettable 1968 comedy ''The Wicked Dreams of Paula Schultz'' features a unique method of defection, with the title character, an East German Olympian, pole-vaulting over the Berlin Wall. In the process, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvj7OGphOv4 she loses her clothes on the Wall's barbed wire]]. Yes, it's that kind of movie.

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* The otherwise forgettable 1968 comedy ''The Wicked Dreams of Paula Schultz'' features a unique method of defection, with the title character, an East German Olympian, pole-vaulting over the Berlin Wall.Wall (the existence of the death strip is ignored). In the process, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvj7OGphOv4 she loses her clothes on the Wall's barbed wire]]. Yes, it's that kind of movie.
12th Aug '16 4:40:03 AM Random888
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* The 1968 comedy ''The Wicked Dreams of Paula Schultz'' features the title character, an East German Olympian, pole-vaulting over the Berlin Wall. In the process, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvj7OGphOv4 she loses her clothes on the Wall's barbed wire]]. Yes, it's that kind of movie.

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* The otherwise forgettable 1968 comedy ''The Wicked Dreams of Paula Schultz'' features a unique method of defection, with the title character, an East German Olympian, pole-vaulting over the Berlin Wall. In the process, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvj7OGphOv4 she loses her clothes on the Wall's barbed wire]]. Yes, it's that kind of movie.
12th Aug '16 4:38:05 AM Random888
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* The 1968 comedy ''The Wicked Dreams of Paula Schultz'' features the title character, an East German Olympian, pole-vaulting over the Berlin Wall. In the process, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvj7OGphOv4 she loses her clothes on the Wall's barbed wire]]. Yes, it's that kind of movie.



* A History Channel special once covered the history of the wall and some of the more impressive escape attempts. Among them was a guy who took advantage of the laws in the GDR to drive an armored vehicle (military vehicles were given right of way on all east german streets) to drive up to the border. Rather than risk the guards at the gates he rammed the wall counting on the vehicles massive weight to make it through.

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* A History Channel special once covered the history of the wall and some of the more impressive escape attempts. Among them was a guy who took advantage of the laws in the GDR to drive an armored vehicle (military vehicles were given right of way on all east german East German streets) to drive up to the border. Rather than risk the guards at the gates he rammed the wall counting on the vehicles massive weight to make it through.
12th Aug '16 3:43:17 AM Random888
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* The Wall plays a major role in ''Film/BridgeOfSpies'', which is about the arrangement of the first prisoner exchange between West and East during the Cold War. The day of the Wall's first construction is depicted (ahistorically shown as being masonry from the start) and an American student is taken prisoner by the East Germans after foolishly trying to rescue his girlfriend. Later the American protagonist makes several crossings of the Wall to negotiate with Soviets and East Germans in East Berlin, and witnesses two people being shot by border guards while trying to cross illegally. The film ends with the actual exchange at the Glienecke Bridge.

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* The Wall plays a major role in ''Film/BridgeOfSpies'', which is about the arrangement of the first prisoner exchange between West and East during the Cold War. The day of the Wall's first construction is depicted (ahistorically shown as being masonry from the start) and an American student is taken prisoner by the East Germans after foolishly trying to rescue his girlfriend. Later the American protagonist makes several crossings of the Wall to negotiate with Soviets and East Germans in East Berlin, and witnesses two people being shot by border guards while trying to cross illegally. The film ends with the actual exchange at the Glienecke Glienicke Bridge.
19th Jun '16 3:24:30 PM Jhonny
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Since the wall collapsed, Germany has been having a problem with "The Wall in people's heads" (''die Mauer im Kopf''). This invisible wall consists in the whole Ossi-Wessi thing (a difference of attitudes), a disparity in living conditions (Ossis still have the economic short end of the stick, although things are rather better than they were twenty years ago), and politics in the GDR has developed a tendency towards extremes (the far-right has gotten itself a base...as has the far left, in the form of the Left Party, which ironically is the direct descendant of the Socialist Unity Party that ran EastGermany...). On the other hand, people born since about 1985 (i.e. those too young to remember the wall, e.g. most German Tropers) tend to regard all of this as something of a non-issue (except for how the East is still poorer than the West, but that's little different from the tensions between people from the [[OopNorth North of England]] and the South).

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Since the wall collapsed, Germany has been having a problem with "The Wall in people's heads" (''die Mauer im Kopf''). This invisible wall consists in the whole Ossi-Wessi thing (a difference of attitudes), a disparity in living conditions (Ossis still have the economic short end of the stick, although things are rather better than they were twenty years ago), and politics in the GDR has developed a tendency towards extremes (the far-right has gotten itself a base...as has the far left, in the form of the Left Party, which ironically is the direct descendant of the Socialist Unity Party that ran EastGermany...). On the other hand, people born since about 1985 (i.e. those too young to remember the wall, e.g. most German Tropers) tend to regard all of this as something of a non-issue (except for how the East is still poorer than the West, but that's little different from the tensions between people from the [[OopNorth North of England]] and the South).
South). Truth be told, before the wall came up differences in Germany were bigger between North and South than East and West and as the wall is now close to being "fallen" longer than it stood ([[ShorterThanTheyThink just twenty eight years]]), this may well reassert itself in due time.
19th Jun '16 3:18:58 PM Jhonny
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* Going over it. One escape involving a hot air balloon was successful, yet very dangerous. Another attempt featuring a home-made motorized aircraft (using i.e. a butchered motorcycle) failed; the [[StateSec StaSi]] got them first. Another time, a brother of three escaped via a home-made zip-line, and later picked up his brothers with a private plane with fake Soviet colorings from an inner-Berlin ''city park''.

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* Going over it. One escape involving a hot air balloon was successful, yet very dangerous. Another attempt featuring a home-made motorized aircraft (using i.e. among others a butchered motorcycle) failed; the [[StateSec StaSi]] TheStasi got them first. Another time, a brother of three escaped via a home-made zip-line, and later picked up his brothers with a private plane with fake Soviet colorings from an inner-Berlin ''city park''.
19th Jun '16 3:17:33 PM Jhonny
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* [[UsefulNotes/BerlinUAndSBahn 2 U-Bahn lines and a S-bahn line]] operated by the West Berlin transit authority ran through East Berlin territory, who paid DM 20 million a year for this privilege. The stations in GDR territory were mostly (except for Friedrichstraße) closed to passengers, becoming 'ghost stations', fairly dimly lit, sealed off at street level and patrolled by the Border Troops. Until they were reopened in 1989/1990, the stations remained pretty much unchanged, down to the adverts on the walls.

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* [[UsefulNotes/BerlinUAndSBahn 2 U-Bahn lines and a S-bahn line]] operated by the West Berlin transit authority (in the case of the U-Bahn) ran through East Berlin territory, who paid DM 20 million a year for this privilege. The stations in GDR territory were mostly (except for Friedrichstraße) closed to passengers, becoming 'ghost stations', fairly dimly lit, sealed off at street level and patrolled by the Border Troops. Until they were reopened in 1989/1990, the stations remained pretty much unchanged, down to the adverts on the walls.
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