History Trivia / TheTonightShow

20th Mar '18 4:55:00 PM JamesAustin
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* ''Trivia/TheTonightShowStarringJohnnyCarson''
* ''Trivia/TheTonightShowWithJayLeno''
* ''Trivia/TheTonightShowWithConanOBrien''
* ''Trivia/TheTonightShowStarringJimmyFallon''
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--->'''Allen:''' In case you're just joining us, this is ''Tonight'', and I can't think of too much to tell you about it, but I want to give you the bad news first: this program is going to go on ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8AYUfBt1dE forever]]''.[[note]](Okay, so he was talking about the show's night-by-night length, but still...)[[/note]]

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--->'''Allen:''' -->'''Allen:''' In case you're just joining us, this is ''Tonight'', and I can't think of too much to tell you about it, but I want to give you the bad news first: this program is going to go on ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8AYUfBt1dE forever]]''.[[note]](Okay, so he was talking about the show's night-by-night length, but still...)[[/note]]



!!Johnny Carson's version:
* AllStarCast: The same episode that originated the [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal Copper Clapper Caper]] also featured a Mighty Carson Art Players presentation of a Film/MutinyOnTheBounty parody. The "Players" other than Johnny were James Garner[[note]](Fletcher Christian)[[/note]], Richard Crenna[[note]] (unnamed, likely Alexander Smith)[[/note]], Dan Rowan[[note]] (Able Seaman Rowan)[[/note]], Dick Martin[[note]] (Able Seaman Martin)[[/note]], and Milton Berle[[note]] (The Cook)[[/note]].
* CreatorsFavorite: Creator/BurtReynolds was on the show over ''sixty'' times during the 30-year run. Other frequent guests included David Steinberg, David Brenner, Bob Newhart, Creator/DonRickles, Buddy Hackett, Creator/GeorgeCarlin, Orson Bean, Charles Nelson Reilly, Creator/DavidLetterman, Creator/DomDeluise, and Carl Reiner.
* EditedForSyndication:
** In 1983, a ClipShow series called ''Carson's Comedy Classics'' was offered to local stations. Each half-hour episode consisted of two or three extended segments, usually "Mighty Carson Art Players" skits and/or segments with Carson characters such as Carnac and Aunt Blabby, plus shorter segments (i.e. commercial spoofs).
** Also applies to the Antenna TV run; as NBC owns the name "The Tonight Show", a new title sequence had to be made, referring to the show as simply "Johnny Carson". Though unlike ''Carson's Comedy Classics'', these are the full episodes (although occasionally, musical performances are cut, likely due to licensing issues).
* ExecutiveMeddling: As was common for the era, Johnny couldn't say what network a show was on if it wasn't NBC; he could only say "it airs on another network". The rule was relaxed starting with Leno's era.
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes:
** For Johnny Carson's tenure, with selected episodes officially being released on DVD, Carson Productions is becoming increasingly insistent on having unauthorized Website/YouTube Carson clips removed from the site. To their credit, Carson Productions has been releasing a good number of complete episodes (usually the mid 70's 90 minute episodes) on [=YouTube=] for free viewing. And for the first time since 1992, the Carson shows are airing again on broadcast television, specifically the subchannel Antenna TV. When episodes started on Antenna TV, Carson Productions opened [[https://licensing.johnnycarson.com/ their licensing vault]] to the general public. New registrations are now likely limited to media personnel, though.
* MilestoneCelebration: Prime-time specials to observe his anniversary 1972, to celebrate Carson's 10th anniversary of hosting the show; 1977, for his 15th; and annually from 1979-1991. The first special was rather limited as far as showing "classic" highlights, since most shows had been erased or recorded over, although famous moments i.e., Ed Ames' tomahawk throw, the ''Franchise/{{Dragnet}}'' parody, Tiny Tim's wedding and others were preserved and shown. The later specials had more archived clips, since all shows produced after sometime in 1972 exist.
* MissingEpisode: Much of the first ten years, due to tape reuse. 1972-92 are intact.
** The Antenna TV reruns almost entirely skip the guest hosted episodes, so unless you happen to have them taped off TV from their initial airings, good luck seeing them.

