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*** This is the “third” version of the movie that exists, since two versions were sort of scrapped internally before they settled on this version helmed by Gary Rydstrom.
*** Earlier versions had a much more realistic art style, very close to the work of Brian Froud.
*** Before the Disney merger, Dawn was sort of the center of the story, the narrator, so we get everything through her perspective. The film originally opened with her singing “Can’t Help Falling in Love.” In those early versions, we don’t really see Marianne’s softer side–she starts out as “the tough girl.”
*** Originally, Bog felt like he was falling in love with Dawn because he had just never been shown any kind of affection, and so he reacts very strongly to Dawn’s sudden attention after she’s been love-potioned. Eventually, though, once he meets Marianne, he realizes that what he feels for her is “real” love and moves on from Dawn. (This concept felt sort of risky and controversial since she’s so young, so they opted out of it.)
*** Dawn comes to realize that she would rather be on her own if she can’t meet “the counterpart to share her love for life,” so she remains single at the end, staying good friends with Sunny. That message, that it was fine to be on your own, was really important to George Lucas, but about a year before the film was released, Disney decided they wanted Dawn/Sunny to be an item at the end.
*** Before the Disney merger, the story was a lot darker with just a dash of comic relief. Mostly darker/sadder songs, more realistic designs, etc.
*** Earlier versions had a much more realistic art style, very close to the work of Brian Froud.
*** Before the Disney merger, Dawn was sort of the center of the story, the narrator, so we get everything through her perspective. The film originally opened with her singing “Can’t Help Falling in Love.” In those early versions, we don’t really see Marianne’s softer side–she starts out as “the tough girl.”
*** Originally, Bog felt like he was falling in love with Dawn because he had just never been shown any kind of affection, and so he reacts very strongly to Dawn’s sudden attention after she’s been love-potioned. Eventually, though, once he meets Marianne, he realizes that what he feels for her is “real” love and moves on from Dawn. (This concept felt sort of risky and controversial since she’s so young, so they opted out of it.)
*** Dawn comes to realize that she would rather be on her own if she can’t meet “the counterpart to share her love for life,” so she remains single at the end, staying good friends with Sunny. That message, that it was fine to be on your own, was really important to George Lucas, but about a year before the film was released, Disney decided they wanted Dawn/Sunny to be an item at the end.
*** Before the Disney merger, the story was a lot darker with just a dash of comic relief. Mostly darker/sadder songs, more realistic designs, etc.
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*** The story used to have a FramingDevice where it was a bedtime story being told by Griselda to a baby goblin named Thuff who was [[spoiler: the baby of Stuff and Thang]].Thang]].
*** In the final version, the opening is narrated by the Fairy King, but it was also narrated by Aura (the Sugar Plum Fairy) and at one point Griselda. In one version, we can see Bog and Marianne’s hands opening the map.
*** In the final version, the opening is narrated by the Fairy King, but it was also narrated by Aura (the Sugar Plum Fairy) and at one point Griselda. In one version, we can see Bog and Marianne’s hands opening the map.
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*** Matthew Mcconaughey was originally considered for Roland.
*** In early versions of the film, Jessica Biel played Marianne.
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*** In early versions of the film, Jessica Biel played Marianne.
*** Kristin Chenoweth came onto the project fairly late, after the Disney merger. She played Plum very crazy, and it’s even toned down quite a bit in the final film.
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*** Matthew Mcconaughey Creator/MatthewMcConaughey was originally considered for Roland.
*** In early versions of the film,Jessica Biel Creator/JessicaBiel played Marianne.
***Kristin Chenoweth Creator/KristinChenoweth came onto the project fairly late, after the Disney merger. She played Plum very crazy, and it’s even toned down quite a bit in the final film.
*** In early versions of the film,
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* WorkingTitle: When director Gary Rydstrom visited the Singapore studio, he asked for title suggestions, but since they could never really come up with anything better than Primrose, that was the title for a very long time, until they settled on Strange Magic.
