History UsefulNotes / Armenia

24th Jan '16 6:01:50 PM Surenity
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Armenia sits on the Europe/Asia boundary, but culturally it's considered European (being the first officially Christian country helped), plays its sport in European federations and usually competes in the EurovisionSongContest as mentioned. Armenia's loyalties to Europe came into some question in September 2013 however, when Armenia opted to join Russia's new Customs Union over a free-trade deal with UsefulNotes/TheEuropeanUnion, sparking a rivalry between the two organizations. Seeing as how Russia is a much closer and more essential ally to Armenia than the EU is, this decision went over a lot better in Armenia than it later would in Ukraine, though there were minor protests. It is still hoped by many EU members that Armenia can still make some kind of trading deal with the EU while also being part of the Customs Union, in light of it's rather unique geopolitical situation, but Russia likes to keep Armenia on a short leash, like the rest of the former Soviet states, so it remains to be seen. In fact, looking at the bigger picture, the closed border between Turkey and Armenia serves not just as a separation between Turks and Armenians, but as a boundary between NATO and Russia-aligned countries, the last modern vestige of the UsefulNotes/IronCurtain; one reason Russia sees Armenia as very valuable.
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Armenia sits on the Europe/Asia boundary, but culturally it's considered European (being the first officially Christian country helped), plays its sport in European federations and usually competes in the EurovisionSongContest as mentioned. Armenia's loyalties to Europe came into some question in September 2013 however, when Armenia opted to join Russia's new Customs Union over a free-trade deal with UsefulNotes/TheEuropeanUnion, sparking a rivalry between the two organizations. Seeing as how Russia is a much closer and more essential ally to Armenia than the EU is, this decision went over a lot better in Armenia than it later would in Ukraine, though there were minor protests. It is still hoped by many EU members that Armenia can still make some kind of trading deal with the EU while also being part of the Customs Union, in light of it's rather unique geopolitical situation, but Russia likes to keep Armenia on a short leash, like the rest of the former Soviet states, so it remains to be seen. In fact, looking at the bigger picture, the closed border between Turkey and Armenia serves not just as a separation between Turks and Armenians, but as a boundary between NATO and Russia-aligned countries, the last modern vestige of the UsefulNotes/IronCurtain; one reason Russia sees Armenia as very valuable. valuable. Tensions late in 2015 between Russia and Turkey relating to the Syrian Civil War have led to this border possibly becoming a hot spot in the near future, and is heavily fortified by the Russians.
24th Jan '16 12:57:11 PM Morgenthaler
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After the initial celebrations when the country became independent, Armenia was essentially in shambles, faced with war, economic collapse, an energy shortage, and it still needed to clean up after the 1988 earthquake. Locals will recall the early 1990's as being a bleak and grim time where citizens of Yerevan were only allotted one hour of electricity per day, and in winter had to burn furniture, books and tree branches to stay warm. People began emigrating from the country in large numbers. Amazingly, Armenia eventually picked itself up and persevered; currently this is the longest Armenia has ever been independent since the Bagratuni Kingdom fell in 1045. Modern Armenia still has poor relations with Turkey, and also with its neighbor, Azerbaijan, over the region of UsefulNotes/NagornoKarabakh, nominally an autonomous Arminopohone part of the Azerbaijani SSR [[note]]ItsALongStory, but the gist of it is: Stalin's DivideAndConquer tactics (minus the usual infighting component--dramatic ethnic violence didn't rise until decades after Stalin's death) basically carved up the Caucasus and placed lots of ethnic groups that didn't like each other in the same administrative area, on basis of ancient communities that delved deeply into each other territories, in order to justify Soviet presence in the region. Nagorno-Karabakh, being a traditionally Armenian area, was made an autonomous oblast within Soviet Azerbaijan, a move that kept conflict at a minimum for decades while the Soviets kept forces there, and has also been suggested as meant to placate Turkey. What happened when the USSR collapsed and there was suddenly no force to stop open conflict should be easy to guess.[[/note]], but which the region's native Armenians, [[ArmosWithArmor with help from the country itself]], freed after a war between 1992-1994. It's now declared itself an independent country known as the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh (or Artsakh), which no one recognizes - no, not even Armenia, because the situation's basically been frozen ever since the 1994 ceasefire and [[StatusQuoIsGod understandably, the Armenian government is not eager to restart armed conflict]], though the Armenian president has gone on the record stating Armenia would recognize it if another war broke out. Azerbaijan, on the other hand, hasn't been quite as passive, and violates the ceasefire almost daily. The country is only stopped from unleashing a full-on war by international pressure, and the fact that it fared poorly last time. It would also mean firing on Russian Peacekeepers stationed in the area, which didn't work great for the last country that did that.[[note]]Georgia in 2008[[/note]].
