History UsefulNotes / Armenia

28th Dec '17 12:20:24 PM Surenity
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* GratuitousRussian: Being part of the Soviet Union had the somewhat unfortunate effect of mixing the Eastern Armenian dialect with so many Russian words that an Armenian speaker and a Russian speaker could probably still understand a lot of what the other is saying. Many Armenians from the Republic of Armenia won't even realize they're using Russian words until they encounter a Western Armenian speaker from the diaspora who points it out to them.

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* GratuitousRussian: Being part of the Soviet Union had the somewhat unfortunate effect of mixing the Eastern Armenian dialect with so many Russian words that an Armenian speaker and a Russian speaker could probably still understand a lot of what the other is saying.saying (and it would be rare for an Armenian not to speak Russian as well). Many Armenians from the Republic of Armenia won't even realize they're using Russian words until they encounter a Western Armenian speaker from the diaspora who points it out to them.
5th Dec '17 11:43:26 PM KYCubbie
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* Cherylinn Sarkisian alias "Cher", daughter of an Armenian refugee, John Sarkisian.

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* Cherylinn Cherilyn Sarkisian alias "Cher", Music/{{Cher}}, daughter of an Armenian refugee, John Sarkisian.



* Robert Kardashian, [[ChewbaccaDefense Johnnie Cochran]]'s no. 2 in the OJSimpson trial, more famous for his {{socialite}} daughters [[Creator/KimKardashian Kim]], Khloé, and Kourtney.

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* Robert Kardashian, [[ChewbaccaDefense Johnnie Cochran]]'s no. 2 in the OJSimpson trial, [[Film/OJMadeInAmerica O. J. Simpson trial]], more famous for his {{socialite}} daughters [[Creator/KimKardashian Kim]], [[Series/KeepingUpWithTheKardashians daughters]] Creator/{{Kim|Kardashian}}, Khloé, and Kourtney.



* Charles Aznavour, a singer, actor and songwriter of the French-Armenian diaspora. (And yes, his real family name is "Aznavourian").

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* Charles Aznavour, a singer, actor and songwriter of the French-Armenian diaspora. (And yes, his real family name is "Aznavourian")."Aznavourian".)



* Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Armenia's biggest football star these days; captain and all-time leading goal scorer for the national team, as well as starring for [[UsefulNotes/EnglishPremierLeague Manchester United]].




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* Jerry Tarkanian, Hall of Fame college basketball coach most famous for his tenure at [[UsefulNotes/LasVegas UNLV]]. Notably the first non-entertainer to be honored after his death by having the lights of the Las Vegas Strip dimmed.



** There's also another bad blood with Turkey due to the Armenian Genocide, which the latter's government blatantly refuses to recognize to this day.
** Not to mention Pakistan, which [[DisproportionateRetribution flat-out refuses to recognize Armenia as a country]] in support of Azerbaijan. ''Even when Azerbaijan itself actually recognizes Armenia''.

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** There's also another bad blood with Turkey due to the Armenian Genocide, which the latter's government blatantly refuses to recognize to this day.
** Not to mention Pakistan, which [[DisproportionateRetribution flat-out refuses to recognize Armenia as a country]] in support of Azerbaijan. ''Even when Azerbaijan itself actually recognizes Armenia''.Armenia.''
11th Oct '17 12:54:44 AM FireCrawler2002
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Tucked away in the Caucasus mountains, in that little clutch of former Soviet Republics where Russia meets Turkey, is Armenia ('''Armenian:''' Հայաստան Hayastan), officially known as the Republic of Armenia ('''Armenian:''' Հայաստանի Հանրապետություն Hayastani Hanrapetutyun). Though the current republic formed after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, it's not a new country by any means - the first Kingdom of Armenia goes back to 331 BC, and was the first country to officially adopt Christianity, in 301 AD. It also used to be ''much'' bigger than it is now, most of its former historical lands now being part of Turkey (this includes Mt. Ararat, which while considered a national symbol of Armenia and actually visible from the capital Yerevan, is rather awkwardly located over the border in Turkey).

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Tucked away in the Caucasus mountains, in that little clutch of former Soviet Republics where Russia meets Turkey, is Armenia ('''Armenian:''' Հայաստան Hayastan), officially known as the Republic of Armenia ('''Armenian:''' Հայաստանի Հանրապետություն Hayastani Hanrapetutyun).Hanrapetutyun), a Eastern European/Western Asian country. Though the current republic formed after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, it's not a new country by any means - the first Kingdom of Armenia goes back to 331 BC, and was the first country to officially adopt Christianity, in 301 AD. It also used to be ''much'' bigger than it is now, most of its former historical lands now being part of Turkey (this includes Mt. Ararat, which while considered a national symbol of Armenia and actually visible from the capital Yerevan, is rather awkwardly located over the border in Turkey).
1st Jul '17 1:41:06 AM Jormungar
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Tucked away in the Caucasus mountains, in that little clutch of former Soviet Republics where Russia meets Turkey, is Armenia ('''Armenian:''' Հայաստան Hayastan), officially known as the Republic of Armenia ('''Armenian:''' Հայաստանի Հանրապետություն Hayastani Hanrapetutyun). Though the current republic formed after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, it's not a new country by any means - the first Kingdom of Armenia goes back to 331 BC, and was the first country to officially adopt Christianity, in 301 AD. It also used to be ''much'' bigger than it is now, most of its former historical lands now being part of Turkey (this includes Mt. Ararat, which is considered a national symbol for the country. Ouch...).