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** Since Dawn is less of a focus in the Disney version, Disney executives used to say that Dawn would be more central in “the sequel.”
** Disney planned a typical run of high profile merchandising, Halloween costumes, action figures, the whole nine yards, but it never happened.
** There was also an idea for an Adventures of Dawn and Sunny TV spinoff.
** Disney planned a typical run of high profile merchandising, Halloween costumes, action figures, the whole nine yards, but it never happened.
** There was also an idea for an Adventures of Dawn and Sunny TV spinoff.
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*** In one version, Marianne sees Bog when she’s in the Dark Forest, all intimidating and in shadow, and gets really scared of him. Instead of whispering “that place,” she has flashbacks of “that face.”
*** There was a scene where Sunny found Dawn imprisoned and said, “I’m here to rescue you!” and she said, “Nope! Nope! I’m waiting for Bog!”
*** “Breakaway” by Kelly Clarkson was once considered after “C’mon Marianne.”
*** In looking for a duet for Bog and Marianne, everyone wanted something that was both creepy and romantic. One choice was “Bring Me to Life” by Evanescence, which was recorded.
*** In one version of the “Strange Magic” duet, they weren’t singing out loud, but “from their hearts.”
*** There was a scene where Sunny found Dawn imprisoned and said, “I’m here to rescue you!” and she said, “Nope! Nope! I’m waiting for Bog!”
*** “Breakaway” by Kelly Clarkson was once considered after “C’mon Marianne.”
*** In looking for a duet for Bog and Marianne, everyone wanted something that was both creepy and romantic. One choice was “Bring Me to Life” by Evanescence, which was recorded.
*** In one version of the “Strange Magic” duet, they weren’t singing out loud, but “from their hearts.”
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*** Dawn was going to sing a very sad, downbeat rendition of “Love Hurts” by Nazareth. Other Dawn songs were “Sunny” by Marvin Gaye and “Someday We’ll Be Together” by The Supremes, which was also a very slow version that she sang while crying on her rose bed while Sunny listened outside her door.
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*** The original “I Wanna Dance with Somebody” is longer and is basically Dawn flitting from boy to boy and going “don’t you wanna dance? you? don’t you wanna dance?”
*** George Lucas’s original concept for the opening was a live-action shot of a little girl’s backyard, zooming in on the fairy world, where we’d start to realize that what first looked like a butterfly was actually a fairy. The film would have ended a similar way. But they decided they didn’t want a human presence in the film after all.
*** The first act was changed quite a bit, lots of tweaks. In one version, Marianne doesn’t fly into the Dark Forest until after she sees Roland cheating on her, and she bursts into tears and gets lost in the Dark Forest. Her father comes to get her, and Roland is there pretending like he has no idea what Marianne was doing out there and like everything between them is fine.
*** George Lucas’s original concept for the opening was a live-action shot of a little girl’s backyard, zooming in on the fairy world, where we’d start to realize that what first looked like a butterfly was actually a fairy. The film would have ended a similar way. But they decided they didn’t want a human presence in the film after all.
*** The first act was changed quite a bit, lots of tweaks. In one version, Marianne doesn’t fly into the Dark Forest until after she sees Roland cheating on her, and she bursts into tears and gets lost in the Dark Forest. Her father comes to get her, and Roland is there pretending like he has no idea what Marianne was doing out there and like everything between them is fine.
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*** Dawn is meant to be roughly 14-15. In production meetings, she was sometimes described as “a 9-year-old trapped in a 15-year-old’s body.”
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*** Matthew McConaughey was originally considered for Roland.
*** In early versions of the film, Jessica Biel played Marianne.
*** Kristin Chenoweth came onto the project fairly late, after the Disney merger. She played Plum very crazy, and it’s even toned down quite a bit in the final film.
*** In early versions of the film, Jessica Biel played Marianne.
*** Kristin Chenoweth came onto the project fairly late, after the Disney merger. She played Plum very crazy, and it’s even toned down quite a bit in the final film.