!!Jay Leno's versions:
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Even Jay Leno's era is not exempt from this; ''none'' of his episodes or specials have come to DVD, and the only legally-available options were a few Headlines and Jaywalking compilations on iTunes, which have since been removed from the service. His ''Tonight Show'' [=YouTube=] channel is also gone, so you can't even watch ''clips'' from his era on a legit YT channel.
* ThePeteBest: Branford Marsalis was the bandleader before Kevin Eubanks.
* RecycledSet: For his first two years, Leno continued to use Carson's old set, albeit updated. In 1994, he moved into the set he'd keep for the next 15 years. When he returned in 2010, he kept his "Jay Leno Show" set, again slightly altered.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Originally, Leno's post-''Tonight'' project was to have been an American ''TopGear''. Leno actually turned down this idea when it was initially proposed to him, realizing that what made ''Top Gear'' work was its non-commercial carriage on Creator/TheBBC...and an NBC version would be filled with ProductPlacement and ExecutiveMeddling. There was also some concern from BBC America that an American version would cannibalize ratings of the original on BBC America, where it's very popular. An American version ''did'' eventually premiere on the History Channel.
** ''The Tonight Show Starring David Letterman'' could well have been the case, but Letterman assumed he'd be the successor, as did Carson. Leno (or his manager, Helen Kushnick; nobody's actually really sure) actively but quietly campaigned to get the job from the people that actually made the decision, however, so he got it and Letterman went to CBS.

!!Conan O'Brien's version:
* ExecutiveMeddling: The entire debacle that NBC created by trying to reshuffle their schedule by moving The Jay Leno Show from an hour at 10 to a half hour at 11:30 and moving ''Tonight'' and ''Late Night'' back half an hour. It was unclear if ''Last Call'' would remain on the air.
* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Thanks to the 2010 ''Tonight Show'' debacle, NBC will never release any [=DVDs=] or digital downloads of ''The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien''. In fact, the only acknowledgment of the show at ''all'' as of late seems to be a split-second showing of O'Brien's name as part of a list of past ''Tonight Show'' hosts that was seen during various promos for Jimmy Fallon's then-upcoming premiere. Doubly annoying is that NBC still enforces the copyright on the show, meaning even ''clips'' are hard to come by on [=YouTube=], despite the fact that NBC has no intentions of releasing it themselves.
* ScrewedByTheNetwork: NBC made all the wrong decisions by pretty much everyone's observation.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: The episode with Creator/TeriHatcher as a guest was never aired; it was never finished because Conan was rushed to the hospital for a concussion that he suffered during a foot race with Hatcher.
* WriterRevolt:
** Since NBC's last bits of ExecutiveMeddling, Conan devoted his monologues to openly bashing NBC, and did so right up until the GrandFinale.
** There's an element of CouldSayItBut here, as Conan had been given a gag order prohibiting him from badmouthing the network. He took to lampshading this in his last few shows.
** One of the writers did a sketch so against the network it seems Conan didn't want to say it.
** Conan deliberately ratcheted up the cost of his show, thanks to a contract loophole that allowed him to do whatever the hell he wanted on NBC's tab. Starting with a [[CoolCar Bugatti Veyron]] mouse and the 2009 Kentucky derby winner in a mink coat. Of course, most of it wasn't real... except the expensive songs and their royalties.

!!Jimmy Fallon's version:
* ThrowItIn: The theme song for Jimmy's run was created entirely on accident. According to Questlove, the Roots were just screwing around to test out the studio's speaker systems and the recording of it got mixed in with the batch of songs they actually did write as potential theme songs. Jimmy heard the improv song and decided that was the theme song.
8th Jan '18 7:11:48 PM Skywatcher
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** The Antenna TV reruns skip the guest hosted episodes entirely, so unless you happen to have them taped off TV from their initial airings, good luck seeing them.

