History Trivia / Transformers

19th Apr '18 8:17:51 PM philipnova798
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* OneOfUs: The "More than Just a Geek Spark" artbook made for Comic Market 89 contains illustrations from not just franchise veterans Josh Perez and ''Animated'' co-creators Matt Youngberg and Derrick J. Wyatt, but the likes of Creator/StudioTrigger's Hiroyuki Imaishi, Akira Amemiya[[labelnote:*]]also character designer for ''[[VideoGame/TransformersConvoyNoNazo Q Transformers]]''[[/labelnote]] and Yoh Yoshimori, ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka Magica]]'''s Yuto Kaneko, Creator/{{Pixar}}'s Grant Alexander and ''Manga/{{Heroman}}'' creator Shigeto Koyama.

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* OneOfUs: The "More "[[http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/01/01/transformers-just-geek-spark-artbook-307308 More than Just a Geek Spark" Spark]]" artbook made for Comic Market 89 contains illustrations from not just franchise veterans Josh Perez and ''Animated'' co-creators Matt Youngberg and Derrick J. Wyatt, but the likes of Creator/StudioTrigger's Hiroyuki Imaishi, Akira Amemiya[[labelnote:*]]also character designer for ''[[VideoGame/TransformersConvoyNoNazo Q Transformers]]''[[/labelnote]] and Yoh Yoshimori, ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka Magica]]'''s Yuto Kaneko, Creator/{{Pixar}}'s Grant Alexander and ''Manga/{{Heroman}}'' creator Shigeto Koyama.
19th Apr '18 8:16:46 PM philipnova798
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* OneOfUs: The "More than Just a Geek Spark" artbook made for Comic Market 89 contains illustrations from not just franchise veterans Josh Perez and ''Animated'' co-creators Matt Youngberg and Derrick J. Wyatt, but the likes of Creator/StudioTrigger's Hiroyuki Imaishi, Akira Amemiya[[labelnote:*]]also character designer for ''[[VideoGame/TransformersConvoyNoNazo Q Transformers]]''[[/labelnote]] and Yoh Yoshimori, ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka Magica]]'''s Yuto Kaneko, Creator/{{Pixar}}'s Grant Alexander and ''Manga/{{Heroman}}'' creator Shigeto Koyama.
27th Mar '18 4:25:40 PM MeaJae97
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/HugoWeaving claimed that [[https://www.theguardian.com/film/2012/oct/17/hugo-weaving-transformers-meaningless he found the experience "meaningless."]] Creator/MichaelBay [[http://collider.com/michael-bay-hugo-weaving-transformers/ backlashed even harder,]] claiming that acting is just about the money, not the art.
5th Jan '18 12:34:08 PM nombretomado
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* MoneyDearBoy: HugoWeaving admits he read his lines without knowing what they mean and that he's not seen the films. Bay's response over this was... not kind.