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*** Originally, Roland’s wings were going to have an embarrassing pattern on them, like a smiley face, and he would always refuse to open his wings because he didn’t want anyone to laugh at him. That’s why he’s always riding on a squirrel instead of flying. During the final fight with Bog, he was going to unfurl his wings finally, but they decided the gag payoff wasn’t funny enough to warrant that long of a set-up.
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** There are tidbits like the song Dawn is named after ("Dawn, Go Away") was in the movie for a long time but [[CutSong got cut]].
** Sunny was originally white and had a full ginger beard.
** The Bog King was originally an orphan raised by the goblins.
** The story used to have a FramingDevice where it was a bedtime story being told to a baby goblin who was [[spoiler: the baby of Stuff and Thang]].
** Sunny was originally white and had a full ginger beard.
** The Bog King was originally an orphan raised by the goblins.
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** Several of the animators who worked on the movie did a livestream chat with some fans where they revealed trivia about the movie, [[http://joons.tumblr.com/post/119743383725/strange-magic-livestream-trivia a lot of it is collected here]]. There are tidbits like the song Dawn is named after ("Dawn, Go Away") was in the movie for a long time but [[CutSong got cut]], the Bog King was originally an orphan raised by the goblins, and the story used to have a FramingDevice where it was a bedtime story being told to a baby goblin who was [[spoiler: the baby of Stuff and Thang]].
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** Several of the animators who worked on the movie did a livestream chat with some fans where they revealed trivia about the movie, [[http://joons.tumblr.com/post/119743383725/strange-magic-livestream-trivia a lot of it is collected here]].
** There are tidbits like the song Dawn is named after ("Dawn, Go Away") was in the movie for a long time but [[CutSong gotcut]], the cut]].
** Sunny was originally white and had a full ginger beard.
** The Bog King was originally an orphan raised by thegoblins, and the goblins.
** The story used to have a FramingDevice where it was a bedtime story being told to a baby goblin who was [[spoiler: the baby of Stuff and Thang]].
** There are tidbits like the song Dawn is named after ("Dawn, Go Away") was in the movie for a long time but [[CutSong got
** Sunny was originally white and had a full ginger beard.
** The Bog King was originally an orphan raised by the
** The story used to have a FramingDevice where it was a bedtime story being told to a baby goblin who was [[spoiler: the baby of Stuff and Thang]].
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* FanNickname: Fans call the Bog King things like "Pinecone", "Pinecone King", and "Angry Pinecone" because of his very rough look. His personality has also prompted the title "King of the Dork Forest."
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* WrittenForMyKids: Creator/GeorgeLucas made this film for his daughters since he viewed ''Franchise/StarWars'' as being for 12 year old boys. [[HilariousInHindsight Then the next three movie in that series had female leads as the main characters.]]
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* WrittenForMyKids: Creator/GeorgeLucas made this film for his daughters since he viewed ''Franchise/StarWars'' as being for 12 year old boys. [[HilariousInHindsight Then the next three movie in that series had female leads as the main characters.]]
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* AlanSmithee: The film's release under the Touchstone name could be seen as Disney trying to sweep their involvement with the film under the rug.
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* CreatorKiller: This was essentially the last straw for Creator/GeorgeLucas as an independent unit. While being named a Disney Legend in 2015, he was pushed to the backburner regarding ''Franchise/StarWars'' (though he had retired back in 2012 following his sale of the company).
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* CreatorKiller: This was essentially the last straw for Creator/GeorgeLucas as an independent unit.producer. While being named a Disney Legend in 2015, he was pushed to the backburner regarding ''Franchise/StarWars'' (though he had retired back in 2012 following his sale of the company).
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** This was essentially the last straw for both Creator/GeorgeLucas and Touchstone as independent units; Lucas, while being named a Disney Legend in 2015, was pushed to the backburner regarding ''Franchise/StarWars'' (though he had retired back in 2012 following his sale of the company), and Touchstone went dormant within months.