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** The Antenna TV reruns almost entirely skip the guest hosted episodes entirely, episodes, so unless you happen to have them taped off TV from their initial airings, good luck seeing them.
8th Jan '18 7:07:54 PM Skywatcher
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* AllStarCast: The same episode that originated the [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal Copper Clapper Caper]] also featured a Mighty Carson Art Players presentation of a Film/MutinyOnTheBounty parody. The "Players" other than Johnny were James Garner [[note]](Fletcher Christian)[[/note]], Richard Crenna [[note]](unnamed, likely Alexander Smith)[[/note]], Dan Rowan [[note]](Able Seaman Rowan)[[/note]], Dick Martin [[note]](Able Seaman Martin)[[/note]], and Milton Berle [[note]](The Cook)[[/note]].

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* AllStarCast: The same episode that originated the [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal Copper Clapper Caper]] also featured a Mighty Carson Art Players presentation of a Film/MutinyOnTheBounty parody. The "Players" other than Johnny were James Garner [[note]](Fletcher Garner[[note]](Fletcher Christian)[[/note]], Richard Crenna [[note]](unnamed, Crenna[[note]] (unnamed, likely Alexander Smith)[[/note]], Dan Rowan [[note]](Able Rowan[[note]] (Able Seaman Rowan)[[/note]], Dick Martin [[note]](Able Martin[[note]] (Able Seaman Martin)[[/note]], and Milton Berle [[note]](The Berle[[note]] (The Cook)[[/note]].
8th Jan '18 6:53:32 PM Skywatcher
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* AllStarCast: The same episode that originated the [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal Copper Clapper Caper]] also featured a Mighty Carson Art Players presentation of a Film/MutinyOnTheBounty parody. The "Players" other than Johnny were James Garner [[note]](Fletcher Christian)[[/note]], Richard Crenna [[note]](unnamed, likely Alexander Smith)[[/note]], Dan Rowan [[note]](Able Seaman Rowan)[[/note]], Dick Martin [[note]](Able Seaman Martin)[[/note]], and Milton Berle [[note]](The Cook)[[/note]].
21st Dec '17 7:15:23 PM speedyboris
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*** The Antenna TV reruns skip the guest hosted episodes entirely, so unless you happen to have them taped off TV from their initial airings, good luck seeing them.

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*** ** The Antenna TV reruns skip the guest hosted episodes entirely, so unless you happen to have them taped off TV from their initial airings, good luck seeing them.
21st Dec '17 7:15:08 PM speedyboris
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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes:
** For Johnny Carson's tenure, with selected episodes officially being released on DVD, Carson Productions is becoming increasingly insistent on having unauthorized Website/YouTube Carson clips removed from the site. To their credit, Carson Productions has been releasing a good number of complete episodes (usually the mid 70's 90 minute episodes) on [=YouTube=] for free viewing. And for the first time since 1992, the Carson shows are airing again on broadcast television, specifically the subchannel Antenna TV. When episodes started on Antenna TV, Carson Productions opened [[https://licensing.johnnycarson.com/ their licensing vault]] to the general public. New registrations are now likely limited to media personnel, though.
** Even Jay Leno's era is not exempt from this; ''none'' of his episodes or specials have come to DVD, and the only legally-available options were a few Headlines and Jaywalking compilations on iTunes, which have since been removed from the service. His ''Tonight Show'' [=YouTube=] channel is also gone, so you can't even watch ''clips'' from his era on a legit YT channel.
** Thanks to the 2010 ''Tonight Show'' debacle, NBC will never release any [=DVDs=] or digital downloads of ''The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien''. In fact, the only acknowledgment of the show at ''all'' as of late seems to be a split-second showing of O'Brien's name as part of a list of past ''Tonight Show'' hosts that was seen during various promos for Jimmy Fallon's then-upcoming premiere.
* MissingEpisode:
** Much of Steve Allen's tenure is gone, although the premiere seems to exist.
--->'''Allen:''' In case you're just joining us, this is ''Tonight'', and I can't think of too much to tell you about it, but I want to give you the bad news first: this program is going to go on ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8AYUfBt1dE forever]]''.[[note]](Okay, so he was talking about the show's night-by-night length, but still...)[[/note]]
** Much of the first ten years of Johnny Carson's version, due to tape reuse. 1972-92 are intact.
*** The Antenna TV reruns skip the guest hosted episodes entirely, so unless you happen to have them taped off TV from their initial airings, good luck seeing them.