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* MoneyDearBoy: HugoWeaving Creator/HugoWeaving admits he read his lines without knowing what they mean and that he's not seen the films. Bay's response over this was... not kind.
7th Dec '17 7:33:28 PM chasemaddigan
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* CreatorsFavorite: Simon Furman, writer for a great number of ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'' comics, has a couple favorites:
** Grimlock. By his pen, Grimlock is a cunning warrior who uses HulkSpeak to [[ObfuscatingStupidity make his enemies underestimate him]], while the TV series simply had him be too dumb to string a sentence together.
** Nightbeat, a C-list character whom Furman brought to the forefront by making him a FilmNoir-style HardboiledDetective. In the current IDW-universe that Furman is helping to write, he [[spoiler: killed Nightbeat off fairly early on so fans can know that AnyoneCanDie,]] even his own favorite character. He did something similar in the G2 comics, [[spoiler: killing off Nightbeat as a self-inflicted PlayerPunch]].
* DuelingShows: TransformersGeneration1 vs. ''The [[WesternAnimation/ChallengeOfTheGoBots Go-Bots]]''
** Interestingly! The two are now considered to exist in the same multiverse. Albeit with the Go-Bots universe being very, ''very'' distant from any known Transformersverse. The only Gobot who has any sort of impact at all is Bugbite, who has since become a Decepticon.
*** Granted, there is a big reason that Hasbro hasn't done much with the GoBots franchise- Bandai. When Hasbro purchased Tonka, they gained only partial ownership of the franchise. Bandai still owns the actual toys, meaning they also own the character models. While we've gotten a few nods as well as some recolored toys, Hasbro can't actually make any on-model GoBots toys for legal reasons. Interestingly, Bandai is releasing their own modern take on many of these characters with a new Machine Robo line in Japan, although being based on Revenge Of Chronos, they will not have the Hanna-Barbera faces.
* Something interesting of note: While a number people claim to have memories of Optimus crumbling into dust after death in the [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie Generation One Movie]], he did not actually do that - it was the [[Anime/TransformersArmada Armada Optimus]] who crumbled into dust on death. They may be confusing Optimus' death with Starscream's - 'Screamer did crumble to dust when dying, and both characters [[UndeathlyPallor turned grey]] as they died.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Megatron almost had a different name. When the writer of the initial Transformers fiction came up with the name, it was shot down by Hasbro, as they felt it conjured up images of nuclear weapons. He then reminded Hasbro Megatron was supposed to be the BigBad and the name was approved.
** Similarly, Starscream was originally named Ulchtar in Denny O'Neill's original treatment for the comic book, but Bob Budiansky changed it.
** Ratchet was originally supposed to be a female, but Hasbro rejected the idea.
6th Dec '17 3:35:15 PM chasemaddigan
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* CreatorBacklash: Creator/MichaelBay apologized for the result of ''Revenge of the Fallen,'' and promised better results for ''Dark of the Moon.''
** Eventually the franchise became this for him. He was essentially forced to keep making sequels like clockwork, and being unable to make [[Film/PainAndGain a more personal movie]] until the franchise took a three-year hiatus. Ironically and hypocritically, executive producer Creator/StevenSpielberg, who bemoans the lack of originality in Hollywood, pressured Bay to keep making more sequels.



* FanNickname: ''Transformers: Rolling On The Floor''
** The human/Transformer hybrid known as [[spoiler:Alice]] is being called [[spoiler:"Deceptislut".]]
** "Bayformers," while starting as a pejorative (and to some still is) has gone on to be an affectionate name for the series and the robot designs in general.
** Due to Optimus' dramatic [[spoiler:sacrifice and resurrection]], many have been calling him "Optimus Christ". [[http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=95801867252 There is even a Facebook group devoted to his honor.]] And why not? He died for our sins.
** In the first movie, Bumblebee projecting an Autobot signal into the clouds = the [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bot-signal]].
* HeAlsoDid: Mark Ryan, the voice of Bumblebee, Jetfire and Lockdown, is best known for playing Nasir in the 1980s series ''Series/RobinOfSherwood'' (the first ever Middle Eastern Merry Man who became a FountainOfExpies, inspiring most famously Morgan Freeman's character in ''Film/RobinHoodPrinceOfThieves'' but also several other Sherwood bandits).

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* FanNickname: ''Transformers: Rolling On The Floor''
** The human/Transformer hybrid known as [[spoiler:Alice]] is being called [[spoiler:"Deceptislut".]]
** "Bayformers," while starting as a pejorative (and to some still is) has gone on to be an affectionate name for the series and the robot designs in general.
** Due to Optimus' dramatic [[spoiler:sacrifice and resurrection]], many have been calling him "Optimus Christ". [[http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=95801867252 There is even a Facebook group devoted to his honor.]] And why not? He died for our sins.
** In the first movie,
Bumblebee projecting an Autobot signal into the clouds = the [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bot-signal]].
* HeAlsoDid: Mark Ryan, MoneyDearBoy: HugoWeaving admits he read his lines without knowing what they mean and that he's not seen the voice of Bumblebee, Jetfire and Lockdown, is best known for playing Nasir in the 1980s series ''Series/RobinOfSherwood'' (the first ever Middle Eastern Merry Man who became a FountainOfExpies, inspiring most famously Morgan Freeman's character in ''Film/RobinHoodPrinceOfThieves'' but also several other Sherwood bandits).films. Bay's response over this was... not kind.