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Tucked away in the Caucasus mountains, in that little clutch of former Soviet Republics where Russia meets Turkey, is Armenia ('''Armenian:''' Հայաստան Hayastan), officially known as the Republic of Armenia ('''Armenian:''' Հայաստանի Հանրապետություն Hayastani Hanrapetutyun). Though the current republic formed after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, it's not a new country by any means - the first Kingdom of Armenia goes back to 331 BC, and was the first country to officially adopt Christianity, in 301 AD. It also used to be ''much'' bigger than it is now, most of its former historical lands now being part of Turkey (this includes Mt. Ararat, which is while considered a national symbol for of Armenia and actually visible from the country. Ouch...).
capital Yerevan, is rather awkwardly located over the border in Turkey).
22nd Jun '17 7:31:01 AM theNerdytimes
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Within Armenia, Armenians make up an overwhelming majority of the population. The biggest minority group in the country is the Yazidis, a nomadic people with a unique religion, and similarly to the Armenians themselves, have often been targets of discrimination in the Middle East. In 2014 Armenians stood in solidarity with Yazidis in condemning the Islamic State's attempted genocide against the Yazidis in Iraq. But the demographics in Armenia are in continual flux. While emigration is still a problem for the country and has been since independence, since the start of Syria's Civil War, members of Syria's very old Armenian diaspora community have been fleeing to Armenia in droves.

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Within Armenia, [[CaptainObvious Armenians make up an overwhelming majority of the population.population]]. The biggest minority group in the country is the Yazidis, a nomadic people with a unique religion, and similarly to the Armenians themselves, have often been targets of discrimination in the Middle East. In 2014 Armenians stood in solidarity with Yazidis in condemning the Islamic State's attempted genocide against the Yazidis in Iraq. But the demographics in Armenia are in continual flux. While emigration is still a problem for the country and has been since independence, since the start of Syria's Civil War, members of Syria's very old Armenian diaspora community have been fleeing to Armenia in droves.
10th Jun '17 3:13:15 PM Occidensill
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* SinsOfOurFathers: Armenia hates Turkey because its government refuses to recognize the Armenian Genocide, even if the one who did that is Turkey's predecessor, the Ottoman Empire, and all of its perpetrators had died a long time ago. In the Turkish part, it's less of atoning for your crimes and more akin to MyCountryRightOrWrong.

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* SinsOfOurFathers: Armenia hates Turkey Armenian-Turkish relations are very hostile in large part because its every Turkish government refuses has refused to recognize the Armenian Genocide, even if the one who did that is Genocide committed by Turkey's predecessor, the Ottoman Empire, during World War 1. Armenia is hardly in a position to press the issue militarily or economically, and all of its perpetrators had died a long time ago. In the Turkish part, it's less position of atoning for your crimes and more akin many Turks boil down to MyCountryRightOrWrong.either MyCountryRightOrWrong or believing that Armenia is invoking this trope.
6th Jun '17 9:15:31 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* SinsOfOurFathers: Armenia hates Turkey because its government refuses to recognize the Armenian Genocide, even if the one who did that is Turkey's predecessor, the Ottoman Empire, and all of its perpetrators had died a long time ago. In the Turkish part, it's less of atoning for your crimes and more akin to [[BeYourself embracing your heritage]], no matter how horrible it is.

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* SinsOfOurFathers: Armenia hates Turkey because its government refuses to recognize the Armenian Genocide, even if the one who did that is Turkey's predecessor, the Ottoman Empire, and all of its perpetrators had died a long time ago. In the Turkish part, it's less of atoning for your crimes and more akin to [[BeYourself embracing your heritage]], no matter how horrible it is.MyCountryRightOrWrong.
8th Mar '17 11:15:54 PM Occidensill
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* ButtMonkey: My, there's a reason that not a few people has compared the Armenians' fate throughout history as being similar to the Jews, which should tell you what you need to now about its history. Down to the genocide part.