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After the initial celebrations when the country became independent, Armenia was essentially in shambles, faced with war, economic collapse, an energy shortage, and it still needed to clean up after the 1988 earthquake. Locals will recall the early 1990's as being a bleak and grim time where citizens of Yerevan were only allotted one hour of electricity per day, and in winter had to burn furniture, books and tree branches to stay warm. People began emigrating from the country in large numbers. Amazingly, Armenia eventually picked itself up and persevered; currently this is the longest Armenia has ever been independent since the Bagratuni Kingdom fell in 1045. Modern Armenia still has poor relations with Turkey, and also with its neighbor, Azerbaijan, over the region of UsefulNotes/NagornoKarabakh, nominally an autonomous Arminopohone part of the Azerbaijani SSR [[note]]ItsALongStory, but the gist of it is: Stalin's DivideAndConquer tactics (minus the usual infighting component--dramatic ethnic violence didn't rise until decades after Stalin's death) basically carved up the Caucasus and placed lots of ethnic groups that didn't like each other in the same administrative area, on basis of ancient communities that delved deeply into each other territories, in order to justify Soviet presence in the region. Nagorno-Karabakh, being a traditionally Armenian area, was made an autonomous oblast within Soviet Azerbaijan, a move that kept conflict at a minimum for decades while the Soviets kept forces there, and has also been suggested as meant to placate Turkey. What happened when the USSR collapsed and there was suddenly no force to stop open conflict should be easy to guess.[[/note]], but which the region's native Armenians, [[ArmosWithArmor [[UsefulNotes/ArmosWithArmor with help from the country itself]], freed after a war between 1992-1994. It's now declared itself an independent country known as the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh (or Artsakh), which no one recognizes - no, not even Armenia, because the situation's basically been frozen ever since the 1994 ceasefire and [[StatusQuoIsGod understandably, the Armenian government is not eager to restart armed conflict]], though the Armenian president has gone on the record stating Armenia would recognize it if another war broke out. Azerbaijan, on the other hand, hasn't been quite as passive, and violates the ceasefire almost daily. The country is only stopped from unleashing a full-on war by international pressure, and the fact that it fared poorly last time. It would also mean firing on Russian Peacekeepers stationed in the area, which didn't work great for the last country that did that.[[note]]Georgia in 2008[[/note]].
15th Jan '16 1:14:11 AM Dimas28
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* OlderThanTheyThink: The Armenian language has a ''huge'' amount of Persian/Persian-like vocabulary. Those aren't modern borrowings; it dated back to hundreds–no, ''thousands'' of years ago, back when Armenia was a part of the Achaemenids and Sassanids, and probably even older than that. They are so long ingrained that most Armenians don't see them as foreign borrowings anymore (unlike Russian), and this fact is actually the reason why for so many years linguists classified the language as Iranian until they realize just how even more different Armenian is. It's almost the same deal with the Ossetians of Russia, except that their language ''is'' Iranian.
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* OlderThanTheyThink: The Armenian language has a ''huge'' amount of Persian/Persian-like vocabulary. Those aren't modern borrowings; it most of them dated back to hundreds–no, ''thousands'' of years ago, back when Armenia was a part of the Achaemenids and Sassanids, and probably even older than that. They are so long ingrained that most Armenians don't see them as foreign borrowings anymore (unlike Russian), and this fact is actually the reason why for so many years linguists classified the language as Iranian until they realize realized just how even more different Armenian is. It's almost the same deal with the Ossetians of Russia, except that their language ''is'' Iranian.