** Fan favorite Springer was scheduled to be in the movie as an Osprey twin rotor helicopter, with ''two'' toys released based on the design. The guess is he was dropped because the Osprey design would make him absolutely tower over near every other robot (at about 60 feet tall) and give Devastator a run for his money.



** Both the twins and Arcee were apparently supposed to combine into a larger robot form. The cycles' version got far enough to make it into the toyline, the Twins...not so much (though the ice cream truck did).



** Soundwave was to appear in the first movie, his role being an DecompositeCharacter of Frenzy and Barricade. Since there would be major size changes involved (he would go from a robot to a radio to a humvee), he was split off. At first, Frenzy was to be named "Soundwave", but the writers changed it because they felt the character was too different from all the other Soundwaves. Another attempt at working him in eventually turned into Blackout and Scorponok.

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** Soundwave was to appear in the first movie, appear, his role being an DecompositeCharacter of Frenzy and Barricade. Since there would be major size changes involved (he would go from a robot to a radio to a humvee), he was split off. At first, Frenzy was to be named "Soundwave", but the writers changed it because they felt the character was too different from all the other Soundwaves. Another attempt at working him in eventually turned into Blackout and Scorponok.



** The various adaptations of ''ROTF'' feature a different ending than the movie itself, where [[spoiler:Megatron, having found out that The Fallen had been lying to him and manipulating him all this time, leaves his master to die and flies back to the ''Nemesis'' with Starscream to awaken his new army]].
** Creator/JamesArnoldTaylor was originally cast as the Fallen, but was later replaced by Tony Todd. He did keep the role for the video game though.



* MoneyDearBoy: HugoWeaving admits he reads his lines without knowing what they mean and that he's not seen the films.
** Bay's response over this was... not kind.
* Peter Cullen reprises his role as Optimus Prime for the Michael Bay films, but he does not reprise his role as Ironhide. Frank Welker returns as the voices of Soundwave and Ravage, but his other characters (Megatron, Frenzy and Laserbeak) have new actors. He was going to portray Megatron once more, but Michael Bay decided that Welker's voice didn't match his vision for Megatron. Though he ''would'' get to voice Galvatron in AOE, and ultimately reclaimed the role of Megatron in TLK.
** Amusingly, Frank Welker's brief lines for Shockwave in DOTM sound an awful lot like his G1 Megatron voice. Fans have also noted (often derisively) Soundwave sounding similar to [[WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget Doctor Claw]]... which, amusingly is because Soundwave's voice ''is'' the same as Claw's; the vocoder effect from G1 was what made them different.
* According to the family tree that Sam presents in the first film, the Witwicky family consists of two generations of inbreeding. This might be a case of CriticalResearchFailure on Sam's part though.

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* MoneyDearBoy: HugoWeaving admits he reads his lines without knowing what they mean and that he's not seen the films.
** Bay's response over this was... not kind.
* Peter Cullen reprises his role as Optimus Prime for the Michael Bay films, but he does not reprise his role as Ironhide. Frank Welker returns as the voices of Soundwave and Ravage, but his other characters (Megatron, Frenzy and Laserbeak) have new actors. He was going to portray Megatron once more, but Michael Bay decided that Welker's voice didn't match his vision for Megatron. Though he ''would'' get to voice Galvatron in AOE, and ultimately reclaimed the role of Megatron in TLK.
** Amusingly, Frank Welker's brief lines for Shockwave in DOTM sound an awful lot like his G1 Megatron voice. Fans have also noted (often derisively) Soundwave sounding similar to [[WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget Doctor Claw]]... which, amusingly is because Soundwave's voice ''is'' the same as Claw's; the vocoder effect from G1 was what made them different.
* According to the family tree that Sam presents in the first film, presents, the Witwicky family consists of two generations of inbreeding. This might be a case of CriticalResearchFailure on Sam's part though.
22nd Nov '17 3:21:58 PM randomguy399
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* NamesTheSame: Rachael Taylor and Anthony Anderson's characters are named [[Series/TheWalkingDead Maggie and Glen]].
20th Oct '17 12:23:07 PM XDiakos
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* Peter Cullen reprises his role as Optimus Prime for the Michael Bay films, but he does not reprise his role as Ironhide. Frank Welker returns as the voices of Soundwave and Ravage, but his other characters (Megatron, Frenzy and Laserbeak) have new actors. He was going to portray Megatron once more, but Michael Bay decided that Welker's voice didn't match his vision for Megatron. Though he ''would'' get to voice Galvatron in AOE.