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* ButtMonkey: My, there's There's a reason that not a few people has have compared the Armenians' fate throughout history as being similar to the Jews, which should tell you what you need to now know about its history. Down history, down to the genocide part.
1st Jan '17 9:40:19 PM Surenity
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** The first president of the modern republic, Levon Der Petrosyan, was forced to resign in 1998 after advocating a land-for-peace settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, which goes to show just how unpopular the idea was and still is in Armenia.
31st Dec '16 6:47:22 PM nombretomado
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More Armenians live outside Armenia than inside - latest estimates are that, of 9 million Armenians worldwide, 3 million live in Armenia and the rest are scattered around the world, mainly in Russia (1 to 2 million), the US (0.5 - 1 million) and France (300 to 500 thousand), whose large Armenian population means that France often gives Armenia high votes in the EurovisionSongContest, and is one of the few countries in Europe that will stick up for Armenia on issues like genocide recognition and Karabakh. Surprisingly there are still Armenians in Turkey, mostly situated in Istanbul. Official estimates of the population are between 40 to 70 thousand. However - those are just the ones who admit to being Armenian; some experts guess there may be several million "crypto-Armenians" in Turkey who've been Islamized and either don't know about their Armenian ancestry or are keeping it secret. There is also the matter of the Hemshin peoples, an ethnic group originating from Islamized Armenians from the early Medieval period which still resides in northern Turkey, and has been in recent years less likely to hide their roots.

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More Armenians live outside Armenia than inside - latest estimates are that, of 9 million Armenians worldwide, 3 million live in Armenia and the rest are scattered around the world, mainly in Russia (1 to 2 million), the US (0.5 - 1 million) and France (300 to 500 thousand), whose large Armenian population means that France often gives Armenia high votes in the EurovisionSongContest, Series/EurovisionSongContest, and is one of the few countries in Europe that will stick up for Armenia on issues like genocide recognition and Karabakh. Surprisingly there are still Armenians in Turkey, mostly situated in Istanbul. Official estimates of the population are between 40 to 70 thousand. However - those are just the ones who admit to being Armenian; some experts guess there may be several million "crypto-Armenians" in Turkey who've been Islamized and either don't know about their Armenian ancestry or are keeping it secret. There is also the matter of the Hemshin peoples, an ethnic group originating from Islamized Armenians from the early Medieval period which still resides in northern Turkey, and has been in recent years less likely to hide their roots.



Armenia sits on the Europe/Asia boundary, but culturally it's considered European (being the first officially Christian country helped), plays its sport in European federations and usually competes in the EurovisionSongContest as mentioned. Armenia's loyalties to Europe came into some question in September 2013 however, when Armenia opted to join Russia's new Customs Union over a free-trade deal with UsefulNotes/TheEuropeanUnion, sparking a rivalry between the two organizations. Seeing as how Russia is a much closer and more essential ally to Armenia than the EU is, this decision went over a lot better in Armenia than it later would in Ukraine, though there were minor protests. It is still hoped by many EU members that Armenia can still make some kind of trading deal with the EU while also being part of the Customs Union, in light of it's rather unique geopolitical situation, but Russia likes to keep Armenia on a short leash, like the rest of the former Soviet states, so it remains to be seen. In fact, looking at the bigger picture, the closed border between Turkey and Armenia serves not just as a separation between Turks and Armenians, but as a boundary between NATO and Russia-aligned countries, the last modern vestige of the UsefulNotes/IronCurtain; one reason Russia sees Armenia as very valuable. Tensions late in 2015 between Russia and Turkey relating to the Syrian Civil War have led to this border possibly becoming a hot spot in the near future, and is heavily fortified by the Russians.

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Armenia sits on the Europe/Asia boundary, but culturally it's considered European (being the first officially Christian country helped), plays its sport in European federations and usually competes in the EurovisionSongContest Series/EurovisionSongContest as mentioned. Armenia's loyalties to Europe came into some question in September 2013 however, when Armenia opted to join Russia's new Customs Union over a free-trade deal with UsefulNotes/TheEuropeanUnion, sparking a rivalry between the two organizations. Seeing as how Russia is a much closer and more essential ally to Armenia than the EU is, this decision went over a lot better in Armenia than it later would in Ukraine, though there were minor protests. It is still hoped by many EU members that Armenia can still make some kind of trading deal with the EU while also being part of the Customs Union, in light of it's rather unique geopolitical situation, but Russia likes to keep Armenia on a short leash, like the rest of the former Soviet states, so it remains to be seen. In fact, looking at the bigger picture, the closed border between Turkey and Armenia serves not just as a separation between Turks and Armenians, but as a boundary between NATO and Russia-aligned countries, the last modern vestige of the UsefulNotes/IronCurtain; one reason Russia sees Armenia as very valuable. Tensions late in 2015 between Russia and Turkey relating to the Syrian Civil War have led to this border possibly becoming a hot spot in the near future, and is heavily fortified by the Russians.
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