15th Jan '16 1:05:37 AM Dimas28
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* OlderThanTheyThink: The Armenian language has a ''huge'' amount of Persian/Persian-like vocabulary. Those aren't modern borrowings; it dated back to hundreds–no, ''thousands'' of years ago, back when Armenia was a part of the Achaemenids and Sassanids, and probably even older than that. They are so long ingrained that most Armenians don't see them as foreign borrowings anymore (unlike Russian), and this fact is actually the reason why for so many years linguists classified the language as Iranian until they realize just how even more different Armenian is. It's almost the same deal with the Ossetians of Russia, except that their language ''is'' Iranian. ** In general, Armenian-Iranian relations are this. Both regions/countries have been at each other cultural spheres for god knows how long. Case in point: Armenians call their homeland ''Hayastan'' – -stan being the ubiquitous Persian suffix to denote a country.
13th Nov '15 8:17:28 AM SomeoneElse17
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* Frankie Kazarian, a professional wrestler currently at Wrestling/{{TNA}}.
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* Frankie Kazarian, Wrestling/FrankieKazarian, a professional wrestler currently at Wrestling/RingOfHonor, well-known for his years with Wrestling/{{TNA}}.
2nd Nov '15 3:11:07 PM Josef5678
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Armenia sits on the Europe/Asia boundary, but culturally it's considered European (being the first officially Christian country helped), plays its sport in European federations and usually competes in the EurovisionSongContest as mentioned. Armenia's loyalties to Europe came into some question in September 2013 however, when Armenia opted to join Russia's new Customs Union over a free-trade deal with UsefulNotes/TheEuropeanUnion, sparking a rivalry between the two organizations. Seeing as how Russia is a much closer and more essential ally to Armenia than the EU is, this decision went over a lot better in Armenia than it later would in Ukraine, though there were minor protests. It is still hoped by many EU members that Armenia can still make some kind of trading deal with the EU while also being part of the Customs Union, in light of it's rather unique geopolitical situation, but Russia likes to keep Armenia on a short leash, like the rest of the former Soviet states, so it remains to be seen. In fact, looking at the bigger picture, the closed border between Turkey and Armenia serves not just as a separation between Turks and Armenians, but as a boundary between NATO and Russia-aligned countries, the last modern vestige of the IronCurtain; one reason Russia sees Armenia as very valuable.
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Armenia sits on the Europe/Asia boundary, but culturally it's considered European (being the first officially Christian country helped), plays its sport in European federations and usually competes in the EurovisionSongContest as mentioned. Armenia's loyalties to Europe came into some question in September 2013 however, when Armenia opted to join Russia's new Customs Union over a free-trade deal with UsefulNotes/TheEuropeanUnion, sparking a rivalry between the two organizations. Seeing as how Russia is a much closer and more essential ally to Armenia than the EU is, this decision went over a lot better in Armenia than it later would in Ukraine, though there were minor protests. It is still hoped by many EU members that Armenia can still make some kind of trading deal with the EU while also being part of the Customs Union, in light of it's rather unique geopolitical situation, but Russia likes to keep Armenia on a short leash, like the rest of the former Soviet states, so it remains to be seen. In fact, looking at the bigger picture, the closed border between Turkey and Armenia serves not just as a separation between Turks and Armenians, but as a boundary between NATO and Russia-aligned countries, the last modern vestige of the IronCurtain; UsefulNotes/IronCurtain; one reason Russia sees Armenia as very valuable.
31st Oct '15 5:13:46 PM nombretomado
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* Robert Kardashian, [[ChewbaccaDefense Johnnie Cochran]]'s no. 2 in the OJSimpson trial, more famous for his {{socialite}} daughters [[KimKardashian Kim]], Khloé, and Kourtney.
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* Robert Kardashian, [[ChewbaccaDefense Johnnie Cochran]]'s no. 2 in the OJSimpson trial, more famous for his {{socialite}} daughters [[KimKardashian [[Creator/KimKardashian Kim]], Khloé, and Kourtney.
9th Jul '15 7:03:45 PM IdentityUnknown
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* A disproportionate amount of ([[ByzantineEmpire Eastern Roman ]]) emperors were Armenian, such as Heraclius, Basil I the [[NonindicativeName Macedonian]], and John I Tzimiskes.
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* A disproportionate amount of ([[ByzantineEmpire [[ByzantineEmpire Eastern Roman ]]) Roman]] emperors were Armenian, such as Heraclius, Basil I the [[NonindicativeName Macedonian]], and John I Tzimiskes.