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* Peter Cullen reprises his role as Optimus Prime for the Michael Bay films, but he does not reprise his role as Ironhide. Frank Welker returns as the voices of Soundwave and Ravage, but his other characters (Megatron, Frenzy and Laserbeak) have new actors. He was going to portray Megatron once more, but Michael Bay decided that Welker's voice didn't match his vision for Megatron. Though he ''would'' get to voice Galvatron in AOE.AOE, and ultimately reclaimed the role of Megatron in TLK.
6th Oct '17 4:46:41 AM axle-k89
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* ActingForTwo: In the first film, Jess Harnell voices both an Autobot and a Decepticon: Ironhide and Barricade.
14th Jul '17 12:33:45 AM AlternativeCola
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* AdaptationSequence: Toys --> [[Comicbook/TheTransformers Comic]] --> [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers Cartoon]] --> [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie Animated movie]] --> [[WesternAnimation/BeastWars Sequel]] [[WesternAnimation/BeastMachines cartoons]] --> [[Anime/TransformersRobotsInDisguise Reboot]] [[Anime/UnicronTrilogy cartoons]] --> [[ComicBook/TransformersGenerationOne Lots]] [[ComicBook/TheTransformersAllHailMegatron lots]] [[ComicBook/TheTransformersLastStandOfTheWreckers more]] [[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW comics]] --> [[Film/{{Transformers}} Live-action movie]] --> [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated Another reboot cartoon]] --> [[Franchise/TransformersTimelines Even more comics, and prose]] --> [[Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen Second movie]] --> [[VideoGame/TransformersWarForCybertron Video game]] --> [[Literature/TransformersExodus More prose]] --> [[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime Slightly video game/movie-based reboot cartoon]] --> [[Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon Third Movie]] --> [[WesternAnimation/TransformersRescueBots Spin-off to the previous cartoon]] --> [[Film/TransformersAgeOfExtinction Fourth Movie]] --> [[WesternAnimation/TransformersRobotsInDisguise Another sequel cartoon]].

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* AdaptationSequence: Toys --> [[Comicbook/TheTransformers Comic]] --> [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers Cartoon]] --> [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie Animated movie]] --> [[WesternAnimation/BeastWars Sequel]] [[WesternAnimation/BeastMachines cartoons]] --> [[Anime/TransformersRobotsInDisguise Reboot]] [[Anime/UnicronTrilogy cartoons]] --> [[ComicBook/TransformersGenerationOne Lots]] [[ComicBook/TheTransformersAllHailMegatron lots]] [[ComicBook/TheTransformersLastStandOfTheWreckers more]] [[ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW comics]] --> [[Film/{{Transformers}} Live-action movie]] --> [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated Another reboot cartoon]] --> [[Franchise/TransformersTimelines Even more comics, and prose]] --> [[Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen Second movie]] --> [[VideoGame/TransformersWarForCybertron Video game]] --> [[Literature/TransformersExodus More prose]] --> [[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime Slightly video game/movie-based reboot cartoon]] --> [[Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon Third Movie]] --> [[WesternAnimation/TransformersRescueBots Spin-off to the previous cartoon]] --> [[Film/TransformersAgeOfExtinction Fourth Movie]] --> [[WesternAnimation/TransformersRobotsInDisguise Another sequel cartoon]].cartoon]] --> [[Film/TransformersTheLastKnight Fifth Movie]]
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