** In addition, not only would the film become Lucasfilm Animation's only project not tied to ''Star Wars'', but it also became their final film to date, as Disney began scaling the division back to focus on cartoons based on that franchise.
** This was essentially the last straw for both Creator/GeorgeLucas and Touchstone as independent units; Lucas, while being named a Disney Legend in 2015, was pushed to the backburner regarding ''Franchise/StarWars'' (though he had retired back in 2012 following his sale of the company), and Touchstone went dormant within months.
** In addition, not only would the film become Lucasfilm Animation's only project not tied to ''Star Wars'', but it also became their final film to date, as Disney began scaling the division back to focus on cartoons based on that franchise.
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**CreatorKiller: This was essentially the last straw for both Creator/GeorgeLucas and Touchstone as an independent units; Lucas, while unit. While being named a Disney Legend in 2015, he was pushed to the backburner regarding ''Franchise/StarWars'' (though he had retired back in 2012 following his sale of the company), and Touchstone went dormant within months.
** In addition, not only would the film become Lucasfilm Animation's only project not tied to ''Star Wars'', but it also became their final film to date, as Disney began scaling the division back to focus on cartoons based on that franchise.company).
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** In addition, not only would the film become Lucasfilm Animation's only project not tied to ''Star Wars'', but it also became their final film to date, as Disney began scaling the division back to focus on cartoons based on that franchise.
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* AlanSmithee: The film's release under the Touchstone name could be seen as Disney trying to sweep their involvement with the film under the rug.
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** ''Strange Magic'' This was essentially the last straw for both George Lucas Creator/GeorgeLucas and Touchstone as independent units; Lucas, while being named a Disney Legend in 2015, was pushed to the backburner regarding ''Franchise/StarWars'' (though he had retired back in 2012 following his sale of the company), and Touchstone went dormant within months.
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* SoMyKidsCanWatch: George Lucas made this film for his daughters since he viewed ''Star Wars'' as being for 12 year old boys. [[HilariousInHindsight Then the next three movie in that series had female leads as the main characters.]]
* ThrowItIn: At the beginning of the movie, Marianne does funny impressions of all the boys Dawn likes. Her voice actor Evan Rachel Wood actually made those expressions in the recording booth and the animators liked them so much they used them.
* ThrowItIn: At the beginning of the movie, Marianne does funny impressions of all the boys Dawn likes. Her voice actor Evan Rachel Wood actually made those expressions in the recording booth and the animators liked them so much they used them.
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* SoMyKidsCanWatch: George Lucas Creator/GeorgeLucas made this film for his daughters since he viewed ''Star Wars'' as being for 12 year old boys. [[HilariousInHindsight Then the next three movie in that series had female leads as the main characters.]]
* StillbornFranchise: There was going to be a sequel series focusing on Dawn and Sunny.
* ThrowItIn: At the beginning of the movie, Marianne does funny impressions of all the boys Dawn likes. Her voice actorEvan Rachel Wood Creator/EvanRachelWood actually made those expressions in the recording booth and the animators liked them so much they used them.
* StillbornFranchise: There was going to be a sequel series focusing on Dawn and Sunny.
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* SoMyKidsCanWatch: George Lucas made this film for his daughters since he viewed ''Star Wars'' as being for 12 year old boys. [[HilariousInHindsight Then the next three movie in that series had a female lead as the main characters.]]
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* SoMyKidsCanWatch: George Lucas made this film for his daughters since he viewed ''Star Wars'' as being for 12 year old boys. [[HilariousInHindsight Then the next three movie in that series had a female lead leads as the main characters.]]