!!Steve Allen's version:
* MissingEpisode: Much of Steve Allen's tenure is gone, although the premiere seems to exist.
--->'''Allen:''' In case you're just joining us, this is ''Tonight'', and I can't think of too much to tell you about it, but I want to give you the bad news first: this program is going to go on ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8AYUfBt1dE forever]]''.[[note]](Okay, so he was talking about the show's night-by-night length, but still...)[[/note]]



* KeepCirculatingTheTapes:
** For Johnny Carson's tenure, with selected episodes officially being released on DVD, Carson Productions is becoming increasingly insistent on having unauthorized Website/YouTube Carson clips removed from the site. To their credit, Carson Productions has been releasing a good number of complete episodes (usually the mid 70's 90 minute episodes) on [=YouTube=] for free viewing. And for the first time since 1992, the Carson shows are airing again on broadcast television, specifically the subchannel Antenna TV. When episodes started on Antenna TV, Carson Productions opened [[https://licensing.johnnycarson.com/ their licensing vault]] to the general public. New registrations are now likely limited to media personnel, though.




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* MissingEpisode: Much of the first ten years, due to tape reuse. 1972-92 are intact.
*** The Antenna TV reruns skip the guest hosted episodes entirely, so unless you happen to have them taped off TV from their initial airings, good luck seeing them.


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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Even Jay Leno's era is not exempt from this; ''none'' of his episodes or specials have come to DVD, and the only legally-available options were a few Headlines and Jaywalking compilations on iTunes, which have since been removed from the service. His ''Tonight Show'' [=YouTube=] channel is also gone, so you can't even watch ''clips'' from his era on a legit YT channel.


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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Thanks to the 2010 ''Tonight Show'' debacle, NBC will never release any [=DVDs=] or digital downloads of ''The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien''. In fact, the only acknowledgment of the show at ''all'' as of late seems to be a split-second showing of O'Brien's name as part of a list of past ''Tonight Show'' hosts that was seen during various promos for Jimmy Fallon's then-upcoming premiere. Doubly annoying is that NBC still enforces the copyright on the show, meaning even ''clips'' are hard to come by on [=YouTube=], despite the fact that NBC has no intentions of releasing it themselves.
21st Dec '17 7:11:07 PM speedyboris
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*** The Antenna TV reruns skip the guest hosted episodes entirely, so unless you happen to have them taped off TV from their initial airings, good luck seeing them.
14th Nov '17 5:04:46 AM speedyboris
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** Also applies to the Antenna TV run; as NBC owns the name "The Tonight Show", a new title sequence had to be made, referring to the show as simply "Johnny Carson". Though unlike ''Carson's Comedy Classics'', these are the full episodes.

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** Also applies to the Antenna TV run; as NBC owns the name "The Tonight Show", a new title sequence had to be made, referring to the show as simply "Johnny Carson". Though unlike ''Carson's Comedy Classics'', these are the full episodes.episodes (although occasionally, musical performances are cut, likely due to licensing issues).
14th Nov '17 5:03:53 AM speedyboris
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* ExecutiveMeddling: As was common for the era, Johnny couldn't say what network a show was on if it wasn't NBC; he could only say "it airs on another network". The rule was relaxed starting with Leno's era.
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* RecycledSet: For his first two years, Leno continued to use Carson's old set, albeit updated. In 1994, he moved into the set he'd keep for the next 15 years. When he returned in 2010, he kept his "Jay Leno Show" set, again slightly altered.
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