9th Jul '15 7:03:13 PM IdentityUnknown
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Armenia continued to fall under the rule of almost anyone building an empire for the next thousand years or so with only brief moments of independence in between; of note being the Bagratuni Kingdom between 885 and 1045, which came about after the Arabs relinquished control of the area in hopes of appeasing the Armenians and gaining an ally against the [[ByzantineEmpire Eastern Roman Empire]]. The kingdom however was destined to fall due to the Armenian nakharar families [[FeudingFamilies not liking one another very much]], and splitting their land off into independent kingdoms, which one by one would then be conquered by the Byzantines. The Byzantines didn't have the means to defend Armenia once they had it again, paving the way for the Seljuk Turk invasions. The next two hundred years were chaotic for Greater Armenia, as it was then invaded by the Mongolians, Georgia, Tamerlane's forces, only to finally fall under Ottoman Turkish rule for the majority of the last millennium (its location, between the Black and Caspian seas, makes it a hot commodity for empire builders, unfortunately for the Armenians themselves).
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Armenia continued to fall under the rule of almost anyone building an empire for the next thousand years or so with only brief moments of independence in between; of note being the Bagratuni Kingdom between 885 and 1045, which came about after the Arabs relinquished control of the area in hopes of appeasing the Armenians and gaining an ally against the [[ByzantineEmpire Eastern Roman Empire]]. The kingdom however was destined to fall due to the Armenian nakharar families [[FeudingFamilies not liking one another very much]], and splitting their land off into independent kingdoms, which one by one would then be conquered by the Byzantines. Eastern Romans. The Byzantines Romans didn't have the means to defend Armenia once they had it again, paving the way for the Seljuk Turk invasions. The next two hundred years were chaotic for Greater Armenia, as it was then invaded by the Mongolians, Georgia, Tamerlane's forces, only to finally fall under Ottoman Turkish rule for the majority of the last millennium (its location, between the Black and Caspian seas, makes it a hot commodity for empire builders, unfortunately for the Armenians themselves).

* A disproportionate amount of eastern Roman ([[ByzantineEmpire Byzantine]]) emperors were Armenian, such as Heraclius, Basil I the [[NonindicativeName Macedonian]], and John I Tzimiskes.
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* A disproportionate amount of eastern Roman ([[ByzantineEmpire Byzantine]]) Eastern Roman ]]) emperors were Armenian, such as Heraclius, Basil I the [[NonindicativeName Macedonian]], and John I Tzimiskes.
9th Jul '15 6:51:37 PM IdentityUnknown
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Armenia continued to fall under the rule of almost anyone building an empire for the next thousand years or so with only brief moments of independence in between; of note being the Bagratuni Kingdom between 885 and 1045, which came about after the Arabs relinquished control of the area in hopes of appeasing the Armenians and gaining an ally against the ByzantineEmpire. The kingdom however was destined to fall due to the Armenian nakharar families [[FeudingFamilies not liking one another very much]], and splitting their land off into independent kingdoms, which one by one would then be conquered by the Byzantines. The Byzantines didn't have the means to defend Armenia once they had it again, paving the way for the Seljuk Turk invasions. The next two hundred years were chaotic for Greater Armenia, as it was then invaded by the Mongolians, Georgia, Tamerlane's forces, only to finally fall under Ottoman Turkish rule for the majority of the last millennium (its location, between the Black and Caspian seas, makes it a hot commodity for empire builders, unfortunately for the Armenians themselves).
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Armenia continued to fall under the rule of almost anyone building an empire for the next thousand years or so with only brief moments of independence in between; of note being the Bagratuni Kingdom between 885 and 1045, which came about after the Arabs relinquished control of the area in hopes of appeasing the Armenians and gaining an ally against the ByzantineEmpire.[[ByzantineEmpire Eastern Roman Empire]]. The kingdom however was destined to fall due to the Armenian nakharar families [[FeudingFamilies not liking one another very much]], and splitting their land off into independent kingdoms, which one by one would then be conquered by the Byzantines. The Byzantines didn't have the means to defend Armenia once they had it again, paving the way for the Seljuk Turk invasions. The next two hundred years were chaotic for Greater Armenia, as it was then invaded by the Mongolians, Georgia, Tamerlane's forces, only to finally fall under Ottoman Turkish rule for the majority of the last millennium (its location, between the Black and Caspian seas, makes it a hot commodity for empire builders, unfortunately for the Armenians themselves).
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