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Disney bought out Lucasfilm before it was released. When they did release it, they released it under Creator/TouchstonePictures in [[DumpMonths January]] with little advertising. Disney also limited the worldwide home video release to DVD and Digital HD ''only'', with no Blu-ray release anywhere in the world, a highly unusual move for any theatrically released animated film in TheNewTens. The decision appears to be a late one as retailers were prepared for a Blu-ray with [=SKUs=] [[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/bd-strange-magic-bd-blu-ray-disc/3938446.p?id=3347627 set up in advance]].
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Disney bought out Lucasfilm before it was released. When they did release it, they released it under Creator/TouchstonePictures in [[DumpMonths January]] with little advertising. Disney also limited the worldwide home video release to DVD and Digital HD ''only'', with no Blu-ray release anywhere in the world, a highly unusual move for any theatrically released animated film in TheNewTens. The decision appears to be a late one as retailers were prepared for a Blu-ray with [=SKUs=] [[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/bd-strange-magic-bd-blu-ray-disc/3938446.p?id=3347627 set up in advance]].advance.
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* CreatorKiller: ''Strange Magic'' was essentially the last straw for both George Lucas and Touchstone as independent units; Lucas, while being named a Disney Legend in 2015, was pushed to the backburner regarding ''Star Wars'' (though he had retired back in 2012 following his sale of the company), and Touchstone went dormant within months.
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** ''Strange Magic'' was essentially the last straw for both George Lucas and Touchstone as independent units; Lucas, while being named a Disney Legend in 2015, was pushed to the backburner regarding
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Made only 5 million dollars the first weekend, breaking a record as the worst grossing animated film released in over 3,000 theaters. It only made 12 million dollars before being pulled. However, its budget has not been revealed, though it was speculated to be somewhere between $70M and $100M. Suffice to say, ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' helped Lucasfilm overcome the shortfall from this movie.
* CreatorKiller: Essentially the last straw for both George Lucas and Touchstone as independent units; Lucas, while being named a Disney Legend in 2015, was pushed to the backburner regarding ''Star Wars'' (though he had retired back in 2012 following his sale of the company), and Touchstone went dormant within months.
* CreatorKiller: Essentially the last straw for both George Lucas and Touchstone as independent units; Lucas, while being named a Disney Legend in 2015, was pushed to the backburner regarding ''Star Wars'' (though he had retired back in 2012 following his sale of the company), and Touchstone went dormant within months.
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* BoxOfficeBomb: Made The film made only 5 million dollars the first weekend, breaking a record as the worst grossing animated film released in over 3,000 theaters. It only made 12 million dollars before being pulled. However, its budget has not been revealed, though it was speculated to be somewhere between $70M and $100M. Suffice to say, ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' helped Lucasfilm overcome the shortfall from this movie.
* CreatorKiller:Essentially ''Strange Magic'' was essentially the last straw for both George Lucas and Touchstone as independent units; Lucas, while being named a Disney Legend in 2015, was pushed to the backburner regarding ''Star Wars'' (though he had retired back in 2012 following his sale of the company), and Touchstone went dormant within months.
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Disney bought out Lucasfilm before it was released. When they did release it, they released it under {{Touchstone Pictures}} in [[DumpMonths January]] with little advertising. Disney also limited the worldwide home video release to DVD and Digital HD ''only'', with no Blu-ray release anywhere in the world, a highly unusual move for any theatrically released animated film in TheNewTens. The decision appears to be a late one as retailers were prepared for a Blu-ray with [=SKUs=] [[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/bd-strange-magic-bd-blu-ray-disc/3938446.p?id=3347627 set up in advance]].
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Disney bought out Lucasfilm before it was released. When they did release it, they released it under {{Touchstone Pictures}} Creator/TouchstonePictures in [[DumpMonths January]] with little advertising. Disney also limited the worldwide home video release to DVD and Digital HD ''only'', with no Blu-ray release anywhere in the world, a highly unusual move for any theatrically released animated film in TheNewTens. The decision appears to be a late one as retailers were prepared for a Blu-ray with [=SKUs=] [[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/bd-strange-magic-bd-blu-ray-disc/3938446.p?id=3347627 set up in advance]].
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